The corporation as essentially evil

RoanGrow
I care.
13:42 RoanGrow
I just loves playing with colors.
RoanGrow
Depends. I know Quebec pays. I think Ontario doesnt. You get loans, not grants, unless yer gifted or 'special'
RoanGrow
Spend long enough time on the dole, and they might pay for it.
BakrCree
RoanGrow: What grade would you give to global society in 2022?
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RoanGrow
BakrCree : In Canada or in Quebec ?
BakrCree
"global society"
RoanGrow
Thats... Earth ?
BakrCree
Mmmhmm.
RoanGrow
I mean. Grading comparatively to what ? Im not aware of another planet with sentience in this galaxy.
BakrCree
Have there ever been any "global societies" in spacetime?
RoanGrow
Exactly.
BakrCree
Okay.
BakrCree
Well, I went ahead and put you on block.
harelip
Of course. They are already here.
BakrCree
Computing block time.
BakrCree
Yes, there have been other "global societies" in spacetime.
BakrCree
Earth in 2021.
BakrCree
Earth in 2020.
BakrCree
Earth in 1945.
BakrCree
Earth in 1888.
BakrCree
Et cetera.
BakrCree
Let's go ahead and put you on block for the rest of the year.
BakrCree
Notice, too, his usage of "on the dole".
BakrCree
In 2022, when global society is in utter collapse due to accumulation of wealth in a few elites, he's worried about 1970s right-wing narratives about people "on the dole".
BakrCree
Which is false consciousness programmed into him by global elites that will murder him and his entire family for some more money.
harelip
Right-wingers are on the corporate welfare dole, though.
harelip
Sesame Street will filled with puppets on the dole.
BakrCree
I would probably disagree with that phrasing.
harelip
will=is
BakrCree
Welfare in this country is concentrated in corporations -- that's certainly true.
BakrCree
But I think corporations can largely be thought of as independent of the traditional left-right model, certainly as it's applied in common political analysis.
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BakrCree
For example, both parties are legitimacy creation machines for many of the same corporations.
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it gives me great pleasure to know that this cesspool is slowly dying
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BakrCree
You could argue, more abstractly, that the corporate structure is essentially right-wing, though, with which I'd likely agree.
harelip
One person's misery is another person's jouissance.
BakrCree
That's probably true.
harelip
Corporations rely on the myth of efficiency.
BakrCree
Agreed.
BakrCree
It might be true that corporations are pretty efficient in a local context over a constrained set of variables.
harelip
Efficiency just means laying off workers to keep profits high.
BakrCree
Corporate control of the media then restricts analysis to those local contexts with that constrained set of variables.
BakrCree
Repeat 15000 times.
harelip
Fare the well.
BakrCree
Corporations are one of the lest efficient structures ever designed, given a long-term, global context over all variables (commonly referenced in different analysis emerging from various, major cultures, religions, and philosophies).
harelip
Old bean.
evermindN
corporation are artificial dissipation networks, turning entropy into envy
BakrCree
Using a dualistic cosmology, I think we can generally say that 'good' is optimization over the non-local, and 'evil' is optimization over the local.
harelip
Entropy into Envy would be a good band name.
BakrCree
Evolution, then, would generally be an 'evil' optimization program, with some 'good' aspects, especially in diverse ecological networks with metabolically linked organisms, or in structures like the brain that allow simulation and prediction of the universe, i.e. strictly non-local.
13:59 BakrCree
In this context, the corporation is an essentially evil organization, as it was strictly built in law, economics, and culture to optimize over the local: a targeted industry for a targeted individual -- initially king -- or targeted individuals -- shareholders in the 'public' formulation -- while being unaware of other species, long timeframes, ecological disruption, etc.