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  3. so it's wonderful to be in Australia I
  4. came here and it's my first time in
  5. Melbourne I was looking forward to
  6. meeting Australians turns out half of
  7. Melbourne is Greeks go so I guess I'll
  8. have better chance in Sydney he'll meet
  9. some Australians there or maybe you are
  10. all Australians and then yeah he's great
  11. - I was very surprised there's a lot of
  12. this is probably one of the most
  13. multicultural cities I've ever been to
  14. it's a really a fantastic city and if
  15. you have the kind of weather you had
  16. yesterday most of the time I can see the
  17. appeal of living here so you can just
  18. leave me under the illusion that that's
  19. the kind of weather you have all of the
  20. time that's good
  21. all right so first of all how many
  22. people here are familiar with Bitcoin
  23. mostly insiders how many of you have
  24. Bitcoin okay and how many of you have
  25. not heard much about Bitcoin until today
  26. okay just just a few people who are new
  27. to this space so I'm not going to I'm
  28. not going to do an introductory
  29. presentation to Bitcoin since the vast
  30. majority of the audience is familiar
  31. with Bitcoin and I thought I was going
  32. to talk about some of interesting topics
  33. around this first of all I recently
  34. heard that Australia is considering
  35. taxing Bitcoin as an intangible asset
  36. with sales tax is that true and I -
  37. actually in class yeah and so I'm
  38. careful guys
  39. has this already happened I think it's
  40. very unlikely to happen except that's
  41. what we've been caught okay so that is a
  42. monumentally stupid idea as you can that
  43. was my diplomatic way of speaking to
  44. politicians it's it's as monumentally
  45. stupid as it would have been in 1994 to
  46. classify the internet as a fax machine
  47. service and put it under the control of
  48. the telecom companies or to classify it
  49. as a CB radio a fancy CB radio and ask
  50. every user of the Internet to pass a
  51. Morse code exam and get an operator's
  52. license and those things didn't happen
  53. because at the time the regulator's took
  54. a wait-and-see approach and decided to
  55. let the technology itself flourish for a
  56. while before trying to apply any
  57. regulations it's a good idea because the
  58. truth is that very few people really
  59. understand what bitcoin is exactly and
  60. how it works and I don't mean very few
  61. politicians I mean very few people in
  62. general really really really understand
  63. Bitcoin I wouldn't count myself as one
  64. of them
  65. I understand parts of Bitcoin but I
  66. don't think I can predict where this
  67. thing is going I don't think I can
  68. predict even a fraction of the types of
  69. applications that are likely to be built
  70. on a Bitcoin none of us know this is
  71. uncharted territory
  72. the reason it's uncharted territory is
  73. because nothing like Bitcoin has ever
  74. happened before I don't say that you
  75. know just as a extreme statements I I
  76. think it's absolutely true the idea of a
  77. trusted decentralized network that
  78. allows an individual anywhere in the
  79. world to transmit value or establish
  80. ownership over digital assets and
  81. transmit that in a matter of seconds
  82. anywhere in the world transparently
  83. safely almost instantaneously and for
  84. less than a third of a penny that
  85. has never happened before and we don't
  86. know what uses that will be put to yet I
  87. can think of a thousand different
  88. interesting uses but we don't really
  89. know it fundamentally changes some of
  90. the core assumptions of how money works
  91. and the thing is that while we conceive
  92. of money as this universal thing
  93. in fact we experience it as many
  94. different aspects of money there's fast
  95. money
  96. there's slow money there's money that
  97. works best in small increments and money
  98. the works best in large increments I
  99. have some money that's printed on metal
  100. coins in my pocket and that is fantastic
  101. money to use to pay a parking meter if I
  102. try and go buy a Porsche with that form
  103. of money I will need a wheelbarrow and
  104. most likely they will look at me funny
  105. at the Porsche dealership right or if I
  106. try to buy a house with that form of
  107. money if I try to pay for the parking
  108. meter with a check or a bearer
  109. certificate bonds I will be looked at
  110. funny by the parking attendants and when
  111. I try to get on the tram here
  112. apparently I need a Mickey card
  113. and I don't know what a Mickey cart is
  114. my or my key card and how to get it and
  115. how to charge it and I certainly don't
  116. know if I can use it for anything else
  117. what I'm getting at is that we don't
  118. experience money as a universal protocol
  119. we experience money as a series of
  120. fragmented networks very very fragmented
  121. networks and there's a parallel to this
  122. before the Internet age
  123. telecommunications was like this if you
  124. wanted to send a long-distance message
  125. you'd write it down on paper and use the
  126. postal service if you wanted to transmit
  127. video you'd use a broadband connection
  128. to a satellite and bounce it off there
  129. if you wanted to transmit text rapidly
  130. you'd use a telegram or telex if you
  131. wanted to transmit an image you'd use a
  132. fax machine if you wanted to transmit
  133. video well you couldn't really you could
  134. put it on a VHS tape and then mail it
  135. somewhere so every type of content had a
  136. different network and those networks
  137. were segregated by speed and convenience
  138. and cost and time to destination and all
  139. of these restrictions and the internet
  140. brought all of these things together it
  141. brought all of these things together and
  142. allowed us to use a single network
  143. regardless of the type of message we
  144. were sending and use it for fast and
  145. slow for small and large for cheap and
  146. expensive right and that was really an
  147. interesting thing because it suddenly
  148. changed the way we used information it
  149. didn't just make it more convenient it
  150. didn't just make it more accessible it
  151. fundamentally changed the way we used
  152. information things that we would only do
  153. sparsely we could do now continuously
  154. things that were too expensive to do
  155. we're now cheap things that were too far
  156. to reach became close we're about to do
  157. that with money Bitcoin does that to
  158. money in the financial environment there
  159. are literally hundreds of different
  160. networks there is Swift the Society for
  161. worldwide interbank fund transfer and
  162. you've never used Swift unless you're a
  163. broker
  164. you've never used Swift a swift terminal
  165. is something a bank has and they use it
  166. to send 25 million dollar wire transfers
  167. to another bank somewhere else in the
  168. world right so that's the big payment
  169. only bank to bank Network
  170. there's visa and you can use that if
  171. you're a merchant you can receive on it
  172. and it's a consumer to business network
  173. but it only works really above five
  174. dollars approximately it doesn't work
  175. for less than five dollars and there's
  176. an upper limit really on what you can
  177. send so if you want to send twenty five
  178. million dollars to review you can't
  179. really do that and you can use checks
  180. and you can use ACH clearinghouse the
  181. way we call it in the States which is
  182. checking account Clearinghouse for
  183. transactions between individuals
  184. I don't know how easily you can send
  185. money from individual to individual here
  186. if you want to say pay your rent in the
  187. United States most people write a check
  188. because that's the most convenient way
  189. to do it they take money from a digital
  190. bank account they write on a piece of
  191. paper they put this paper into a
  192. terrestrial mail transport system where
  193. it takes three days to arrive at their
  194. landlord their landlord takes this piece
  195. of paper presents it to the bank which
  196. in itself is complicated the bank then
  197. types something into a computer and then
  198. the money is transferred and then it
  199. sits there for three to five business
  200. days this is in 2014 in the most
  201. prosperous country in the world and this
  202. is no less than insanity right now I
  203. don't know if it's easier for you guys
  204. here in the UK it's somewhat easier to
  205. send money between two individuals in a
  206. bank it's probably a bit easier for you
  207. but if you want to send money from here
  208. to New Zealand even though it's not that
  209. far I bet things would suddenly get a
  210. lot more complicated and you might have
  211. to revert to some kind of paper-based
  212. instruments or you might have to pay
  213. some third party intermediary like
  214. Western unions $35 for the privilege of
  215. moving money across the
  216. Oshin as if they have to physically
  217. carry sacks of gold whereas in fact what
  218. they're doing in the back end is no
  219. different than an email we live in a
  220. world where banking is horribly
  221. fragmented where finances we experience
  222. it is broken the experience for a
  223. consumer is different from that from a
  224. business the experience for a small
  225. amount is different from a big amount if
  226. you want to send money fast you can only
  227. send small amounts you want to send
  228. large amounts and fast you can't do that
  229. unless you pay a lot of money and it
  230. gets really really complicated as soon
  231. as you try to send money across borders
  232. and then there's Bitcoin a single
  233. network that can transmit anything from
  234. micro transactions meaning you can send
  235. a thousandth of a penny two Giga
  236. transactions meaning you can send a
  237. hundred billion dollars and the fee you
  238. will pay is the same exactly the same a
  239. third of a penny maybe and the time it
  240. will take to transmit is the same five
  241. seconds later it's going to be visible
  242. across the entire global network you'll
  243. get clearance in ten minutes and it
  244. doesn't care about borders and it
  245. doesn't care about who the recipient is
  246. and it doesn't care if the recipient is
  247. a consumer or a business it doesn't care
  248. at the sender is a consumer or business
  249. if the device you're using to send it is
  250. a desktop to mobile or not it doesn't
  251. care if you took the keys off of paper
  252. wallets or if you typed a pin into a
  253. wallet or if you use your desktop
  254. computer Bitcoin bridges all of those
  255. things and provides for the first time
  256. something that's never happened before
  257. which is a unified protocol for
  258. transmitting value if you think about
  259. Bitcoin that way it is as big a
  260. revolution in the affairs of Finance
  261. tcp/ip was in communication it provides
  262. a single unified transmission protocol
  263. that spans any amount any destination
  264. and gives you a flat playing field that
  265. anyone can connect to
  266. now to call that an intangible asset and
  267. stick GST on it is if you really
  268. understand exactly what that is is
  269. hubris at the very least short-sighted
  270. probably and grossly idiotic most likely
  271. we don't know where this network is
  272. going but what we do know is that it has
  273. opened the possibility for creating
  274. hundreds thousands of applications that
  275. we could never envision and even the
  276. most wild aynd optimists and visionaries
  277. amongst us really don't know where this
  278. is going I was on the internet in 1989
  279. at the time it took days to send an
  280. email across the internet you had to
  281. have UNIX command-line skills it used an
  282. email protocol called uucp
  283. store-and-forward which was as clunky as
  284. it sounds and you know if you ask me
  285. then what will people be able to do with
  286. this network I could imagine
  287. instantaneous email I could imagine
  288. online shopping eventually as a far
  289. possibility I certainly couldn't imagine
  290. Facebook or Twitter and I most certainly
  291. could not imagine Bitcoin could pop out
  292. of this Internet experience but it did
  293. and today we look at Bitcoin as a
  294. protocol and we have one app it's a
  295. killer app it's currency and it's a
  296. currency with our governments and banks
  297. and it's something unique that's never
  298. been built before but it's just the
  299. first app and we have no idea what other
  300. apps will be created you know I maybe
  301. one day you'll be able to use Bitcoin
  302. instead of a Mickey or my key card maybe
  303. you'll be able to use the same payments
  304. network to pay for your tram your
  305. parking meter your Wi-Fi and your hotel
  306. room instead of having to juggle five
  307. different payment systems
  308. I found the experience of visiting
  309. Australia quite funny because as an
  310. American I come here bearing 20th
  311. century technology I have a credit card
  312. with no chip which apparently is an
  313. alien artifact from a previous century
  314. as far as most Australians are concerned
  315. because they'll take my card and don't
  316. wave it over a reader and nothing
  317. happens it reminds me of this episode of
  318. I think it was Star Trek where they they
  319. go back in time and then lands on the
  320. planet and they go into a computer store
  321. and one of the Star Trek crew picks up a
  322. mouse and goes computer and yeah that's
  323. my experience with my card and every
  324. time I have to explain no this is an
  325. old-style
  326. swipe and sign they're like wow swipe
  327. and sound fine yeah I'm like a time
  328. traveller to the future it's amazing
  329. that doesn't stop us however from
  330. sending our president here to tell you
  331. how to manage your Great Barrier Reef it
  332. takes a certain level of audacity to go
  333. to another country be completely
  334. oblivious about the fact that we have
  335. inferior technology in the big scheme of
  336. things and then tell all the people how
  337. to run their business but we think to be
  338. pretty good at that so my experience
  339. with credit cards here has been rather
  340. revealing because even within the world
  341. of credit cards you see these vast
  342. differences and every time I travel the
  343. same problem keeps happening to me I
  344. called every single one of my banks and
  345. I've told them in every different way
  346. that I can that I travel a lot so I try
  347. to explain to them that if you see my
  348. credit card pop up in Southeast Asia on
  349. Monday in Australia on Tuesday and in
  350. Kuala Lumpur on Wednesday and Paris the
  351. next day that is normal behavior for me
  352. so do whatever you will need to do to
  353. your fraud management
  354. algorithms that is my normal and so
  355. every time I go traveling I swipe my
  356. card and then I'll see on my email that
  357. I got a missed call on my u.s. phone
  358. number from visa fraud prevention
  359. services asking me to verify that this
  360. was indeed the charge maids on my
  361. account and if I don't respond to that
  362. message in three days my card gets shut
  363. down so now I'm traveling the world with
  364. a piece of plastic that is literally
  365. worthless and no matter how many times
  366. I've tried to explain this there are
  367. notes on my account that say don't shut
  368. down this card this is normal behavior
  369. they can't get their head around the
  370. possibility that someone would travel to
  371. different countries and interact with
  372. foreigners so so my credit cards are
  373. broken but if you think about it credit
  374. cards are broken by design and most of
  375. us don't really think about how broken
  376. credit cards are so let's go back and
  377. look at credit cards with a clear eyes
  378. and examine all the ways in which they
  379. are broken
  380. first of all credit card technology was
  381. invented in the 50s
  382. this technology started just after the
  383. Second World War in 1950 I believe the
  384. first card was a Diners Club Card and
  385. this was essentially a plastic version
  386. of a traveler's check that had your name
  387. on it and a member number which at the
  388. time was a four-digit number and so this
  389. technology has now been extended into
  390. our current always connected Internet
  391. enabled global multipolar world but it
  392. hasn't fundamentally changed and that's
  393. why it's failing it's failing at every
  394. level because credit cards are broken by
  395. design the most fundamental way in which
  396. a credit card is broken is the fact that
  397. every time I buy something with a
  398. merchant what I'm giving them
  399. is the credentials to draw money from my
  400. accounts so I'm giving them the secret
  401. keys to every merchant I interact with
  402. and the more you use your card the more
  403. you give your secret keys to every
  404. merchant they then store them and builds
  405. giant databases with 50 or 60 million of
  406. the secret access codes to everybody's
  407. credit accounts and then they act with
  408. surprise and shock and dismay when a
  409. hacker comes along and steals all 60
  410. million credit cards out of their super
  411. secret database and there are two types
  412. of companies in this world there are
  413. companies that have failed to protect
  414. their databases of credit cards and have
  415. been hacked and there are companies that
  416. will fail to protect their databases and
  417. get hacked in the future no one can stop
  418. this from happening if you put
  419. everybody's access credentials in a
  420. single database it will get stolen
  421. simple as that people will always find a
  422. way
  423. credit cards are broken by design
  424. because every time you do a credit card
  425. transaction what you're doing is you're
  426. opening a channel that allows that
  427. merchant or anyone who gets that
  428. information to do a pull request to pull
  429. from your accounts the credit cards are
  430. also broken by design in another very
  431. fundamental way which is that the credit
  432. card information doesn't stand alone it
  433. is connected to your identity and in
  434. order to execute a transaction you have
  435. to provide your identifying information
  436. you have to provide a name you have to
  437. provide an address you have to provide
  438. additional information in many cases and
  439. in many countries it's not uncommon to
  440. also provide a tax number or date of
  441. birth for almost every online commerce
  442. credit card transaction so what that
  443. means is that now you're not just
  444. exposing the credentials that can pull
  445. from your account you're also exponents
  446. of your identity elements that when
  447. enough of them are collected you are now
  448. a victim of identity theft
  449. and so credit cards expose you both too
  450. fast and identity theft every time you
  451. use them it's really difficult to see
  452. the comparison for people who don't
  453. understand Bitcoin and to understand
  454. that Bitcoin transactions have no
  455. identity on them by design and that that
  456. is not a problem that is a feature and
  457. that when you execute a Bitcoin
  458. transaction the transaction itself gives
  459. the specific amount of value to the
  460. merchants and nothing else and by having
  461. that transaction they can't go back and
  462. charge your account again they can't
  463. pull money from your account again
  464. because you pushed a specific value to
  465. them that's what you signed for you
  466. can't Forge that signature so Bitcoin
  467. doesn't expose you too fast and it
  468. doesn't expose you to identity theft
  469. which means that when you operate with
  470. Bitcoin all of the rules of the game
  471. change if you've ever tried to build a
  472. merchant solution and an ecommerce
  473. solution or you've tried to take credit
  474. cards you'll notice that you have to do
  475. a lot of work to keep those cards secure
  476. the moment you touch credit cards every
  477. system that touches them has to be
  478. secured firewall decrypted audited
  479. monitored etc and Bitcoin systems don't
  480. have to do that I can add a Bitcoin
  481. payment system on my website and every
  482. transaction I received with Bitcoin I
  483. don't have to encrypt it it doesn't have
  484. to come over an encrypted connection I
  485. can sort it in a database it doesn't
  486. have to be encrypted doesn't have to be
  487. monitored if you go in there and you
  488. steal all of that information
  489. you've managed to create a somewhat
  490. smaller replica of what's already on the
  491. blockchain so what did you achieve
  492. nothing you just got a small subset of
  493. Bitcoin transactions you can look them
  494. up on the Box shake you don't need to
  495. break into my website to get them I can
  496. transmit those over an unencrypted
  497. medium what this means is that you can
  498. do an incredible amount of innovation
  499. with Bitcoin that you couldn't do before
  500. because you can leave the network open
  501. to access and you can make the
  502. e-commerce channels completely open for
  503. example there's a company in the US that
  504. is using
  505. chirp to do Bitcoin transactions and
  506. chirp is a protocol using sound so
  507. essentially your phone sings a little
  508. tune almost like an old-style modem in a
  509. frequency you can't quite hear it's kind
  510. of like a buzzing sound and a microphone
  511. in the merchants store picks up that
  512. sounds and gets the Bitcoin anybody else
  513. can pick up that sound too but it
  514. doesn't matter because Bitcoin
  515. transactions are not sensitive so you
  516. can transmit them in the open you can
  517. write them on a poster you can transmit
  518. them over all unencrypted Wi-Fi over
  519. unencrypted Bluetooth low-energy you can
  520. use chirp you can use NFC you can
  521. basically broadcast these transactions
  522. any way you like you don't need to
  523. encrypt them you don't need to protect
  524. them that fundamentally changes the way
  525. we do payments networks because all of
  526. that security goes away but the most
  527. important thing the Bitcoin does in that
  528. context is it provides consumer
  529. protection Bitcoin is consumer
  530. protection by design because it doesn't
  531. force you to reveal your identity and it
  532. doesn't expose your account credentials
  533. to merchants now this seems hard to
  534. understand because a lot of regulators
  535. want to regulate Bitcoin for the safety
  536. of the consumer and quite honestly the
  537. consumer is doing pretty fine with
  538. Bitcoin we're safe know Bitcoin
  539. merchants is going to get hacked and
  540. have 60 million Bitcoin account stolen
  541. right consumer safety on Bitcoin comes
  542. from the design of the protocol and from
  543. two fundamental concepts one you remain
  544. firmly in control of your money at all
  545. times and two you don't reveal anything
  546. sensitive when you do a transaction
  547. those two things together make it the
  548. most secure payment network we've ever
  549. built if you want to hack 60 million
  550. Bitcoin accounts you have to hack 60
  551. million devices there's no one place
  552. where all these keys are stored
  553. and if if you want to protect consumers
  554. the best way to do that is to leave them
  555. firm firmly in control of their own
  556. money now a lot of the regulators and we
  557. are seeing this in Australia too but we
  558. certainly seen it in the u.s. believe
  559. that the best way to protect consumers
  560. is to add identity information to our
  561. very transaction and then have every
  562. Bitcoin transaction have every user
  563. identify themselves and then provide
  564. that identifying information both to the
  565. virgin's and to intermediaries
  566. regulators auditors merchant processing
  567. companies so what they're saying is take
  568. your private identifying information and
  569. give it to the very same intermediaries
  570. who have been losing your private
  571. identity information for the last decade
  572. that is not consumer protection what
  573. that is is incumbent protection what
  574. that does is it protects banks from
  575. competition it makes Bitcoin lose some
  576. of its most powerful features so that it
  577. is no longer a competitive threat for
  578. the bank's so when you hear politicians
  579. here in Australia or anywhere in the
  580. world talk about regulating Bitcoin we
  581. have to ask ourselves what are we trying
  582. to achieve are they trying to achieve
  583. consumer protection or are they trying
  584. to achieve incumbent protection because
  585. if they're trying to achieve consumer
  586. protection then they would encourage
  587. individual control over money that
  588. Bitcoin already offers by design in fact
  589. they would encourage Bitcoin because
  590. Bitcoin is the most exciting disruptive
  591. innovation that is likely to inject
  592. competition into the banking industry
  593. the desperately desperately needs
  594. competition and if you create
  595. competition in the banking industry that
  596. is good for consumers so in the context
  597. of the regulations around GST in this
  598. country I think it's important to
  599. realize that regulations like that are
  600. not just short-sighted
  601. not just missing the point about what
  602. bitcoin is but they serve to hamper a
  603. new exciting innovation that has the
  604. very real possibility of competing
  605. against banks and disrupting their
  606. environment and giving them some
  607. competition that they desperately need
  608. and by doing regulation in that way
  609. Australians are not making Bitcoin slow
  610. down what they're doing is making
  611. Bitcoin move out right and you see here
  612. these centers which are popping out all
  613. over the world and are creating startups
  614. and opportunity a few months ago in the
  615. summer we did a jobs fair in California
  616. and for everybody who graduated after
  617. 2008 we had to explain what a jobs fair
  618. is the idea that companies would have
  619. jobs and come to a single place to find
  620. candidates seemed ridiculous because
  621. that's not the world's most graduates
  622. after 2000 I grew up in the truth is
  623. that the Bitcoin industry is generating
  624. thousands of jobs already tens of
  625. thousands in the US and I would guess
  626. it's already generated thousands of jobs
  627. here in Australia these Bitcoin centers
  628. the innovation the excitement the
  629. startups the hundreds of programmers
  630. learning how to use these currencies to
  631. invent new financial services and new
  632. products and to create things that are
  633. easier to use for consumers and make
  634. Bitcoin easier to use these are the
  635. beginning of a multi-billion dollar
  636. economy and that's just serving
  637. Australians once you put into the mix
  638. the possibility of serving up to 2
  639. billion unbanked people who live in in
  640. regional terms of stone's throw away in
  641. Indonesia in Malaysia in other parts of
  642. Southeast Asia Australia really has the
  643. possibility of being a hub for banking
  644. innovation across this entire region
  645. and so from that perspective I think
  646. it's important to realize that bitcoin
  647. is not some things that should be
  648. regulated without at least some
  649. consideration for the possibility so I
  650. talked a bit about the idea of bitcoin
  651. being much more than we can anticipate
  652. at the moment an open network which
  653. combines the characteristics of slow
  654. money on fast money it can do small
  655. transactions and large transactions it
  656. transcends borders it's open to
  657. innovation and all of those
  658. characteristics make it a very exciting
  659. space I'm very excited to be in the
  660. space I think there are a lot of young
  661. people who see this as an opportunity to
  662. develop a career and I hope as I'm
  663. seeing here that Australia is one of the
  664. places that really is able to take
  665. advantage of Bitcoin and create a
  666. booming new industry
  667. [Music]
  668. we
  669. wait
  670. [Music]
  671. Oh
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