Type Me Krayfish2

EternallyBurntOut07/31/2019
So I’ve restarted my channel
As I said I would
Is there a questionaire that anyone thinks I should specifically answer?
Im also going to make a new moodboard rather than share my old set

Lady Lavender07/31/2019
Ahh what were you looking for again? So I can pick you out a good questionnaire

EternallyBurntOut07/31/2019
Basically anything tbh
Socionics, tritype order
Maybe core if I was just wrong from the get go
Im debating on deleting my roles and pretending I’m starting fresh

Lady Lavender07/31/2019
https://www.personalitycafe.com/#/topics/111173
Personality Cafe
A community dedicated to helping you develop your personality through interactions with people who have the same personality as you.
I liked this PerCafe one
Idk if you have done it before

EternallyBurntOut07/31/2019
A couple years ago I did
I don’t mind doing it again tbh

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧07/31/2019
I'd recommend the one you wrote :wink: (that's the one I always recommend to people lol)
However.... it's best if you do someone else's.
lol

Lady Lavender07/31/2019
I did it too

EternallyBurntOut07/31/2019
Yeah that’s what I was thinking

Lady Lavender07/31/2019
I kinda want to post it for fun

EternallyBurntOut07/31/2019
I did mine semi recently, so I’ll post both
Do it, you still have your channel open

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧07/31/2019
I can't see that questionnaire since I don't have a perc account.
Is it the scenario one?

Lady Lavender07/31/2019
Nah
It's an enneagram one

EternallyBurntOut07/31/2019
I have scenario based ones hard lmao

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧07/31/2019
the one that starts with what is love?

EternallyBurntOut07/31/2019
I never know if I’m answering accurately and my responses are so iffy
No
Starts with asking about your drives

Lord Lavender 🦄💜07/31/2019
I might post a bunch of collages for typing vibes but otherwise I am pretty much settled on my type

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧07/31/2019
hehe
Lord Robo

Lord Lavender 🦄💜07/31/2019
:blush:

raskol08/02/2019
Would you be adverse to a typing session in VC? @EternallyBurntOut

EternallyBurntOut08/02/2019
Not at all, so long as you were able to account for the issues that come across with my social anxiety.  I’m a lot less precise and significantly more hasty/have long lag time in conversation
ALSO
I plan on responding to your typing request eventually, I appologize for the long wait on that
My mental health has been a bit finicky and I just finished my internship today

raskol08/02/2019
Don't sweat it. And just DM me whenever you're up for VC (I'm in the GMT +1 time zone).

EternallyBurntOut08/02/2019
Cool, I might get back to you with that on Sunday if that works for you?

raskol08/02/2019
Sure.
Hit me up when you're ready.

EternallyBurntOut08/04/2019
Sorry this is taking so long guys, for some reason I’m getting stuck on a couple of these questions lol
I finally got my friend into the enneagram and he seems to be convinced I’m a soc blind 5 @__@
Im pretty comfy with iv, but honestly when I do put out my q, I want to see if anyone’s willing to give me a full typing and pretend they know nothing of me prior

Lady Lavender08/04/2019
I can try
You don't seems so blind to me, but then again you're mostly sp af

EternallyBurntOut08/04/2019
I'd agree with that Robo
I still think I have soc.  It probably isn't my strongest trait, but there regardless hahaha.  Or at the very least, I cannot see sx in myself fully
https://pastebin.com/L0zciJ1e
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EternallyBurntOut08/04/2019
I've officially deleted all my roles, so have at it guys hahaha

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/04/2019
I shall look for ya when I fijd time

EternallyBurntOut08/04/2019
Thanks!

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/04/2019
Your welcome!

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧08/04/2019
I shall come back later. :GWergShibWink: ps make another collage!  :wink:

EternallyBurntOut08/04/2019
Here ya go


Lady Lavender08/04/2019
Hmmm looks 541 actually

EternallyBurntOut08/04/2019
Mm interesting
I could actually see that probably from this collage in particular

Lady Lavender08/04/2019
Lots of fear and alienation

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/04/2019
Had a read of your questionare and I pretty much think you are a task master lol maybe a 513 though but like 60% 6 and 40% 5

EternallyBurntOut08/04/2019
Yeah that's what I would've figured
Order wise, do you think 3 before 1 or the reverse?

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/04/2019
Hmmmmm
By far 1

EternallyBurntOut08/04/2019
Oh really?

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/04/2019
You are one of the most image last people ive come across lol :P
Indeed
Your 1 is very very obvious
5 6 and 1 all stand out

EternallyBurntOut08/04/2019
Oh lmao that's so funny hahaha
I guess it really is disintegration that has me relating so much to 3 then maybe

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/04/2019
I think so

EternallyBurntOut08/04/2019
My typical wings work you think (w5 w9 w4)?

Lady Lavender08/04/2019
Looks good to me

EternallyBurntOut08/04/2019
Also, I think I may settle with LII

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/04/2019
I agree
Those songs work
Wings

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧08/04/2019
I love your collages, Kray. I looked back at your other ones, too, and I think they are sp/so. I have a harder time placing yours... they have a somewhat sp/sx feel in a way, but I think there's not enough of the sx sort of sensuality to place them there. And they feel somewhat contraflow (so I considered so/sp), but I think maybe that's your 6 coming through, because there certainly are a lot of eyes looking at the viewer, and a sense of intimacy with the viewer-it's just maybe unwanted intimacy. There's a sense of having struggle with the outside world, with reality, that does seem fitting for 5 or 6...

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧08/04/2019
I agree with LL, your questionnaire strongly gave me the impressions of 6, 5, and 1. With a 3 added onto the end. It's really difficult for me to decide between 5 and 6...

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Yeah that was always my issue too with sx.  I know that, at least comparatively to sx F types, that sx T doesn’t always have that traditional sensuality, but I’ve always veered on the side of not being sx.
The thing is is that I immediately decided I wasn’t sx though.   There was something about sx that I don’t think I want/wanted to be.
But I’ve just introduced my friend to the enneagram and he seems inclined to think that I have an underlying sx influence?  And no soc.  Idk if I agree, he hasn’t exactly explained why he thinks that, and also he’s fairly new to the theory (although he’s catching on real quickly)
I have the same sort of issue with 5 and 6.  In terms of core fear, to my knowledge, I’d definitely go 5 over 6, but I feel as though I have too much doubt for a 5.  Im struggling to tell the difference between an anxiety disorder and 6, which is really dumb to say but I cannot really deny
I sort of leaned towards 6 initially because I pegged myself a coward hahaha, 6 vs 5 has always been a struggle.  Typically when that’s the case though, statistically you’re a 6 so I’ve went with that

Lady Lavender08/05/2019
What do you think you integrate/disintegrate into?
I could see 9 integration I think

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Integration I have no clue, I could sort of argue both 8 or 9 I think?
Disintegration wise, I’ve argued both.  I settled on 3 because I sort of fall into insecurity, but I also do to a degree fall into a “why should I care at all?” Sort of escapism
I feel like I also become hyperactive in a workaholic sort of way, idk.  5s always talk about disintegrating to 7 as going on a subway to nowhere, doing drugs, or destroying their life savings briefly and I definitely cannot relate to that level of hedonism.  But idk if it has to be that extreme ?

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Your 5 and 6 are just so blanaced

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Like I cant pin which is stronger at all lol

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Lmao rip neither can I entirely
It’s a mess really

[t!] TatsumakiBOT08/05/2019
@EternallyBurntOut has leveled up! As poisonous as a(n) wisteria ❀❀...

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Yesss poisonous, fear me

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Lol :joy:
Welcome to the wisteria club
I think tbh
All head types are doubtufl
They just deal with it in diffrent wyas

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
I see
Everyone mentions that, I’ve always argued the doubt comes from 6
But also the core of the head triad is to be at loss with one’s inner guidance
So perhaps I’ve just overextrapolated my own definition of the type

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Agreed
As a 7w6 for me I think curiosity is how I deal with my inner doubt

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Mm I see, that makes sense
Hmmm

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Plus at your age your wing would be growing
So you could be a 6 grwoing into a 5 wing
Or a 5 growing into the 6 wing
My 6 wing has grown a lot those past few years
BTW you are possbly the most image last peron lol

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Lmao I wouldn’t have expected that hahaha
I genuinely thought 3 fit more than maybe it does
The shame types are very strange to me though, it took me a really long time to ever really “relate” to any of them at all
Which is funny, since I’m in no way shameless

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Hmmm
I think your shame might bne from your 1 actually
1s are often ashamed but in a more internal way

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Id probably agree tbh
A lot of my shame surrounds being “bad” or problematic anyways
Which sounds pretty 1 in retrospect

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
That's the 1 :P
Your 1 is very obvious

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Lol it really is, idk how I missed it for as long as I did

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
BTW I was wondering whos the most heady people here

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Hmmm
Maybe myself?  Or Cantrip?
Idk everyone here
You’re very 7, but 7 is positive outlook so it’s like “the anti head head type”

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Agreed :P
5 and 6 are more classicaly heady

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Awbro also sounds very head when she speaks, idk if she’s still here though

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
7 is like hmmm in denial in head
Like Im not gonna think about nasty stuff

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Lol

Lady Lavender08/05/2019
How heady am I? :smiley:

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Not intensely?
There’s a point where I thought you might be head last over image last
But it’s defiantly there

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
BTW do I seem more gut or image last

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
You have cute 6, not overtly neurotic/stiff
Hmm
I kind of want to say image because there’s so much 9
But also the shame is definitely apperent

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
I love enneagram so much

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
So I guess lightly shame last
Lmao same

Lady Lavender08/05/2019
Apparently my last questionnaire came off shame 2nd to my boi

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Neither of you are super apperent for image vs gut last
Oh really?
Hmm
Im going to have to check that out after work
I saw you posted that yesterday

Lady Lavender08/05/2019
Sweet ^_^

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
My impression was that it had a weird 7 flair
I almost question if you might be 9w1 6w7 3w4 so/sp instead and the soc is accenting the shame triad a little
Im going to take a deeper look though and see what I can figure out

Lady Lavender08/05/2019
It's possible!
But am I contraflow hmm

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
That could be the same for me with my So/Sp making me seem more shame :P
BTW I wonder which insisnts amp up which values

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Theoretically, sx should amp head, so heart, and sp gut

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Like I could see SP doms seeming more gut than they are
Or Sx more hearty

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
However, I think it depends on the type preferences you have as well
Like sx is going to amp 7 more than 6 for example since 6 tends to be sx blind

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
I do find plenty of Sx dom 6s

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
And sx would also probably amp up 4

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
They tend to  mistype as 8 though

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Oh yeah for sure
They mistype as 3s and 8s I find, they don’t see their anxiety as well
“Im fearless” while vibrating in the corner sort of thing
I’ve seen cp/sx 6s mistype a lot as 7w8 as well

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Me too
Esp the NJ 6s

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Yeah I always find that super bizzar
Oof that’s still mispelled

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Like I find often NJ 6s tend to have a wierd fixation woith Se

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Especially since 7 is anti Ni lol
For sure

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Like I knew a CP ENFJ 6w7
BTW I was wondering which 7 seems the most clasically 7 and hte least 7

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
In terms of pure enneagram or mbti?
714 i can never tell is 7 even though it accents the idealism

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Classical 7 is probably 792 lol

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
When I think of 7, I think of 7w6, just because I’ve had more exposure

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Triple postiv eoutlook
And So/Sx
BTW I wonder how classical are we for our types :P
For you hmmm
You are a classical 5w6/6w6 :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Lol yeah
x13 rather than a 9 or 4 sort of switches things up but I don’t think it’s super out there

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Indeed
You are veyr comptency focused

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
963 is sort of odd for INFP, but not way out there
Lol yeah it’s a big fixation for me
Are you ENFP or ENTP?

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
ENFP

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Regardless I don’t think that tritype is uncommon at all for either type
That’s what I thought
I like the way your 4 compliments your Fi I think
794 is probably loosely one of my favorite tritypes

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Thanks :D
BTW I think oddest 7 is hmmm
713 maybe
Double comptency would make them far more serious and not as opmistic or idealsitc

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Yeah I’d agree
My roommates that (731) and it’s really bizzar to deal with
Either that or a soft 3 core
He’s so apt at solving problems and rationalizing everything that it’s always funny to catch how much he reframes life

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
In a way my 7 cor eis weird
Being double withdrawn means im not as outgoing as most of my 7 brehten

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Your 7 is a lot softer than usual 7

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Like I would get drained by a rave or a big party

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Yeah I can see that for sure
Your tritype is also I guess atypical for 7 stereotypically despite being relatively common for 7
Because 7 is so outwards seeking, and 4 and 9 really reel it in

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Plus the 4 adds a element of interpution tot he positive outlook
Adds pessmestic and broody ideas to the mix
BTW I wonder what tritype is the most rigid

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
135 probably?  Or 126?

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Hmmmmm

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Triple superego might take the win there

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Both seem good

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Even 136 competes, but just because it’s in between

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Super ego types can be rather hmmm
Set on doing the corret thing

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
For sure
I have to go for now btw, I have work

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/05/2019
Have fun!

EternallyBurntOut08/05/2019
Thank y’all for your help and tolerance of my wishy washyness btw

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧08/05/2019
You're trying to understand yourself better. That's not wishy washyness.

Lady Lavender08/11/2019
How's it coming?

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
Oof I didn't see this till now
I've been thinking about it, I'm still leaning towards 6w5 I think, I'm planning to monologue a little bit to see if anyone catches where I'm being confused

Lady Lavender08/11/2019
I feel like you do integrate to 9
You just feel like a 9 at times
Although you said you had more 5 fears so hmm

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
A lot of people say I come across very 9
I could very well just be a 9 fixer?
Although sp6 in general is supposed to look like 9 to a degree
My friend also recently suggested that maybe I was overall just a 9 core instead, although he thinks I’m too reactive for 9w1
And that I’d be 9w8 instead lmao

Lady Lavender08/11/2019
It does
Yeah you're too reactive I think
Though not overly so
They really do look alike
Like what is Shaggy?

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
Oh
That’s a really hard one
Definitely a 9 and 6 combo for sure
Mmm
I'm going to monologue about inta/disintegration lines for 6, 9, and 5...  And 1 too since that's the disinta/integration lines I relate most to
And you guys let me know if any of what I say makes sense?
Unless I figure it out on my own hahaha no ones really obligated, I just do better thinking out loud
6
Integration to 9: I'm not sure I'd be able to quite quote this integration, but generally speaking, being that I'm relatively tense people think  it would be better that I calm down and stop trying to structure everything.
Disintegration to 3: I'm inclined to think that disintegration to a shame type is probably likely, especially recently I've been incredibly insecure.  I have a tendency towards work, and especially when stressed I tend to submerge myself in activity/work in order to feel as though I'm not stagnating and I'm actually doing something of worth.  I tend to drop people at random to be more independent
5
Integration to 8: I'm relatively passive in general, looking to work around things rather than actually plow through things and am more likely to sit for hours planning how to solve something or placating than actually do things.  8 integration could work because, in better health, I guess I can become a bit belligerent and force myself to make decisions/"just do it" rather than just sitting and waiting for the solution to just come to me.  I'm also more vocal and angry about my needs I guess, if I recognize them at all
Disintegration to 7:  Back to the submersion in activity, although it might be a lot more work oriented than I'd imaging 7.  Especially when feeling trapped, I tend towards escapism, sometimes eating or doing things blindly harmful because I don't care enough/eh I never let myself do anything anyways.  May be too light for my disintegration, I have trouble letting go and actually having fun even in my worst health
9
Integration to 3:  It's weird to think of myself integrating into a shame type, but I think from what I've read it's possible?  I consider myself needless/live in extreme apathy, and integration to 3 is all about gaining a sense of self, acknowledging needs, and actually pushing for the goal which I can relate to.  As I mentioned in 5, in good health I can be loud and disagreeable, especially when I actually have the willpower to push towards my needs.
Disintegration to 6:  Apparently as a kid I was very easy going, and right now I'm very much not.  I can get pretty anxious and reactive, trying to predict and understand everything.  Excess caution.  I've never catastrophized to this point though?
And I'll do 1 just because it's the line I relate most to.  I'm 100% not a 1 core, however, maybe this will reveal what lines I actually have?

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/11/2019
Hmmm I can see Sp 1w9
Sp 1s are said to be very anxious
Your core is imo 5w6 6w5 or 1w9
Can't see anything else

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
Hm interesting
You're not the first one who's said that tbh
I don't know if I have the moral edge of 1 enough to be a 1 core, but then again I'm pretty rule oriented/have a conscious?  Idk I'll monologue
1
Integration to 7:  Basically what everyone has told me to do with my life. I have very little access to pleasure/awareness of that and struggle to really let loose and just enjoy things.  Outside of the assertion I've mentioned, being able to just let go  and allow myself to be once again as exploratory and curious as I was once is something I'd definitely benefit from
Integration to 4: My friends consider me somewhat edgy lmao.  At my worst, I can become jealous and insecure and become absorbed in self hatred.  I've mentioned it before, but at my worst I can be "overtly unique," pushing towards interests that are specifically counter and blaming others for blindly following the culture because they're weak

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/11/2019
Yeah you are very gut heavy as well as head heavy

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
I see
I've had people tell me I'm not angry enough to be a 1
But through the internet
Also though I'm not incredibly decisive and struggle with asserting my beliefs when I have them so I'm probably not a 1, at least not a 1 core

Lady Lavender08/11/2019
You're salty though UwU
I could see it

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
I'm very salty haha

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/11/2019
You are :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Funny enough I've considered a 1w9 fix but I think a lot of my 1 is my 7 disengtqtijg

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
Ah rip
Yeah
It's definitely that, I apologize but you are a 9 meme

Lady Lavender08/11/2019
No me

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
You tUwU

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/11/2019
True I am very 9 even though its not my core :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Btw back to ya krsy

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
(Agreed btw)

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/11/2019
I can confidently rule out a 9 influence
You lack the natural flow I see from 9 cores or fivers
Plus lack of poat8ve outlook

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
Surprisingly, I used to think I had a lot of positive outlook
I'm pretty sure that was just the fake 3 positive outlook though hahaha
But I agree I think, I don't think I'm 9, I'm too comfortable with conflict I think

Lady Lavender08/11/2019
Below average agreeableness hehe

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
I guess so?  I can’t see it lmao

Lady Lavender08/11/2019
I would have guessed average

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
It usually says I’m relatively low in agreeable, I think I’m average as well
Maybe slightly above even?
My friend was shocked I scored average though hahaha, he thought I’d be floor level which is funny to me
And he scored 17 lmao

Lady Lavender08/11/2019
One time I got 4% extroversion on a test :sweat_smile:
But I am probably getting off topic

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
Lmao actually same
I got 1% once
I was in pretty poor health though, typically I get between 10 and 15%
Which is still low but eh

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/11/2019
I tevd to get between 35 and 50%
On E vs I

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
I can see that

Lady Lavender08/11/2019
The only e question I answered not low on is "I am interested in people"
People are fascinating

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
I can agree with that
I generally choose neutral on that because I tend to consider myself self absorbed though

Lady Lavender08/11/2019
Samee
Random thought, being an SP 3 fix is weird

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/11/2019
So 4 is wierd too and Sp 7

Lady Lavender08/11/2019
It's a conflict between wanting everyone to love your outfit and going ewww what are you staring at

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
Lmao pretty much
For me it’s “I want to be super cool and successful” and also “if you look at me or even consider giving me a compliment I’m going to throw you in a lake”

Lady Lavender08/11/2019
Lmao me :sweat_smile:

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧08/11/2019
@Lord Lavender  🦄💜, how do you see 5s being naturally flowing?
Kray, your monologue was helpful to me, to see how I might integrate to 3. That maybe it's reflected in me standing up for what I think is right/engaging in conflict instead of not?
From what you wrote, I think 6 is most likely for you.

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
Could be

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/11/2019
9s flow is hmmmm

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
I also believe he meant fixes
Not fives

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/11/2019
Like a certain go with the flow

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
Considering the context of the sentence
Interesting you thought 6 was the strongest argument of those

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧08/11/2019
Ahhhh, fixes makes more sense than 5s
lol

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
I wasn’t satisfied with my argument, but I have a feeling that 6 is probably the answer
There’s so many issues I have with 6, but like, I fit no other type really

Lady Lavender08/11/2019
Like you said you didn't fit the fear?
That feels strange
And yet 6 does fit you

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
I mean, I am doubtful and such and I rely heavily on information and such to maintain stability
I just really can’t relate to fearing being without an outside security structure

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/11/2019
Btw I still think Sp 1 xpuid be ya

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
Or without external guidance
Mm yeah?
Idk it’s been suggested before

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/11/2019
Sp 1 does sound a lot like you

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
Bits and pieces of it really does
Hm
I’ll have to take another look into it tbh
Technically, 1s core fear is the most relatable of all of them
But then again there’s a lot of things offskew in terms of 1 so idk
My types a mess, always has been

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/11/2019
Awwwww
You are fussy over details :smiley:
Sp 1

EternallyBurntOut08/11/2019
Lol yee

EternallyBurntOut08/12/2019
How do I convince my friend I’m not soc blind?
He thinks I could be a sp/sx 6 now
At least he understands now I’m too reactive for 9

Lady Lavender08/12/2019
Why sx?

EternallyBurntOut08/12/2019
He suggested sx from the beginning
I think he saw cp6 in me?
I might try to explain that cp 6 isn’t exclusive to sx and see where that goes

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/12/2019
I cant see you as CP 6 at all and I honesltyt hink tbh that CP 6 is just a 6 and 8 combo or a 4 and 6 combo

EternallyBurntOut08/12/2019
I actually disagree with that
I just look at the cp vs p dichotomy for all the types
Ie. 3,1,8,cp6, and 4 are all cp types
I don’t think I’m flat cp either though, I’m definitely in the center of the cp vs p line though
Im pretty sure though he’s catching on to my literal anxiety disorder rather than actual personality traits though

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/12/2019
Hmmmm what makes the above CP types?

Lady Lavender08/12/2019
I didn't know other types besides 6 were CP

EternallyBurntOut08/12/2019
It’s goes about how each type counters their fear
The cp types attack their fears, the p types run
3 counters the shame by integrating other personality traits that make them better into themselves
8 is obvious
4 counters shame with creating its own identity from shame + reactivity
1 counters their fear of bad by making themselves and the world in their ideals
Cp 6 is also obvious
Im a bit shakey on 4s definition but I’m assuming you guys get the idea?  I apologize I was busy and that was written haphazardly

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/12/2019
I got cha
As always you explained things well

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧08/12/2019
Why does he think you're so blind?
I guess the thing that makes me really think I am so blind is that I really am not good at knowing how other people see me.
I dunno if that helps you, though.

EternallyBurntOut08/12/2019
That’s more of a Fe Ignoring thing than a soc blind thing tbh
Soc id no better at knowing how others see them then soc blinds tbh, other factors have more of an effect on that
Though soc users are more likely to focus on that to a degree I’d think?
Im really unsure actually why he sees soc blind though, maybe because I’m so self absorbed/come across as though I strongly don’t care about others and specifically focus on specific individuals
I also strongly avoid group activities and tend to be unaware of culture/group happenings cuz I don’t care
People argue that’s a soc blind thing but I don’t think that’s always the case?  I’m just unsure
I don’t necessarily see sx in myself, unless I’m perceiving myself wrong I thought I could make a better argument for soc

EternallyBurntOut08/17/2019
Hey so you know how I was considering soc blindness briefly?
So
What if I’m actually a soc dom instead lmao
Iv makes little sense to me in my own life tbh, I relate so little to any of them
Im probably going to write a blerb about the ivs just to make sure my definitions are all correct
And then you guys can tell me I’m a dumb sp dom and that I should stop questioning
(And then I’ll close this channel because it’s just me being a wishy washy 6)

Lady Lavender08/17/2019
That's a bit surprising

EternallyBurntOut08/17/2019
Historically speaking I’ve been typed as soc dom before
Especially in the early days lol
So is probably the iv I have the weirdest relationship with anyhow

Lady Lavender08/17/2019
Why so?

EternallyBurntOut08/17/2019
There’s times when I can relate to it a lot and also times when it seems foreign to me
Or like something that could be me but I’ve completely suppressed while at the same time some trait I’ve never possessed
It’s wonky really

Lady Lavender08/17/2019
I could see you as contraflow but I know you ignore that dichotomy

EternallyBurntOut08/17/2019
Yeah exactly that too
I ignore the dichotomy because it makes no sense to me
But that doesn’t mean it holds no validity

Lady Lavender08/17/2019
It does seem a bit odd
So let's hear all about things

EternallyBurntOut08/17/2019
Give me like 20 min and I’ll monologue as per usual
:p

EternallyBurntOut08/17/2019
The Way I Relate/Don't Relate To The IVs
SP
Relate: I hold boundaries as a very important part of my personality.  I'm fairly slow to share information about myself and am unlikely to push into other people's boundaries as well.  Even with my lack of experience in that realm, things like paperwork and matters of responsibility have always been shafted to me because I'm naturally seen as someone who, by personality alone, would be good at that.  I am always surprised at people who completely ignore their health and do "stupid" or impulsive things that detriment the health.   I'm excellent with money and have a tendency to focus on security.  I'm fairly withdrawn and private.  Even when I think I'm oversharing, people tend to think they know nothing about me
Don't Relate: I'm very out of contact with my physical nature and health.  I am somewhat of an escapist at times, throwing myself into food and activity in detriment of my health.  Despite touting how I am a bounded person, I question if that's actually an unnatural defense mechanism of mine.  I'm prone to completely ignoring my own health and boundaries for the sake of anyone I care about in the slightest and do best when I'm absorbed in solving others' problems (although it's worth mentioning that this typically only applies to a specific person/specific people). My health and well being is and has always been on the bottom of the list in reference to others. Anything that makes me feel comfortable I tend to take as dangerous.

EternallyBurntOut08/17/2019
SO
Relate: I'm very insecure as a person and often find that I can only really understand myself in reference to others at times.  I'm prone to working for "the greater good" and tend to use that as an argument.  I'm very big on things like politeness and respectfulness and tend to roll my eyes when others are not.  When I was younger and healthier, I had a tendency towards having a global stance on things, desiring to be helpful to people at large and worrying about those in need.  I have a pretty high tolerance for people who others tend to consider as "fake," specifically those who put a mask on to placate others.  I enjoy the more philosophical aspects of politics.  I tend to consider myself only through my "role" in my family when unhealthy
Don't relate: I have no concept of culture at all and tend to be naturally unaware, clueless about, and uninterested in "group dynamics" to the point where it has genuinely irritated people that I'm so self absorbed and involved.   I have little motivation to change this. I see networking as a useless endevour which I should be able to overcome with hard work and capability.  I don't find comfort in community. While I'm good at coming across pleasant, I don't really "change face" depending on who I'm with.  I have little desire to share myself with the outside world and consider what's in my mind to be sacred.

EternallyBurntOut08/17/2019
SX
Relate: I am sometimes considered centered purely because I am drawn to extremes.  I can be very modal in personality, either completely black and white or only grey thinking, a complete hedonist or a complete ascetic, aloof and disconnected or blindly dedicated.   I'm very energetic and even though I lack confidence, eye contact is a big thing for me, which makes me come across as intense.  While I try to avoid this trait of mine like the plague, I feed off of the energy that you get when others can be completely open and unhinged with you.   I deny it strongly, but I struggle to find a sense of self purpose without that. Information to me is both sacred and energizing, especially when it comes to information others can give to you.   I have a tendency to pick someone I like and focus on them alone while neglecting other relationships. I struggle to be genuinely satisfied.
Don't relate: Despite all that, I don't think I'm particularly intense.  I tend to be fairly dispassionate and have trouble connecting to things.  I  fear merging/being overcame despite having thrived in a situation where I did just that, it feels as though I'm loosing myself.  I'm prone to completely ignoring my desires and drives in favor of stability.  Despite loving when others are raw with me, it's very difficult for me to reciprocate that rawness, I guess that makes me kind of leechy?  I have a bad tendency to drop people when I am bored with them and I kind of have to force myself to feel remorse.  I was initially repulsed by sx descriptions.

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧08/17/2019
I can relate a lot with what you said about sp. I don't think boundaries are necessarily sp... I have pretty strong boundaries, though letting so few in the the center makes me unhappy. I am also not sure about sx and bw thinking.

EternallyBurntOut08/17/2019
I was thinking specifically sx 1

EternallyBurntOut08/17/2019
Or like, the tendency towards extremes sx can have

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧08/17/2019
Hmm
Well
You definitely are not an unhealthy sx1

EternallyBurntOut08/17/2019
But also I’m probably not sx so like, that’s probably why some of the stuff I mentioned isn’t sx lol

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧08/17/2019
Because that's the type who tries to force their morals down other people's throats

EternallyBurntOut08/17/2019
Yeah
Im not like that, I think I’ve always been relatively easygoing in that sense
Except maybe when I was younger and more moralistic?
Im no 1 core in that respect

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/17/2019
Hmmm
What makes ya thibk Sx 1

EternallyBurntOut08/17/2019
I don’t
I just mentioned it because that’s one of the ways I can relate to sx

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧08/17/2019
Makes sense

EternallyBurntOut08/17/2019
Sx 1 is considered the ascetic at times and I relate to that
Or awkwardly extreme with some of the principles it follows?  Idk if I’m like that, but it doesn’t feel completely foreign

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧08/17/2019
I'll think on what you said more :happydog:

EternallyBurntOut08/17/2019
Nontheless, I am nowhere near sx dom, or at least I’d be shocked if I was lol
Thanks!

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/17/2019
Yeah you aren't Sx Dom at all

EternallyBurntOut08/18/2019
Im sort of leaning towards Im just heavy superego sp dom like I initially thought
(Sp/so)

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/19/2019
I concur with that

EternallyBurntOut08/24/2019
Hey, anyone know enough about socionics to differentiate harmonizing from normalizing types?
I sort of went with normalizing because, outside of relating to it decently, despite me believing my Si isn’t great, it’s one of the things people tend to notice in me
Like a fake persona I wear
But harmonizing was suggested multiple times, especially when people were considering ILE for me
For context, I’ve settled on LII

raskol08/24/2019
Both subtypes (harmonizing/normalizing) relate to distancing rather than contacting/connecting. In other words, what separates the two relates to the initiating/terminating dichotomy. If you are someone who is more likely to start a plethora of projects, often without finishing them, you are initiating--and therefore harmonizing. The reverse is true of normalizing.

Lady Lavender08/24/2019
I hope I am not interrupting but that makes me question me being normalizing

EternallyBurntOut08/24/2019
You type normalizingv
Wow
I would’ve pegged you either harmonizing or creative

Lady Lavender08/24/2019
Raskol said so :smile~1:

EternallyBurntOut08/24/2019
Im probably normalizing then by his definition
There’s some things I drop right at the end just before I finish, but I’m known for my work ethic
And hm
Wired

raskol08/24/2019
LII-N

EternallyBurntOut08/24/2019
EII-Normalizing sounds like it would be on the heavy serious end of of things
And I don’t peg you as that in the slightest

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/24/2019
How about me :blush:

EternallyBurntOut08/24/2019
Lord?  Harmonizing
Youre a soft extrovert who focuses a lot on pleasentness
That’s mostly a guess though

raskol08/24/2019
If you were contacting/connecting rather than distancing, I'd say creative. @Lord Lavender  🦄💜

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/24/2019
Thank you

EternallyBurntOut08/24/2019
I could see creative as well tbh

Lady Lavender08/24/2019
I know @raskol you thought I was normalizing but I start a ton of projects without finishing them
So uh

raskol08/24/2019
That settles it. Harmonizing it is.

EternallyBurntOut08/24/2019
Lii-N seems fitting enough, I’m a fake SLI anyhow
Yeah lady, I think harmonizing is fairly likely for you
Harmonizing also accents Fe if I’m not mistaken?
Could maybe explain why you mistyped as SEI?

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/24/2019
Bit fur you kray hmmm

EternallyBurntOut08/24/2019
(Thank you btw raskol)

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/24/2019
To try and be helpful hmmm
Imma say you feel harmonizing

EternallyBurntOut08/24/2019
Hmm interesting
I struggled a lot between the two
Because description wise, normalizing really hit the nail, except when it came to the procedural and following of culture and stuff sort of thing
And I’m incredibly complacent and try to be pleasant and warm to all, but I’m really not warm as a person
So it gets tough
Purely by accented functions, of normalizing accents Si and Te I was thinking it might be that but I agree, I sort of vibe harmonizing
I recall when reading of the dichotomy raskol mentioned, I struggled between those two in particular

EternallyBurntOut08/25/2019
Im probably going to log this in a couple of days
Im probably going to settle on INTP 6w5 1w9 3w4 sp/so, LII-N.  Don’t know Ne vs Ti subtype, but I’m assuming it’s probably Ti subtype
If that looks incorrect to anyone or you believe other ideas may be worth looking into, lmk.

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧08/25/2019
:happydog:

Lady Lavender08/25/2019
Can't complain

EternallyBurntOut08/25/2019
Actually does anyone have any opinion on my subtype Ti and Ne?
I know recently my Ti has been the only prominent thing about my type (ie. ISTP is starting to get suggested more than the two other Ne dom types)
But I used to have ENxP suggested a lot so idk

EternallyBurntOut08/27/2019
Im probably going to close this today as INTP 6w5 1w9 3w4 sp/so, LII-Ti, Normalizing
Speak now or forever hold your peace

Lord Lavender 🦄💜08/27/2019
I agree with that
That's a very accurate type imo

EternallyBurntOut08/27/2019
Cool, I’d think so as well

✧✶ɭน๓ιຖ❍นs✶✧08/27/2019
:GWergShibWink: