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  1. Feb 11 16:22:43 <michaeldcullen> PeanutButter, you pirate your music, don't fucking lie
  2. Feb 11 16:22:44 <Tinus> Only 400GB
  3. Feb 11 16:22:49 <Lumber> see rule 3 michaeldcullen :)
  4. Feb 11 16:22:59 <michaeldcullen> Lumber, it's true though :P
  5. Feb 11 16:23:02 <PeanutButter> I don't pirate my music
  6. Feb 11 16:23:04 <Lumber> you're right
  7. Feb 11 16:23:06 <PeanutButter> I haven't done so in years
  8. Feb 11 16:23:08 <Lumber> rule 3 is true
  9. Feb 11 16:23:14 <michaeldcullen> Yes indeed
  10. Feb 11 16:23:23 <PeanutButter> and I dont even have pirated music anymore
  11. Feb 11 16:24:09 <michaeldcullen> I need a Little Tikes Kidboard
  12. Feb 11 16:24:16 <michaeldcullen> Like, so badly
  13. Feb 11 16:25:10 * pcnoobmemobile has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
  14. Feb 11 16:25:14 * yokel has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
  15. Feb 11 16:25:31 <NeverSummer> Music I see no reason to steal. It's dirt cheap and DRM free from every service that matters.
  16. Feb 11 16:25:40 <NeverSummer> Movies tho...
  17. Feb 11 16:25:44 <michaeldcullen> What the actual fuck
  18. Feb 11 16:25:46 <michaeldcullen> Look at this
  19. Feb 11 16:25:46 <michaeldcullen> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-KEYBOARD-COMFORT-COMPUTER-KEY-BOARD-/311793592211?hash=item489858a793:g:bUwAAOSw5cNYkv9d
  20. Feb 11 16:25:48 <buildapcalien> Title: VINTAGE KEYBOARD.....COMFORT COMPUTER KEY BOARD | eBay (at www.ebay.co.uk)
  21. Feb 11 16:25:51 <DrDoofenshmirtz> You cant steal digital conent
  22. Feb 11 16:25:56 <DrDoofenshmirtz> content*
  23. Feb 11 16:26:06 <NeverSummer> DrDoofenshmirtz‚ shush.
  24. Feb 11 16:26:14 * pcnoobmemobile (2f96cfc3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.47.150.207.195) has joined
  25. Feb 11 16:26:14 <pcnoobmemobile> http://upl.co/uploads/image-35-861486851884.jpg still waiting
  26. Feb 11 16:26:15 <NeverSummer> No one needs your pedantic definitions.
  27. Feb 11 16:26:20 <DrDoofenshmirtz> NeverSummer> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeTybKL1pM4
  28. Feb 11 16:26:22 <buildapcalien> Title: Copying Is Not Theft - Official Version - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
  29. Feb 11 16:26:24 <DrDoofenshmirtz> heres a video for you then
  30. Feb 11 16:26:46 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuxO6CZptck
  31. Feb 11 16:26:47 <buildapcalien> Title: The IT Crowd Piracy Ad - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
  32. Feb 11 16:27:18 <NeverSummer> YOU KNOW THAT I MEANT
  33. Feb 11 16:27:22 <Lumber> DrDoofenshmirtz lol
  34. Feb 11 16:27:31 <Lumber> DAE musicians should not be compensated
  35. Feb 11 16:27:34 <pcnoobmemobile> http://upl.co/upload/m4Kw4Is9Y
  36. Feb 11 16:27:36 <buildapcalien> Title: imageimage (at upl.co)
  37. Feb 11 16:27:49 <Lumber> inb4 concert sales
  38. Feb 11 16:27:51 <michaeldcullen> Lumber, independent musicians or mainstream?
  39. Feb 11 16:27:51 <pcnoobmemobile> i told u im not lying huhu
  40. Feb 11 16:27:58 <pcnoobmemobile> now 50 errors
  41. Feb 11 16:27:59 <Lumber> why does it matter michaeldcullen
  42. Feb 11 16:28:04 <NeverSummer> ^
  43. Feb 11 16:28:04 <michaeldcullen> pcnoobmemobile, replace your RAM, we've told you
  44. Feb 11 16:28:29 <michaeldcullen> Lumber, most people in the mainstream entertainment industry are corrupt as fuck, including the artists
  45. Feb 11 16:28:30 <NeverSummer> That's one I have no tolerance for. Stealing from Walmart and stealing from a homeless guy are wrong for the exact same reasons.
  46. Feb 11 16:28:34 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ and?
  47. Feb 11 16:28:37 <michaeldcullen> So fuck 'em.
  48. Feb 11 16:28:39 <pcnoobmemobile> what about motherboard maybe its damage also? can memtest detect it?
  49. Feb 11 16:28:44 <DrDoofenshmirtz> no
  50. Feb 11 16:28:44 <Lumber> welp
  51. Feb 11 16:28:45 <c-pin> Tinus, also nice vid
  52. Feb 11 16:28:46 <c-pin> also Tinus https://my.mixtape.moe/juhxnj.jpg
  53. Feb 11 16:28:47 <NeverSummer> A person's actions or opinions do not remove their right to their own property.
  54. Feb 11 16:28:48 <DrDoofenshmirtz> memtest is just for memory
  55. Feb 11 16:28:50 <Lumber> that's an opinion you're allowed to have
  56. Feb 11 16:28:51 <DrDoofenshmirtz> its in the title
  57. Feb 11 16:28:54 <Tinus> nice vid c-pin?
  58. Feb 11 16:28:56 <Tinus> What vid
  59. Feb 11 16:28:56 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, except youre not taking their property
  60. Feb 11 16:28:57 <NeverSummer> Lumber‚ pls.
  61. Feb 11 16:28:59 <c-pin> the hitler one
  62. Feb 11 16:29:00 <pcnoobmemobile> thank you..
  63. Feb 11 16:29:01 <c-pin> also but like
  64. Feb 11 16:29:03 <michaeldcullen> You're just not compensating them for being an asshole
  65. Feb 11 16:29:03 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ again you know what I mean.
  66. Feb 11 16:29:07 <c-pin> shit this camera sucks
  67. Feb 11 16:29:10 <c-pin> ima go get a better one brb
  68. Feb 11 16:29:18 <Tinus> Bruh I talked about LTO tape
  69. Feb 11 16:29:19 <michaeldcullen> I know what you mean, but it's an important distinction
  70. Feb 11 16:29:30 <michaeldcullen> I have a feeling this is one of the few things me and DoofDerpTard would agree on
  71. Feb 11 16:29:33 <NeverSummer> Not every rich musician is a jerk.
  72. Feb 11 16:29:34 <Lumber> not you NeverSummer
  73. Feb 11 16:29:43 <NeverSummer> And there's nothing noble about being a struggling artist.
  74. Feb 11 16:29:45 <DrDoofenshmirtz> pcnoobmemobile> https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KJbkcf/corsair-memory-cmy32gx3m4c1866c10
  75. Feb 11 16:29:47 <buildapcalien> Title: Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (CMY32GX3M4C1866C10) - PCPartPicker (at pcpartpicker.com)
  76. Feb 11 16:29:49 <DrDoofenshmirtz> theres your repalcement RAM
  77. Feb 11 16:30:16 <NeverSummer> Everyone is entitled to the payment they ask for the work they create if you would like to consume it.
  78. Feb 11 16:30:17 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, successful people in most artistic fields usually just phone it in
  79. Feb 11 16:30:23 <NeverSummer> So?
  80. Feb 11 16:30:28 <NeverSummer> If it's phoned in stop listening.
  81. Feb 11 16:30:37 <NeverSummer> Stealing it means you still want the content.
  82. Feb 11 16:30:41 <NeverSummer> And are therefore expected to pay.
  83. Feb 11 16:31:03 <michaeldcullen> Actually there's several use cases where _I_ don't want to listen to someone's work, but still need to posess it
  84. Feb 11 16:31:09 <Lumber> burned
  85. Feb 11 16:31:16 <michaeldcullen> But we're getting close to #3, so let's stop :p
  86. Feb 11 16:31:22 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ what case is that?
  87. Feb 11 16:31:22 <Lumber> expected to pay at that point
  88. Feb 11 16:31:31 <Lumber> we're debating it
  89. Feb 11 16:31:37 <Lumber> not talking about how to do it
  90. Feb 11 16:31:53 <michaeldcullen> Just getting close to an admission of guilt here
  91. Feb 11 16:32:17 * zozzlesz (6c331c59@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.51.28.89) has joined
  92. Feb 11 16:32:20 <NeverSummer> Literally everyone in this channel has listened to if not aquired themselves pirated music.
  93. Feb 11 16:32:23 * yokel (~yokel@unaffiliated/contempt) has joined
  94. Feb 11 16:32:26 <NeverSummer> We are mods. We're saying it's okay to talk about.
  95. Feb 11 16:32:29 <michaeldcullen> Okay, take DJing for example
  96. Feb 11 16:32:32 <zozzlesz> i'm gonna make a PC in an xbone
  97. Feb 11 16:33:00 <michaeldcullen> I'm playing a set, and someone comes up to me, "play XYZ"
  98. Feb 11 16:33:03 <c-pin> i am no booooooooooored
  99. Feb 11 16:33:08 <michaeldcullen> "I don't take requests, sorry"
  100. Feb 11 16:33:13 <c-pin> PLAY FREEBIRD
  101. Feb 11 16:33:13 <michaeldcullen> "Play XYZ or I smash your laptop"
  102. Feb 11 16:33:22 <NeverSummer> zozzlesz‚ you could just use that Silverstone case and get about the same end result.
  103. Feb 11 16:33:33 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ wat
  104. Feb 11 16:33:33 <michaeldcullen> Yeah, I'm gonna pirate. Then delete their shit afterwards.
  105. Feb 11 16:33:42 <NeverSummer> That's a terrible example.
  106. Feb 11 16:33:43 <Lumber> are you getting paid to do the gig
  107. Feb 11 16:33:44 <pcnoobmemobile> hmm
  108. Feb 11 16:33:44 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, it's happened
  109. Feb 11 16:33:49 <Lumber> so you're using their content
  110. Feb 11 16:33:50 <Lumber> to get paid
  111. Feb 11 16:33:52 <zozzlesz> I like that casew
  112. Feb 11 16:33:53 <zozzlesz> the ML something
  113. Feb 11 16:33:53 <NeverSummer> ^
  114. Feb 11 16:33:54 <c-pin> Lumber, im gonna quote you on that next time someone gets kicked for discussing piracy :p
  115. Feb 11 16:33:54 <NeverSummer> lolol
  116. Feb 11 16:33:56 <Lumber> and don't expect to pay for it
  117. Feb 11 16:34:03 <michaeldcullen> Lumber, and yet, the VENUE is the one who pays for the licence to play their work
  118. Feb 11 16:34:04 <NeverSummer> So you steal from artists so that you can get paid as an artist.
  119. Feb 11 16:34:07 <NeverSummer> Bold strategy.
  120. Feb 11 16:34:19 * pcnoobme (2f96cfc3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.47.150.207.195) has joined
  121. Feb 11 16:34:19 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, no, but this is literally a gun to your head moment.
  122. Feb 11 16:34:21 <c-pin> NeverSummer, speaking of legal music
  123. Feb 11 16:34:27 <NeverSummer> No it's not for one.
  124. Feb 11 16:34:28 <michaeldcullen> So technically I'm being mugged.
  125. Feb 11 16:34:31 <NeverSummer> And for two so what? Buy the song.
  126. Feb 11 16:34:31 <c-pin> i just got a ticket to see lorna shore, rings of saturn, and carnifux
  127. Feb 11 16:34:35 <c-pin> i feel like a kid again
  128. Feb 11 16:34:35 <CustardFilled> Lumber, let's go to a gig
  129. Feb 11 16:34:36 <NeverSummer> You're being paid for the gig.
  130. Feb 11 16:34:39 <c-pin> carnifex*
  131. Feb 11 16:34:43 <NeverSummer> You're expected to supply your own gear and content.
  132. Feb 11 16:34:45 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, not always.
  133. Feb 11 16:34:47 <c-pin> CustardFilled, lets go see a gig
  134. Feb 11 16:34:55 <c-pin> I GO TO CONCERTS ALL THE TIME
  135. Feb 11 16:34:56 <NeverSummer> Meaning you're expected to use the money for the gig to purchase hardware and music.
  136. Feb 11 16:34:56 <pcnoobme> what ram do u recommend c-pin for my pc? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KPWgpb
  137. Feb 11 16:34:57 <michaeldcullen> I've done plenty of events where I wasn't paid
  138. Feb 11 16:34:57 <buildapcalien> Title: Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core, Radeon HD 7970 3GB - System Build - PCPartPicker (at pcpartpicker.com)
  139. Feb 11 16:34:59 <Lumber> CustardFilled hmm?
  140. Feb 11 16:35:02 <c-pin> pcnoobme, cheapest compatible
  141. Feb 11 16:35:12 <c-pin> i guess 8gb
  142. Feb 11 16:35:15 <c-pin> or 16
  143. Feb 11 16:35:16 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ then you're expected to pay out of pocket.
  144. Feb 11 16:35:25 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, which, like I said, is mental
  145. Feb 11 16:35:27 <NeverSummer> You working for free is not justification to force that choice on other artists.
  146. Feb 11 16:35:36 <NeverSummer> If you want to be paid then don't accept unpaid work.
  147. Feb 11 16:35:49 <michaeldcullen> Okay, we're clearly not going to agree on this lol
  148. Feb 11 16:35:54 <c-pin> you both suck
  149. Feb 11 16:35:59 <pcnoobme> c-pin i dont need 32 gb? i run multiple android emulator on my pc for my games
  150. Feb 11 16:36:01 <NeverSummer> "I'm not getting paid so you shouldn't either." is not a logical line of thought.
  151. Feb 11 16:36:09 <c-pin> also i got goobegone on my tape and my bookshelf ;-;
  152. Feb 11 16:36:18 <zozzlesz> im gonna do a try not to laugh challenge
  153. Feb 11 16:36:19 <c-pin> pcnoobme, cheapest 32gb then
  154. Feb 11 16:36:25 <c-pin> zozzlesz, those suck
  155. Feb 11 16:36:31 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, no, but "I don't want your crap, someone's going to hurt me if I don't get it for them, what do you expect me to do?" IS a logical line of thought.
  156. Feb 11 16:36:44 * pcnoobmemobile has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
  157. Feb 11 16:36:48 <pcnoobme> does adding another graphics card help lessen the lag?
  158. Feb 11 16:36:56 <pcnoobme> or process
  159. Feb 11 16:36:56 <NeverSummer> You've put yourself in a bad situation. Stealing from others to escape it is hardly the correct answer.
  160. Feb 11 16:36:58 <michaeldcullen> pcnoobme, stop trolling
  161. Feb 11 16:37:09 <pcnoobme> im not trolling please believe me
  162. Feb 11 16:37:13 <michaeldcullen> You are trolling
  163. Feb 11 16:37:18 <pcnoobme> i dont know about computer
  164. Feb 11 16:37:26 <pcnoobme> :(
  165. Feb 11 16:37:28 <NeverSummer> "I got mugged and lost my wallet so I had to rob the bank to afford dinner."
  166. Feb 11 16:37:29 <michaeldcullen> We've told you numerous times that your system is fine, you don't need to upgrade, and if you've got errors in memtest you need to replace your RAM
  167. Feb 11 16:37:56 <NeverSummer> You don't get to force your bad luck on innocent third parties.
  168. Feb 11 16:38:30 <c-pin> NeverSummer, whats the argument here
  169. Feb 11 16:38:31 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, well if you're ever in a position where you have to break a minor law in order to avoid worse consequences for yourself or your loved ones
  170. Feb 11 16:38:39 <michaeldcullen> We'll see how you choose to behave
  171. Feb 11 16:38:50 <pcnoobme> okay ill go buy ram now i hope they have it. ill just tell them that i need 32gb ram compatible for my motherboard? then ill give them my mothercoard name?
  172. Feb 11 16:38:53 <NeverSummer> c-pin‚ stealing music is okay if you are threatened while DJing to play music you don't own and don't want to purchase.
  173. Feb 11 16:38:53 <c-pin> if you have to break a law youre being a dick
  174. Feb 11 16:39:02 <c-pin> thats bs just tell em to fuck off
  175. Feb 11 16:39:13 <pcnoobme> motherboard name*
  176. Feb 11 16:39:14 <michaeldcullen> c-pin, would you break the speed limit to get someone to the hospital?
  177. Feb 11 16:39:17 <c-pin> no
  178. Feb 11 16:39:20 <c-pin> wait yes
  179. Feb 11 16:39:22 <c-pin> that isnt illegal
  180. Feb 11 16:39:27 <michaeldcullen> Er, yes it is
  181. Feb 11 16:39:33 <c-pin> 10mph you wont get pulled over
  182. Feb 11 16:39:35 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ "well if you're ever in a position where you have to break a minor law"
  183. Feb 11 16:39:39 <pcnoobme> :(
  184. Feb 11 16:39:41 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, yes
  185. Feb 11 16:39:50 <c-pin> pcnoobme, replace your ram and fuck off tbh
  186. Feb 11 16:39:50 <michaeldcullen> c-pin, 10%, not 10mph
  187. Feb 11 16:39:52 <c-pin> we love you
  188. Feb 11 16:39:56 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ "well if you're ever in a position where you can choose to break a minor law or pay $2"
  189. Feb 11 16:40:00 <c-pin> oh 10% then
  190. Feb 11 16:40:02 <NeverSummer> I would pay $2.
  191. Feb 11 16:40:13 <c-pin> true
  192. Feb 11 16:40:14 <pcnoobme> thanks for the help c-pin and sorry for the trouble
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  194. Feb 11 16:40:17 <c-pin> np
  195. Feb 11 16:40:21 <NeverSummer> This is not a life threatening situation and it is not a forced choice.
  196. Feb 11 16:40:23 <c-pin> <333
  197. Feb 11 16:40:24 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, and you'd do that what, 50 times a night?
  198. Feb 11 16:40:34 <c-pin> wait are we talking about being threatened to do piracy
  199. Feb 11 16:40:35 <NeverSummer> You are threatened 50 times a night to play music you don't have?
  200. Feb 11 16:40:39 <NeverSummer> Sounds like you're a crap DJ.
  201. Feb 11 16:40:41 <c-pin> thats the most stupid idea ive ever heard
  202. Feb 11 16:40:44 <NeverSummer> You should have more than 8 songs.
  203. Feb 11 16:40:57 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, obviously not, but you're missing the point.
  204. Feb 11 16:41:00 <NeverSummer> And if you don't you should legally purchase more.
  205. Feb 11 16:41:00 <c-pin> just bring internet and download it if youre so scared
  206. Feb 11 16:41:01 * phoenixx (4b25c26b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.37.194.107) has joined
  207. Feb 11 16:41:01 <Lumber> michaeldcullen do you not have access to spotify
  208. Feb 11 16:41:03 <Lumber> or soundcloud
  209. Feb 11 16:41:07 <Lumber> for those small requests
  210. Feb 11 16:41:08 <c-pin> yeah just youtube it
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  212. Feb 11 16:41:13 <michaeldcullen> AH HERE WE GO
  213. Feb 11 16:41:19 <NeverSummer> Because having software and content prepared is the exact same thing as showing up with your laptop.
  214. Feb 11 16:41:21 <c-pin> i get all my shit on youtube
  215. Feb 11 16:41:22 <Lumber> whoops I did a trigger
  216. Feb 11 16:41:27 <michaeldcullen> Nope Lumber
  217. Feb 11 16:41:30 <michaeldcullen> You just proved my point
  218. Feb 11 16:41:34 <c-pin> what
  219. Feb 11 16:41:34 <Tinus> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-3-Super-Micro-X8DTE-F-4U-NAS-Server-200TB-67x3TB-2-QC-Xeon-E5620-2-4GHz-/361896024820?&_trksid=p2056016.m2516.l5255&rmvSB=true
  220. Feb 11 16:41:36 <buildapcalien> Title: Lot of 3 Super Micro X8DTE-F 4U NAS Server 200TB 67x3TB (2) QC Xeon E5620 2.4GHz | eBay (at www.ebay.com)
  221. Feb 11 16:41:40 <Tinus> anyone want 200tb for $4000?
  222. Feb 11 16:41:41 <NeverSummer> c-pin‚ that's the same thing.
  223. Feb 11 16:41:42 <michaeldcullen> Playing it off YouTube or Soundcloud _IS_ illegal.
  224. Feb 11 16:41:43 <Lumber> I hope you don't believe that
  225. Feb 11 16:41:50 <c-pin> soundcloud gives royalties
  226. Feb 11 16:41:52 <DrDoofenshmirtz> pcnoobme> [11:29:46] <DrDoofenshmirtz> pcnoobmemobile> https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KJbkcf/corsair-memory-cmy32gx3m4c1866c10
  227. Feb 11 16:41:54 <buildapcalien> Title: Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (CMY32GX3M4C1866C10) - PCPartPicker (at pcpartpicker.com)
  228. Feb 11 16:41:56 <michaeldcullen> c-pin, no, they don't.
  229. Feb 11 16:41:57 <Tinus> $20/TB
  230. Feb 11 16:41:59 <zozzlesz> i didn't laugh
  231. Feb 11 16:42:00 <c-pin> unless you repost a pirated song
  232. Feb 11 16:42:06 <NeverSummer> c-pin‚ Youtube is a bad example as is Soundcloud.
  233. Feb 11 16:42:10 <michaeldcullen> And you're missing the point, you have to have a RETAIL copy of the song
  234. Feb 11 16:42:12 <c-pin> yeah youtube is mostly piracy
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  236. Feb 11 16:42:15 <c-pin> unless its on vevo
  237. Feb 11 16:42:22 <michaeldcullen> Which means if you play it from YouTube - even from VEVO - you're breaking the law.
  238. Feb 11 16:42:24 <NeverSummer> and Spotify specifies you can't use it that way.
  239. Feb 11 16:42:25 <c-pin> vevo also gives royalties or official band pages
  240. Feb 11 16:42:32 <michaeldcullen> c-pin, irrelevant
  241. Feb 11 16:42:36 <NeverSummer> He would be required to and should just purchase the song.
  242. Feb 11 16:42:38 <c-pin> oh yeah no professional streams
  243. Feb 11 16:42:38 <michaeldcullen> It's still illegal.
  244. Feb 11 16:42:39 <c-pin> or whatever
  245. Feb 11 16:42:40 <NeverSummer> For freaking $1.
  246. Feb 11 16:42:47 <NeverSummer> c-pin‚ you're derailing my argument.
  247. Feb 11 16:42:49 <NeverSummer> Stop that.
  248. Feb 11 16:42:49 <c-pin> dude but those dollars add up
  249. Feb 11 16:42:52 * desgen1 (~desgen@c-68-44-170-157.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined
  250. Feb 11 16:42:52 <michaeldcullen> See?
  251. Feb 11 16:43:08 <NeverSummer> c-pin‚ he said have to break a minor law.
  252. Feb 11 16:43:13 <NeverSummer> I'm saying that's crap.
  253. Feb 11 16:43:18 <c-pin> piracy is a felony
  254. Feb 11 16:43:22 <NeverSummer> He chose to break a minor law rather than spend $2.
  255. Feb 11 16:43:23 <c-pin> or it should be: :^)
  256. Feb 11 16:43:30 <michaeldcullen> Anyway, everyone's missing the point here
  257. Feb 11 16:43:33 <c-pin> but yeah tbh like tell everyone no requests fuck off
  258. Feb 11 16:43:40 <c-pin> i got no dough
  259. Feb 11 16:43:41 <NeverSummer> "where you have to break a minor law in order to avoid worse consequences for yourself or your loved ones"
  260. Feb 11 16:43:53 <NeverSummer> Like my god-damn house is getting broken into and I'm saying it's wrong to shoot the trespasser.
  261. Feb 11 16:43:55 <michaeldcullen> The original point was, there are situations where I need some shitty, phoned-in artist's "work", but don't WANT it myself.
  262. Feb 11 16:44:00 <NeverSummer> Meanwhile this is an argument over $2.
  263. Feb 11 16:44:01 <c-pin> NeverSummer, is that illegal where you are?
  264. Feb 11 16:44:04 <michaeldcullen> And yeah, I'm going to pirate that shit.
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  266. Feb 11 16:44:05 <NeverSummer> Not your right to self defense.
  267. Feb 11 16:44:06 <NeverSummer> c-pin‚ no.
  268. Feb 11 16:44:11 <c-pin> oh cool
  269. Feb 11 16:44:20 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ that's not right is what I'm saying.
  270. Feb 11 16:44:27 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, and you're entitled to that opinion
  271. Feb 11 16:44:27 <NeverSummer> You don't get to judge what is and is not worth paying for.
  272. Feb 11 16:44:30 <c-pin> a guy broke in when my mom was here and i was like you know we have a shotgun in the shed right
  273. Feb 11 16:44:31 <NeverSummer> The creator does.
  274. Feb 11 16:44:33 <michaeldcullen> But I disagree.
  275. Feb 11 16:44:34 <NeverSummer> This isn't opinion.
  276. Feb 11 16:44:35 <NeverSummer> It's low.
  277. Feb 11 16:44:36 <NeverSummer> law.
  278. Feb 11 16:44:39 * desgen (~desgen@unaffiliated/desgen) has joined
  279. Feb 11 16:44:42 <NeverSummer> You don't get to disagree here.
  280. Feb 11 16:44:49 <c-pin> law is actually a gray area
  281. Feb 11 16:44:51 <michaeldcullen> It's also against the law to sell a product which isnt fit for purpose
  282. Feb 11 16:44:53 <NeverSummer> You are wrong in every country, state, and court that matters.
  283. Feb 11 16:44:59 <michaeldcullen> And if their work is shit, it's not fit for purpose.
  284. Feb 11 16:45:06 <c-pin> but like cant take the law black and white
  285. Feb 11 16:45:10 <c-pin> thats what lawyers are for
  286. Feb 11 16:45:15 <Lumber> lol
  287. Feb 11 16:45:18 <michaeldcullen> Indeed, everything is open to interpretation, especially when laws overlap
  288. Feb 11 16:45:18 <NeverSummer> Artistic work can't be treated that way which you know.
  289. Feb 11 16:45:23 <Lumber> and who's the grand leader on shit determining
  290. Feb 11 16:45:24 <michaeldcullen> Of course it can NeverSummer
  291. Feb 11 16:45:33 <NeverSummer> Artistic work has no defined purpose.
  292. Feb 11 16:45:33 <michaeldcullen> Someone got taken to court for selling a 37-minute album of complete silence
  293. Feb 11 16:45:39 <c-pin> but yeah youre a professional dj or whatever you cant just play mp3s from a fuckin site
  294. Feb 11 16:45:47 <michaeldcullen> c-pin, indeed
  295. Feb 11 16:45:52 <c-pin> gotta assert your dominance
  296. Feb 11 16:45:57 <c-pin> no thats illegal fuck off
  297. Feb 11 16:46:01 <c-pin> no requests
  298. Feb 11 16:46:08 <michaeldcullen> That's what I do, I never take requests lol
  299. Feb 11 16:46:11 <NeverSummer> c-pin‚ seriously I'm trying to make a point stop derailing.
  300. Feb 11 16:46:14 <c-pin> sorry
  301. Feb 11 16:46:18 <NeverSummer> Lumber‚ is helping.
  302. Feb 11 16:46:20 <michaeldcullen> No, he's running NeverSummer
  303. Feb 11 16:46:21 <michaeldcullen> *right
  304. Feb 11 16:46:26 <NeverSummer> You do not get to be the final arbitrator.
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  306. Feb 11 16:46:29 <NeverSummer> Of quality and worth.
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  308. Feb 11 16:46:32 <DrDoofenshmirtz> thats me
  309. Feb 11 16:46:32 <NeverSummer> You are the consumer.
  310. Feb 11 16:46:37 <michaeldcullen> Actually as a DJ, that _IS_ my job
  311. Feb 11 16:46:38 <NeverSummer> You are required to pay what the artist asks.
  312. Feb 11 16:46:42 <michaeldcullen> To decide what's worth playing and what isn't.
  313. Feb 11 16:46:45 <DrDoofenshmirtz> No you're not
  314. Feb 11 16:46:47 <c-pin> wait NeverSummer thats basically capitalism you just opposed
  315. Feb 11 16:46:47 <DrDoofenshmirtz> you can just
  316. Feb 11 16:46:48 <DrDoofenshmirtz> not pay
  317. Feb 11 16:46:49 <NeverSummer> And your own poor decisions do not determine the worth of other people's work.
  318. Feb 11 16:46:50 <c-pin> youre a dirty commy
  319. Feb 11 16:46:56 * DrDoofenshmirtz is now known as FinalArbitrator
  320. Feb 11 16:47:05 <c-pin> the consumer is the one that decides the worth of a product thats like the whole point
  321. Feb 11 16:47:08 <NeverSummer> lol
  322. Feb 11 16:47:15 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, if people disagree with whether or not my assessment of somethings' worth is correct
  323. Feb 11 16:47:18 <FinalArbitrator> Whatever NeverSummer says is wrong
  324. Feb 11 16:47:18 <michaeldcullen> They are free to take me to court
  325. Feb 11 16:47:27 <NeverSummer> c-pin‚ right. But if the worth of the content is less than the asking price you don't get to own the thing.
  326. Feb 11 16:47:33 <NeverSummer> That's how capitalism works.
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  328. Feb 11 16:47:47 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ you know that won't happen.
  329. Feb 11 16:47:48 <c-pin> yes if you decide to say fuck the majority and pay less then youre still pirating
  330. Feb 11 16:47:54 <NeverSummer> You're commiting a crime with no enforcement.
  331. Feb 11 16:47:55 <c-pin> or... 0
  332. Feb 11 16:48:00 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, then anyone complaining about my piracy should shut the fuck up basically :P
  333. Feb 11 16:48:01 <NeverSummer> This is a philosophical discussion about that.
  334. Feb 11 16:48:10 <NeverSummer> You know that logic is broken.
  335. Feb 11 16:48:12 <c-pin> #america
  336. Feb 11 16:48:15 <michaeldcullen> Unless they're willing to put their time and money where their mouth is and take me to court
  337. Feb 11 16:48:20 <NeverSummer> "It's only stealing if you get caught."
  338. Feb 11 16:48:26 <CustardFilled> NeverSummer, how about we just kick everyone?
  339. Feb 11 16:48:26 <NeverSummer> That's not the point of this discussion.
  340. Feb 11 16:48:31 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, oh I've been arrested for piracy before
  341. Feb 11 16:48:38 <michaeldcullen> Being caught isn't the question
  342. Feb 11 16:48:43 <NeverSummer> Cool but again I don't really care about that.
  343. Feb 11 16:48:43 <michaeldcullen> It's being convicted.
  344. Feb 11 16:48:47 <NeverSummer> I'm talking about the idea.
  345. Feb 11 16:48:54 <c-pin> i mean playing illegal music for a crowd at a professional event youre pretty fucked
  346. Feb 11 16:48:57 <michaeldcullen> And again, the idea is only as valid as the legal enforcement
  347. Feb 11 16:48:59 <FinalArbitrator> CustardFilled> Kick yourself
  348. Feb 11 16:49:07 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ not the point.
  349. Feb 11 16:49:09 <FinalArbitrator> and NeverSummer whilst you're at it :)
  350. Feb 11 16:49:09 <NeverSummer> For the third time.
  351. Feb 11 16:49:10 <c-pin> like i can se it if its personal use but i mean giving it out to 500 people
  352. Feb 11 16:49:14 <c-pin> or whatever
  353. Feb 11 16:49:14 <ultimation> being arrested sounds horrible, i dont ever want that
  354. Feb 11 16:49:16 <NeverSummer> I want to discuss the concept.
  355. Feb 11 16:49:23 <NeverSummer> Not the practical effects.
  356. Feb 11 16:49:29 <c-pin> like that baiscally makes you a piracy ring
  357. Feb 11 16:49:33 <c-pin> selling music as your own
  358. Feb 11 16:49:35 <CustardFilled> FinalArbitrator, wait I know that tone
  359. Feb 11 16:49:36 <NeverSummer> I don't care if you get caught or not nor if you lose in court.
  360. Feb 11 16:49:40 <CustardFilled> you're DrDoofenshizzle
  361. Feb 11 16:49:41 <NeverSummer> All of that is beside the point
  362. Feb 11 16:49:44 * FinalArbitrator is now known as DRDOOFENSHIZZLE
  363. Feb 11 16:49:47 <DRDOOFENSHIZZLE> you got me
  364. Feb 11 16:49:51 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, the two are intrinsically linked
  365. Feb 11 16:50:00 <NeverSummer> Not really.
  366. Feb 11 16:50:04 <michaeldcullen> Unless you're talking about the morality of it
  367. Feb 11 16:50:20 <NeverSummer> The conceptual idea of intellectual property theft doesn't really require laws or enforcement.
  368. Feb 11 16:50:21 <michaeldcullen> And that's really down to your viewpoint, which is subjective
  369. Feb 11 16:50:25 <NeverSummer> We can just talk about the concept.
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  371. Feb 11 16:50:40 <LikeABox> https://i.imgur.com/StONKLK.jpg
  372. Feb 11 16:50:42 <NeverSummer> I don't think the idea that stealing is wrong is all that subjective.
  373. Feb 11 16:50:49 <NeverSummer> I mean yeah you can be a sociopath.
  374. Feb 11 16:50:52 <c-pin> lol my friend is in film in college he wants me to download a bunch of movies and im like dude youre in film
  375. Feb 11 16:50:57 <c-pin> if youre not careful ima steal all your shit
  376. Feb 11 16:51:04 <NeverSummer> But in general that's a pretty safe jumping off point for most conversations on modern moral values.
  377. Feb 11 16:51:09 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, would you still think that stealing was wrong if someone was copying the formula for a life-saving drug and selling it for a fraction of the cost of the original?
  378. Feb 11 16:51:14 <michaeldcullen> Ie, "generics".
  379. Feb 11 16:51:41 <NeverSummer> Yes..?
  380. Feb 11 16:51:42 <c-pin> im trying to think of a paedophilia metaphor
  381. Feb 11 16:51:43 <DoctorDick> Yes, because you're stealing someone's work
  382. Feb 11 16:51:46 <Ryzen> michaeldcullen, you arent in a position to argue about medicine, the TPP you love so much would make generic medicine impossible, :P
  383. Feb 11 16:51:53 <c-pin> but i cant cause im high on goo be gone
  384. Feb 11 16:51:55 <NeverSummer> Generally drug development requires huge R&D budgets and years of work.
  385. Feb 11 16:51:59 <DRDOOFENSHIZZLE> DoctorDick> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeTybKL1pM4
  386. Feb 11 16:52:01 <buildapcalien> Title: Copying Is Not Theft - Official Version - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
  387. Feb 11 16:52:01 <michaeldcullen> Ryzen, but according to NeverSummer, generic medicine is morally wrong
  388. Feb 11 16:52:05 <NeverSummer> I want to live in a world where that investment is rewarded.
  389. Feb 11 16:52:10 * DRDOOFENSHIZZLE is now known as DrDoofenshmirtz
  390. Feb 11 16:52:10 <c-pin> dont copy that floppy
  391. Feb 11 16:52:12 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ we put a cap on medication patents.
  392. Feb 11 16:52:15 <NeverSummer> Which you're aware of.
  393. Feb 11 16:52:30 <c-pin> dude did this just turn into big pharma
  394. Feb 11 16:52:35 <c-pin> you guys might wanna stop there
  395. Feb 11 16:52:37 <NeverSummer> We do that because as stated drug development is incredibly money and time intensive.
  396. Feb 11 16:52:41 <Ryzen> NeverSummer, he's in favor of the tpp which removes that cap in favor of using copyright law with no end date :P
  397. Feb 11 16:52:48 <NeverSummer> And without the ability to profit from that work drug companies would not do it.
  398. Feb 11 16:52:49 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, so Martin Shkreli is a good guy?
  399. Feb 11 16:52:49 <Ryzen> NeverSummer, we had arguments about the TPP the other week
  400. Feb 11 16:53:11 <c-pin> the thing is a new drug is released, the company puts a block on it and then after youvve run out of cash on it cause you need it, it goes generic
  401. Feb 11 16:53:14 <NeverSummer> I know essentially zero about Martin Shkreli.
  402. Feb 11 16:53:18 <NeverSummer> I have heard the name before.
  403. Feb 11 16:53:19 <michaeldcullen> And raising the prices of Daraprim is just like, good business right bro
  404. Feb 11 16:53:35 <c-pin> tbh i think healthcare is fucked
  405. Feb 11 16:53:38 <NeverSummer> I really don't know enough about this to participate in the debate.
  406. Feb 11 16:53:40 <c-pin> theyre profiting on human needs
  407. Feb 11 16:53:43 <DoctorDick> They own it, they can do whatever they want
  408. Feb 11 16:53:44 <michaeldcullen> He raised the price of a life-saving drug from $13.50 to $750
  409. Feb 11 16:53:47 <c-pin> like paid restrooms
  410. Feb 11 16:53:51 <NeverSummer> I would say that conceptually short term drug patents make sense to me.
  411. Feb 11 16:54:00 <NeverSummer> Because they incentivize research.
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  413. Feb 11 16:54:07 <c-pin> like if i wanted to id just make you pay for air
  414. Feb 11 16:54:08 <NeverSummer> But that of course long term generics should be allowed.
  415. Feb 11 16:54:10 <c-pin> see how you like it
  416. Feb 11 16:54:11 <NeverSummer> And encouraged.
  417. Feb 11 16:54:24 <c-pin> i kind of put it on the same level as a usenet too
  418. Feb 11 16:54:28 <c-pin> like restricting information
  419. Feb 11 16:54:31 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, but that's eventually stealing
  420. Feb 11 16:54:35 <NeverSummer> Obviously the practical inplementation of that is an incredibly messy lobbying nightmare.
  421. Feb 11 16:54:36 <michaeldcullen> So you're saying
  422. Feb 11 16:54:45 <michaeldcullen> It's okay for me to steal a song if it's been out for a while?
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  424. Feb 11 16:54:54 <c-pin> actually yes
  425. Feb 11 16:54:55 <michaeldcullen> How long? 6 months? A year? 5 years? 20 years?
  426. Feb 11 16:54:58 <c-pin> because then its public domain
  427. Feb 11 16:55:00 <c-pin> you waffle
  428. Feb 11 16:55:00 <NeverSummer> I'm saying that medication is a patented thing.
  429. Feb 11 16:55:01 <LikeABox> It's okay to steal a song if it's new as well.
  430. Feb 11 16:55:05 <NeverSummer> And that songs are copyrighted.
  431. Feb 11 16:55:07 <LikeABox> Because I have no morals.
  432. Feb 11 16:55:12 <NeverSummer> Which are different forms of ownership.
  433. Feb 11 16:55:22 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, actually no, drugs can be copyrighted as well
  434. Feb 11 16:55:24 <NeverSummer> Both have expiration dates and terms.
  435. Feb 11 16:55:29 <Wec> I mean remixes are practically stolen songs
  436. Feb 11 16:55:39 <michaeldcullen> That's a point, what about Remixes NeverSummer?
  437. Feb 11 16:55:41 <NeverSummer> And yes songs should expire.
  438. Feb 11 16:55:48 <michaeldcullen> Are remixes morally wrong?
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  440. Feb 11 16:55:51 <c-pin> some remixes are basically the song with a different ebat or some dips added to it or something
  441. Feb 11 16:55:57 <c-pin> but a lot of em are entirely different songs
  442. Feb 11 16:56:00 <NeverSummer> Eventually the original artist has recouped a reasonable value for their work.
  443. Feb 11 16:56:02 <LikeABox> Don't they just mildly change the formula and re-patent?
  444. Feb 11 16:56:04 <c-pin> and im like wait a second this is just something else
  445. Feb 11 16:56:04 <NeverSummer> And it becomes public domain.
  446. Feb 11 16:56:09 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, who determines reasoable value?
  447. Feb 11 16:56:14 <NeverSummer> There is plenty of public domain music freely available today.
  448. Feb 11 16:56:14 <c-pin> the law
  449. Feb 11 16:56:19 <NeverSummer> I mean right now?
  450. Feb 11 16:56:20 <NeverSummer> Disney.
  451. Feb 11 16:56:21 <m13b> copyright law I suppose
  452. Feb 11 16:56:22 <NeverSummer> Pretty much.
  453. Feb 11 16:56:25 <michaeldcullen> lol
  454. Feb 11 16:56:29 <NeverSummer> They determine how long copyright lasts.
  455. Feb 11 16:56:29 <c-pin> lol
  456. Feb 11 16:56:37 <c-pin> disney does?
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  458. Feb 11 16:56:39 <c-pin> thats fucked
  459. Feb 11 16:56:39 <NeverSummer> Obviously that's broken too.
  460. Feb 11 16:56:45 <NeverSummer> But the conceptual idea is sound.
  461. Feb 11 16:56:51 <c-pin> i need public domain movies
  462. Feb 11 16:57:05 <NeverSummer> A period of ownership to recoup production time and costs which ends with public domain release.
  463. Feb 11 16:57:15 <michaeldcullen> So you think 70+ years is fair for music?
  464. Feb 11 16:57:17 <c-pin> https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=public+domain+movies#hl=en&q=The+Boy+in+the+Plastic+Bubble&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAGWQu07DMBhG8QBq3Q4lhSVThRgYkHJp6rSsCCEkKiTowNokdnDqS0rckOQxujGz8iL0ARgZ2HgDRiByurAdf__n40tr96htcctG6ThcuAfpKmA0HESSz6kYcJlTnG1A66-RZIXYgLo8GS-rB82BQ-wnzU4iXFuzv_DGruZavgGwzlFesUAPvGGleFOKxWSkOfYzv5HGLk-S5mCUc1_zMHCKUksDxARpbhTHBWtKiC8TpDkqkZ3qDV7iCFLoAUEiZ401jJBqnpAST32CF9DpfX1_9M1nsH59ewdrAHvXUmaYlbeYzRWOZtI4hnsXQlFVGibsmv
  465. Feb 11 16:57:17 <c-pin> WHjTJeneyYEG5Xxj3s3GE1k1MZUVIaV8YlbE8xD_BjdkOMMwjPJWM4VFQK4xQemvtWuA0sQhnPfoV9-D_u_gBraAaSyAEAAA
  466. Feb 11 16:57:18 <buildapcalien> Title: public domain movies - Google Search (at encrypted.google.com)
  467. Feb 11 16:57:18 <c-pin> oh lit
  468. Feb 11 16:57:26 <NeverSummer> I think 70 years is a bit long personally.
  469. Feb 11 16:57:26 <c-pin> JAN TRAVOLTA
  470. Feb 11 16:57:30 <michaeldcullen> I had a bunch of requests the other day for some music written in 1910
  471. Feb 11 16:57:34 <michaeldcullen> (not).
  472. Feb 11 16:57:54 <michaeldcullen> ANYWAY, we're getting off the point here
  473. Feb 11 16:57:54 <NeverSummer> I think that basically any amount of time where the music is still being asked for in clubs is too short.
  474. Feb 11 16:57:55 <c-pin> now guys you waffles
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  476. Feb 11 16:57:56 <c-pin> hey guys
  477. Feb 11 16:58:17 <c-pin> so like fuckin people sell copies of fuckin OMG 230K LEAGUES UNDER THESEA IS PD
  478. Feb 11 16:58:24 <LikeABox> You all just lost The Game.
  479. Feb 11 16:58:25 <Ryzen> NeverSummer, i'm in favor of copyright expiring the day the creator dies
  480. Feb 11 16:58:26 <c-pin> anyways like people sell copies of public domain music and movies
  481. Feb 11 16:58:30 <c-pin> is that fucked
  482. Feb 11 16:58:36 <c-pin> LikeABox, after highschool i just stoped caring
  483. Feb 11 16:58:39 <c-pin> it really helps
  484. Feb 11 16:58:42 <NeverSummer> Ryzen‚ I'm pretty okay with that. Anything else seems arbitrary and hard to pin down.
  485. Feb 11 16:58:43 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, the artists still get compensated every time I play a copy of their track due to PRS, regardless of whether or not I buy their music myself
  486. Feb 11 16:58:52 <michaeldcullen> So if I didn't pirate their shit, they'd get 0.
  487. Feb 11 16:58:55 <c-pin> anyways like people sell copies of public domain music on cd ddv bluray movies
  488. Feb 11 16:59:01 <Ryzen> NeverSummer, for corporations it should be 75 years, no extensions, no exceptions
  489. Feb 11 16:59:02 <c-pin> is that right
  490. Feb 11 16:59:08 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ you just said you're pirating at user request.
  491. Feb 11 16:59:09 <Ryzen> for individual copyright holders, you die it's over
  492. Feb 11 16:59:19 <NeverSummer> If you pay at user request instead they get the same compensation + $1.
  493. Feb 11 16:59:23 <c-pin> should everyone be allaowed to own a cd production plant in their house
  494. Feb 11 16:59:31 <c-pin> and just burn cds
  495. Feb 11 16:59:38 <NeverSummer> Ryzen‚ I'm pretty alright with that as well.
  496. Feb 11 16:59:43 <c-pin> actually yeah its ok cause its a hpysical copy
  497. Feb 11 16:59:44 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, yeah, but I don't think they deserve my money, so fuck them.
  498. Feb 11 16:59:44 <c-pin> so idk
  499. Feb 11 16:59:49 <c-pin> anyways i know what im doing tonight
  500. Feb 11 16:59:50 <NeverSummer> One relatively long adult lifetime ish.
  501. Feb 11 16:59:56 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ right.
  502. Feb 11 16:59:58 <michaeldcullen> And honestly, I don't REALLY care if anyone agrees with me or not on this :P
  503. Feb 11 17:00:06 <c-pin> https://archive.org/details/20000LeaguesUndertheSea
  504. Feb 11 17:00:08 <NeverSummer> And that's the same attitude people use to justify stealin from Walmart.
  505. Feb 11 17:00:09 <buildapcalien> Title: 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea : Carl Laemmle, Stuart Paton : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive (at archive.org)
  506. Feb 11 17:00:10 <c-pin> NeverSummer, watch it with me?
  507. Feb 11 17:00:10 <michaeldcullen> As I said, they're quite welcome to take me to court for it
  508. Feb 11 17:00:16 <NeverSummer> "They have plenty of money who cares if I steal these clothes."
  509. Feb 11 17:00:18 <Ryzen> NeverSummer, assuming you were 18 when you created something, that's a ~93 year old lifespan
  510. Feb 11 17:00:19 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, not reallly
  511. Feb 11 17:00:27 <Ryzen> that's being generous to the corporations even
  512. Feb 11 17:00:28 <c-pin> thisn is my favorite disney movieu lol
  513. Feb 11 17:00:30 <Ryzen> as far as im concerned
  514. Feb 11 17:00:30 <c-pin> 1916 XD
  515. Feb 11 17:00:36 <NeverSummer> Ryzen‚ yeah that was my thought.
  516. Feb 11 17:00:38 <michaeldcullen> If you steal from Walmart, you're taking a physical object, and denying them 1 sale in the future
  517. Feb 11 17:00:38 <PhantomTaco> are you guys really arguing over this bullshit
  518. Feb 11 17:00:44 <PhantomTaco> jesus the channel must be slow today
  519. Feb 11 17:00:52 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ if you steal music you are denying the artist of one sale right now.
  520. Feb 11 17:00:56 <NeverSummer> To the tune of $1-2.
  521. Feb 11 17:00:58 <michaeldcullen> And yet you're not
  522. Feb 11 17:01:04 <Ryzen> PhantomTaco, hey i walked into this nonsense too, must mean michaeldcullen is here, we only argue about stupid shit when hes here
  523. Feb 11 17:01:05 <michaeldcullen> Because there is no way, shape, or form I would ever buy that song.
  524. Feb 11 17:01:05 <NeverSummer> You obviously are.
  525. Feb 11 17:01:08 <c-pin> torrenting it from the archive,org thing <333
  526. Feb 11 17:01:14 <NeverSummer> In your scenario you are being threatened to buy it.
  527. Feb 11 17:01:20 <c-pin> oh my god this is slow
  528. Feb 11 17:01:22 <NeverSummer> So assuming you must aquire the song in some way.
  529. Feb 11 17:01:27 <NeverSummer> You are either going to pay or not.
  530. Feb 11 17:01:32 <c-pin> you know what threatening to buy something is?
  531. Feb 11 17:01:33 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, and I would never pay.
  532. Feb 11 17:01:35 <NeverSummer> Meaning by not paying you are denying them one sale.
  533. Feb 11 17:01:35 <c-pin> communism
  534. Feb 11 17:01:45 <michaeldcullen> No, because I would NEVER pay.
  535. Feb 11 17:01:48 <NeverSummer> So if piracy became impossible you'd go the smashed laptop route?
  536. Feb 11 17:01:49 <c-pin> or theres probably a better thing
  537. Feb 11 17:01:52 <michaeldcullen> It's not, "I'd pay if I had the money" or whatever
  538. Feb 11 17:01:54 <Ryzen> michaeldcullen, if you aren't willing to pay the price someone is asking for something, you have no right to use/view/listen to it either
  539. Feb 11 17:01:55 <michaeldcullen> It's, "I'm not paying. End of."
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  541. Feb 11 17:01:58 <NeverSummer> So if piracy became impossible you'd go the smashed laptop route?
  542. Feb 11 17:01:59 <Ryzen> pay the requested price or move on
  543. Feb 11 17:02:03 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, sure.
  544. Feb 11 17:02:04 <Ryzen> either way, don't be a fuckwad about it
  545. Feb 11 17:02:07 <NeverSummer> And that's insane.
  546. Feb 11 17:02:12 <michaeldcullen> If you say so
  547. Feb 11 17:02:14 <c-pin> ow fuck i have goo be gone in my nose
  548. Feb 11 17:02:16 <NeverSummer> That is extremely illogical.
  549. Feb 11 17:02:31 <NeverSummer> You'd lose a $1,200 laptop over paying $1 for a song from an artist you don't like.
  550. Feb 11 17:02:32 <c-pin> if you cant afford music maybe djing isnt the right path for you
  551. Feb 11 17:02:34 <michaeldcullen> If you can't see how piracy does not equate to a lost sale
  552. Feb 11 17:02:37 <michaeldcullen> Then that's just mad
  553. Feb 11 17:02:44 <c-pin> if i cant drive to work do i have the right to work there?
  554. Feb 11 17:02:45 <NeverSummer> It doesn't normally.
  555. Feb 11 17:02:51 <NeverSummer> But in your use case it so obviously does.
  556. Feb 11 17:02:58 <michaeldcullen> Dishonored 2 hasn't been cracked yet
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  558. Feb 11 17:03:02 <c-pin> like i love that you gave me this job, but i cant ride the bus so you have to pay me anyways
  559. Feb 11 17:03:03 <NeverSummer> Because of the way you structured your example piracy directly results in one lost sale.
  560. Feb 11 17:03:05 <Ryzen> michaeldcullen, i dont care if piracy = a lost sale or not
  561. Feb 11 17:03:06 <michaeldcullen> So you know what? I just haven't played it.
  562. Feb 11 17:03:17 <Ryzen> if you havent purchased the product at the price asked for that product, you've no business using that product
  563. Feb 11 17:03:20 <Ryzen> period
  564. Feb 11 17:03:21 <c-pin> lol dude pay for games man
  565. Feb 11 17:03:23 <NeverSummer> ^
  566. Feb 11 17:03:31 <c-pin> was that me or Ryzen
  567. Feb 11 17:03:32 <michaeldcullen> c-pin, I pay for good games :P
  568. Feb 11 17:03:37 <michaeldcullen> Not buggy console ports
  569. Feb 11 17:03:39 <c-pin> i pay for all games unless theyre free
  570. Feb 11 17:03:41 <NeverSummer> You are saying you'd rather lose your laptop than pay for a song you don't like.3
  571. Feb 11 17:03:47 <NeverSummer> That's both a lie and ridiculous.
  572. Feb 11 17:03:48 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, hyperbole
  573. Feb 11 17:03:53 <Lumber> fun fact NeverSummer
  574. Feb 11 17:03:58 <NeverSummer> So in your example it is exactly one lost sale.
  575. Feb 11 17:03:59 <Lumber> a game can't be good if it's ported
  576. Feb 11 17:04:00 <michaeldcullen> I've never been faced with the choice of losing my laptop or buying a song
  577. Feb 11 17:04:01 <c-pin> i wouldnt mind losing my shitty laptop over being forced to buy something
  578. Feb 11 17:04:06 <Lumber> even if it runs better on PC than on it's original console
  579. Feb 11 17:04:08 <c-pin> like fuck if if you wanna smash my laptop then parties over dick
  580. Feb 11 17:04:13 <c-pin> im out
  581. Feb 11 17:04:21 <NeverSummer> You created a scenario in which you pirate to avoid that choice.
  582. Feb 11 17:04:22 <michaeldcullen> I've been faced with the choice of losing my laptop, getting into a fight, or stealing a song
  583. Feb 11 17:04:25 <c-pin> here theres an aux here, just plug in your phone
  584. Feb 11 17:04:28 <michaeldcullen> I've always chosen the latter two
  585. Feb 11 17:04:33 <DoctorDick> michaeldcullen, You just need to grow some balls
  586. Feb 11 17:04:35 <NeverSummer> And yet are saying that that isn't denying a sale.
  587. Feb 11 17:04:36 <NeverSummer> But it is.
  588. Feb 11 17:04:37 <c-pin> same
  589. Feb 11 17:04:42 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, it's not
  590. Feb 11 17:04:43 <Ryzen> michaeldcullen, you are never faced with choosing between committing a crime and destroying your own shit
  591. Feb 11 17:04:45 <NeverSummer> Because you are literally choosing not purchasing the song via piracy.
  592. Feb 11 17:04:47 <michaeldcullen> Because buying it was NEVER on the cards.
  593. Feb 11 17:04:48 <Ryzen> that's a completely bonkers comparison
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  595. Feb 11 17:04:49 <c-pin> NeverSummer, hes a pirate man you cant argue that withpirates lol
  596. Feb 11 17:04:52 <NeverSummer> The only other option is purchasing the song.
  597. Feb 11 17:04:56 <Lumber> michaeldcullen you forgot option 4: buying the song ;)
  598. Feb 11 17:04:59 <NeverSummer> Because you would never use your laptop.
  599. Feb 11 17:05:00 <michaeldcullen> Ryzen, it was just the nature of the example I gave NeverSummer
  600. Feb 11 17:05:04 <c-pin> like i used to be a pirate when i was 12
  601. Feb 11 17:05:08 <c-pin> then i discovered how to make money
  602. Feb 11 17:05:11 <NeverSummer> The example you gave proves that I'm correct.
  603. Feb 11 17:05:13 <michaeldcullen> Lumber, but that's not an option, because that would mean giving my own money to Justin Bieber
  604. Feb 11 17:05:16 <NeverSummer> You are actively denying them one sale.
  605. Feb 11 17:05:18 <Ryzen> michaeldcullen, pay the 99 cents for the song, or don't have access to the song
  606. Feb 11 17:05:19 <michaeldcullen> And that's not happening.
  607. Feb 11 17:05:19 <michaeldcullen> Ever.
  608. Feb 11 17:05:21 <Ryzen> there's no other valid choice here
  609. Feb 11 17:05:28 <c-pin> oh dude you know what you can do
  610. Feb 11 17:05:28 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ that's a lie.
  611. Feb 11 17:05:29 <Lumber> lol
  612. Feb 11 17:05:30 <Ryzen> whatever bullshit you are spouting isn't particularly relevant
  613. Feb 11 17:05:32 <c-pin> get fl studio and make your own music
  614. Feb 11 17:05:32 <NeverSummer> In this scenario you would buy the song.
  615. Feb 11 17:05:40 <Lumber> I'd rather spend a day w/ justin than some other people
  616. Feb 11 17:05:43 <NeverSummer> You are lying to avoid a logical dead end.
  617. Feb 11 17:05:47 <c-pin> justin bieber?
  618. Feb 11 17:05:48 <michaeldcullen> Lumber, wat
  619. Feb 11 17:05:55 <Lumber> The hate he gets, I've found, is unwarranted and a bit of a circlejerk
  620. Feb 11 17:06:00 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, you're missing the point
  621. Feb 11 17:06:02 <c-pin> http://biebian.sourceforge.net/
  622. Feb 11 17:06:04 <buildapcalien> Title: Justin Bieber Linux (at biebian.sourceforge.net)
  623. Feb 11 17:06:09 <NeverSummer> I'm trying to make my own point.
  624. Feb 11 17:06:09 <Ryzen> c-pin, holy shit
  625. Feb 11 17:06:12 <c-pin> what
  626. Feb 11 17:06:16 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, which is flawed
  627. Feb 11 17:06:17 <NeverSummer> Which is that if you couldn't pirate you'd purchase.
  628. Feb 11 17:06:20 <Ryzen> c-pin, that's funny
  629. Feb 11 17:06:22 <c-pin> ikr lol
  630. Feb 11 17:06:25 <NeverSummer> Because the other two options are insane.
  631. Feb 11 17:06:31 <c-pin> http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/
  632. Feb 11 17:06:31 <NeverSummer> And that fact is the definition of a denied sale.
  633. Feb 11 17:06:32 <buildapcalien> Title: Home (at hannahmontana.sourceforge.net)
  634. Feb 11 17:06:35 <c-pin> if you liked that youll like thin
  635. Feb 11 17:06:37 <c-pin> this*
  636. Feb 11 17:06:45 <michaeldcullen> You're completely ignoring the fact that some people would rather do ANYTHING than support something they hate.
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  638. Feb 11 17:06:50 <Ryzen> LOL
  639. Feb 11 17:06:51 <NeverSummer> I'm not.
  640. Feb 11 17:07:02 <michaeldcullen> Which is funny, because it sounds to me like you're saying you'd rather do anything than steal a $1 song.
  641. Feb 11 17:07:08 <NeverSummer> I'm saying that you destroying your laptop over buying a $2 song you don't like is not something you would do.
  642. Feb 11 17:07:14 <c-pin> technically nobody cares what you like
  643. Feb 11 17:07:16 <Ryzen> michaeldcullen, if you refuse to pay money for a song someone requests, don't be a fucking DJ
  644. Feb 11 17:07:17 <michaeldcullen> Like, if I said to you, "pirate a song or I'll break your legs"
  645. Feb 11 17:07:19 <c-pin> youre there to play what other people like
  646. Feb 11 17:07:20 <NeverSummer> And to say otherwise is a blatant lie.
  647. Feb 11 17:07:22 <Lumber> Purpose is one of the top 10 albums of 2016
  648. Feb 11 17:07:23 <Lumber> DO NOT @ ME
  649. Feb 11 17:07:24 <michaeldcullen> You'd give me your legs?
  650. Feb 11 17:07:24 <Lumber> 2015*
  651. Feb 11 17:07:25 <Lumber> DO NOT @ ME
  652. Feb 11 17:07:27 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ I'd pirate the song.
  653. Feb 11 17:07:31 <Lumber> ^
  654. Feb 11 17:07:35 <michaeldcullen> Then why do you find this so confusing?
  655. Feb 11 17:07:37 <Lumber> that's not what happened to you though
  656. Feb 11 17:07:38 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ if I said to you buy this song you hate or I'll break your legs you'd buy the song.
  657. Feb 11 17:07:42 <Lumber> ^
  658. Feb 11 17:07:43 <Lumber> lol
  659. Feb 11 17:07:50 <Lumber> hurr durr no money to jbiebs XD
  660. Feb 11 17:07:52 <Ryzen> michaeldcullen, because nobody at a venue is going to fucking kill you for not buying justin bieber's song they want to hear
  661. Feb 11 17:07:54 <c-pin> they didnt explicitly tell you to pirate
  662. Feb 11 17:07:58 <Ryzen> michaeldcullen, you aren't being forced to steal
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  664. Feb 11 17:08:04 <Ryzen> you are choosing to steal because you are a cheapass
  665. Feb 11 17:08:09 <c-pin> and telling someone tell you to pirate a song is illegal
  666. Feb 11 17:08:12 <Lumber> NAMECALLING IS BAD
  667. Feb 11 17:08:12 <c-pin> cause thats called entrapment
  668. Feb 11 17:08:13 <NeverSummer> Ryzen‚ in this scenario we're assuming that his laptop will be smashed if he doesn't play the song.
  669. Feb 11 17:08:18 <c-pin> so you can tell them youre calling the cops
  670. Feb 11 17:08:19 <michaeldcullen> No, I'm choosing to steal because the alternative is less offensive.
  671. Feb 11 17:08:20 <Ryzen> NeverSummer, on what fucking planet?
  672. Feb 11 17:08:21 <c-pin> or get security
  673. Feb 11 17:08:25 <NeverSummer> And I'm saying that if we prohibit piracy in that sceanio michaeldcullen would buy the song.
  674. Feb 11 17:08:33 <Ryzen> at worst the 12 year old that REALLY wanted to hear my world again would just call him a douchebag and leave
  675. Feb 11 17:08:34 <NeverSummer> Ryzen‚ apparently he DJs some sketchy-af clubs.
  676. Feb 11 17:08:36 <Ryzen> not smash his shit
  677. Feb 11 17:08:41 <Lumber> I love the visual of a giant dude telling someone to play justin bieber or they will smash the laptop
  678. Feb 11 17:08:45 <michaeldcullen> Lmfao
  679. Feb 11 17:08:47 <c-pin> yeah
  680. Feb 11 17:08:55 <c-pin> ikr lol
  681. Feb 11 17:08:55 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ but in a world where you could not steal.
  682. Feb 11 17:08:55 <michaeldcullen> Look, it was just an example
  683. Feb 11 17:08:57 <NeverSummer> You would buy.
  684. Feb 11 17:08:57 <michaeldcullen> My point is
  685. Feb 11 17:09:01 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, maybe, who knows
  686. Feb 11 17:09:01 <NeverSummer> And that is a denied sale.
  687. Feb 11 17:09:03 <michaeldcullen> That's never happene.
  688. Feb 11 17:09:04 <NeverSummer> By definition.
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  690. Feb 11 17:09:11 <michaeldcullen> No, it's not.
  691. Feb 11 17:09:13 <c-pin> in a world you cannot steal
  692. Feb 11 17:09:14 <NeverSummer> ??
  693. Feb 11 17:09:15 <c-pin> thats impossible
  694. Feb 11 17:09:16 <michaeldcullen> Because that's not the way the world is.
  695. Feb 11 17:09:25 <c-pin> such a world should be proven to not exist lol
  696. Feb 11 17:09:32 <c-pin> someone get science team on it
  697. Feb 11 17:09:32 <NeverSummer> So anything outside of reality is pointless to discuss?
  698. Feb 11 17:09:33 <michaeldcullen> Therefore it's not a lost sale.
  699. Feb 11 17:09:34 <Ryzen> michaeldcullen, you are deliberately stealing things because it's possible for you to do so
  700. Feb 11 17:09:35 <c-pin> yes
  701. Feb 11 17:09:39 <Ryzen> there's no moral justification for it,
  702. Feb 11 17:09:39 <NeverSummer> That makes any debate impossible.
  703. Feb 11 17:09:41 <Ryzen> none
  704. Feb 11 17:09:41 <c-pin> NeverSummer, actually yeah thats a bit irrelevant
  705. Feb 11 17:09:43 <Ryzen> period
  706. Feb 11 17:09:47 <NeverSummer> If we can't use hypotheticals why are we even talking?
  707. Feb 11 17:09:48 <michaeldcullen> Ryzen, Im not saying there is.
  708. Feb 11 17:09:58 <michaeldcullen> I'm saying I literally don't fucking care.
  709. Feb 11 17:10:06 <c-pin> youre arguing about piracy in a world with no pirates
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  711. Feb 11 17:10:14 <Ryzen> then you must be a sociopath, makes sense
  712. Feb 11 17:10:14 <c-pin> thats like arguing gravity in space
  713. Feb 11 17:10:16 <NeverSummer> And we're saying you don't get to force your lack of caring or dislike of a song onto the other artist.
  714. Feb 11 17:10:18 <michaeldcullen> Ryzen, probably
  715. Feb 11 17:10:19 <NeverSummer> Because it's not your work.
  716. Feb 11 17:10:26 <c-pin> ^^^^
  717. Feb 11 17:10:28 <NeverSummer> You don't get to set the value for the work of others.
  718. Feb 11 17:10:28 <c-pin> or... ^^^^
  719. Feb 11 17:10:37 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, that's how capitalism works.
  720. Feb 11 17:10:42 <c-pin> i give up
  721. Feb 11 17:10:43 <NeverSummer> What...?
  722. Feb 11 17:10:46 <NeverSummer> I mean yeah it is.
  723. Feb 11 17:10:47 <Lumber> The laborer will not be oppressed by the boogie class ANY LONGER
  724. Feb 11 17:10:51 <c-pin> michaeldcullen, you stole a song
  725. Feb 11 17:10:52 <Lumber> The laborer will rise
  726. Feb 11 17:10:54 <NeverSummer> In that if you value it lower than the asking price you don't get it.
  727. Feb 11 17:10:55 <c-pin> thats not in any economy ive heard of
  728. Feb 11 17:10:57 <m13b> seize the memes of production
  729. Feb 11 17:11:01 <NeverSummer> You aren't entitled to steal anything you don't want to pay for.
  730. Feb 11 17:11:04 <shrimp> The Grammy's are tonight, right?
  731. Feb 11 17:11:06 <c-pin> lol m13b good one
  732. Feb 11 17:11:06 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, except it's not stealing
  733. Feb 11 17:11:11 <c-pin> shrimp, torrent this movie
  734. Feb 11 17:11:12 <michaeldcullen> Because I would never have bought it in the first place.
  735. Feb 11 17:11:13 <NeverSummer> Capitalism is a purchase or don't-have-it.
  736. Feb 11 17:11:15 <NeverSummer> system.
  737. Feb 11 17:11:16 <Ryzen> NeverSummer, you might as well quit while you are behind, there's no way to argue with him
  738. Feb 11 17:11:26 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ in the example you gave you would.
  739. Feb 11 17:11:30 <Lordy> so which one of you fucks is trying to illegally download bieber songs
  740. Feb 11 17:11:31 <NeverSummer> If you couldn't pirate you would buy.
  741. Feb 11 17:11:32 <c-pin> https://archive.org/details/20000LeaguesUndertheSea
  742. Feb 11 17:11:34 <buildapcalien> Title: 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea : Carl Laemmle, Stuart Paton : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive (at archive.org)
  743. Feb 11 17:11:35 <NeverSummer> If the alternative is a broken laptop.
  744. Feb 11 17:11:38 <NeverSummer> That is a denied sale.
  745. Feb 11 17:11:38 <c-pin> shrimp, im gonna watch it tonight
  746. Feb 11 17:11:39 <Lumber> Lordy stop
  747. Feb 11 17:11:44 <NeverSummer> Again by literal definiton of sale.
  748. Feb 11 17:11:45 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, how, exactly, would I not have been able to pirate it?
  749. Feb 11 17:11:48 <c-pin> Lordy,
  750. Feb 11 17:11:52 <Lordy> c-pin,
  751. Feb 11 17:11:58 <c-pin> http://biebian.sourceforge.net/
  752. Feb 11 17:11:59 <NeverSummer> In a hypothetical world where music piracy were impossible.
  753. Feb 11 17:11:59 <buildapcalien> Title: Justin Bieber Linux (at biebian.sourceforge.net)
  754. Feb 11 17:12:04 <c-pin> become one with the puppy
  755. Feb 11 17:12:04 <NeverSummer> You would purchase the music.
  756. Feb 11 17:12:06 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, we don't live in that world.
  757. Feb 11 17:12:12 <NeverSummer> So the only reason you are not purchasing is because you can pirate.
  758. Feb 11 17:12:13 <michaeldcullen> In this world, this reality, I would never buy the song.
  759. Feb 11 17:12:14 <Lumber> ok
  760. Feb 11 17:12:14 <shrimp> Lordy: I'm not going back to r-a I think
  761. Feb 11 17:12:16 <NeverSummer> Which is what denied sale means.
  762. Feb 11 17:12:17 <michaeldcullen> Therefore its not a lost sale.
  763. Feb 11 17:12:17 <Lumber> and your legs weren't broken
  764. Feb 11 17:12:18 <c-pin> but michaeldcullen your job doesnt involve your music taste
  765. Feb 11 17:12:20 <Lumber> so why bring it up
  766. Feb 11 17:12:21 <c-pin> you play shit for shit people
  767. Feb 11 17:12:23 <Lordy> shrimp, rip u
  768. Feb 11 17:12:24 <Lumber> that's a potential hypothetical
  769. Feb 11 17:12:25 <c-pin> thats what you do
  770. Feb 11 17:12:25 <NeverSummer> lolol^
  771. Feb 11 17:12:33 <NeverSummer> No one has ever threatened to break my legs.
  772. Feb 11 17:12:40 <michaeldcullen> Guys, can I just please clarify
  773. Feb 11 17:12:40 <Ryzen> michaeldcullen, you are seemingly oblivious to the point
  774. Feb 11 17:12:45 <michaeldcullen> I've never played a bieber song for someone.
  775. Feb 11 17:12:45 <NeverSummer> So any discussions of any hypothetical world is pointless.
  776. Feb 11 17:12:48 <shrimp> Lordy: berz put me on +q and hasn't bothered to change it
  777. Feb 11 17:12:48 <NeverSummer> michaeldcullen‚ we know.
  778. Feb 11 17:12:51 <NeverSummer> Not the point.
  779. Feb 11 17:12:52 <michaeldcullen> Or accepted a request.
  780. Feb 11 17:12:54 <Ryzen> michaeldcullen, someone requests a song, you play the song, therefore pirating it in your case is a lost sale
  781. Feb 11 17:12:58 <c-pin> if they ask for it tell then youre not a radio lol
  782. Feb 11 17:13:00 <shrimp> Lordy: and no one in the channel has noticed
  783. Feb 11 17:13:01 <michaeldcullen> Ryzen, it's not though
  784. Feb 11 17:13:01 <Ryzen> you are literally pirating instead of buying because you dont care
  785. Feb 11 17:13:02 <Lordy> shrimp, rip u nerd
  786. Feb 11 17:13:04 <Ryzen> it is
  787. Feb 11 17:13:05 <michaeldcullen> Because I would never have bought it.
  788. Feb 11 17:13:08 <NeverSummer> You've wavering on your rules about whether hypotheticals being allowed to suit your case.
  789. Feb 11 17:13:12 <Ryzen> then dont play it when someone requests it
  790. Feb 11 17:13:16 <NeverSummer> You can't change the rules of the argument to suit yourself.
  791. Feb 11 17:13:22 <michaeldcullen> I probably wouldn't play it, but that's not the point
  792. Feb 11 17:13:23 <NeverSummer> Either we're allowing hypotheticals or not.
  793. Feb 11 17:13:23 <c-pin> yeah just say i dont have it man
  794. Feb 11 17:13:30 <c-pin> get a club mix
  795. Feb 11 17:13:31 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, which hypothetical?
  796. Feb 11 17:13:41 <NeverSummer> The hypothetical of if you couldn't pirate.
  797. Feb 11 17:13:44 <NeverSummer> For whatever reason.
  798. Feb 11 17:13:48 <c-pin> what the hell kind of club plays pop though
  799. Feb 11 17:13:49 <michaeldcullen> That's a REALLY big hypothetical.
  800. Feb 11 17:13:51 <NeverSummer> Okay here... there's no wifi.
  801. Feb 11 17:13:55 <c-pin> you gotta add sub bass and shit
  802. Feb 11 17:13:55 <Lordy> mfw
  803. Feb 11 17:13:55 <michaeldcullen> c-pin, Top 40 venues
  804. Feb 11 17:14:01 <NeverSummer> You have no access to the internet.
  805. Feb 11 17:14:01 <c-pin> ew you go to those?
  806. Feb 11 17:14:05 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, then how would I be able to buy the track either?
  807. Feb 11 17:14:05 <Tinus> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNR08HmzRoM9wEL0rW2tKtq6j8ChYjBnY1FHXYaKdl4fjvX961QK8IxPX0FIL4PzQ/photo/AF1QipMVEaP4T72za8Ws1axVipqMLW8zLstMY5NP2Mfr?key=cXlzQk5WQ05GOWJRSVA1WFgyTWhyNjFlZ0Y3bjJn
  808. Feb 11 17:14:05 <c-pin> and you claim to have any taste
  809. Feb 11 17:14:05 <Lordy> c-pin, what am i reading here?
  810. Feb 11 17:14:07 <NeverSummer> But there's a guy there selling a cd for the track.
  811. Feb 11 17:14:13 <michaeldcullen> ...
  812. Feb 11 17:14:14 <NeverSummer> That is a possible real world scenario.
  813. Feb 11 17:14:16 <c-pin> Lordy, its biebian, the premier linux distro
  814. Feb 11 17:14:23 <Lordy> c-pin, nonono in bapo itself
  815. Feb 11 17:14:24 <michaeldcullen> It's the most ridiculous real world scenario in the world
  816. Feb 11 17:14:26 <c-pin> OH
  817. Feb 11 17:14:26 <michaeldcullen> And more importantly
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  820. Feb 11 17:14:35 <NeverSummer> Well you banned my much more reasonable hypothetical.
  821. Feb 11 17:14:38 <michaeldcullen> If I give that guy £1 for the song
  822. Feb 11 17:14:41 <michaeldcullen> HE gets the money.
  823. Feb 11 17:14:41 <c-pin> this guy is djing and he thitnks he has taste but he wont play trash songs at top 40s
  824. Feb 11 17:14:42 <NeverSummer> Which is just assuming no piracy.
  825. Feb 11 17:14:43 <michaeldcullen> Not Bieber.
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  827. Feb 11 17:14:49 <Chaebi> I got a mail from Best Buy. 10% off on one order.
  828. Feb 11 17:14:51 <Chaebi> Products in the following categories are excluded from this offer:
  829. Feb 11 17:14:51 <Chaebi> Computers, tablets, HT projectors, subscription software services, digital music services, gaming consoles, music and e-reader download cards, contract mobile phones, and mobile broadband devices. Select premium TVs from LG, Samsung, Sharp and Sony. Select Blu-ray players from Samsung and Sony. Select home audio products from Samsung, Sony, LG, and Sharp. Select drones.
  830. Feb 11 17:14:55 <Chaebi> ... so basically the whole store
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  832. Feb 11 17:14:59 <michaeldcullen> So yeah, I'd give him £1 for helping me out.
  833. Feb 11 17:15:00 <Lordy> c-pin, there is your problem. he is a dj
  834. Feb 11 17:15:06 <Ryzen> NeverSummer, did you see the new wraith coolers?
  835. Feb 11 17:15:07 <c-pin> Chaebi, get a pair of nintendo panties
  836. Feb 11 17:15:09 <c-pin> done
  837. Feb 11 17:15:13 <c-pin> Lordy, yep
  838. Feb 11 17:15:19 <michaeldcullen> Brb, getting a drink
  839. Feb 11 17:15:20 <Ryzen> NeverSummer, http://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/AMD-Ryzen-CPU-Coolers.png
  840. Feb 11 17:15:20 <Lordy> Chaebi, top kek
  841. Feb 11 17:15:22 <c-pin> he apparently doesnt have the money to buy a 1 dollar song
  842. Feb 11 17:15:23 <Lumber> michaeldcullen what's wrong with bieber
  843. Feb 11 17:15:25 <Lumber> I mean morally
  844. Feb 11 17:15:27 <Ryzen> pretty slick looking stock coolers IMO
  845. Feb 11 17:15:29 <c-pin> now NeverSummer theres another part to this
  846. Feb 11 17:15:32 <Tinus> >wccftech
  847. Feb 11 17:15:34 <c-pin> what about the license
  848. Feb 11 17:15:34 <Lumber> why doesn't he deserve money for a track he sang on
  849. Feb 11 17:15:38 <Tinus> I thought we would link that shit
  850. Feb 11 17:15:40 <Lordy> michaeldcullen, wtf you got against bieber? he's my fav artist
  851. Feb 11 17:15:45 <c-pin> you cant just buy a song on itunes and play it there
  852. Feb 11 17:15:56 <c-pin> its for personal use not the venue
  853. Feb 11 17:16:00 <michaeldcullen> c-pin, actually you can
  854. Feb 11 17:16:08 <c-pin> BUY THE SONG THEN YA YAHOO
  855. Feb 11 17:16:10 <c-pin> ITS 99 CENTS
  856. Feb 11 17:16:13 <michaeldcullen> No
  857. Feb 11 17:16:17 <NeverSummer> Ryzen‚ kewl.
  858. Feb 11 17:16:20 <c-pin> tell the venue to put it on your bill XD
  859. Feb 11 17:16:23 <NeverSummer> Yeah those make Intel look a bit like crap.
  860. Feb 11 17:16:24 <c-pin> or do you pay to play there
  861. Feb 11 17:16:32 <Ryzen> NeverSummer, i think both designs look awesome, especially compared to intel coolers
  862. Feb 11 17:16:35 <Ryzen> NeverSummer, yeah
  863. Feb 11 17:16:42 <michaeldcullen> Look, this has never happened lol
  864. Feb 11 17:16:45 <NeverSummer> Anyway shower and work time michaeldcullen can't step outside of his own argument long enough to see the logical flows.
  865. Feb 11 17:16:45 <c-pin> will thewraith coolers overclock tho?
  866. Feb 11 17:16:47 <michaeldcullen> It was just an example
  867. Feb 11 17:16:47 <NeverSummer> flaws.
  868. Feb 11 17:16:57 <Ryzen> NeverSummer, cya
  869. Feb 11 17:17:00 <NeverSummer> I can't debate it any more I'm going to die from repeating myself.
  870. Feb 11 17:17:01 <michaeldcullen> NeverSummer, have a good day
  871. Feb 11 17:17:01 <Ryzen> NeverSummer, we will make sure to give m13b some work to do
  872. Feb 11 17:17:04 <Ryzen> new modes need breaking in
  873. Feb 11 17:17:05 <Lordy> Ryzen, why waste your time arguing with this troll
  874. Feb 11 17:17:07 <NeverSummer> : >
  875. Feb 11 17:17:08 <NeverSummer> do it
  876. Feb 11 17:17:17 <Lordy> m13b, bb
  877. Feb 11 17:17:23 <michaeldcullen> Lordy, who the fuck are you?
  878. Feb 11 17:17:24 <c-pin> everyone download this https://archive.org/details/20000LeaguesUndertheSea
  879. Feb 11 17:17:25 <buildapcalien> Title: 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea : Carl Laemmle, Stuart Paton : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive (at archive.org)
  880. Feb 11 17:17:26 <c-pin> its not piracy
  881. Feb 11 17:17:30 <Lordy> michaeldcullen, i am lordy, how are you
  882. Feb 11 17:17:41 <m13b> hi Lordy nice to meet you
  883. Feb 11 17:17:45 <c-pin> hey m13b Lordy
  884. Feb 11 17:17:49 <Ryzen> c-pin, the wraith cooler is rated for 125w cpus, ryzen will be 65w or 95w, so there's headroom on models that include the far right cooler for sure
  885. Feb 11 17:17:52 <Lordy> hi guys, i'm new here
  886. Feb 11 17:17:54 <Ryzen> c-pin, no idea on the other two with regard to performance, those are new
  887. Feb 11 17:17:56 <c-pin> nire Ryzen
  888. Feb 11 17:17:59 <m13b> he noob
  889. Feb 11 17:18:00 <michaeldcullen> c-pin, 1916 baby
  890. Feb 11 17:18:05 <c-pin> im wondering why amd even suppiled coolers tbh
  891. Feb 11 17:18:05 <m13b> we bully newfriends
  892. Feb 11 17:18:07 <Lordy> i wanted to build a mac. any tips?
  893. Feb 11 17:18:09 <c-pin> save money just sell the chip
  894. Feb 11 17:18:13 <c-pin> Lordy, buy a mac
  895. Feb 11 17:18:16 <m13b> Lordy, just get a console tbh
  896. Feb 11 17:18:16 <c-pin> youll love yourself more
  897. Feb 11 17:18:25 <Demes> Why would someone need to buy a song?
  898. Feb 11 17:18:29 <c-pin> hackintoshes are not worth compared to linux
  899. Feb 11 17:18:30 <Ryzen> m13b, have you used your magic mode powers yet?
  900. Feb 11 17:18:35 <Demes> can't you just play it off free spotify and block the ads?
  901. Feb 11 17:18:39 <m13b> I dont think I have permissions yet tbh
  902. Feb 11 17:18:40 <Lordy> wait, m13b is a mod here now?
  903. Feb 11 17:18:44 <Ryzen> m13b, only one way to find out
  904. Feb 11 17:18:47 <c-pin> theyre finnicky af and you have to update them every year or every apps goes out
  905. Feb 11 17:18:48 <Ryzen> m13b, kick me
  906. Feb 11 17:18:48 <Lordy> holy shit it's gone downhill fast here
  907. Feb 11 17:18:52 <michaeldcullen> c-pin, https://soundcloud.com/will_wonder/50-cent-vs-will-sparks-in-da-1
  908. Feb 11 17:18:53 <Lordy> :^)
  909. Feb 11 17:18:53 <NeverSummer> Demes‚ that's equally illegal in a performance.
  910. Feb 11 17:18:53 <buildapcalien> Title: In Da Melbournia Club (Will Wonder Edit) by Will Wonder | Free Listening on SoundCloud (at soundcloud.com)
  911. Feb 11 17:19:01 <m13b> ,op
  912. Feb 11 17:19:05 <Lordy> ,op
  913. Feb 11 17:19:05 <michaeldcullen> Demes, yeah, super illegal
  914. Feb 11 17:19:06 <CustardFilled> REKT
  915. Feb 11 17:19:07 <NeverSummer> Demes‚ you can't broadcast spotify at a venue for personal profit.
  916. Feb 11 17:19:09 <Ryzen> m13b, lol
  917. Feb 11 17:19:12 <m13b> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  918. Feb 11 17:19:13 <Ryzen> NeverSummer, m13b has no mode powers yet
  919. Feb 11 17:19:15 <c-pin> michaeldcullen, i think weve already established that your taste is trash
  920. Feb 11 17:19:20 <c-pin> this is equally trash
  921. Feb 11 17:19:20 <NeverSummer> Ryzen‚ that's ThoughtA's jop.
  922. Feb 11 17:19:21 <michaeldcullen> c-pin, wat
  923. Feb 11 17:19:23 <m13b> Dont tell anyone else though
  924. Feb 11 17:19:26 <NeverSummer> I can't add +o to people.
  925. Feb 11 17:19:27 <m13b> otherwise they may break rules
  926. Feb 11 17:19:28 <Lordy> c-pin, pls bb no bully
  927. Feb 11 17:19:28 <c-pin> ixm listening to it lol
  928. Feb 11 17:19:31 <Ryzen> NeverSummer, we should harass him immediately!
  929. Feb 11 17:19:34 <michaeldcullen> c-pin, what's wrong with Melbourne Bounce?
  930. Feb 11 17:19:39 <Lordy> michaeldcullen, everything
  931. Feb 11 17:19:43 <c-pin> michaeldcullen, yeah everything tbh
  932. Feb 11 17:19:43 <Ryzen> ThoughtA, !
  933. Feb 11 17:19:46 <michaeldcullen> Lordy, who the fuck even are you?
  934. Feb 11 17:19:53 <Lordy> michaeldcullen, i'm lordy, how are you?
  935. Feb 11 17:19:54 <Lumber> michaeldcullen try the bot
  936. Feb 11 17:19:57 <Lumber> err
  937. Feb 11 17:19:59 <Demes> oh, I assumed it was ok since I see it quite often
  938. Feb 11 17:20:00 <c-pin> michaeldcullen, play this or ill break your legs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqOJD_TdIKY
  939. Feb 11 17:20:00 <Lumber> m13b try the bot
  940. Feb 11 17:20:00 <buildapcalien> Title: Dying Fetus - Kill Your Mother, Rape Your Dog - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
  941. Feb 11 17:20:06 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to m13b
  942. Feb 11 17:20:13 <Lumber> yeahhhh buddy
  943. Feb 11 17:20:13 <CustardFilled> delayyyyyyyyyyy
  944. Feb 11 17:20:15 <c-pin> duuuuuuuude
  945. Feb 11 17:20:15 <Ryzen> lol
  946. Feb 11 17:20:27 <c-pin> back to old DF though
  947. Feb 11 17:20:28 <Demes> last time I went to a bar the DJ was exactly using spotify to play the music
  948. Feb 11 17:20:28 <michaeldcullen> c-pin, I don't think your music would work well in most clubs
  949. Feb 11 17:20:28 <Lumber> The meek shall inherit the bapo
  950. Feb 11 17:20:29 <Tinus> c-pin: time to duck
  951. Feb 11 17:20:31 <c-pin> new df not so good
  952. Feb 11 17:20:35 * c-pin eats Tinus
  953. Feb 11 17:20:37 <michaeldcullen> Demes, he's not a DJ then
  954. Feb 11 17:20:40 <michaeldcullen> He's an idiot
  955. Feb 11 17:20:41 <c-pin> did someone say duck
  956. Feb 11 17:20:41 * Tinus ducks
  957. Feb 11 17:20:52 * ChanServ removes channel operator status from m13b
  958. Feb 11 17:20:52 * c-pin eats some duck
  959. Feb 11 17:20:52 <Lordy> michaeldcullen, fuck outta here calling c-pin an idiot
  960. Feb 11 17:20:56 <Lumber> m13b ;)
  961. Feb 11 17:20:56 <c-pin> ikr ;-;
  962. Feb 11 17:20:59 <Demes> :D
  963. Feb 11 17:20:59 <c-pin> u hurt my feelings
  964. Feb 11 17:21:01 <michaeldcullen> lol
  965. Feb 11 17:21:07 <Lumber> Yeah be nice
  966. Feb 11 17:21:07 <michaeldcullen> Okay you get a point for that
  967. Feb 11 17:21:11 * Lying_Idiot (585a9c7d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.88.90.156.125) has joined
  968. Feb 11 17:21:13 <m13b> ;;;)
  969. Feb 11 17:21:13 <Lordy> he's my preverbial n word
  970. Feb 11 17:21:16 <Aliexpress> ok michaeldcullen i got it
  971. Feb 11 17:21:17 <c-pin> lol
  972. Feb 11 17:21:18 <m13b> thats my spider face
  973. Feb 11 17:21:20 <c-pin> narcotics?
  974. Feb 11 17:21:22 <michaeldcullen> Aliexpress, what's it like in person?
  975. Feb 11 17:21:29 <michaeldcullen> Right size?
  976. Feb 11 17:21:30 <c-pin> i wanna be ur drug <3
  977. Feb 11 17:21:43 <Lordy> what's a word that starts with f and ends with uck
  978. Feb 11 17:21:59 <Aliexpress> fucking huge
  979. Feb 11 17:22:04 <michaeldcullen> Ahaha
  980. Feb 11 17:22:04 <Aliexpress> it didn't fit in either vehicle we had
  981. Feb 11 17:22:07 <michaeldcullen> fuck :-/
  982. Feb 11 17:22:10 <michaeldcullen> How'd you get it back?
  983. Feb 11 17:22:11 <Lying_Idiot> hi! Not really getting this sub, what's the difference between "build help" and getting spoonfed a build?
  984. Feb 11 17:22:21 * Davnit has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  985. Feb 11 17:22:26 <Aliexpress> we tied the door closed with string
  986. Feb 11 17:22:27 <michaeldcullen> Lying_Idiot, whether or not you ask DrDoofenshmirtz for it
  987. Feb 11 17:22:33 <Lordy> Lying_Idiot,
  988. Feb 11 17:22:42 <michaeldcullen> We'll help you, he'll just send you a link and tell you not to buy a K-series CPU or a PCIe SSD
  989. Feb 11 17:22:47 <Lordy> you do research, make a build, and ask for help
  990. Feb 11 17:22:55 <Lordy> michaeldcullen, "we'll"
  991. Feb 11 17:23:04 <Lordy> pls don't include yourself and your trash music
  992. Feb 11 17:23:10 * JayyK11 (5c0de5bf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.92.13.229.191) has joined
  993. Feb 11 17:23:15 <Tinus> Im listening to shitty japanese dance/hardcore whatever the fck it is
  994. Feb 11 17:23:21 <michaeldcullen> Seriously, who is this guy?
  995. Feb 11 17:23:24 <Aliexpress> weeb music
  996. Feb 11 17:23:31 * inversion_modz (~inversion@5.246.161.153) has joined
  997. Feb 11 17:23:33 <Lordy> michaeldcullen, i'm lordy, how are you?
  998. Feb 11 17:23:34 * inversion_modz (~inversion@5.246.161.153) has left
  999. Feb 11 17:23:39 <Tinus> c-pin is a shitposter michaeldcullen
  1000. Feb 11 17:23:40 <Lying_Idiot> okay, thanks. Will try to avoid linking to trash music, too
  1001. Feb 11 17:23:43 <Tinus> Incase you didnt notice
  1002. Feb 11 17:23:46 <desgen> michaeldcullen• Are you being autistic again?
  1003. Feb 11 17:23:51 <michaeldcullen> desgen, allegedly
  1004. Feb 11 17:23:52 <Lordy> Lying_Idiot, nonono, your music isn't trash
  1005. Feb 11 17:23:54 <ThoughtA> ,op
  1006. Feb 11 17:23:55 * buildapcalien gives channel operator status to ThoughtA
  1007. Feb 11 17:23:55 <Lordy> desgen, yes he is
  1008. Feb 11 17:24:00 * Tinus ducks
  1009. Feb 11 17:24:03 * Lordy dips
  1010. Feb 11 17:24:04 <Lumber> ,quiet m13b 10
  1011. Feb 11 17:24:07 <Lumber> mfw
  1012. Feb 11 17:24:12 <Lumber> ,q m13b 10
  1013. Feb 11 17:24:14 <buildapcalien> (q [<channel>] <nick|hostmask>[,<nick|hostmask>] [<years>y] [<weeks>w] [<days>d] [<hours>h] [<minutes>m] [<seconds>s] [<-1> or empty means forever] <reason>) -- +q targets for duration <reason> is mandatory
  1014. Feb 11 17:24:16 <Lumber> ugh
  1015. Feb 11 17:24:19 <Lordy> top kek
  1016. Feb 11 17:24:20 -ChanServ/#reddit-buildapc- ThoughtA set flags +o on m13b
  1017. Feb 11 17:24:24 -ChanServ/#reddit-buildapc- ThoughtA set flags +o on JaffaCakes6
  1018. Feb 11 17:24:25 * swift110 (~swift110@unaffiliated/swift110) has joined
  1019. Feb 11 17:24:39 <m13b> now Lumber cant bully me anymore
  1020. Feb 11 17:24:42 <m13b> horay!
  1021. Feb 11 17:24:44 <Lordy> bs
  1022. Feb 11 17:24:48 <Lordy> he still will
  1023. Feb 11 17:24:51 <michaeldcullen> He didn't set flag +v
  1024. Feb 11 17:24:53 <Tinus> uhh what is happening
  1025. Feb 11 17:24:54 <michaeldcullen> So depends on the IRCd ;P
  1026. Feb 11 17:25:05 <Lordy> Tinus, circlejerking. shhhh
  1027. Feb 11 17:25:10 <ThoughtA> ,deop
  1028. Feb 11 17:25:10 * buildapcalien removes channel operator status from ThoughtA
  1029. Feb 11 17:25:24 <michaeldcullen> Guys, seriously
  1030. Feb 11 17:25:26 <michaeldcullen> Look at this keyboard
  1031. Feb 11 17:25:27 <michaeldcullen> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-KEYBOARD-COMFORT-COMPUTER-KEY-BOARD-/311793592211?hash=item489858a793:g:bUwAAOSw5cNYkv9d
  1032. Feb 11 17:25:28 <buildapcalien> Title: VINTAGE KEYBOARD.....COMFORT COMPUTER KEY BOARD | eBay (at www.ebay.co.uk)
  1033. Feb 11 17:25:33 <michaeldcullen> Look at the OTHER photos of it
  1034. Feb 11 17:25:41 <Demes> why do you deop yourself? :|
  1035. Feb 11 17:25:44 <Tinus> c-pin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8j7vAVtmA0
  1036. Feb 11 17:25:45 <buildapcalien> Title: 【Imperial Circus Dead Decadence】 - 謳 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
  1037. Feb 11 17:25:46 <michaeldcullen> http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/al0AAOSw4DJYkv-g/s-l1600.jpg
  1038. Feb 11 17:25:53 <Ryzen> m13b, you have mode powers now?
  1039. Feb 11 17:25:58 <Ryzen> m13b, try kicking me :O
  1040. Feb 11 17:26:01 <Lumber> he is a tode
  1041. Feb 11 17:26:02 * d4nky has quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)
  1042. Feb 11 17:26:07 <Lumber> a turbotode, if you will
  1043. Feb 11 17:26:10 <Ryzen> lol
  1044. Feb 11 17:26:27 <m13b> #28 "manirelli: we don't do joke kicks" (added by firebolt1914 at 04:32 PM, October 28, 2014)
  1045. Feb 11 17:26:30 <Tinus> ,kick Tinus
  1046. Feb 11 17:26:34 * CrazyCow9 (b5ab6cda@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.181.171.108.218) has joined
  1047. Feb 11 17:26:42 <Lordy> m13b, that's cuz manirelli doesn't know how to have fun
  1048. Feb 11 17:26:49 <Ryzen> m13b, try making the bot op you then or something/
  1049. Feb 11 17:27:01 * liam_zzz is now known as liam_
  1050. Feb 11 17:27:11 <Lordy> aight friends and michaeldcullen
  1051. Feb 11 17:27:16 <CrazyCow9> hey this pc chassis is really cheap in the local market, any opinions on it ? http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model_Specification.aspx?id=C_00002677
  1052. Feb 11 17:27:18 <buildapcalien> Title: Thermaltake - Global - Suppressor F51 Window - CA-1E1-00M1WN-00 (at www.thermaltake.com)
  1053. Feb 11 17:27:18 <Lordy> time for me to leave for a month again
  1054. Feb 11 17:27:22 <Lordy> have fun
  1055. Feb 11 17:27:24 * Lordy (~Lordy@unaffiliated/lordy) has left ("I have quit")
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