A Discussion of Homosexuality with enChristo and DS_Lewis

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DS_Lewis  13:10:10
ill move ok
move on
but dont downplay his evil
Karma  13:10:35
Is why I would never be christian, no forgiving people who hurts kids
DS_Lewis  13:10:42
tzip ok
CriticalPurple  13:10:50
tzipsaway If people would read th charges they would realize I never had sex with any child.
Anyone who uses this information to commit a criminal act against another person is subject to criminal prosecution. Information in this registry may not be used to harass or threaten sex offenders or their families.
Sardaukar  13:11:02
felber admits to showing his genitals to a small kid in the mens room
tzipsaway  13:11:09
Karma, on the OTHER hand we might want to try to separate the theology from the behavior of those claiming it?
CriticalPurple  13:11:10
https://www.hrw.org/reports/2007/us0907/11.htm
DS_Lewis  13:11:19
Sardaukar defends the guy
tzipsaway  13:11:23
Karma, heaven only knows what EVERYBODY is capable of.  :(
DS_Lewis  13:11:23
this is the end times
tzipsaway  13:11:42
It wasn't until I got on irc that I learned that I, too, can kill.   <g>
Sardaukar  13:11:50
oh i had my fights with CriticalPurple but you should heal thyself felcher
DS_Lewis  13:11:52
tzip LOL
tzip  13:12:27
<- humanist     uh... nominally, anyway.
brb\
CriticalPurple  13:12:47
tzipsaway It is interesting that my crime occured before I was a Christian and when I was strung out on meth, and since I have been a Christian, I have committed one crime since I was fifty years old (I am now 70) and that was a parking ticket. And here people want to judge me by one error in judgment.
DS_Lewis  13:13:23
well maybe if you wer emore forthcoming
CriticalPurple  13:13:48
Since I have been a Christian, I have gotten one parking ticket and smoked pot occasionally
But now pot is legal, so I now do nothing illegal.
CriticalPurple  13:15:09
O, and I am getting off the registry next year, gonna change my name and disappear into oblivion.
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Karma  13:16:01
Hi buddhist
CriticalPurple  13:16:05
bbiab
DS_Lewis  13:16:44
hey buddhist
are you shakya
+ buddhist  13:19:29
greetings, Karma & DS_Lewis
No, I'm not shakya
DS_Lewis  13:20:03
mmmm my jerky smells good
all these flies are buzzing around the dehydrator outside lol
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DS_Lewis  13:21:20
about 3 hours left tho
i hope the vaccuum sealer gets delivered soon
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DS_Lewis  13:30:45
i have to get my sister a bday present soon
her bday is august 11
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how old is she?
DS_Lewis  13:33:52
36
I'll probably get her a ribbed dildo
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+ uswallaby  13:34:24
sorry i talked
DS_Lewis  13:34:24
she's married with 2 kids
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hi Ross
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DS_Lewis  13:34:29
and her husband is a pot head
so she needs one
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hi uswallaby
13:34:45
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DS_Lewis  13:34:47
it's ok uswallaby, I know sexuality makes people uncomfortable even though we are all human beings
feel free to keep pretending you are a virgin
@ Ross  13:35:49
what is wrong wiht trying to keep the chat family/kid friendly
with
DS_Lewis  13:36:28
there are no kids here
kids dont come on irc
they are on instagram
e are all grown adults
@ Ross  13:36:41
yes, they do
DS_Lewis  13:36:46
no they dont
when was the last time a kid came here?
@ Ross  13:36:58
regardless, what is wrong wiht trying to keep the chat family/kid friendly
regardless, what is wrong with trying to keep the chat family/kid friendly
DS_Lewis  13:37:17
how was the chhat un-kid-friendly?
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DS_Lewis  13:37:40
i mean the story of jesus' crucifixtion is unfriendly to children
but we still tell it to them
hi enChristo
@ Ross  13:38:08
how is the life & death of Jesus not kid friendly
+ enChristo  13:38:12
hi BS_Lewis
@ Ross  13:38:21
every child knows they will die one day
DS_Lewis  13:38:25
um his torture and mutilation is not kid friendly at all
BS_Lewis  13:38:28
hey enChristo
+ enChristo  13:38:41
you said that already I think
DS_Lewis  13:38:52
yeah sorry
im repeating myself
+ enChristo  13:38:57
no worries
time warp?
DS_Lewis  13:39:10
lol yeah
+ enChristo  13:39:17
I've lost my glasses ..
DS_Lewis  13:39:21
Konrad was here ealier and got me all confused
he's one hell of a guy I telll ya
best guy on irc n reality
i hope my vaccuum sealer gets here soon
jerky will be a while yet
but I need to flash freeze it
+ enChristo  13:41:23
sorry I confused DS with BS , no time warps after all
found my glasses too
DS_Lewis  13:41:29
i hope this jerky turns out good or I spent a whole lot of time
np man, this is me BS im on my phone at work
+ enChristo  13:41:52
you logged in twice?
DS_Lewis  13:41:55
yeah
+ enChristo  13:41:58
DS and BS
lol
DS_Lewis  13:42:00
im still logged in from home
_0_ needed me to come into work
so I'm here just keeping things in order
+ enChristo  13:42:32
somebody is typing for you at home using the BS_Lewis login ?
DS_Lewis  13:42:46
no that was me remotely with my phone
+ enChristo  13:42:50
oh ok
DS_Lewis  13:42:53
yeah
i had to check in
how's are you enChristo?
+ enChristo  13:43:13
really good
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DS_Lewis  13:43:30
Konrad really convinced you to become Catholic eh
he did the same with deusexbee
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just had a double scoop chocolate peanut butter waffle cone
DS_Lewis  13:43:48
maybe I should look into it tooo
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DS_Lewis  13:44:00
hey shakya
how's the McChrystal's treating ya?
shakya  13:44:08
hey
fine
DS_Lewis  13:44:22
lol
im gonna have some cheese and bacon
it's the only one I didnt throw out
must have forgotten it by accident
shakya  13:44:49
thqt still sounds gross
+ enChristo  13:44:51
your nick reminds me of the old Zappa album "Sheik Yerbouti"  .. Shakya Bouti
DS_Lewis  13:44:59
it's good man
ugh
sneezing all over the place here lol
+ enChristo  13:45:19
allergies?
DS_Lewis  13:45:36
no nasal snuff
shakya
https://mrsnuff.com/toque-cheese-bacon-p-2154.html
+ enChristo  13:45:52
you snort snuff ?
DS_Lewis  13:45:58
im drinking cabo wabo tequila too
+ enChristo  13:46:07
at work?
DS_Lewis  13:46:09
enChristo in the US snuff is cheqing tobacco stuff
but snuff is actually nasal snuff
a finely powdered tobaccoo you inhale lightly into your nose
+ enChristo  13:46:39
ya I used to do that a bit when I was younger
shakya  13:46:43
well moist snuff is oral here
DS_Lewis  13:46:46
yeah
shakya  13:46:50
dry snuff is nasal
+ enChristo  13:46:53
quite a hit
DS_Lewis  13:46:57
it's irritating americans call chew or cra like that snuff
+ enChristo  13:47:01
brb , time to eat lunch
DS_Lewis  13:47:04
you aways have to explain the difference
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DS_Lewis  13:47:14
this cheese and bacon is good
it's mostly cheese tho
the flavour
i should order some more snuff
cut back on the cigs
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@ Ross  13:49:00
if cigars and cigaretttes are are the coffin-stakes and coffin-nails ... what should ould chew and snuff be labeled
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DS_Lewis  13:49:19
well no one has ever died of nasal snuff
@ Ross  13:49:22
change the nick
DS_Lewis  13:49:29
there's no burning
so no tar
and no carbon monoxide
tzipsaway  13:49:35
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@ Ross  13:49:39
SheAHoe, change the nick or go
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* tzipsaway seconds that...
shakya  13:49:57
that reminds me of a religious name that made me laugh
DS_Lewis  13:50:15
shakya this is a review of the toque
"Holy crap on a rocket ship to bacon land, this snuff rocks! It's the first snuff that I ever killed 2 grams of in one day. I must get more soon for I think I'm beginning to withdraw!"
lol
shakya  13:50:31
Xiese Hou... means "Lions
Lion's Roar
DS_Lewis  13:50:49
again shame Arkansas has such restrictions
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DS_Lewis  13:51:08
you'd love the south african snuffs
shakya  13:51:11
but sounds like saying "shes a hoe" kinda embarassing
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shakya  13:51:35
yeah shame
DS_Lewis  13:51:35
othe person was obviously a troll
now he is back as thisismynick
tzipsaway  13:51:49
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DS_Lewis  13:51:58
just ban the ip
the person is obivously up to no good
it's probably grandape
shakya  13:52:35
dont be sexist... trolls can be women
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tzipsaway  13:53:04
nah, shakya, we're sugar and delicate flowers and and...
DS_Lewis  13:53:05
lol
+ enChristo  13:53:15
does tzip have stealth op powers?
DS_Lewis  13:53:17
ross well he can have more than 1 new nick
enChristo yes
+ enChristo  13:53:25
uh oh
;-)
tzipsaway  13:53:29
oh just a teeny bit of it, enChristo.
DS_Lewis  13:53:32
Sara_Ks- thought it was a good idea to give even more atheists op powers
I suspect Sara_Ks- is an atheist
I mean c'mon
although tzipsaway uses them reluctantly because she isn't insane
tzipsaway  13:54:06
DS_Lewis, it's more a matter of having a sweet lovely temperment so WATCHITT.  <g>
DS_Lewis  13:54:24
and Ross is also a good op because he uses his ops in extreme cases
shakya  13:54:29
power mad
DS_Lewis  13:54:30
because Ross isn;t insane either
Didache though
well that's another story
tzipsaway  13:54:42
He Is Too!
DS_Lewis  13:54:43
won' go there
tzipsaway  13:54:47
j/k  :))
DS_Lewis  13:54:49
lol
shakya  13:54:52
ive seen ops go that way
DS_Lewis  13:54:56
shakya yeah
shakya  13:55:12
not here lately
DS_Lewis  13:55:13
Ross no, he hates Catholics
I have no time for that crap
he can go be hateful elsewhere
shakya  13:55:39
romophobia
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Don't you hate Muslims?
tzipsaway  13:55:50
ooooh sharp, shakya
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DS_Lewis  13:55:57
I just want Muslims to stay in Muslim land
tzipsaway  13:56:02
Nobody don't hate nobody.
+ innit  13:56:17
DS_Lewis, in which country do you live?
DS_Lewis  13:56:22
Canada
+ innit  13:56:31
DS_Lewis, you also hate homosexual people, right?
DS_Lewis  13:56:38
no I don't
+ innit  13:56:39
tzip: I am inclined to agree.
DS_Lewis  13:56:40
what the heck
+ innit  13:56:43
You're Stefanie, yes?
DS_Lewis  13:56:47
no
Stefanie is a Polish broad living in Florida
Stefanie  13:56:58
no i'm Stef
+ innit  13:57:02
Okay.
What's your normal name?
DS_Lewis  13:57:05
hey Stefanie
+ enChristo  13:57:06
does Steanie hate homosexuals?
DS_Lewis  13:57:11
you lurking or somethng?
+ innit  13:57:11
enChristo: She does.
Stefanie  13:57:12
cześć :)
i don't hate anyone
+ innit  13:57:18
She's posted about it previously.
I can quote you, if you'd like, Stefanie.
DS_Lewis  13:57:29
homosexuals are just called to chastity and celibacy
Stefanie  13:57:34
^
we're all called to chastity
DS_Lewis  13:57:51
the Catechism of the Catholic church if strict on this
is
shakya  13:57:57
i dont hate anyone, except telemarketers... i hope they burn forever. :))
+ enChristo  13:57:59
I think homosexuality is inherently disordered as per the Catchism of the Catholic Church .  is that hateful ?
DS_Lewis  13:58:12
enChristo it is disordered
but the Church loves them
and expects celibacy of them
+ innit  13:58:22
I think that theism in inherently delusional per modern science. Is that hateful?
DS_Lewis  13:58:24
that's all
Stefanie  13:58:24
enChristo: no that's not hateful to say that it's intrinsically disordered
shakya  13:58:43
i just got buzzed hard by an hummingbirc
+ innit  13:58:50
enChristo: The ideology of the church is, on that point, false, however.
shakya  13:58:52
*bird
+ innit  13:58:56
So now we're disliking people based off lies.
+ enChristo  13:59:00
innit, are you gay by any chance?
+ innit  13:59:03
That seems extremely problematic.
DS_Lewis  13:59:07
some layman criticizing the Church
LostAtheist you need new material
+ innit  13:59:18
enChristo: I am a Kantian meta-factionalist, i.e. I seek justice for justice's sake.
+ enChristo  13:59:46
innit ! I remember you from before by another nick.  you hve a big IQ , right?
+ innit  13:59:47
I ethically reason as if I am the universal law-giver, or that I am constructing society and I don't know who I will be in that society.
+ enChristo  14:00:09
the meta-factionalist gave you away
DS_Lewis  14:00:12
i think you mean high iq
Stefanie  14:00:13
i most certainly do not have a big iq
+ innit  14:00:16
I'm just a regular person who debates for fun.
Like Saitama.
+ enChristo  14:00:30
sorry mistaken identity
Stefanie  14:00:31
i'm average i guess
shakya  14:00:36
im more of a kafkaesque metamorphosist
;)
DS_Lewis  14:00:42
Stefanie aren't you a software engineer?
Stefanie  14:00:47
yes
DS_Lewis  14:00:49
I think that that calls for an above average IQ
+ enChristo  14:00:53
shakya, you turn into an insect ?
Stefanie  14:00:55
not really
DS_Lewis  14:01:06
I am a man of leisure
shakya  14:01:07
or do I?
+ innit  14:01:18
enChristo: It is correct to have a problem with homosexuality, per Catholic ideology.
Stefanie  14:01:21
i'm playing around in the studio making music today
+ innit  14:01:25
But Catholic ideology on homosexual is not evidence-based.
Stefanie  14:01:30
and practicing for mass tomorrow
DS_Lewis  14:01:36
Evidence based?
regarding practices
lul
shakya  14:01:46
i am playing for the lutherans in the morning
+ innit  14:01:46
Contemporary views from evolutionary biology and sociology indicate homosexuality is a natural part of life.
DS_Lewis  14:01:51
LOL
+ enChristo  14:01:55
DSM-III defined homosexuality as a psychiatric disorder didn't it?  what the heck happened ?
Stefanie  14:01:59
innit: read theology of the body, there's a significant amount of evidence in it
shakya  14:02:02
for their "mass"
DS_Lewis  14:02:03
so is eating your own children
shakya  14:02:08
hard eye roll
DS_Lewis  14:02:11
many animals eat their own children
so there's nature and natural for ya
+ innit  14:02:24
Stefanie: Tell me the most powerful evidence you think you have supporting the deviance of homosexuality?
DS_Lewis  14:02:28
what is natural is not necessarily goodd
anthrax is natural
Stefanie  14:02:38
innit: read theology of the b ody
+ enChristo  14:02:38
theft and adultery are naturally occuring too but it doesn't mean they are in any way right or acceptable
DS_Lewis  14:02:40
u want some anthrax?
Stefanie  14:02:46
and humanae vitae
DS_Lewis  14:02:51
the appeal to nature is so lame
+ innit  14:02:52
Anthrax in nature isn't that dangerous.
You're thinking of weaponized anthrax.
DS_Lewis  14:03:06
malaria is natural
go get some malaria
Stefanie  14:03:14
your mum is natural
+ innit  14:03:20
Okay, so what you're saying is natural isn't necessarily good.
+ enChristo  14:03:24
homosexuality occurs naturally too , just like anthrax ?
nice
DS_Lewis  14:03:33
enChristo no way
+ innit  14:03:35
So, a man and a woman being together or having sex or loving one another is not naturally good.
I accept that.
shakya  14:03:45
my region has the worlds highest naturally occurring concentration of tuleremia
DS_Lewis  14:03:47
innit correct
shakya  14:03:51
google that
dirt plague
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+ innit  14:04:01
If we can show harm associated with a natural thing, then we should do less of that natural thing.
+ enChristo  14:04:13
anal fissures?
DS_Lewis  14:04:15
yees
+ innit  14:04:22
One of the natural things we do as a species is form factions, like the Catholic church, and then espouse views that aren't evidence-based, like homosexuality is a sin.
DS_Lewis  14:04:40
how is forming factions natural?
+ innit  14:04:46
The harm that comes from this natural process is that huge groups of humans are demeaned and often physically attacked for being bad.
Stefanie  14:04:56
the Catholic Church is no faction, it is by its very name universal, for everyone
+ innit  14:05:01
DS_Lewis, forming factions is the default human social organization as revealed by anthropology.
DS_Lewis  14:05:15
that doesn't mean they are natural
+ innit  14:05:18
Stefanie: It's not for me, or people who care about evidence.
DS_Lewis  14:05:25
natural means of nature
+ innit  14:05:28
It is most certainly not universal, though it's more universal than some previous systems.
shakya  14:05:38
i would be cooler with antihomosexuality by churches if they preached as hard against cohabitation
Stefanie  14:05:40
innit: you are more than welcome in our Church, in fact we need you ... the Church isn't the same without you
shakya  14:05:51
and divorce/remarriage
+ innit  14:05:54
DS_Lewis, our species, like chimpanzees, naturally forms groups that conduct wars with rival groups.
Stefanie  14:06:18
the word Catholic itself means universal
+ innit  14:06:18
Stefanie: I would feel extremely uncomfortable in an organization that doesn't test of all of its ideas with rigorous evidence.
I have disliked the self-delusion and lying associated with Christian churches since was I was a child.
+ enChristo  14:06:40
innit, I'm thinking you are this other guy .  do you study something at university , grad school ? big data ? something like that?
shakya  14:06:46
not married people ross
Stefanie  14:07:02
the Church doesn't lie, people lie, but the Church has the fullness of the truth
+ enChristo  14:07:02
you sound just like him
shakya  14:07:04
straight sexual misconduct according to the bible
+ innit  14:07:08
So, we have agree things that are natural are not necessarily good. Homosexuality is quite natural, but it could be harmful.
You guys made some comparisons to adultery and theft as other natural things that create harm.
What is the harm of homosexuality?
+ enChristo  14:07:35
demeaning to human dignity?
Stefanie  14:07:43
alright i have a hungry family that wants pierogi for dinner, later :)
+ enChristo  14:07:54
people acting like demented animals degrades us all
+ innit  14:07:56
She'll provide her evidence later, no doubt.
shakya  14:07:59
post menopausal sex isnt bad
+ enChristo  14:08:06
wow
shakya  14:08:08
also doesnt reproduce
+ innit  14:08:14
It's not a Catholic would just assert things and then not defend them -- not at all.
enChristo: If you would, feel free to brainstorm.
Tell me your top-3 or top-5 or whatever kinds of harm that come from homosexuality.
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innit:  is there anything which in itself degrades human dignity?
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+ enChristo  14:09:12
maybe smearing poop on each other or eating it or ...
+ innit  14:09:22
enChristo: Given a normative structure, yes, but I am inclined to say no without a context.
Karma  14:09:35
disgusting
+ enChristo  14:09:48
homosexuality is like that , demeaning of human dignity
sorry but it is , it's called "natural law"
+ innit  14:10:08
enChristo: I'll engage the sources of harm from homosexuality in a little bit when you're finished providing them, but this first one seems extremely weak to me.
Karma  14:10:16
homophobes yuck
shakya  14:10:20
i wonder why some womens libido increases after menopause
+ innit  14:10:21
It just seems like a restatement of your thesis.
DS_Lewis  14:10:48
innit no one is stopping you from being gay
+ enChristo  14:10:49
some things are just beneath human dignity , that's just the way it is
DS_Lewis  14:10:53
if you want to be gay then go ahead
shakya  14:10:53
i mean since they cant procreate anymore... doesnt seem to be an adaptive evolutionary mechanism
DS_Lewis  14:10:58
and live wth the consequences
+ innit  14:11:12
To remind you, we're currently here in the debate: "Sure, homosexuality is natural, but many natural things can be harmful, let me tell you what is harmful about homosexuality..."
And the only thing you've given so far is that it "demeans human dignity".
+ enChristo  14:11:38
some people copulate with animals which is also beneath human dignity and degrades us all
+ innit  14:11:44
I disagree.
DS_Lewis  14:11:53
it's against the commandment of God to engage in homosexual behaviourr
+ enChristo  14:11:55
or is that also OK with you based on absence of harm ?
DS_Lewis  14:11:55
that's that
+ innit  14:12:04
I am a vegetarian/vegan and think a human could have sexual relations with an animal that doesn't necessarily demean either.
But, that's not the topic.
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DS_Lewis  14:12:19
Good Lord
now he wants to justify beastiality
+ enChristo  14:12:30
another one
+ innit  14:12:33
enChristo: I don't want more examples of other things that are natural and harmful.
We already agree such things exist.
shakya  14:12:43
Sara_Ks-:  is westosha your church?
@ Sara_Ks  14:12:45
Hi ross
+ innit  14:12:52
I want to know why *this* natural thing is harmful.
@ Sara_Ks  14:13:02
shakya No, its chuckwagons church
shakya  14:13:11
ok
DS_Lewis  14:13:24
Ross nah. In the US anyone can be a pastoor and have their own church
+ enChristo  14:13:27
innit: if you have no sense of human dignity , I can't explain it to you
sorry
+ innit  14:13:34
enChristo: Your pattern of feeling strongly about a thing but not being able to articulate exactly why, coupled with assertions like, C'mon, you know, is a pattern in our species.
DS_Lewis  14:13:40
you don't need years of university training to be a priest and stuff in the |Catholic Church
+ innit  14:13:43
Ave you familiar with that pattern?
barabbas`  14:13:49
God said don't do it, don't need any other reason.
DS_Lewis  14:13:50
you just need to say you are a preacher and you can get your own church
+ innit  14:13:52
enChristo: You're now personally insulting me.
This doesn't bode well for your position.
DS_Lewis  14:14:09
just over 2 hours in the dehydrator barabbas`
looking good so far
+ enChristo  14:14:18
sorry if you don't understand why bestiality is degrading I can't explain it to you
DS_Lewis  14:14:32
enChristo he is just an atheist troll
+ innit  14:14:34
Bestiality isn't the topic.
Let's stay focused.
To remind you, we're currently here in the debate: "Sure, homosexuality is natural, but many natural things can be harmful, let me tell you what is harmful about homosexuality..."
+ enChristo  14:14:57
bestiality is *like* homosexuality , I'm arguing from example
barabbas`  14:15:05
IN fact God said any sex outside of marriage is a no, no. Thats all a person needs to know.
+ innit  14:15:08
I don't want to deal with any more analogies.
DS_Lewis  14:15:09
this is a christian debate room innit
+ innit  14:15:12
Let's talk about the thing directly.
+ enChristo  14:15:14
degrading human dignity is in itself harmful imo
DS_Lewis  14:15:15
this isn;t a deviancy debate room
+ innit  14:15:18
Harmful things can be discussed directly.
+ enChristo  14:15:28
degrading human dignity is in itself harmful imo
barabbas`  14:15:37
If you go against God you harm your soul.
DS_Lewis  14:15:48
barabbas` absolutely
+ innit  14:15:57
Okay, I'll give you a last chance to include any other types of harm, then I'll discuss your provided types of harm.
Do you wish to include anything else for consideration?
Karma  14:16:06
bbl when the room isnt infested with homophobes
DS_Lewis  14:16:07
ok bye innit, see you later
Sardaukar  14:16:23
barabbas` drives far more souls away from god than towards god
+ enChristo  14:16:32
btw Sarah, one of your ops here recently argued publicly that the only thing he found wrong with bestiality was the issue of determining the animals consent.  If that consent were established he thought the act itself was OK
nice huh
DS_Lewis  14:16:47
Anyone who continues to converse wth innit is engaged with a dialogue with a the devil
+ enChristo  14:16:50
want to see the logs?
DS_Lewis  14:16:50
best to ignore him
+ innit  14:16:54
enChristo: You seem generally trigger as we've been discussing violations of your taboos.
I want to note that.
DS_Lewis  14:17:04
enChristo wwhich one
ppm me
+ innit  14:17:13
DS_Lewis: I forgive you -- you know not what you do.
+ enChristo  14:17:20
it's like having good taste or not ... if you dn't have any no one can explain it to you
@ Sara_Ks  14:17:22
enChristo lol who said it
+ enChristo  14:17:29
may I pm you?
+ innit  14:17:31
enChristo:  You appear to be finished with our debate. Is that correct?
@ Sara_Ks  14:17:35
Sure
DS_Lewis  14:17:35
probably Didache
cause Didache is insane
it won't matter though enChristo
Didache is Sara_Ks's uncle
+ innit  14:17:52
enChristo: Unilaterally leaving a conversation without a communication as to why is disrespectful.
@ Sara_Ks  14:17:58
DS_Lewis Stop
DS_Lewis  14:18:17
they are Jews
@ Sara_Ks  14:18:18
enChristo Sure
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DS_Lewis  14:19:25
i made a ham sandwich
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DS_Lewis  14:19:26
and I am dipping it into wasabi paste
+ innit  14:19:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ICui-tFOFo
I share this with you, enChristo.
I want to remind you that us loving one another is one of the most important things.
Some debate is not important compared to that.
DS_Lewis  14:20:17
burn him
+ enChristo  14:20:36
lol
tzipsaway  14:20:39
Or, barring that, innit, some empathy.   And if someone can't manage that, there's always just plain manners.  :)
DS_Lewis  14:20:45
they must be burned
+ innit  14:20:49
tzipsaway, agreed.
I cannot detect any sense of Jesus in you at this time, enChristo.
DS_Lewis  14:21:17
lol
+ innit  14:21:19
This is literally a song by humans singing to God and Jesus.
As they reach out to God for forgiveness and healing.
*  14:21:38
Ignoring enChristo
tzipsaway  14:21:38
innit, if you have any black gospel I'd love it.  :)
+ innit  14:21:47
enChristo: I am going to separate myself from you at this time.
*  14:21:53
Ignoring DS_Lewis
tzipsaway  14:21:58
That's MY kind of religious music.   .. and some, very few though, gregorian chants.
+ innit  14:22:05
I am continually shocked at how Christians act.
tzipsaway  14:22:18
They're so.... straightforward, honest, simple....
+ innit  14:22:26
Where is the spirit of Jesus?
I am an atheist and I've offering to meet him him as two or three, so Jesus may be there also.
And one wanted to burn me to death, and the other laughed.
barabbas`  14:23:01
Jesus is always present
+ innit  14:23:08
I believe you.
barabbas`  14:23:38
If you see unchrist like behavior in someone, they aren't a Christian regardless of what they claim.
+ innit  14:23:40
This is my opportunity to remind mindful, compassionate, and loving.
barabbas`, I agree for that moment.
But each moment is a new opportunity.
I am an atheist, but I like many things Jesus did.
It makes me cry when I think about them, because I can sense his compassion, love, and strength.
barabbas`  14:25:01
Doesn't matter the moment, Christians exude Christlike attitudes.
+ innit  14:25:17
One of my favorite stories is when he carried the crippled man up the stairs to temple.
barabbas`: I detect some spirit of Jesus in you.
barabbas`  14:25:58
Don't forget Jesus did overturn the money changers and called the pharisees children of the devil.
+ innit  14:26:34
Oh you fill those who are empty And rescue those in the valley And through it all you calm my soul Oh now, you find me in my weakness And heal the wounds of my heartache I worship you in spirit and truth
Christianity at its best is beautiful.
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