Wednesday, August 05, 2015
7:54 AM - BOT Harvey: Question for ya when you have a chance.
Monday, August 17, 2015
9:59 PM - BOT Harvey: Question.
9:59 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Hm?
9:59 PM - BOT Harvey: How much do you move at OPSkins a month?
10:00 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Hard to say.
10:00 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Probably around 50k a month at least?
10:00 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Most likely more.
10:00 PM - BOT Harvey: Is that with the new stuff of reselling from the community sites?
10:01 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Depends, some comes from trading some comes from buy/sell.
10:00 PM - BOT Harvey: So it's just you or is it you and Jon?
10:01 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Jon and I.
10:01 PM - BOT Harvey: Is the margin really tight there?
10:01 PM - BOT Harvey: Or is it still pretty healthy?
10:02 PM - BOT Harvey: (i don't watch their prices enough to know)
10:02 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Pretty darn tight.
10:02 PM - BOT Harvey: I know what you guys buy for, just not sell for.
10:02 PM - BOT Harvey: Buy around 56 and sell around 70?
10:02 PM - BOT Harvey: Before commissions of course.
10:03 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Lately prices have gone as low as 65% :(
10:03 PM - BOT Harvey: I know Jackpot's changed their shit and you should be able to get your buy average down to like 52.
10:03 PM - BOT Harvey: Maybe 53
10:04 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Shitty skins though.
10:04 PM - BOT Harvey: Just trying to judge some stuff.
10:04 PM - BOT Harvey: :
10:04 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
10:04 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah.
10:04 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Smaller skins have better margins.
10:04 PM - BOT Harvey: Jackpot stop selling altogether?
10:05 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It's just TIME CONSUMING
10:04 PM - BOT Harvey: Yeah I know they do.
10:04 PM - BOT Harvey: I had to list like 200 skins under $1 three weeks ago.
10:05 PM - BOT Harvey: Took me 3 hours.
10:05 PM - BOT Harvey: What a fucking pain.
10:05 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Margins are bomb though.
10:05 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: For under $1
10:05 PM - BOT Harvey: Yup
10:05 PM - BOT Harvey: On stuff under 50c, I was pricing 110%.
10:05 PM - BOT Harvey: They were gone in hours.
10:06 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Poor kids don't wanna wait a week.
10:06 PM - BOT Harvey: Haha
10:06 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It's true though.
10:06 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It's why it works.
10:06 PM - BOT Harvey: Yup
10:06 PM - BOT Harvey: So average sale around 68?
10:07 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's fair.
10:07 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: 65-70 so that's a fair average.
10:07 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Gonna start selling on enemy territory?
10:07 PM - BOT Harvey: Looking at some stuff.
10:07 PM - BOT Harvey: You know me.
10:07 PM - BOT Harvey: :P
10:08 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Sure. How much do you guys buy from jackpot per week?
10:07 PM - BOT Harvey: You know I can't say that.
10:08 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: This is unrecorded -_-
10:08 PM - BOT Harvey: A hint: Will was in charge of purchasing
10:09 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Oh great, so you guys probably slacked then.
10:11 PM - BOT Harvey: Wait so you and Jon only make 6.2k/month in profit?
10:11 PM - BOT Harvey: That's hard to believe.
10:11 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I never said that.
10:11 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Because I can't disclose such knowledge, we've been through this :P
10:11 PM - BOT Harvey: Trying to asset something.
10:11 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
10:12 PM - BOT Harvey: If I had an offer for something of value, would you snitch to Will?
10:12 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: No reason to snitch to Will.
10:12 PM - BOT Harvey: Commission free account.
10:12 PM - BOT Harvey: ;)
10:13 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What do you mean?
10:13 PM - BOT Harvey: I have one.
10:13 PM - BOT Harvey: I don't really use it.
10:14 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You guys must have a healthy working environment..
10:13 PM - BOT Harvey: Huh?
10:14 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: The fact that you're being sneaky with your right hand man or whatever you guys call eachother.
10:14 PM - BOT Harvey: I don't work there anymore.
10:15 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Why?
10:15 PM - BOT Harvey: Will is Will.
10:15 PM - BOT Harvey: Doesn't do stuff when I tell him to, would rather do stuff on Will time.
10:15 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So that explains the increase of slack.
10:16 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I tried to collaberate years back with a dota site, but he blamed me for failure when I would always try to communicate him with ideas.
10:16 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's when I knew he's a horrible business partner.
10:16 PM - BOT Harvey: He's a horrible anything partner.
10:17 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah.. he's changed.
10:17 PM - BOT Harvey: He wants everything, doesn't want any responsibility, and doesn't want to do things in a proper manner or proper timespan.
10:17 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He used to be super damn cool.
10:17 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And he used to give a shit.
10:17 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It all changed when he opened tf2shop.
10:17 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He started resting on his laurels.
10:17 PM - BOT Harvey: You'd say I had a damn good reason for being mad at you.
10:17 PM - BOT Harvey: Wouldn't you?
10:18 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Lol I was doing fine for what I was being paid for, and I was bringing in more guys to your store via marketing.
10:18 PM - BOT Harvey: Meh.
10:18 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You guys screwed up by firing me, but it was ultimately a good thing because it enabled me to do my own things.
10:18 PM - BOT Harvey: You slacked compared to what other guys did.
10:19 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: The last skype call we were in, Nick sniped all the tickets and I did well with pending orders, you can't deny that.
10:19 PM - BOT Harvey: I'm not saying you didn't work, you just worked on what you wanted.
10:19 PM - BOT Harvey: I actually think you work a lot.
10:20 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And if you had let me do that, I woulda made you guys richer.
10:19 PM - BOT Harvey: On the stuff you want.
10:20 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah I'm actually working TOO much, starting to wear on me.
10:20 PM - BOT Harvey: I never said you issue was working, it was simply that you made too much on your own.
10:20 PM - BOT Harvey: It created a conflict of interest.
10:21 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: True... Why would I work when I got paid $500 a day doing my own thing.
10:21 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Maybe in a different time and place I woulda been a better employee.
10:21 PM - BOT Harvey: But that's why I got angry.
10:21 PM - BOT Harvey: You wanted to be there but didn't want to do the work that you got with the priveledges and paycheck.
10:21 PM - BOT Harvey: go*
10:23 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I will admit I acted like I was better than every1 and deserved to do my own thing, but that's only because I felt I had the capabilities to do more than what others couldn't, cue in CSGL mentions etc etc.
10:23 PM - BOT Harvey: But at that point we didn't NEED marketing, we needed support grinding.
10:24 PM - BOT Harvey: You had a purpose and served it up to a point.
10:24 PM - BOT Harvey: But after that, you didn't.
10:25 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I also lost interest when after I got trade banned and a lot of stuff fell through, that and Will lied to me about giving me shares to the company even if I didn't "invest".
10:25 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He was going to reward me and Ernest for being on the ground floor of when it started and helping pick things up.
10:26 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I put my own god damn money into it and I got rekt. So it goes it's business.
10:26 PM - BOT Harvey: I was never informed of this.
10:26 PM - BOT Harvey: IF you had come to me or put it in an email, I'd have GAURANTEED you got it.
10:26 PM - BOT Harvey: As long as you worked.
10:27 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I said it in Skype on our last call and Will denied it, remember?
10:26 PM - BOT Harvey: No proof in writing.
10:27 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah, I fucked up by not having proof.
10:27 PM - BOT Harvey: I've noticed Will likes to negotiate in places there are no records.
10:27 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Our dota deal went through with no steam chat, go figure.
10:27 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I learned a lot after I got shit canned.
10:28 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: with steam chat*
10:27 PM - BOT Harvey: He did the same to me.
10:27 PM - BOT Harvey: Why do you think I'm looking to sell my commission rights?
10:28 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Even if he gave me 5% or something smaller just for being fuckin loyal to him for 3+ years, but nope.
10:28 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I helped make TF2Shop and asked for nothing in return.
10:28 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He forgets too easily.
10:28 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: But w/e.
10:28 PM - BOT Harvey: He doesn't forget.
10:28 PM - BOT Harvey: He lies.
10:29 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah.
10:29 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Wanna read something good?
10:28 PM - BOT Harvey: Sure.
10:29 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Actually I don't know if it's even available.
10:29 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It's from an OLD forum]
10:29 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Lemme try finding.
10:29 PM - BOT Harvey: But yeah, I'm looking to get those selling rights in writing then sell them off.
10:29 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
10:29 PM - BOT Harvey: commission rights*
10:29 PM - BOT Harvey: I do have it in some writing, of course.
10:30 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: http://forums.sourceop.com/threads/107055-Flame-Fest/page5
10:30 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Back then when I was the villain of TF2 for sharking the best shit.
10:30 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Read William's post.
10:30 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's not the one I wanted to show but it's one of them.
10:30 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He was a goodie two shoes back then.
10:30 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Money changed him. :(
10:31 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I cringe at the shit I post 3 years back.
10:31 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I deserve the hate I got lol.
10:31 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: http://forums.sourceop.com/threads/107055-Flame-Fest/page6
10:31 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Read Willi's post there.
10:33 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm not even sure if you know the full story, but Will hated me at first because my views of sharking and making mad profit off of idiots conflicted with his "goodie 2 shoesness", but when some big scammer went and chargebacked a lot of people, I helped make a claim to get everyone their money back, including Will's $4k that got disputed. He became my friend.
10:33 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Shortly after he ran the idea of TF2Shop, and he was scared to make such a project but I completely supported him, all without asking for a thing.
10:33 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Well I did ask for a thing, I was his first seller on the site, but even then he treated me like an outcast because I was still hated by everyone.
10:33 PM - BOT Harvey: Meh.
10:34 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Will was my friend.
10:34 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: A really good one too.
10:33 PM - BOT Harvey: Well guess what?
10:33 PM - BOT Harvey: Commission free account could be a solid way to get back.
10:33 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
10:34 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Go on
10:34 PM - BOT Harvey: And make some money at the same time.
10:34 PM - BOT Harvey: It'd depend on how much it'd be worth to you, per year.
10:35 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: A commission free account can't last forever, and you can't raise too much of a red flag by uploading too much.
10:35 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Then again he's too lazy to check on things/
10:35 PM - BOT Harvey: ^^^^^
10:35 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So what is it you offer?
10:35 PM - BOT Harvey: I might offer it for...
10:36 PM - BOT Harvey: $100k/year.
10:36 PM - BOT Harvey: Again, I have no clue how much you move.
10:37 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Price would have to be significantly cheaper because right now that can't work I think. Wait is it 100% or 97% after PP fees?
10:37 PM - BOT Harvey: 100%.
10:37 PM - BOT Harvey: I don't pay anything.
10:37 PM - BOT Harvey: Or at least am not suppose to.
10:38 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So by me selling, he's actually losing money.
10:37 PM - BOT Harvey: Never withdrawn.
10:37 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
10:38 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Sooo. why me?
10:38 PM - BOT Harvey: Because there are only a handful of major resellers?
10:38 PM - BOT Harvey: Sell it to whomever it is worth the most.
10:39 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Okay.
10:39 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I see.
10:39 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Well right now the bots are always full, I haven't been able to list stuff.
10:40 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And when I do, Will bitches at me.
10:40 PM - BOT Harvey: He did the same to me and ripped my rights away.
10:40 PM - BOT Harvey: First time I had listed in a week.
10:41 PM - BOT Harvey: And only 100 items.
10:41 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Why would he rip rights from the fuckin investor...
10:41 PM - BOT Harvey: Because he's a total scumbag?
10:42 PM - BOT Harvey: He also repriced all the items and just put the addition into the balance on the site (even though we both know that's totally wrong and doesn't mean squat).
10:42 PM - BOT Harvey: Before he even informed me.
10:42 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Wait so you need to clue me in or something because there's obviously something happened that made you want to act maliciously. Unless it's just pent up bullshit you had to deal with.
10:42 PM - BOT Harvey: He kicked me out after I worked my ass off.
10:42 PM - BOT Harvey: Refuses to offer more.
10:43 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I should have told you...
10:43 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He told me his plan for you.
10:43 PM - BOT Harvey: I offered to buy him out make his remaining equity worth a LOT more.
10:43 PM - BOT Harvey: Really?
10:43 PM - BOT Harvey: What was it?
10:43 PM - BOT Harvey: And why didn't you?
10:43 PM - BOT Harvey: And when....
10:44 PM - BOT Harvey: I certainly didn't ever do anything to do.
10:44 PM - BOT Harvey: Except ask you to work.
10:44 PM - BOT Harvey: :'(
10:44 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: His words were "I want to be as greedy as possible and offer the minimal amount to the investor, when I get big I want to hoard all the shares", this was last year when he offered to give me free shares for being on the ground floor with him. Obviously I have no proof of this other than my word, but that's the gist of what he said.
10:45 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Honestly at the time my loyalty aligned more towards him.
10:44 PM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
10:45 PM - BOT Harvey: Why do you think I got non-dilutable equity?
10:45 PM - BOT Harvey: Because I knew he'd go and issue himself more.
10:45 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm still lost on exactly what your deal was with Will, but again you're prob not gonna say because it's [CONFIDENTIAL]
10:45 PM - BOT Harvey: 20% non-dilutable for $5k + 10 months of assistance
10:46 PM - BOT Harvey: Of course his version of "assistance" means I do EVERYTHING and he does NOTHING.
10:46 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah.
10:46 PM - BOT Harvey: Thinking about reporting him to the university for having me do his homework.
10:46 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
10:47 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Wait so is that way you guys aren't steam friends anymore?
10:46 PM - BOT Harvey: I demanded to be paid a fair wage.
10:46 PM - BOT Harvey: He wanted me to work for $4k/month.
10:47 PM - BOT Harvey: Yeah....no.
10:47 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You did a lot of work not gonna lie.
10:47 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Like a lot.
10:47 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: More than you should have.
10:47 PM - BOT Harvey: Most of the staff hates Will as well.
10:47 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
10:48 PM - BOT Harvey: He's insanely paranoid as well.
10:49 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He fucken DDoS'd competing sites.
10:49 PM - BOT Harvey: Yeah I know.
10:49 PM - BOT Harvey: But my contract favors me, heavily.
10:49 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
10:50 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's good.
10:49 PM - BOT Harvey: Like he couldn't fire me.
10:51 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I mean I'm all for destroying the ass.
10:50 PM - BOT Harvey: He wants to put Justin into the place and underpay him as well.
10:51 PM - BOT Harvey: Difference between Justin and myself, I know how much CSGOShop can make, he doesn't.
10:51 PM - BOT Harvey: Or he doesn't seem to believe me.
10:52 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Who is Justin.
10:52 PM - BOT Harvey: Nevermind.
10:52 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Gotta be more open with knowledge if you want me to work with you.
10:53 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I can't be firing blindly.
10:52 PM - BOT Harvey: Another person who thinks he can do a better job than myself.
10:53 PM - BOT Harvey: That said, the selling account could easily be worth a lot of money.
10:53 PM - BOT Harvey: And it'd hurt the bottom line as it costs money.
10:54 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And what if Will finds out about it and does something?
10:54 PM - BOT Harvey: I'd get it in writing that it's mine.
10:54 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
10:54 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Can he remove seller access?
10:54 PM - BOT Harvey: Not if you have it in writing.
10:54 PM - BOT Harvey: So I'm exploring options.
10:55 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Well I'm definitely interested, but it'd have to be something more fair and something we can agree upon and I need to see some sort of proof or SOMETHING so I know I'm not being played in anyway.
10:55 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I move more than Samalex.
10:55 PM - BOT Harvey: I know what it's worth to Sam.
10:55 PM - BOT Harvey: Mostly because he works alone and I know his sales.
10:56 PM - BOT Harvey: And no, I wouldn't sell you a bad account.
10:56 PM - BOT Harvey: This is me.
10:56 PM - BOT Harvey: Not Will.
10:57 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Well personally I know you guys both to be cautionary in business, you because you're smarter than me and Will because he's a cunt.
10:57 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I have a nuclear bomb on Will.
10:57 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: A social media destroyer.
10:57 PM - BOT Harvey: I have one better.
10:57 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Recorded and everything.
10:57 PM - BOT Harvey: That would keep any seller from ever coming near him again.
10:57 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
10:57 PM - BOT Harvey: Pretty sure it's illegal as well.
10:58 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Tell me and I'll tell you mine.
10:58 PM - BOT Harvey: Mine's worse.
10:58 PM - BOT Harvey: For him anyway.
10:58 PM - BOT Harvey: And I'm still trying to sell my shit, so I can't give it out yet.
10:58 PM - BOT Harvey: :(
10:58 PM - BOT Harvey: Can't let him find out.
10:59 PM - BOT Harvey: But I have a picture of it all the same.
10:59 PM - BOT Harvey: xD
10:59 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Push comes to shove I can help move your shit, I can probably do it better.
10:59 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Will isn't my friend.
10:59 PM - BOT Harvey: My shit is equity in CSGOShop.
10:59 PM - BOT Harvey: No way you can sell it.
11:00 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Ahh.
11:00 PM - BOT Harvey: I do have $15k SCM of stuff.
11:00 PM - BOT Harvey: I'm holding it as collateral.
11:00 PM - BOT Harvey: He used one of my storage accounts to sell stuff on the Shop.
11:00 PM - BOT Harvey: He was constantly being a fuckface and then kicked my selling rights.
11:00 PM - BOT Harvey: I reset the SteamGuard on the account.
11:00 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
11:01 PM - BOT Harvey: Ooops.
11:01 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So what does that mean to him and you?
11:01 PM - BOT Harvey: That he came and demanded I give him back the stuff today.
11:01 PM - BOT Harvey: Not that I can until the SG ban is lifted.
11:02 PM - BOT Harvey: Holding it as collateral for paperwork.
11:02 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Sneaky.
11:02 PM - BOT Harvey: I also transferred all the documents from the site to people I could trust.
11:02 PM - BOT Harvey: Ones on my side, not his.
11:02 PM - BOT Harvey: Like those bot accounts.
11:04 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Ah.
11:04 PM - BOT Harvey: I do have something I do actually have rights to, even if I'm not an employee.
11:04 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
11:05 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Like what.
11:05 PM - BOT Harvey: Nothing that would matter to anyone.
11:05 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Why bring it up then :(
11:05 PM - BOT Harvey: Because it would matter to him.
11:05 PM - BOT Harvey: His homework I did.
11:05 PM - BOT Harvey: xD
11:06 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He's bad at school, right?
11:06 PM - BOT Harvey: He's lazy as fuck.
11:06 PM - BOT Harvey: And not very smart either.
11:06 PM - BOT Harvey: But that's not the point.
11:07 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Right, he cheated school.
11:06 PM - BOT Harvey: In high school, cheating just gets you an F on the assignment.
11:06 PM - BOT Harvey: In college/university, it gets you expelled.
11:07 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Is that your nuclear bomb?
11:07 PM - BOT Harvey: No.
11:07 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Wow lol.
11:07 PM - BOT Harvey: I have other stuff too.
11:07 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Rule #1: Don't fuck over people who have dirt on you.
11:07 PM - BOT Harvey: Some illegal, some not.
11:07 PM - BOT Harvey: I collect dirt on EVERYONE.
11:08 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm sorry I didn't say his plans sooner.
11:08 PM - BOT Harvey: Should have told me in April.
11:08 PM - BOT Harvey: :(
11:08 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: At the time you weren't my favorite person in the world and I still had this stupid loyalty to Will.
11:09 PM - BOT Harvey: Is your dirt the game he tried to rig?
11:09 PM - BOT Harvey: The Piter game?
11:09 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Na.
11:11 PM - BOT Harvey: Well at this point, I'm looking to maximize any assets I have left and then return to where the only person that can fuck me over is some douchebag hedgefund manager that is completely wrong and isn't getting his way on a given day.
11:12 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: If this acct is as secure as you say it is, I'm in.
11:12 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It has to be both beneficial to us though.
11:12 PM - BOT Harvey: If I had to, I'd lease it instead of sell.
11:12 PM - BOT Harvey: If I sold, it'd be high enough that it'd be a long term investment + a chance to fuck Will over.
11:13 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Leasing is probably better for the both of us.
11:13 PM - BOT Harvey: A least would probably get you 1/2 off.
11:14 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And that 5% matters.
11:13 PM - BOT Harvey: It'd come down the the specifics.
11:14 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: The wholesale game is all about percentages.
11:13 PM - BOT Harvey: And then whether you, Sam, or another buyer would pay the most.
11:14 PM - BOT Harvey: No matter how it goes, it'd go to fuck Will.
11:14 PM - BOT Harvey: I'd ask for more than one but that's pushing it.
11:14 PM - BOT Harvey: Don't want him to realize what I'm doing.
11:15 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I really suggest you do something like not offer it to multiple people. The winning bidder will get it, but who's to say Sam won't try to snitch or do something stupid?
11:15 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I don't want Sam knowing about this, I don't trust him very much.
11:15 PM - BOT Harvey: Will wouldn't give him shit for it.
11:15 PM - BOT Harvey: And I already asked him.
11:16 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: GG no re.
11:15 PM - BOT Harvey: Nope.
11:16 PM - BOT Harvey: Back when Sam got SR banned, I had his back though.
11:16 PM - BOT Harvey: And always helped whenever he asked.
11:19 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I could move a lot more if I could upload.
11:19 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: But he's been halting my business.
11:18 PM - BOT Harvey: Yup.
11:19 PM - BOT Harvey: I'll say, as a seller, have Nick and I always had your back?
11:20 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Nick the most, then you. You helped me but not without a bit of bitching lol
11:20 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: But yeah you guys did.
11:20 PM - BOT Harvey: You're an entitled snob.
11:20 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I can be.
11:20 PM - BOT Harvey: I do know Will's going to fire most of the staff if they won't work for his peanuts.
11:21 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's a given.
11:21 PM - BOT Harvey: The ONLY reason we didn't beat OPSkins was because Will cuts corners EVERYWHERE.
11:22 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Laziness.
11:21 PM - BOT Harvey: He's insanely cheap as well.
11:22 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He's asian.
11:22 PM - BOT Harvey: You remember how he wanted to blow like $4k/month to own a pro-team.
11:22 PM - BOT Harvey: But wouldn't spend on employee compensation.
11:22 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Lol what happeend with that? That team sucked ass.
11:22 PM - BOT Harvey: You saw that game?
11:23 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah.
11:23 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It was awful.
11:22 PM - BOT Harvey: The one with Joelz.
11:23 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah.
11:22 PM - BOT Harvey: They never even got paid.
11:23 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Were you the reason I got my fire check?
11:23 PM - BOT Harvey: He made a deal with an outside party who never forwarded payment.
11:23 PM - BOT Harvey: Yes.
11:23 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Thanks dude.
11:23 PM - BOT Harvey: Hey, if I say I'm going to do something, I do it.
11:23 PM - BOT Harvey: You never submitted a bill for skins you put through.
11:23 PM - BOT Harvey: skins you sent out for marketing*
11:25 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah I got lazy and I did a lot of trades after that and I figured it wasn't worth it.
11:25 PM - BOT Harvey: I would have paid it.
11:26 PM - BOT Harvey: I was the ONLY reason you guys weren't being forced to work for free.
11:29 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Well shit.
11:29 PM - BOT Harvey: Ask Nick how much of a fuckface Will is when it comes to paying them.
11:30 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I already know.
11:30 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: If it wasn't for Nick, I'd never get paid.
11:30 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: For selling on the site.
11:30 PM - BOT Harvey: I'd have done it.
11:30 PM - BOT Harvey: Just not on your "NOW NOW NOW GIVE ME NOW, DICKHEAD"
11:31 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: :(
11:30 PM - BOT Harvey: I had it done within a few hours.
11:30 PM - BOT Harvey: Sometimes faster.
11:31 PM - BOT Harvey: Depending on how busy I was.
11:32 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I guess I just got that way because I expected extra service, I admit that's not a good thing.
11:31 PM - BOT Harvey: Nope
11:32 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Because I was probably the #1 seller, I know I'm the #1 seller if it wasn't for Will shitting on me.
11:32 PM - BOT Harvey: I had planned on cutting you and the rest of the sellers for the Shop to sell for itself.
11:32 PM - BOT Harvey: Sam was a better seller.
11:32 PM - BOT Harvey: I was only going to cut you guys because we were all doing the same shit.
11:33 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That was before I expanded my operation.
11:33 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm pretty damn sure I can fill the shop up with everything it needs.
11:33 PM - BOT Harvey: Any three of us can.
11:33 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: With the connections I have now anywya.
11:33 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: anyway*
11:33 PM - BOT Harvey: We all have the same ones.
11:33 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yup.
11:33 PM - BOT Harvey: We're all doing the same shit, from the same people.
11:34 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Mhm.
11:34 PM - BOT Harvey: But as I said, any account I sell, I'd have to know how much you move so I can know how much it'd save you.
11:34 PM - BOT Harvey: I'd probably cut it down the middle.
11:34 PM - BOT Harvey: 50/50 split is fine with me.
11:35 PM - BOT Harvey: Saves you some, makes me some, and fucks Will in the ass.
11:35 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Why not just take a cut of the percentage then?
11:35 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Every cashout I give you 5%.
11:35 PM - BOT Harvey: Cash up front is always better.
11:36 PM - BOT Harvey: I wouldn't take PP, I'd be taking a wire transfer.
11:36 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That can probably be arranged, as I have a business paypal and everything.
11:36 PM - BOT Harvey: PayPal can't do wires.
11:36 PM - BOT Harvey: You'd have to do it from your own bank account.
11:37 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I know, but connecting a bank to the business acct, then I could.
11:36 PM - BOT Harvey: Ah
11:37 PM - BOT Harvey: First I'd have to see if I could keep the account.
11:37 PM - BOT Harvey: or if Will's going to bitch out on that as well.
11:37 PM - BOT Harvey: As I'll likely sell my equity also.
11:38 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Ah.
11:37 PM - BOT Harvey: I have a possible buyer and I can make a lot more money in options.
11:38 PM - BOT Harvey: $10k can easily be $30k in a month.
11:38 PM - BOT Harvey: $100k in 2.
11:38 PM - BOT Harvey: I have a friend offering to put up some money with mine.
11:38 PM - BOT Harvey: See where shit goes.
11:38 PM - BOT Harvey: If it does well, he'd get more in and pull in a few friends.
11:39 PM - BOT Harvey: The offer was for May but he's always looking to toss some pocket change into shit.
11:39 PM - BOT Harvey: Could probably get him to go for it again.
11:40 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: A pyramid scheme?
11:39 PM - BOT Harvey: He gave me $4k to manage on the FB IPO and we both lost hard.
11:39 PM - BOT Harvey: I lost $3k and he lost $3.8k.
11:40 PM - BOT Harvey: But hey, we both knew it was a dice roll.
11:40 PM - BOT Harvey: No pyramid scheme, financial trading.
11:41 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Read it wrong my bad.
Tuesday, August 18, 2015
12:08 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Away.
1:39 AM - BOT Harvey: How much do you really make on your own?
4:13 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
4:14 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Around 20k a month.
4:14 AM - BOT Harvey: Profit?
4:14 AM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
4:14 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Profit.
4:15 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Aren't you guys making scads of cash at CSGOShop?
4:15 AM - BOT Harvey: Jon make the same?
4:15 AM - BOT Harvey: I assumed around $500k/together
4:16 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It wouldn't be fair of me to say his income, but it's around that margin yeah.
4:15 AM - BOT Harvey: Sooo dumb.
4:16 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What? :{
4:16 AM - BOT Harvey: Not you
4:16 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What then?
4:16 AM - BOT Harvey: That there's THAT much money in CSGO
4:16 AM - BOT Harvey: Do you make more at CSGOShop or at OPSkins?
4:17 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: There's room for everyone, it's just people lately have been stepping out of line and stepping on people's toes.
4:17 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: CSGOShop has better margins, OPSkins sells 1000% faster.
4:17 AM - BOT Harvey: But uploading one item at a time must BLOW
4:17 AM - BOT Harvey: Even with a bot to do it.
4:18 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Of course it does, I hired someone to work for me to upload.
4:18 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: "Item Management"
4:19 AM - BOT Harvey: What are you going to do in a few weeks when you are back in school?
4:19 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm not going to school anymore.
4:19 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Well public HS.
4:19 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'll still continue homeschool.
4:19 AM - BOT Harvey: :/
4:19 AM - BOT Harvey: What about Jon?
4:20 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I don't want to end up like Will.
4:19 AM - BOT Harvey: Or is he staying where he is?
4:20 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Addicted to adderal because he has too much on his plate and ends up doing nothing.
4:20 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He's staying where he is.
4:20 AM - BOT Harvey: Wanna help me join in?
4:20 AM - BOT Harvey: :)
4:20 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Join in what?
4:20 AM - BOT Harvey: You guys.
4:21 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: How could you be of service?
4:20 AM - BOT Harvey: Help optimize your stuff?
4:20 AM - BOT Harvey: :)
4:21 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Hmm.
4:21 AM - BOT Harvey: Book keeping?
4:21 AM - BOT Harvey: Will's utterly hellbent against me.
4:21 AM - BOT Harvey: All because I don't bend over backwards for him at every turn.
4:22 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You used to though.
4:21 AM - BOT Harvey: Done doing it.
4:22 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Good call.
4:22 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Outlay everything possible you could be of use to our business, and I'll talk with Jon.
4:22 AM - BOT Harvey: If I told you how upsurd it is you'd faceplam.
4:23 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Upsurd?
4:22 AM - BOT Harvey: What are you guys missing?
4:23 AM - BOT Harvey: absurd*
4:23 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Lately drive.
4:23 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm going through some personal stuff and he's not been very happy either about stuff either.
4:23 AM - BOT Harvey: I'd be happy to take over most of it for now, and you guys sit back and do nothing.
4:24 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What's the catch?
4:24 AM - BOT Harvey: I don't work for free.
4:24 AM - BOT Harvey: But we both know I will work like a dog.
4:25 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: For sure. I wouldn't have thought you'd be so generous, so what would you want.
4:25 AM - BOT Harvey: Depends on what all you guys do, how many hours a day you each currently wokr
4:25 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I have a few business model ideas in the works.
4:25 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: If anything, you'd help drive that to success.
4:25 AM - BOT Harvey: You busy tonight?
4:25 AM - BOT Harvey: I'm happy to listen to some pitches.
4:26 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I have some work to do and I kinda wanted to play CSGO to decompress, again not the best state but still truckin through.
4:26 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Dishes and shit.
4:26 AM - BOT Harvey: Haha.
4:27 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And will's constant pecking at me has driven me nuts.
4:27 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: First it's don't upload too much even though for the most part I pack variety, yet he lets some guy clog the system with keys.
4:27 AM - BOT Harvey: Yeah I saw that.
4:27 AM - BOT Harvey: I warned him 3 times about getting the listings fixed.
4:27 AM - BOT Harvey: He skipped out on 1,000 items because of it.
4:28 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I couldn't upload for several days, and when I could, he strips my rights from the employee acct.
4:28 AM - BOT Harvey: Employee account?
4:29 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I told you I have someone who works for me putting up skins.
4:28 AM - BOT Harvey: Which one?
4:28 AM - BOT Harvey: Dogs, Teeird, Penis, Squirrel
4:29 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Squirrel. Penis isn't me.
4:29 AM - BOT Harvey: Right after you posted a few, I did that.
4:29 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Her favorite animal is a squirrel.
4:29 AM - BOT Harvey: Because I told Nick to inform you of just one account.
4:30 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: The real reason was to bypass a 7 day wait from steam guard.
4:30 AM - BOT Harvey: Unless he did it again
4:30 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He did it again.
4:30 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: First time I told him and I said it glitched and he fixed, then he rekt me.
4:30 AM - BOT Harvey: First time was actually me.
4:31 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I've been uploading great easy sells on the site too, not keys that clog.
4:31 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah I know now.
4:30 AM - BOT Harvey: I removed it because each additional account makes the post accounting THAT much harder.
4:31 AM - BOT Harvey: And you already had 2 accounts.
4:32 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It was more convienient for me. If I could I'd just use the dogs one no sweat.
4:32 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: But again, wanted to bypass steam guard.
4:32 AM - BOT Harvey: He's been almost as bad to me.
4:32 AM - BOT Harvey: Worse actually.
4:32 AM - BOT Harvey: Not even my fault.
4:32 AM - BOT Harvey: It's simply him being lazy and it catching up to him.
4:33 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Explain some of his stuff? Besides the laziness we both know that.
4:33 AM - BOT Harvey: Lazy, greedy, arrogant, bloated ego, pretty dumb.
4:33 AM - BOT Harvey: He seems to have little to no business experience.
4:33 AM - BOT Harvey: He lies a lot.
4:34 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I probably have better business experience.
4:34 AM - BOT Harvey: I mean, you're a dirty jew, and you lie less than he does.
4:34 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I treat my employees and my busienss partners with great respect.
4:34 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And business associates.
4:34 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I may joke and stuff, but I'm not malicious.
4:34 AM - BOT Harvey: You're just annoying.
4:35 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: .|..
4:34 AM - BOT Harvey: Hahaha.
4:35 AM - BOT Harvey: How about tomorrow (or today), you give me your business layout and see what I can optimize.
4:35 AM - BOT Harvey: Do you and Jon have a formal partnership?
4:36 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'd need some kind of NDA.
4:35 AM - BOT Harvey: Or is it just a handshake?
4:36 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It's handshake right now, but we're working on getting our LLC.
4:36 AM - BOT Harvey: Not bad.
4:36 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: We've been through thick and thin, we both trust eachother.
4:36 AM - BOT Harvey: The only issue with an LLC is retained earnings.
4:36 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I've seen his worst and he's seen mine, and we were always cool.
4:37 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: We've never fought once actually.
4:37 AM - BOT Harvey: You wouldn't believe me if I told you how many times I told Will, "Would you just come and we can work something out?"
4:37 AM - BOT Harvey: Only to see him say, "Fuck off."
4:37 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Woah.
4:37 AM - BOT Harvey: Or agree to something and never follow through.
4:38 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yo real quick though.
4:38 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Gotta clear something up.
4:38 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You told Jon to ditch me and go pro, what the fuck was that about?
4:38 AM - BOT Harvey: On what?
4:38 AM - BOT Harvey: Trading?
4:38 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Our business we formed. One of the times you guys spoke, you advised him to ditch me and for him to go pro with his skillset.
4:38 AM - BOT Harvey: Pro at what?
4:38 AM - BOT Harvey: Financial trading?
4:39 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Term of speech, you meant "the next level"
4:39 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I assumed yeah.
4:39 AM - BOT Harvey: Yeah because I thought you guys made a LOT less than you do.
4:39 AM - BOT Harvey: Those numbers, I'd stay with what you have.
4:39 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I turned into a fucking work horse.
4:40 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: But you know why? Because I'm in a good environment.
4:40 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I wasn't lied to about getting shares.
4:40 AM - BOT Harvey: I thought you guy were only making like $70k/each.
4:40 AM - BOT Harvey: At those numbers he might have been better off going into financial trading.
4:40 AM - BOT Harvey: Real trading anyway.
4:40 AM - BOT Harvey: But if you guys are doing well at reselling, then I'd stay with it.
4:40 AM - BOT Harvey: Unless you're facing burnout.
4:40 AM - BOT Harvey: Which does happen.
4:41 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: We'll always stay afloat, we adapt.
4:41 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Which is why I have a bunch of startups in mind, I have to find new things to profit off of because this faucet is running dry.
4:41 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I've been feeling it for the past month.
4:42 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Shit just kept declining, but it's because so much was injected at a cheap price because it's 100% profit to community sites.
4:42 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So they simply don't care what to sell it for just as it's sold.
4:42 AM - BOT Harvey: It's too bad you're not a bit older.
4:43 AM - BOT Harvey: :/
4:43 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It really is.
4:43 AM - BOT Harvey: I'd really say go into financial trading.
4:43 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I want to.
4:43 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I want to get into real estate too.
4:43 AM - BOT Harvey: Real estate is awful.
4:44 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Traditional solid investment plans.
4:43 AM - BOT Harvey: Unless you do commercial.
4:44 AM - BOT Harvey: Real estate is NOT a sold investment plan.
4:44 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You're smarter than me and I learned so much from working with you.
4:44 AM - BOT Harvey: Housing is a fucking money pit.
4:44 AM - BOT Harvey: It's a black hole you throw money into you never want to see again.
4:44 AM - BOT Harvey: If you really wanna go with real estate, I'd look at REIT's.
4:45 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: https://www.reit.com/
4:45 AM - BOT Harvey: Same exposure and returns, none of the management headache, and instant liquidity on exchanges.
4:45 AM - BOT Harvey: Real Estate Investment Trust
4:45 AM - BOT Harvey: Holding's corporation for real estate.
4:45 AM - BOT Harvey: It holds tons of pieces on the market.
4:46 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/reit.asp so taht then?
4:46 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Bookmarked.
4:45 AM - BOT Harvey: Then hires someone to manage the properties.
4:46 AM - BOT Harvey: Yes.
4:46 AM - BOT Harvey: Investopedia is your best friend.
4:46 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I could probably have learned so much more if I gave a shit about my education.
4:46 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Only about 4 months ago I started giving a shit.
4:46 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Now I'm just a knowledge soaker.
4:46 AM - BOT Harvey: Not really.
4:46 AM - BOT Harvey: You don't learn this in high school.
4:47 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah.
4:47 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I wanted to go to HS for the experience but I kinda outgrew that old dream.
4:47 AM - BOT Harvey: You can't but Jon could.
4:47 AM - BOT Harvey: Give financial trading a spin.
4:47 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: The people there are pretty much dumbasses, I go to the gym with a lot of them.
4:48 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I can in 8 months -.o
4:47 AM - BOT Harvey: Long ways away.
4:47 AM - BOT Harvey: xD
4:48 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'll learn in the meantime.
4:48 AM - BOT Harvey: I spent 6 months learning.
4:48 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: This year has been going by so fast though.
4:49 AM - BOT Harvey: How much of your money do you spend?
4:49 AM - BOT Harvey: Lots or almost none?
4:50 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Lately I've spent more, but it's usually me buying food for family or helping pay for bills, or helping pay for shit we need, or going on dates.
4:50 AM - BOT Harvey: Date. :'(
4:51 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah well probably not anymore.
4:51 AM - BOT Harvey: At CSGO SlaveShop there was no time for dates.
4:51 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Too many red flags popped up :(
4:51 AM - BOT Harvey: With the girl?
4:51 AM - BOT Harvey: Or on you?
4:51 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah.
4:51 AM - BOT Harvey: Haha.
4:52 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Brb gotta go to the ATM.
4:51 AM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
4:52 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Gotta pay for gas so my bro can go to his  bruh.
4:52 AM - BOT Harvey: Haha
4:52 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: can go to his job*
4:52 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: sorry.
4:52 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Well brb.
5:16 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
5:16 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Sorry I took so long.
5:18 AM - BOT Harvey: It's all good.
5:18 AM - BOT Harvey: Had to brush my teeth.
5:18 AM - BOT Harvey: Anyway, I don't need an NDA or anything.
5:18 AM - BOT Harvey: We both know I'm not going to speak on anything.
5:19 AM - BOT Harvey: Hey I kept your secret of that fixed game.
5:19 AM - BOT Harvey: Going to bed soon?
5:32 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
5:33 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I went to shower and brush my teeth too.
5:33 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: We can discuss in the morning, when Jon is awake.
5:33 AM - BOT Harvey: Works for me.
5:33 AM - BOT Harvey: Time?
5:33 AM - BOT Harvey: Just trying to keep on schedule.
5:33 AM - BOT Harvey: :)
5:34 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Not quite sure. I'll talk to him first thing in the morning about it then we can work a time.
5:33 AM - BOT Harvey: Ok.
5:34 AM - BOT Harvey: Send me a message here or on Skype.
5:34 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Cuz I don't always know his schedule, you know?
5:34 AM - BOT Harvey: Haha
5:34 AM - BOT Harvey: Better yet, not here.
5:34 AM - BOT Harvey: Skype me.
5:34 AM - BOT Harvey: Steam likes to forget to notify me.
5:34 AM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
5:35 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: ID again?
5:34 AM - BOT Harvey: markatcsgoshop
5:34 AM - BOT Harvey: Should probably change that.
5:34 AM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
5:35 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Make a new skype.
5:35 AM - BOT Harvey: Yeah I'll do it later.
5:35 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: IDs can't change afaik.
5:35 AM - BOT Harvey: Nope
5:35 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So yeah we'll see what happens. How've you been in life?
5:35 AM - BOT Harvey: I work and nothing else.
5:36 AM - BOT Harvey: Play some games and TV but nothing else.
5:36 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: If things do work out between us, I want you to have a life as well.
5:36 AM - BOT Harvey: I'd like that.
5:36 AM - BOT Harvey: Will believes everyone is his slave.
5:37 AM - BOT Harvey: He'd message Nick at 4 am local when he's trying to sleep, asking him to do his (Will's) work.
5:37 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah he might have some god complex.
5:37 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah my work environment is much different.
5:37 AM - BOT Harvey: Everyone else's is.
5:38 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I like to think my workforce is my second family.
5:37 AM - BOT Harvey: I tried to get to know all of our staff.
5:38 AM - BOT Harvey: And yet when I say I put my employees before myself, Will said, "You don't give to fucks about them"
5:38 AM - BOT Harvey: Or something like that.
5:38 AM - BOT Harvey: :/
5:38 AM - BOT Harvey: two*
5:39 AM - BOT Harvey: When are you going to bed anyway?
5:40 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Probably within 20 minutes or something, you?
5:39 AM - BOT Harvey: No idea.
5:40 AM - BOT Harvey: Probably won't.
5:40 AM - BOT Harvey: Too much crap to work out in the next day or two.
5:40 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Like what?
5:42 AM - BOT Harvey: Selling my equity, dealing with Will, picking my nose.
5:42 AM - BOT Harvey: The last one will take a few hours.
5:42 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Lol got it.
5:42 AM - BOT Harvey: Nah, I just have crap to finish up.
5:42 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: How do you guys communicate, email?
5:42 AM - BOT Harvey: Who?
5:43 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You and Will.
5:42 AM - BOT Harvey: Now.
5:42 AM - BOT Harvey: He cut my access to Slack off yesterday.
5:43 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: How's it feel? :P
5:43 AM - BOT Harvey: Tired of him?
5:43 AM - BOT Harvey: And his bullshit?
5:43 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: For sure.
5:44 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I bet he's making scads of cash, fucking people over is his career.
5:43 AM - BOT Harvey: Just about.
5:44 AM - BOT Harvey: He has no real skills or knowledge.
5:44 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I need to get my 9.5k out of TF2shop.
5:44 AM - BOT Harvey: He's going to get out into the real world and be fucked one of these days.
5:45 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: His problem is he burns bridges.
5:44 AM - BOT Harvey: He burns cities.
5:44 AM - BOT Harvey: Not bridges.
5:45 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You know what I mean.
5:45 AM - BOT Harvey: I think the guy buying my shit will end up getting fucked as well.
5:45 AM - BOT Harvey: But not my problem.
5:45 AM - BOT Harvey: He's buying it dirt cheap anyway.
5:46 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Dirt cheap?
5:45 AM - BOT Harvey: Wayyyyyy too low.
5:45 AM - BOT Harvey: But I don't really feel like dealing with Will.
5:46 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Will is paying him peanuts or what?
5:46 AM - BOT Harvey: He's offering barely more than myself.
5:46 AM - BOT Harvey: He offered me $4k/month.
5:46 AM - BOT Harvey: Except he'd want me to work every hour of the day.
5:46 AM - BOT Harvey: I said never.
5:47 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And you'd cash out your equity in the company?
5:46 AM - BOT Harvey: I'd be done.
5:47 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So he basically wanted to jew you out of your original shares and give you a fucked flat rate pay?
5:47 AM - BOT Harvey: Not selling to Will.
5:47 AM - BOT Harvey: That would come with nasty agreements.
5:48 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Who are you selling to then?
5:48 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Justin?
5:47 AM - BOT Harvey: Yup
5:48 AM - BOT Harvey: I maintain my non-compete and can do whatever I want afterward.
5:48 AM - BOT Harvey: :)
5:48 AM - BOT Harvey: my no non-compete*
5:48 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You should explain to me in detail what caused folley, so I can see to prevent that should we work together.
5:49 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What non-compete?
5:48 AM - BOT Harvey: No non-compete.
5:48 AM - BOT Harvey: I never had one.
5:48 AM - BOT Harvey: Everyone else did.
5:48 AM - BOT Harvey: I didn't.
5:49 AM - BOT Harvey: I must have thought I'd never need it.
5:50 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Ah.
5:49 AM - BOT Harvey: And what screwed it up was easy: Will refuses to value people for what they're worth.
5:50 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So you can get off scott free.
5:49 AM - BOT Harvey: Exactly.
5:50 AM - BOT Harvey: If I stay, I would get stuck into a new contract with a non-compete.
5:50 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And get commercially fucked.
5:50 AM - BOT Harvey: You know Will would demand it be written so I never get paid.
5:53 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Probably.
5:53 AM - BOT Harvey: As long as I get paid a fair price for my time and effort, I'm happy as can be.
5:54 AM - BOT Harvey: Anyway, just send me a message when you and Jon can figure out what time works for you.
5:54 AM - BOT Harvey: I think I'm going to get some sleep.
5:55 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Alright Mark, good talking with you, have a good night.
5:55 AM - BOT Harvey: Night Bravo.
3:24 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
3:43 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Hey.
3:47 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You there, Mark?
4:28 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Away.
4:46 PM - BOT Harvey: I am now.
4:50 PM - BOT Harvey: Sorry I ended up sleeping most of the day.
4:50 PM - BOT Harvey: I woke up a few times waiting for messages but got nothing.
5:29 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
5:30 PM - BOT Harvey: Hey
5:30 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yo.
5:31 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Gotta go have a quick business lunch, I'll be back in an hour or so.
5:31 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I spoke to Jonathan and we can set up a meeting pretty much whenever.
5:30 PM - BOT Harvey: Ok
5:31 PM - BOT Harvey: How about tonight.
5:31 PM - BOT Harvey: 2 hours work for you guys?
5:31 PM - BOT Harvey: 2 hours from now*
5:32 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm going to the gym at 3:30, coming back probably at 530 or 6, we can do it then probably.
5:32 PM - BOT Harvey: Alright.
5:32 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Gonna squat 3 plates today :O
6:19 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
6:57 PM - Your state is set to Offline.
6:57 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Offline.
6:57 PM - Lost connection to Steam, will rejoin chat automatically when connection regained.
7:05 PM - Connected again and rejoined chat.
7:13 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Away.
7:55 PM - BOT Harvey: Make it 9:30/6:30 EST/PST
9:08 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Snooze.
9:34 PM - BOT Harvey: Bravo?
9:37 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
9:38 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Hey.
9:38 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Just got back from the gym, long ass leg day.
9:38 PM - BOT Harvey: Haha.
9:38 PM - BOT Harvey: I'm fat.
9:38 PM - BOT Harvey: :(
9:38 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What's your weight?
9:38 PM - BOT Harvey: I need to lose like 15 pounds.
9:38 PM - BOT Harvey: 165 @ 5'6
9:39 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I gained like 7lbs out of now where. I don't know whether my legs blew up, or my eating habits got shit.
9:39 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Probably a bit of both.
9:39 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm 185lbs, decent muscle and still rocking a bit of fat.
9:40 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Start doing some HIIT and basic weight training.
9:40 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's how I lost weight.
9:40 PM - BOT Harvey: I lost weight when I was your age.
9:40 PM - BOT Harvey: A year after actually.
9:40 PM - BOT Harvey: First year of college.
9:40 PM - BOT Harvey: 155->135
9:43 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Not bad, what did you do?
9:43 PM - BOT Harvey: Run 5 miles a day + 1,000 stairs + 200 crunches + 200 pushups.
9:43 PM - BOT Harvey: Then 10 miles once a week.
9:43 PM - BOT Harvey: Lost 20 pounds in 5 months.
9:44 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: How many times did you do that per week?
9:44 PM - BOT Harvey: Do what?
9:44 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: All that.
9:44 PM - BOT Harvey: The ten miles was in place of the 5 miles once a week.
9:44 PM - BOT Harvey: The rest, everyday.
9:45 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Cardio everyday isn't great for you.
9:45 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It'll make you lose weight but it's not good overtime.
9:45 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Fucks your heart up.
9:45 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: 2-4 times a week is fine.
9:45 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: 3 is the sweet spot.
9:45 PM - BOT Harvey: Only ify ou run hard.
9:45 PM - BOT Harvey: I wasn't running hard.
9:46 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That explains it.
9:45 PM - BOT Harvey: It was running + jogging + walking
9:46 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I go really hard when I do cardio.
9:45 PM - BOT Harvey: I don't.
9:46 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I usually do some form of HIIT.
9:46 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I should be doing cardio 3 times a week, I barely do it once a week :(
9:46 PM - BOT Harvey: Haha.
9:46 PM - BOT Harvey: You should snowboard.
9:46 PM - BOT Harvey: If your legs are that good.
9:47 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: My legs are definitely top 10% at my gym.
9:47 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I beat any of the kids my age.
9:47 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Only guys who top me are the adults who've been going for 3-5+ years.
9:47 PM - BOT Harvey: Meh.
9:48 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: My legs are my best muscle, then it's my back.
9:48 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Chest is probably the weakest :( but I've been maxing like crazy to get it up to par.
9:48 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: For the longest time I never maxed chest and that fucked me overtime.
9:49 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I stuck at 135-155 for the longest time. Now my max is 195lbs.
9:49 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I need to hit 225lbs / 2 plates.
9:49 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: As long as I can crank out 2-4 reps at 225lbs by the end of the year, I'll be happy.
9:49 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Guh I'm such a gym nerd
9:51 PM - BOT Harvey: rat*
9:52 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Ya,
9:53 PM - BOT Harvey: Just let me know when you and Jon are good.
9:55 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Okay, sorry I keep stalling I just always have a bunch on my plate.
9:54 PM - BOT Harvey: No, it's fine.
9:55 PM - BOT Harvey: This was unplanned so I understand.
9:58 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Jonathan seems to be away.
9:58 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I need to text my friend right now anyway I told her I'd text her after the gym.
10:28 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
10:31 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I just converted my romantic interest into my FWB, booyah.
10:31 PM - BOT Harvey: Don't you mean, "Booty yah"?
10:32 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Oh yeah.
10:32 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Her ass is insane.
10:32 PM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
10:32 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: KEK
10:32 PM - BOT Harvey: I have no girlfriend.
10:32 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm ready whenever Jon gets back.
10:32 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I want to help you get one.
10:32 PM - BOT Harvey: That would be like trying to lead a fish in the ocean to water.
10:32 PM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
10:33 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah, I have a decent track record of making miracles happening.
10:33 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: happen*
10:33 PM - BOT Harvey: Almost feel like saying screw it and releasing shit on Will.
10:34 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Do it.
10:34 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Unleash holy hell.
10:34 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I have no respect for people who fuck over others to get ahead.
10:34 PM - BOT Harvey: Oh it's a lot worse than that.
10:35 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I assume so.
10:35 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Is it the kind of, if released, he's GG?
10:42 PM - BOT Harvey: It's the kind where major sellers wouldn't trust him ever again.
10:42 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Does he steal items when items just go *missing*?
10:42 PM - BOT Harvey: Items never went "missing".
10:42 PM - BOT Harvey: They were either sold or were in the bots.
10:43 PM - BOT Harvey: are/were*
10:44 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I know, I'm just using the lingo sellers use.
10:44 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Should I be worried? I mean I sell there.
10:45 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm probably his biggest seller when he's not trying to fuck me over with space.
10:46 PM - BOT Harvey: Can't find a screenshot of it. :'(
10:46 PM - BOT Harvey: It's there though, because I took it at one point.
10:46 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Can you say the gist of it?
10:46 PM - BOT Harvey: I can tell you exactly what he said.
10:46 PM - BOT Harvey: It's just proving he said it.
10:47 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Sure.
10:47 PM - BOT Harvey: http://puu.sh/hSmmF/9d479a212b.jpg
10:47 PM - BOT Harvey: Hahaha
10:47 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: XD
10:50 PM - BOT Harvey: I feel like that a lot of the time.
10:51 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You get drunk often?
10:51 PM - BOT Harvey: I haven't had a drink in like 2 years.
10:51 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Fuckin drink some, spice up your life dude.
10:51 PM - BOT Harvey: Actually 2 years in....3 days
10:56 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Sooo you gonna tell me what Will said?
11:01 PM - BOT Harvey: I'll wait until I sell my stuff.
11:01 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
11:03 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: -_-
11:03 PM - BOT Harvey: He's bitched out on the no commissions account too.
11:03 PM - BOT Harvey: I don't have enough direct proof for that.
11:04 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Stop bringing it up then, like if this is something I should be worried about, I'd like to know.
11:04 PM - BOT Harvey: You don't keep enough money in there to worry about.
11:04 PM - BOT Harvey: Or items at that.
11:05 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I have multiple thousands in there.
11:05 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's enough to cause concern. I'm even worried about my old TF2Shop balance.
11:05 PM - BOT Harvey: $5k, in the grand scheme of things, isn't that much to be honest.
11:05 PM - BOT Harvey: It's a week's pay.
11:05 PM - BOT Harvey: Not saying it is nothing, just isn't THAT much.
11:06 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It's still money that's vulnerable.
11:06 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: If it was a few hundred or so I'd understand.
11:08 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You said you were gonna tell me ;s
11:09 PM - BOT Harvey: I gotta make sure I get something first.
11:09 PM - BOT Harvey: I worked for 6+ months and didn't get a paycheck, remember.
11:10 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Wait so you never got paid? Only Will?
11:10 PM - BOT Harvey: Will didn't officially have a paycheck but...
11:11 PM - BOT Harvey: Probably shouldn't have said that second part.
11:12 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: At this point we're shit buddies, we both have shit on eachother we both wouldn't want leaked, it's collateral.
11:14 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It makes sense for us to at least be on good terms so nothing bad happens. I don't like shitting on people, not when it's undeserved.
11:14 PM - BOT Harvey: Nobody has anything on me.
11:14 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
11:15 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Okay dude.
11:15 PM - BOT Harvey: I avoid doing bad stuff.
11:16 PM - BOT Harvey: As long as you treat me fairly, I don't have any reason to do anything bad to you.
11:17 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
11:18 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I've been working on being better to people.
11:18 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I see how it is when people treat you like shit or act like they're top flight, it's not fun.
11:24 PM - BOT Harvey: If you make $1M, it's not that big of a deal to lose $250k if it means someone else has a much better life.
11:24 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What do you mean?
11:24 PM - BOT Harvey: Nothing.
11:25 PM - BOT Harvey: Essentially: don't be stupid greedy
11:25 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Well yeah. Treat people who help make you rich with great care and respect, that's obvious.
11:27 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I guess not so obvious because look at how greedy community sites are...
11:39 PM - BOT Harvey: Does Jon have Will time too?
11:39 PM - BOT Harvey: :P
11:40 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Not really. Sometimes he doesn't do stuff but that's only because he's doing other things for the business.
11:40 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So it's fine.
11:40 PM - BOT Harvey: I just meant because he's not here.
11:40 PM - BOT Harvey: :P
11:40 PM - BOT Harvey: Small joke.
11:41 PM - BOT Harvey: NOBODY is as bad as Will.
11:41 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Heh.
11:41 PM - BOT Harvey: Artur's better than Will.
11:41 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What does he do with his time?
11:41 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Artur used to be down to earth, before his site blew up.
11:42 PM - BOT Harvey: No idea.
11:42 PM - BOT Harvey: But Artur puts in more time than Will.
11:42 PM - BOT Harvey: I know that much.
11:43 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Stay busy even if you're making hella money.
11:42 PM - BOT Harvey: Yup.
11:43 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Getting lazy sucks so much.
11:43 PM - BOT Harvey: Dude I need to get practice with stocks again.
11:43 PM - BOT Harvey: Volatility levels are SOOOOOOOO fucking low.
11:43 PM - BOT Harvey: They've been low too long.
11:43 PM - BOT Harvey: It's why I came to Steam last year.
11:44 PM - BOT Harvey: The longer they're steady, the less likely they are to stay that way.
11:44 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Ah.
11:44 PM - BOT Harvey: http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/02/investing/stocks-market-bond-volatility/
11:45 PM - BOT Harvey: I looked at the 1 year chart for a lot of bit name stocks and they've had like 2 decent moves in the past year.
11:45 PM - BOT Harvey: Google, for example, 1.
11:46 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So stocks being calm is a good or bad thing?
11:45 PM - BOT Harvey: 4 years ago when I started, they had them every week.
11:46 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I guess with stocks it's both good and bad, depends how you play.
11:46 PM - BOT Harvey: Calm is predictable but the problem is, statistics say calm doesn't last.
11:46 PM - BOT Harvey: There are calm periods, and there are volatile periods.
11:46 PM - BOT Harvey: It's been calm for a long time.
11:46 PM - BOT Harvey: Calm sucks as there's not short term money to be made.
11:46 PM - BOT Harvey: Everything is in long term bets.
11:47 PM - BOT Harvey: I'm not a long term investor.
11:47 PM - BOT Harvey: Not very good at it.
11:47 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Rapid short term?
11:47 PM - BOT Harvey: Rapid?
11:47 PM - BOT Harvey: I trade on daily information.
11:47 PM - BOT Harvey: A few days at the most.
11:48 PM - BOT Harvey: Timing is everything and if you are a pussy, you'll get run over.
11:49 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Those addicted csgojackpotters should put their money in that business and learn up.
11:49 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: They have the balls for it.
11:49 PM - BOT Harvey: They're not smart enough.
11:49 PM - BOT Harvey: They'd be going up against Ivy League people and PhD's.
11:49 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Hence learn up.
11:49 PM - BOT Harvey: Most good traders can spit out math answers without even trying.
11:50 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Such as?
11:50 PM - BOT Harvey: What is the square root of 17,956
11:51 PM - BOT Harvey: You have 1 minute, no calculator, or paper/pencil
11:51 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I know the square root of 49... kek
11:51 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's not really fair.
11:51 PM - BOT Harvey: Yes it is.
11:51 PM - BOT Harvey: There are math tricks if you're smart enough.
11:51 PM - BOT Harvey: 10,000 is 100
11:52 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm aware.
11:51 PM - BOT Harvey: So it's more than that.
11:51 PM - BOT Harvey: 200 is 40k
11:51 PM - BOT Harvey: So it's less than that
11:52 PM - BOT Harvey: 150 is 22500 so it's less than that
11:52 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Hmm, so it'd be around 130??
11:52 PM - BOT Harvey: 134
11:52 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I probably goofed.
11:52 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Oh.
11:52 PM - BOT Harvey: 13*13 = 169
11:53 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Ya.
11:53 PM - BOT Harvey: So if you know 13*13 = 169, then 13*13*10= 16,900 and you work from there
11:53 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And what happens when it's not an integer but a decimal?
11:53 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: No one is that precise.
11:53 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: They'd use rounding.
11:53 PM - BOT Harvey: They wouldn't give one that doesn't come to a whole number.
11:54 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Thank god.
11:54 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I fuckin hate decimal square root answers.
11:54 PM - BOT Harvey: They're trying to test your reasoning skills, background knowledge of math, and calculating abilities.
11:54 PM - BOT Harvey: They don't expect you to be a human calculator though.
11:54 PM - BOT Harvey: Or something like, what is 98*98
11:55 PM - BOT Harvey: That's just an easy example though.
11:55 PM - BOT Harvey: These are for intern and starting positions, mind you.
11:55 PM - BOT Harvey: Not real trading.
11:56 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Are square roots used in trading?
11:56 PM - BOT Harvey: Not really.
11:56 PM - BOT Harvey: Volatility is a square root of the variance
11:56 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What's the most used? Percentages? Arithmatic?
11:56 PM - BOT Harvey: But not a lot other than that.
11:56 PM - BOT Harvey: Not sure.
11:56 PM - BOT Harvey: For me, change.
11:57 PM - BOT Harvey: Measured as a percentile.
11:57 PM - BOT Harvey: But you have to know how to calculate cost and everything else.
11:57 PM - BOT Harvey: I made programs to do all that shit.
11:57 PM - BOT Harvey: I could do it by hand but it's a waste of time and takes too long on the fly.
11:57 PM - BOT Harvey: So you do it with spreadsheets or programs you make.
11:58 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Spreadsheets are so fucking cheaty.
11:58 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: They're too useful.
11:58 PM - BOT Harvey: Not really.
11:58 PM - BOT Harvey: It's how you track the data.
11:59 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And data is everything!
11:58 PM - BOT Harvey: And they provide a simple UI to work with the data.
11:58 PM - BOT Harvey: simple, yet highly effective UI*
11:59 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Do you use excel or sheets?
11:59 PM - BOT Harvey: OpenOffice Calc
11:59 PM - BOT Harvey: Can't import the data to sheets for the data platform I use.
11:59 PM - BOT Harvey: It has the best data out there at my favorite cost: free
Wednesday, August 19, 2015
12:00 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Cool, didn't even know I had this.
12:00 AM - BOT Harvey: Had what?
12:00 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Calc.
12:00 AM - BOT Harvey: Yup.
12:00 AM - BOT Harvey: It can import data in real time through a socket in Windows.
12:01 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: They're pretty much the same too. I learned some stuff on the fly about excel just by using sheets knowledge.
12:00 AM - BOT Harvey: They differ in a few fine points.
12:01 AM - BOT Harvey: Some function names, comma vs semicolon.
12:01 AM - BOT Harvey: And a handful of others.
12:01 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah some of the functions are different I noticed.
12:01 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: But not too foreign.
12:03 AM - BOT Harvey: iBankers live and die by Excel.
12:03 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Excel is the most popular I think.
12:03 AM - BOT Harvey: Yes, because it's part of Office.
12:04 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Everyone I know uses excel, and I'm like okay Google, I'll give you attention.
12:10 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
12:13 AM - BOT Harvey: Is Jon getting back on tonight?
12:14 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Looks like he went out. Should we try to postpone for tomorrow?
12:14 AM - BOT Harvey: Alright.
12:15 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Should be around afternoon my time.
12:15 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: We're both on that time.
12:15 AM - BOT Harvey: Define afternoon.
12:15 AM - BOT Harvey: That's like a 3 hour window.
12:15 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Between 12PM and 3PM, I'm giving you an estimate.
12:15 AM - BOT Harvey: Ok.
12:15 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Cool.
12:15 AM - BOT Harvey: Saw an easy move on BIDU.
12:15 AM - BOT Harvey: :(
12:15 AM - BOT Harvey: Easy 70% return
1:30 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
1:30 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Ya snooze ya lose, just like anything :(
1:30 AM - BOT Harvey: I'm not in the market right now.
1:30 AM - BOT Harvey: There's always an opportunity, it's just hard to find them right now.
1:31 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So you're in hibernation then.
1:31 AM - BOT Harvey: One of the things you have to learn in finance is sometimes there isn't any money to be made.
1:31 AM - BOT Harvey: So you just have to wait it out.
1:32 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah I know that, that's why I got out of TF2 when I did.
1:32 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I cashed out before the market got fucked.
1:32 AM - BOT Harvey: I'm watching CSGO.
1:32 AM - BOT Harvey: I'm waiting to see when growth tops out and the game starts to decline
1:32 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Has it happened?
1:32 AM - BOT Harvey: You never know.
1:33 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I can always judge market health just by how many knives sell on the market everyday.
1:33 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: They've been increasing, so all is good.
1:33 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: "55 Butterfly Fades sold wiithin 24hrs"
1:33 AM - BOT Harvey: It's more of trying to forsee when the game has stopped growing.
1:33 AM - BOT Harvey: foresee*
1:34 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Thing about CS:GO is it's a branded business.
1:34 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It's been here for a looong time, gaming world sense.
1:34 AM - BOT Harvey: Not saying it hasn't.
1:34 AM - BOT Harvey: But Star Citizen is coming out eventually.
1:35 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It's not like TF2, I mean what is TF2? It never had the achieving glory the CS series did.
1:35 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I should start researching that. Think it'll be worthwhile?
1:34 AM - BOT Harvey: TFC > TF2
1:35 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: TFC was fuckin badass.
1:35 AM - BOT Harvey: TF2 is stupid and cartoonie.
1:35 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: The Hunted > Every other game mode. I really liked that mode ;s
1:35 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's the appeal they went for...
1:35 AM - BOT Harvey: 5 year olds
1:36 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: TF2 would probably have been CSGO if it was realistic.
1:36 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: The market, I mean.
1:37 AM - BOT Harvey: CSGO would be better if Valve would discontinue cases faster.
1:37 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: For sure.
1:37 AM - BOT Harvey: The first 3 were only around a few months each.
1:37 AM - BOT Harvey: I was expecting that to be the trend.
1:37 AM - BOT Harvey: Nope.
1:38 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Actually, I like their slow pace.
1:37 AM - BOT Harvey: Nah.
1:38 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: If they made too many skins it'd be like DOTA.
1:38 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And look at how shit that is.
1:38 AM - BOT Harvey: It's not how fast they release new cases, it's how slow the discontinue the old ones.
1:38 AM - BOT Harvey: Right now they have Phoenix, Esports Summer 2014, Breakout, Vanguard, Chroma 1, Chroma 2, Bloodhound
1:39 AM - BOT Harvey: last summer they just had, Breakout Esports Summer, Phoenix, Huntsmand and Winter Offensive.
1:40 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: As long as they discontinued garbage like summer 2014, I mean cmon we're nearing the end of Summer 15.
1:39 AM - BOT Harvey: They used to stay out 4-5 months.
1:39 AM - BOT Harvey: Now they're out 12-18 months
1:40 AM - BOT Harvey: Pushes too many into the market.
1:40 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yup, I guess Valve wants more supply.
1:41 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And prices go down, prices goes down means more people buy them, which is probably better for Valve.
1:40 AM - BOT Harvey: DotA2 makes Valve more than CSGO but CSGO makes the most for the community out of any game.
1:41 AM - BOT Harvey: Any game in the world*
1:41 AM - BOT Harvey: Well...Minecraft might make more but only for people that create sites.
1:41 AM - BOT Harvey: Or run a server.
1:42 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah I know a few people who make six figures running Minecraft communities, wtf..
1:42 AM - BOT Harvey: LoL, in a day, makes as much as DotA2 makes in a month.
1:42 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Sounds fun to start something like that but I just don't like Minecraft enough.
1:42 AM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
1:42 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Source?
1:42 AM - BOT Harvey: LoL does $18m/day
1:42 AM - BOT Harvey: I cringed when I saw it.
1:43 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So you mean to tell me LoL makes 6B annually?
1:43 AM - BOT Harvey: These are probably revenue figures but still.
1:43 AM - BOT Harvey: Probably.
1:44 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: dmioasmidi
1:44 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Done.
1:44 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm done.
1:43 AM - BOT Harvey: Haha.
1:44 AM - BOT Harvey: Time to go make LoLshop.com and convince them to open up a reselling market exclusively through that.
1:44 AM - BOT Harvey: xD
1:44 AM - BOT Harvey: "you guys get 5% of each transaction"
1:45 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: They were seriously considering making skin trading a reality back in 2012.
1:45 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: But ultimately opted not to, instead made old discontinued skins they originally said were to be gone for good, brought back for special occasions.
1:45 AM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
1:46 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I know...
1:46 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I cringed.
1:45 AM - BOT Harvey: Fuck CSGOShop or OPSkins.
1:46 AM - BOT Harvey: I'd stick with LoL and never leave.
1:46 AM - BOT Harvey: Reselling...$5m/year in profit.
1:47 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: We can dream.
1:47 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I was ready to start domain buying if they actually announced trading.
1:48 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: http://lolshop.com was actually free at the time... Now the current bid is $250? :(
1:54 AM - BOT Harvey: Haha.
1:58 AM - BOT Harvey: I have a call tomorrow around 2 pm EST (could be an hour or two) but other than that, I'm free.
1:58 AM - BOT Harvey: Question for you.
1:58 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: No prob. What's up>
1:58 AM - BOT Harvey: How much are you and Jon willing to pay (max).
1:59 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You know I can't say that.
1:59 AM - BOT Harvey: Well I mean is it $50k or $100k?
1:59 AM - BOT Harvey: Just want to make sure I'm not wasting my time.
1:59 AM - BOT Harvey: (not to be rude)
1:59 AM - BOT Harvey: It'd depend on the job, amount of work, and what not, just checking before hand though.
2:00 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It really depends how much responsibility you're willing to put in. If you want a lot of duties or small duties.
2:00 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: This isn't a waste of time I can guarentee that.
2:00 AM - BOT Harvey: Ok.
2:00 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And also depends if you're looking to join us for the long haul or for a few months.
2:00 AM - BOT Harvey: True.
2:00 AM - BOT Harvey: I just want to make sure you guys aren't cheap like Will.
2:01 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I value good labor.
2:01 AM - BOT Harvey: Dude cuts corners worse than a corrupt politician.
2:01 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He wanted to make a 0.1% profit off me for converting PayPal to Bitcoin.
2:02 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It came out to being like $30 profit for him if I did it.
2:02 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Like really?
2:01 AM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
2:02 AM - BOT Harvey: High skilled job spots are NOT something you want to cheap out on.
2:03 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah, and especially since the people with high skilled jobs are probably given a lot of access to stuff.
2:03 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: How many hours did Will want you to work at $4k a month?
2:03 AM - BOT Harvey: I have no idea but even in July when I wasn't suppose to be working as much, I was doing 60-80/week.
2:04 AM - BOT Harvey: More actually as I worked 7 days a week.
2:04 AM - BOT Harvey: so 70-90
2:05 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Our work environment will be quite different.
2:05 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I don't believe in slave labor, fuck that.
2:05 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I don't have the heart for that sort of stuff.
2:05 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Or lack of I should say.
2:05 AM - BOT Harvey: You simply don't do it because you end up getting shitty work quality.
2:06 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Also true.
2:06 AM - BOT Harvey: Will refused to share equity with anyone he didn't have to.
2:06 AM - BOT Harvey: Flat out said it.
2:07 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Maybe I grew up or something but I try to be as ethically green as possible.
2:07 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Victimless crimes kek
2:07 AM - BOT Harvey: He kept wanting me to make cash offers with money we didn't have just so he could avoid paying out equity.
2:08 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Wait til he tries this shit in the real world.
2:08 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You can only cut corners so many times...
2:08 AM - BOT Harvey: I don't think he actually understands the word "fraud".
2:09 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It's just not a long term solid plan.
2:08 AM - BOT Harvey: Or "labor law violations".
2:09 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: If he could, he'd outright rob people of skins.
2:09 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He told me would if he could get away with it.
2:09 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: he would*
2:10 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Dumbass doesn't know how easy it is to be in two places at once to actually do something like that...
2:10 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: If you want to scam, I don't even trust VPNs or proxies.
2:10 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: If you slip up or anything, your identity is fucked.
2:15 AM - BOT Harvey: I am tired of illegal crap.
2:15 AM - BOT Harvey: That's about all he does.
2:17 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
2:17 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Money changed his stupid ass.
2:17 AM - BOT Harvey: Sad part is, there is more money if he just plays the game fair than if he does it the way he does.
2:18 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's what I learned.
2:18 AM - BOT Harvey: NO actual business will ever buy him out.
2:18 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And you feel so much better.
2:18 AM - BOT Harvey: NO serious investor would buy.
2:19 AM - BOT Harvey: He'll never get a real startup either.
2:20 AM - BOT Harvey: A real startup, you end up with like 20-30% (CEO) of the equity (you maintain control but give up most of the company's value).
2:27 AM - BOT Harvey: So when did you finally realize you should stop being scummy?
2:29 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Work a lot with Jon.
2:29 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He has very good business ethic and it rubbed off on me.
2:29 AM - BOT Harvey: In the past 6 months?
2:29 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yes.
2:29 AM - BOT Harvey: As I said, if you make $1m, pitching the guy below you 10% doesn't hurt you at all an makes him VERY happy
2:30 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Sure.
2:30 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Gonna watch some shows with some friends, later dude.
2:30 AM - BOT Harvey: About to sleep myself.
2:30 AM - BOT Harvey: Nighty night.
2:30 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Cool.
2:30 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Night dude.
3:54 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
3:59 PM - BOT Harvey: Good day meatbag.
4:02 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Sup man.
4:02 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I just woke up.
4:02 PM - BOT Harvey: Haha
4:02 PM - BOT Harvey: I didn't get a full 6 hours of sleep.
4:03 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm lowkey embarressed by my shit sleep cycle.
4:02 PM - BOT Harvey: Kept waking up.
4:02 PM - BOT Harvey: Had a call to make.
4:03 PM - BOT Harvey: And didn't want to miss it.
4:03 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Did it work out?
4:03 PM - BOT Harvey: Better than speaking with Will.
4:03 PM - BOT Harvey: Will lies about almost everything.
4:04 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What does he lie about these days that would benefit him?
4:04 PM - BOT Harvey: Everything?
4:05 PM - BOT Harvey: Nick told you about Will not holding up his commission deal he gave him.
4:05 PM - BOT Harvey: He offered him something then when he found out how much it'd cost him (which wasn't even THAT much), he said he wouldn't pay it (even though Nick had accepted it).
4:05 PM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
4:06 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: :|
4:07 PM - BOT Harvey: Can't wait to see what you and Jon have to say.
4:07 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
4:07 PM - BOT Harvey: Star Citizen COULD have a solid future.
4:08 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: 95% sure it will.
4:08 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: All the money thrown at it? Yeah..
4:08 PM - BOT Harvey: But it's hard to say if they'd open the economy up with an API.
4:09 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You coulda bought a commercial rocket ship for $10k that included a big casino room business.
4:09 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm pretty sure they're planning for stuff like that.
4:09 PM - BOT Harvey: I'll tell you one thing, once the stock market's volatility goes back to 17-24 range, THAT will be the place to be.
4:10 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: 17-24 range?
4:09 PM - BOT Harvey: VIX
4:10 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Oooh.
4:10 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: A volatility gauge?
4:10 PM - BOT Harvey: It measures volatility of the S&P500 options
4:10 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Ye.
4:11 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Anything you say I pretty much google nowadays.
4:10 PM - BOT Harvey: You're learning.
4:10 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
4:10 PM - BOT Harvey: Google is your best friend.
4:11 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Truly is..
4:11 PM - BOT Harvey: It's more than Will seems to be able to handle.
4:11 PM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
4:12 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Don't underestimate him now, he's cunning.
4:12 PM - BOT Harvey: But lazy
4:13 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He'd have you spoon feed him the info probably? I don't know how it worked.
4:12 PM - BOT Harvey: Pretty much.
4:13 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I never worked with him on such a close basis, I just did a lot of stuff for him behind the scenes for free.
4:13 PM - BOT Harvey: Even when I did and he didn't listen, he wouldn't go back and search the Slack records.
4:13 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I don't even know why.
4:14 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: But Alt +F ?
4:13 PM - BOT Harvey: Yeah
4:13 PM - BOT Harvey: LAZY AS FUCK
4:14 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Slack had a search function.
4:14 PM - BOT Harvey: He does everything except learn how to actually do stuff.
4:14 PM - BOT Harvey: In the end, he'll know nothing and be nowhere for it.
4:15 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: If I have someone working for me where I don't know what they're doing (hence why I have them doing it in the first place) I try to ask a million questions.
4:15 PM - BOT Harvey: Will asked what my responsibilities were a WEEK after I quit working
4:16 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What were your responsibilities?
4:16 PM - BOT Harvey: Sad part is he had a copy of a meeting where we divided them up.
4:16 PM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
4:17 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Idk, Will seems a whole lot more educated than me but I just don't know about him.
4:17 PM - BOT Harvey: Having an education doesn't mean you know anything.
4:17 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I hate when people gloat about education.
4:17 PM - BOT Harvey: Look at Daniel Tosh.
4:18 PM - BOT Harvey: One of his writers went to Harvard and yet Daniel's the smarter one.
4:18 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I try not to.
4:18 PM - BOT Harvey: And makes more.
4:19 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Will always told me how he was gonna accepted to Harvard and get all this achievements and shit.
4:19 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I kek'd when it got denied and he showed me the mail of deny.
4:19 PM - BOT Harvey: IF he knew something, maybe.
4:19 PM - BOT Harvey: But he doesn't.
4:19 PM - BOT Harvey: He showed me his math homework that he had a hard time with and it was actually pretty easy.
4:20 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Derivatives and shit, right?
4:20 PM - BOT Harvey: Yeah
4:20 PM - BOT Harvey: He's good at lying.
4:20 PM - BOT Harvey: Lieing*
4:20 PM - BOT Harvey: That's about it.
4:21 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He should be a car salesman.
4:21 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He'd do well there.
4:21 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: used car*
4:21 PM - BOT Harvey: Not really.
4:21 PM - BOT Harvey: Lemon Laws exist for a reason.
4:22 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Truue.
4:22 PM - BOT Harvey: He's good at lieing, cheating, stealing, and cutting corners.
4:23 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Maybe a souvenir store proprietor then XD
4:23 PM - BOT Harvey: Only reason I didn't push harder for good paperwork EARLY on was because I didn't have the money to burn on it.
4:23 PM - BOT Harvey: If I had, he'd have nothing now.
4:25 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So if I can understand correctly, he wanted you to continue working for him if you wanted 1/5th the company still? I'm still a little lost on that.
4:25 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And by continue working I mean doing all his work + more.
4:25 PM - BOT Harvey: No, I wanted more.
4:25 PM - BOT Harvey: I wanted half.
4:25 PM - BOT Harvey: AND to put him on a vesting schedule.
4:25 PM - BOT Harvey: Which is entirely reasonable.
4:25 PM - BOT Harvey: I even offered to pay.
4:25 PM - BOT Harvey: Pay him to get the hell out of his own way.
4:27 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And he said no and did what?
4:26 PM - BOT Harvey: Kicked me out.
4:27 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Is that legal?
4:27 PM - BOT Harvey: Probably.
4:28 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: By you having more, would you have been working full time on CSGOShop?
4:27 PM - BOT Harvey: I was always working fulltime there.
4:28 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I know, but continue working.
4:28 PM - BOT Harvey: Yes
4:28 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Because such a share holder you should have a huge presence there.
4:28 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's good.
4:29 PM - BOT Harvey: We both know the only reason that place sucked was because of Will and almost everything he did.
4:29 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Look at TF2Shop.
4:30 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Nothing new, nothing exciting.
4:29 PM - BOT Harvey: He cheaped out on a dev (Jake).
4:30 PM - BOT Harvey: He doesn't want to pay for quality help.
4:31 PM - BOT Harvey: The first weekend, when we opened, he was already demanding I put more money in so he could buy a pro-team.
4:31 PM - BOT Harvey: By Friday night.
4:32 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Pro teams are worth it if you can get your hands on that sticker revenue.
4:32 PM - BOT Harvey: Yeah, he wanted to run it at a loss.
4:32 PM - BOT Harvey: And he didn't want to buy a T1 team (which gest sticker money)
4:33 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: How much do T1 members make generally?
4:33 PM - BOT Harvey: He wanted to buy a T2 NA team
4:33 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Like what do the orgs pay them monthly?
4:33 PM - BOT Harvey: I have no idea how much T1 teams make.
4:33 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I know that it varies, nip makes the most I heard.
4:33 PM - BOT Harvey: Yeah.
4:33 PM - BOT Harvey: There is a site that shows how much the top progamers make.
4:33 PM - BOT Harvey: And over what periods it counts for
4:34 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Evil Geniuses are now #1 XD
4:34 PM - BOT Harvey: In CS?
4:34 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: In all esports history.
4:34 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: No globally.
4:34 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Because of the Ti5 victory.
4:35 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Highest earnings for a esports team.
4:35 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: org*
4:35 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Oh yeah, so I just bought a kindle.
4:35 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's a purchase I should have made years back, but whatever.
4:35 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I come to terms that I fucking hate books.
4:35 PM - BOT Harvey: Haha
4:36 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Like literally, I hate books and I hate writing.
4:36 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm an internet child, go figure.
4:36 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Typing and electronic reading is the way for me, that's what I love.
4:36 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I love reading on my phone, I usually read weird shit before bed, so I thought why not read something useful before bed on my kindle.
4:36 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Any good books I should pick up? I got one day shipping.
4:38 PM - BOT Harvey: If you want to get into real finance, look up finance books.
4:38 PM - BOT Harvey: I like "The Quants"
4:38 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's what I mean.
4:38 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Is Donald Trump's book worth reading?
4:38 PM - BOT Harvey: I would read books by not famous authors.
4:39 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I liked Rich Dad Poor Dad.
4:39 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Great freakin book.
4:39 PM - BOT Harvey: I have a copy of the quants if you'd like it.
4:39 PM - BOT Harvey: PDF
4:39 PM - BOT Harvey: It's like a weekend's read.
4:40 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Would you be so kind? tfteeird@gmail.com or how do you normally send PDFs?
4:39 PM - BOT Harvey: 300 or 400 pages
4:41 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What's the subjectr?
4:46 PM - BOT Harvey: Sent
4:47 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Received, thanks. When I get my kindle that'll be the first thing I start giving a go.
4:47 PM - BOT Harvey: Start reading it before then.
4:47 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
4:47 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What's it about?
4:47 PM - BOT Harvey: Financial crash and the role the quants played in it.
4:48 PM - BOT Harvey: It's a better book than Flash Boys.
4:48 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: The crash of '09 crash?
4:48 PM - BOT Harvey: Yes
4:48 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Kewl.
4:48 PM - BOT Harvey: I wouldn't touch Flash Boys.
4:48 PM - BOT Harvey: He's just trying to entertain the reader.
4:50 PM - BOT Harvey: Michael Lewis wrote Moneyball (the book the movie is based off).
4:51 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I just want to surround myself with a bunch of knowledge and keep reading daily.
4:51 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Apply things I learn in here somehow so what I learn sticks.
4:52 PM - BOT Harvey: If you really want to learn about financial markets, dynamics, and everything else, I'd go start trading in real markets.
4:52 PM - BOT Harvey: Stick to small amounts and stay there.
4:52 PM - BOT Harvey: You'd probably burn $10-15k but you'd learn a lot.
4:52 PM - BOT Harvey: And I mean a LOT.
4:53 PM - BOT Harvey: I'd also get a job working for whatever shitty wage they pay at shitty places so you know how crappy real jobs are.
4:53 PM - BOT Harvey: Gives you a better appreciation for your money.
4:54 PM - BOT Harvey: And your job.
4:54 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I might work the fields for a month. lol
4:55 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Work the shittiest job imaginable.
4:54 PM - BOT Harvey: Point is to work it long enough to realize, "I have an amazing fucking life."
4:55 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I mean I'm already realizing that. I'm really thankful for the way things are.
4:55 PM - BOT Harvey: It helps keep you from getting stupidly greedy like Will.
4:55 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah I see your point.
4:55 PM - BOT Harvey: After the first $500/day, it didn't mean much.
4:55 PM - BOT Harvey: $5k/day didn't feel any better than $1k.
4:56 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I woke up to making about $700 today, and all I said was cool. I'm not trying to gloat but what you're saying is relevant.
4:56 PM - BOT Harvey: Nah, $700 is solid.
4:56 PM - BOT Harvey: You worked for it.
4:57 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Working my ass off.
4:57 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: The past week I've been kinda lazy though, I need to start working more.
4:57 PM - BOT Harvey: Not saying you should give it all away, it's just you need to appreciate how bad it ACTUALLY gets so you treat others around you better and don't get too greedy or take too much risk.
4:58 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah.
4:58 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Something I learned when getting money is how much easier things are.
4:58 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: My once big worries are like pebbles now.
4:58 PM - BOT Harvey: Money doesn't make you happier, it just makes your life easier, which increases happiness.
4:58 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: ^
4:58 PM - BOT Harvey: I took a year where I had losses and didn't make a cent.
4:58 PM - BOT Harvey: it BLOWS
4:59 PM - BOT Harvey: It's why I came to Steam. Adapt to survive.
4:59 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: mhm
5:01 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What would you say your greatest pros and cons are?
5:02 PM - BOT Harvey: My best attribute is my own ability to question whether I'm right or not.
5:02 PM - BOT Harvey: I ask myself all the time if I'm actually right. It keeps me from getting too arrogant.
5:03 PM - BOT Harvey: My worst attribute is believing people will change.
5:03 PM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
5:04 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm guessing that's what made you so cynicle throughout the years.
5:04 PM - BOT Harvey: It's mostly why I don't trust people.
5:05 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That sucks dude.
5:05 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I know it is.
5:05 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I have the same issue.
5:05 PM - BOT Harvey: I quit trusting Will and reset SteamGuard on one of my accounts which is holding all of the Shop's own inventory.
5:05 PM - BOT Harvey: Will got PISSED.
5:06 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Pro tip: Don't hold too much inventory.
5:06 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You never know when valve will drop an update which makes your shit cost 30-50% less.
5:06 PM - BOT Harvey: But his fault for putting stuff in my account after he had started cutting off my access from stuff.
5:07 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah that's stupid.
5:07 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Spread value so that doesn't likely happen.
5:07 PM - BOT Harvey: That said, I'm pretty good at risk management, on the numbers that is.
5:07 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Another thing he could learn.
5:07 PM - BOT Harvey: I personally managed risk for a number of people who couldn't send in documents for verification.
5:08 PM - BOT Harvey: Hadn't gotten a single issue with fraud from them.
5:08 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
5:09 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And that's where you say "gg no re"
5:08 PM - BOT Harvey: Haha.
5:09 PM - BOT Harvey: I also forget I say stuff.
5:09 PM - BOT Harvey: Which is why I like Slack, because it has the history.
5:09 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
5:10 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I told you Slack was the answer >.>
5:10 PM - BOT Harvey: Also, you don't ask someone "what are you pros and cons". You say, "what are you strengths and weaknesses".
5:10 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
5:13 PM - BOT Harvey: At the end of the day, we both know I'm smart and I keep learning everyday.
5:13 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Don't be cocky.
5:13 PM - BOT Harvey: I don't know everything and don't pretend to trust myself with everything either.
5:14 PM - BOT Harvey: Not trying to be.
5:14 PM - BOT Harvey: Needed to wait for that second statement.
5:15 PM - BOT Harvey: I maybe smart and learn everyday, but I don't know everything and can't know everything.
5:15 PM - BOT Harvey: Also, Star Citizen, it's a gamble on whether it makes it to Steam.
5:15 PM - BOT Harvey: If it were to, then there would be a chance for SCM integration.
5:15 PM - BOT Harvey: If you look at the SC forums, it's almost a resounding "no".
5:16 PM - BOT Harvey: Reddit, on the other hand, wants it to make it to Steam.
5:16 PM - BOT Harvey: Though I think the odds are low.
5:16 PM - BOT Harvey: So any likely market there would probably be contained to within the game itself and possibly a proprietary market.
5:16 PM - BOT Harvey: (meaning a market that RSI would own)
5:17 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: SC SCM integration would be amazing.
5:17 PM - BOT Harvey: Yes and no.
5:17 PM - BOT Harvey: Given how much money they have and how big the game could grow, they'd probably be better off making the market themselves.
5:18 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I mean for us.
5:18 PM - BOT Harvey: It was an idea I said to Will but it'd be a slim margin that it'd end up happening.
5:18 PM - BOT Harvey: What would be MORE likely would be a proprietary market that RSI owned.
5:19 PM - BOT Harvey: As the SCM interface is pretty fucking shitty for the needs of SC.
5:19 PM - BOT Harvey: I.E. buying individual items vs buying a decked out ship with all kinds of add-ons.
5:23 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah. A big ass ship will surely cost more than $400 wallet.
5:23 PM - BOT Harvey: Yup.
5:23 PM - BOT Harvey: In fact, I'd say the "low end" complete ships will probably be like $40-50/each.
5:24 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Easily yeah.
5:24 PM - BOT Harvey: Have to remember SC targets an older audience.
5:24 PM - BOT Harvey: They have the cash to pour into this stuff.
5:24 PM - BOT Harvey: Steam games have always targeted 15-24 range.
5:25 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Do you think I should try getting into it? Like will it be bots mining? Weird dicing? I have no clue what the game would offer for financial benefit.
5:24 PM - BOT Harvey: SC targets 24-40 range
5:25 PM - BOT Harvey: I don't know.
5:25 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: When is the release date?
5:25 PM - BOT Harvey: It really depends on how RSI is when it comes to being open about their economy.
5:25 PM - BOT Harvey: Full release is late 2016
5:25 PM - BOT Harvey: At last check but probably 2017
5:26 PM - BOT Harvey: There is more money in the casual crowd (which Steam is shooting for), but there is a better game quality in the hardcore and older crowd (which RSI seems to care to shoot for).
5:27 PM - BOT Harvey: Given the prices you see with RSI, so far anyway, it also shows to shoot for being a western world game, not something for most of the world.
5:27 PM - BOT Harvey: That doesn't have to be a bad thing, just means it limits the crowd.
5:28 PM - BOT Harvey: But then again, high end, high margin products that are marketed toward the top end of the world, is a smart way to go if you can do it.
5:28 PM - BOT Harvey: It's what Apple does.
5:30 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Is this game pay once? And they get you on the ship insurance?
5:30 PM - BOT Harvey: Who knows.
5:30 PM - BOT Harvey: RSI hasn't given out any details on their long term business model.
5:30 PM - BOT Harvey: Really they should just do a monthly sub.
5:30 PM - BOT Harvey: Doesn't have to be insanely high.
5:30 PM - BOT Harvey: $5, for example.
5:31 PM - BOT Harvey: Then they can do microtransaction stuff on the rest.
5:34 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: The game looks like a space nerd's wet dream.
5:34 PM - BOT Harvey: Yup
5:34 PM - BOT Harvey: But the business side is competely up in the air.
5:35 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: ;s
5:35 PM - BOT Harvey: IF SC is THAT good, it could also wipe out games like CSGO for the hardcore people.
5:35 PM - BOT Harvey: The FPS module still isn't out but it's got some really cool new stuff.
5:35 PM - BOT Harvey: CSGO is modeled for competitive but really grew because of the gambling.
6:02 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Away.
6:18 PM - BOT Harvey: So when's Jon going to be online?
6:21 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
6:23 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Do you want me to text him?
6:23 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Gonna grab some subway.
6:27 PM - BOT Harvey: Sent him a message on Skype.
6:27 PM - BOT Harvey: Mmmmmmm Subway.
6:27 PM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
7:16 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
7:17 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What's your new skype anyway?
7:17 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Can't do anything without the new skype.
8:11 PM - BOT Harvey: Haven't made a new one.
8:12 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Make a new one please.
8:14 PM - BOT Harvey: Will is demanding I explain to him how all of the accounting documents worked.
8:14 PM - BOT Harvey: Uh....I don't work for you anymore.
8:15 PM - BOT Harvey: Wanna operate on Will time? Better be ready to do it yourself.
8:15 PM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
8:20 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Remember when I coined Will Time? XD
8:20 PM - BOT Harvey: "You have to because I say so" is basically what he's saying...
8:20 PM - BOT Harvey: Uh...no?
8:20 PM - BOT Harvey: "You're not responding to me. I'm documenting this."
8:20 PM - BOT Harvey: ...I went to the grocery store.
8:20 PM - BOT Harvey: Notice a common theme with Will?
8:21 PM - BOT Harvey: He seems to think everyone has to help him in any way he wants, most of the time for free.
8:22 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah. He doesn't even respond to me anymore.
8:23 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: But when he messages, he messages me on everything possible to make sure I get it.
8:23 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Then continues to spam with assertive messages as if he's above me.
8:23 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Fuck that.
8:24 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Looks like we'll be talking tonight.
8:28 PM - BOT Harvey: Cool.
8:29 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm sorry to keep you hanging.
8:29 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Both of our schedules are pretty tight.
8:30 PM - BOT Harvey: It's all good.
8:30 PM - BOT Harvey: Dealing with Will is almost as bad.
8:32 PM - BOT Harvey: Actually it's worse.
8:34 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: No shit it's worse.
8:34 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: If I can't do something, I say it and not completely ignore ya.
8:34 PM - BOT Harvey: Dude Will ignored me for days.
8:34 PM - BOT Harvey: Just because he was unhappy with an answer I'd give him.
8:35 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: .,.
8:35 PM - BOT Harvey: One time he ignored me for almost a week just because I said he had to work for 3 days.
8:35 PM - BOT Harvey: Then when you don't respond IMMEDIATELY, he claims you're being immature.
8:36 PM - BOT Harvey: He's a total baby.
8:37 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: 5:07 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Start cashing me out on TF2Shop
5:14 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Start cashing me out on TF2Shop
5:21 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Start cashing me out on TF2Shop
5:36 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Start cashing me out on TF2Shop
8:37 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: My messages to Will. It's been like this for a couple of days now.
8:37 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I used to say please.
8:37 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Now I'm over being nice to him.
8:37 PM - BOT Harvey: Same.
8:37 PM - BOT Harvey: I'm about to have your lawyer speak to me if you want something.
8:38 PM - BOT Harvey: Because it's seriously at that point that I'm done dealing with him.
8:38 PM - BOT Harvey: I know he's constantly lieing.
8:40 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Gotta hit the gym.
8:40 PM - BOT Harvey: GRRR.
8:40 PM - BOT Harvey: STUPID SKYPE
8:42 PM - BOT Harvey: FINALLY one that works
11:19 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
11:20 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Have you made your new skype?
11:40 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
Thursday, August 20, 2015
12:02 AM - BOT Harvey: Yes
12:02 AM - BOT Harvey: Sorry I was watching Suits
12:03 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's fine
12:03 AM - BOT Harvey: mark.erickson00
12:05 AM - BOT Harvey: Jon on now?
12:06 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yes, I need to talk to him a bit first.
12:18 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah reason he's been away so long is he's been getting the LLC ready.
12:18 AM - BOT Harvey: Ah so the paperwork's been filed?
12:19 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Process of.
12:19 AM - BOT Harvey: Did you guys go with LLC so you could be on the papers?
12:20 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He's not ready yet, and he mentioned that RIGHT now as we speak we don't really need a "super employee". But that may change in the future.
12:20 AM - BOT Harvey: How far in the future?
12:20 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah it's LLC.
12:20 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I don't know.
12:23 AM - BOT Harvey: Man you type long messages.
12:23 AM - BOT Harvey: xD
12:23 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Steam bug.
12:23 AM - BOT Harvey: I know.
12:23 AM - BOT Harvey: Just poking fun.
12:24 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah.
12:24 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm sorry dude.
12:24 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I want you to know that you're not forgotten, and if we need a position that you'd excel at, you'll be my first suggestion.
12:25 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Whatever happened at CSGOShop sucks ass, I don't know the full story, and I don't like tyrany.
12:25 AM - BOT Harvey: Bottom line: Will serves no purpose but owns the entire place
12:25 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He'll get what's coming to him.
12:26 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You can only fuck over so many people so many times.
12:25 AM - BOT Harvey: He demands to make every decision but makes very poor ones.
12:26 AM - BOT Harvey: No offense, but you and Ernest were terrible hires.
12:26 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: How was Ernest?
12:26 AM - BOT Harvey: You wouldn't do the work because made too much on your own and well...Ernest is REALLY stupid.
12:26 AM - BOT Harvey: :/
12:27 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: When I was there, you were giving Ernest hella favoritism.
12:27 AM - BOT Harvey: He's pretty slow and doesn't like to work an insane amount.
12:27 AM - BOT Harvey: He had surgery which I thought was the problem.
12:27 AM - BOT Harvey: Can't fault someone for getting it.
12:27 AM - BOT Harvey: Nope, that's just him as a person.
12:28 AM - BOT Harvey: He skipped out early one day for an "emergency" and it turned out he had a barbeque to go to.
12:28 AM - BOT Harvey: Nick and I got up the running joke of "an emergency barbeque".
12:30 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: How did you find out it was a barbeque?
12:30 AM - BOT Harvey: He told Nick.
12:31 AM - BOT Harvey: There are other problems but a ton of them simply stem from Will.
12:32 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: The problem is everyone is doing the wrong jobs.
12:32 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You should never have been given a management position, you don't have the people skills.
12:32 AM - BOT Harvey: I got a lot better after May.
12:33 AM - BOT Harvey: The problem was, Will wanted contractors but that limits you to what you're allowed to tell staff to do.
12:33 AM - BOT Harvey: Things like structured shifts aren't allowed.
12:34 AM - BOT Harvey: Will wanted a ton of stuff a very certain way, which tied my hands to what I could do.
12:35 AM - BOT Harvey: I wanted to post on job sites, for a dev, for example.
12:35 AM - BOT Harvey: He denied it because he didn't want "random" people.
12:35 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He's right in some way, you need someone at least familiar with Steam.
12:35 AM - BOT Harvey: Except the people GOOD enough aren't in Steam full time.
12:36 AM - BOT Harvey: The handful that are, own their community site.
12:36 AM - BOT Harvey: And they won't come work for you.
12:36 AM - BOT Harvey: So you just have to go, take the plunge, and hire someone without Steam experience.
12:36 AM - BOT Harvey: And have them learn.
12:36 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: tl;dr Will is a corrupt shady bureaucracy. End of story.
12:36 AM - BOT Harvey: Basically.
12:37 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Nothing gets done because of poor structure.
12:37 AM - BOT Harvey: I had no problem hiring an attorney early on and maybe looking for a solid angel investor to help give advice, mentorship, and more connections.
12:38 AM - BOT Harvey: He didn't see the point.
12:38 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Solid angel investor?
12:38 AM - BOT Harvey: Will thinks good investors just write a check.
12:38 AM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
12:38 AM - BOT Harvey: The difference between OP and CSGOShop was Jake vs John.
12:39 AM - BOT Harvey: Will didn't want to pay more than like $15 for a dev because "this is Steam and most of the people in this industry are unpaid volunteer work".
12:40 AM - BOT Harvey: Yeah and they work for non-profit or very small businesses, not startups.
12:41 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So he wanted to do a 32k annual instead of the norm 40-50k?
12:40 AM - BOT Harvey: Yeah.
12:41 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He's a bigger jew than me!
12:41 AM - BOT Harvey: I told him he should be looking to pay $20-25 for a solid early dev.
12:41 AM - BOT Harvey: 20-25/hr
12:42 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's what I would do.
12:41 AM - BOT Harvey: He asked a local contracting firm and I can understand why we didn't go with them, they wanted $125/hr.
12:42 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Quality over crap.
12:42 AM - BOT Harvey: OP uses billing software that I wasn't even aware existed.
12:42 AM - BOT Harvey: I'd have gone with their path if I had known about it.
12:43 AM - BOT Harvey: Instead of trying to do EVERYTHING from scratch.
12:44 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: :(
12:44 AM - BOT Harvey: It came down to Will not actually knowing much.
12:44 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You guys would be millionaires by now.
12:44 AM - BOT Harvey: Being incredibly cheap, and not wanting to do anything correctly.
12:44 AM - BOT Harvey: Yup.
12:45 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I bet you feel robbed.
12:44 AM - BOT Harvey: CSGOShop wouldn't even have a business license if it wasn't for me.
12:45 AM - BOT Harvey: He whined and complained about having to get one.
12:45 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I remember it took him 4 weeks to create the business bank acct.
12:45 AM - BOT Harvey: You know the reason payments were delayed by like 2 weeks was because he didn't finish linking the bank account to the PayPal account, right?
12:46 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Are you serious???
12:46 AM - BOT Harvey: Completely.
12:46 AM - BOT Harvey: He never confirmed the deposits on PayPal.
12:46 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: An idiot could figure that out though.
12:46 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Omfg.
12:47 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: PAYPAL SAYS IT
12:47 AM - BOT Harvey: Took like 3 different tries, 2 phone calls, and 10 emails for our account manager to realize that was the issue.
12:47 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He acts like all the labor he puts in is a long process and is very difficult/tedious that takes a stupid amount of time to execute.
12:48 AM - BOT Harvey: By the way, I'm only telling you this because you were still there at the time.
12:48 AM - BOT Harvey: I wouldn't otherwise.
12:49 AM - BOT Harvey: I seriously don't understand his problem.
12:49 AM - BOT Harvey: This game was like the LOWEST hanging fruit possible and he still managed to fuck it up.
12:50 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He's on adderall still right?
12:49 AM - BOT Harvey: He started again in June.
12:50 AM - BOT Harvey: Or May.
12:50 AM - BOT Harvey: He doesn't need Adderall.
12:50 AM - BOT Harvey: He needs to go get a real job.
12:50 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: No problem, I'm just taking doses of meth everyday to subside my ADHD, which isn't really a problem to begin with.
12:50 AM - BOT Harvey: I have ADHD and I function just fine.
12:51 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I have it too.
12:51 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I have a really hard time focusing, all the fuckin time.
12:51 AM - BOT Harvey: Yup.
12:52 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: His parents probably got him into it. "YOU NO 100% ? WE GET U HEALTHY"
12:51 AM - BOT Harvey: Haha
12:51 AM - BOT Harvey: Nah he's just lazy as fuck.
12:52 AM - BOT Harvey: I can tell you one thing though, Justin and he may have my ideas but I only put it at like a 30% chance they can execute it.
12:52 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I was considering it for awhile if I had started public HS, but I came to the quick conclusion of no fuck that.
12:52 AM - BOT Harvey: Both of them are completely stuck in TF2.
12:53 AM - BOT Harvey: "Well in this industry..." bullshit.
12:53 AM - BOT Harvey: Dude...in THIS industry, you have 8,000,000 customers and only like 6 fucking sites they're going to.
12:54 AM - BOT Harvey: OPSkins, CSGOShop, Jackpot, SkinArena, CSGOFast, Chance, Lounge, SteamAnalyst
12:55 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Don't forget Skinz. That's a popular site surprisingly.
12:55 AM - BOT Harvey: Skinz?
12:55 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It's like slots.
12:55 AM - BOT Harvey: CSGOSkins?
12:55 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: http://CSGOSkinz.net or something
12:55 AM - BOT Harvey: Yeah.
12:56 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Oh it's an s not a z.
12:55 AM - BOT Harvey: Still, point being, there are only like a handful of sites.
12:56 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: For the life of me I don't know why Alexa puts it higher ranked than CSGOJ.
12:56 AM - BOT Harvey: And MILLIONS of customers for them.
12:56 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Did you guys buy from Lucky
12:56 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: ?
12:56 AM - BOT Harvey: MOST businesses would KILL for just hundreds of thousands of customers.
12:56 AM - BOT Harvey: I can't say.
12:57 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You're weird with what you disclose.
12:57 AM - BOT Harvey: But yeah, LOWEST hanging fruit possible.
12:57 AM - BOT Harvey: I tell you specifics from when you WERE there and then vague answers from when you weren't.
12:57 AM - BOT Harvey: :)
12:58 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What loyalty do you have towards them?
12:57 AM - BOT Harvey: Ernest's "emergency barbeque" was right around when you left.
12:58 AM - BOT Harvey: Loyalty, none. Contract, yes.
12:58 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Contract deez nutz.
12:58 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: XD
12:58 AM - BOT Harvey: Haha.
12:58 AM - BOT Harvey: I can say I don't have a non-compete.
12:58 AM - BOT Harvey: :)
12:59 AM - BOT Harvey: And no proper paperwork for my equity which keeps me out of the non-compete crap there as well.
12:59 AM - BOT Harvey: So I can sell for myself as well.
1:00 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So what are you going to do now?
12:59 AM - BOT Harvey: Not entirely sure.
1:00 AM - BOT Harvey: I only officially got kicked out like 3 days ago.
1:03 AM - BOT Harvey: IF the market was better, I'd go directly back to it.
1:03 AM - BOT Harvey: But it's going to be boring for a little while.
1:04 AM - BOT Harvey: Might put $5k in my brokerage account and leave it there while I wait for shit to start going.
1:04 AM - BOT Harvey: Just takes a lot of time to move money.
1:05 AM - BOT Harvey: So you kinda want to have money ready to go when you're going to go.
1:05 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Lol it's like SG.
1:05 AM - BOT Harvey: Not really.
1:05 AM - BOT Harvey: You can move it faster, it just costs you extra.
1:06 AM - BOT Harvey: Moving it from PP to my brokerage account would take...8 business days.
1:06 AM - BOT Harvey: I'll likely drop a few thousand in CSGO stuff.
1:07 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That'd be a neat feature if you can bypass certain steam locks by showing identification. I know DF briefly mentioned it but nothing came of it.
1:06 AM - BOT Harvey: Just for some longer gambles.
1:07 AM - BOT Harvey: Should have gotten the 75,000 community sticker capules when I had the chance.
1:07 AM - BOT Harvey: :(
1:07 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yo I gtg.
1:07 AM - BOT Harvey: Night
1:07 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Not night yet.
1:07 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: lol, I'm not that lame.
5:41 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
6:42 AM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
6:42 AM - BOT Harvey: I'm looking at Will's business model and comparing it to mine for the current site.
6:42 AM - BOT Harvey: Makes me wanna hang myself.
6:42 AM - BOT Harvey: xD
6:43 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Explain? :P
6:43 AM - BOT Harvey: Can't.
6:44 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Why say then...
6:44 AM - BOT Harvey: Just makes me wonder how he EVER expected to get into HBS.
6:44 AM - BOT Harvey: I'm surprised he got into a university at all.
6:44 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Kek.
6:46 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I want to start hosting raves as a business model.
6:46 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Sorta long term business idea.
6:47 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: There's a lot of rave heads where I live and not enough festivals.
6:47 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: long term by in a couple years I might start, not now.
6:48 AM - BOT Harvey: I have a friend who looked into doing that kind of thing.
6:48 AM - BOT Harvey: Could see if he ever went for it.
6:49 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Can you?
6:49 AM - BOT Harvey: No problem.
6:49 AM - BOT Harvey: I'll email him.
6:49 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Thanks.
6:49 AM - BOT Harvey: Yup.
6:49 AM - BOT Harvey: Doubt he went for it but I can ask all the same.
6:50 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Was he serious about the idea?
6:49 AM - BOT Harvey: It was like $10k investment if I remember correctly.
6:49 AM - BOT Harvey: He decided not to.
6:50 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's not too bad.
6:50 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'd love to start something like that.
6:50 AM - BOT Harvey: He didn't have the cash at the time.
6:50 AM - BOT Harvey: Most of his paycheck is in stock.
6:50 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Ah.
6:50 AM - BOT Harvey: (Welcome to Wall Street)
6:51 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Where did he live?
6:50 AM - BOT Harvey: Where you make a LOT but most is deferred earnings.
6:50 AM - BOT Harvey: Analyst.
6:51 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Is... that a place?
6:51 AM - BOT Harvey: Oh my bad.
6:51 AM - BOT Harvey: Thought you said, "What did he do?"
6:51 AM - BOT Harvey: He lives in Manhattan.
6:52 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Well then.
6:52 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: $10k for starting up something in a place like New York? Seems really low.
6:54 AM - BOT Harvey: I'm sure he wasn't the only one that would go into it.
6:55 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Got it.
6:55 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: EDM scene is going to get really big very soon.
6:55 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Justin Bieber's next album is going to be House.
6:56 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I love EDM and I love to rave, so why not do something I love.
6:56 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I even wanna try making music once I get more available time.
6:56 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's kinda why I'm building a social persona, to help kickstart that idea.
6:57 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Someone semi famous making decent shit is better than a nobody making decent shit.
6:58 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: If you noticed, all the pop kings and queens are joining the EDM scene.
8:06 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
8:07 AM - BOT Harvey: Dude...I'm epic at math.
8:08 AM - BOT Harvey: :)
8:08 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: H0w.
8:08 AM - BOT Harvey: Should see my pitch for an offer to the company's attorney.
8:08 AM - BOT Harvey: Chalk full of numerical goodiness.
8:09 AM - BOT Harvey: 5 spreadsheets.
8:09 AM - BOT Harvey: xD
8:09 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Toppest of kek.
8:09 AM - BOT Harvey: This is how BLOATED Will's ego is.
8:09 AM - BOT Harvey: "My lawyer"
8:09 AM - BOT Harvey: ...
8:10 AM - BOT Harvey: Uh...it said "CSGOShop Ltd." on the retainer.
8:10 AM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
8:24 AM - BOT Harvey: xD
8:24 AM - BOT Harvey: Found the dirt I had on Will.
8:24 AM - BOT Harvey: :)
8:25 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Guessing you won't share that.
8:25 AM - BOT Harvey: Not for the moment.
8:25 AM - BOT Harvey: Poorman's gotta get paid.
8:25 AM - BOT Harvey: :'(
8:26 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And sharing that will make poor man not get paid?
8:26 AM - BOT Harvey: If you spill it.
8:26 AM - BOT Harvey: yes.
8:26 AM - BOT Harvey: Maybe...
8:26 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: No good reason to spill it.
8:26 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It'd only create problems for me.
8:26 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I don't fuck people over just to fuck people over.
8:28 AM - BOT Harvey: You should check out my Puush gallery.
8:29 AM - BOT Harvey: I got some awesome pics from some CS lately.
8:29 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Link?
8:29 AM - BOT Harvey: http://puush.me/account?pool=2358898
8:29 AM - BOT Harvey: Got a Bravo case in one drop.
8:29 AM - BOT Harvey: Then like 2 games later, Got a FN UMP Minotaur
8:29 AM - BOT Harvey: :)
8:30 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Lemme find my password.
8:30 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Nice.
8:29 AM - BOT Harvey: $17 in drops.
8:30 AM - BOT Harvey: It was the most I've EVER gotten.
8:30 AM - BOT Harvey: :)
8:32 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Where do I see it?
8:31 AM - BOT Harvey: There are a few there.
8:31 AM - BOT Harvey: Can't you see the gallery?
8:32 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I only see mine.
8:32 AM - BOT Harvey: http://puush.me/account?pool=2358898
8:32 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah, just my gallery.
8:35 AM - BOT Harvey: http://puush.me/2358898/gallery
8:36 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I see it now.
8:41 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Point being? :P
8:41 AM - BOT Harvey: Being what?
8:41 AM - BOT Harvey: What image are you speaking of?
8:42 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: The gallery in general.
8:42 AM - BOT Harvey: Just some fun images.
8:42 AM - BOT Harvey: :)
8:42 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You're a weirdo.
8:42 AM - BOT Harvey: Nah.
8:43 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yes.
2:18 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
2:47 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It's a good thing you're a total dick about contracts.
2:47 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: If you worked with me, I'd hate if you broke an NDA.
7:42 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
8:28 PM - BOT Harvey: Buyers are popping up for my equity.
8:28 PM - BOT Harvey: xD
8:28 PM - BOT Harvey: About to put it up on Reddit.
8:28 PM - BOT Harvey: Get a nice bidding war going.
10:12 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
10:16 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Link me.
10:16 PM - BOT Harvey: If I don't get the offers I want, I may.
10:16 PM - BOT Harvey: xD
11:34 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
11:52 PM - BOT Harvey: http://puu.sh/jI5kq/f915ef9559.jpg
11:53 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I should learn to read :(
11:54 PM - BOT Harvey: Huh?
11:55 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I saw that image yesterday on your gallery but didn't think anything of it.
11:54 PM - BOT Harvey: DON'T share it.
11:55 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I won't, you have my word.
11:55 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What does that mean though? I'm a little confused.
11:55 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Oh shit.
11:55 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Wait.
11:55 PM - BOT Harvey: What do you think it means.
11:56 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Buy a car with our money? :(((
11:56 PM - BOT Harvey: What do y ou think Will would do?
11:56 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I need my money out of TF2Shop asap...
11:57 PM - BOT Harvey: I told you I had an atomic bomb
11:58 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Are you going to detonate after this all blows over and you get your stuff sold?
11:58 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I can just see this on the headlines of CSGOShop.
11:58 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I mean reddit.
11:58 PM - BOT Harvey: It'd be funnier to wait until CSGOShop opened up to everyone.
11:58 PM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
11:59 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: "Mercedes after our balance is 15M?"
11:59 PM - BOT Harvey: How to destroy William Wei in 1 easy step.
11:59 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Wikihow.
11:59 PM - BOT Harvey: More like: "Yatch after customers have put in $15M?
11:59 PM - BOT Harvey: "
Friday, August 21, 2015
12:00 AM - BOT Harvey: We both know how much respect Will has for ANYONE else.
12:01 AM - BOT Harvey: I have the conversation where he essentially said, "I can take your balance if I fucking feel like it."
12:01 AM - BOT Harvey: As well
12:03 AM - BOT Harvey: That was being a customer as well.
12:03 AM - BOT Harvey: :/
12:04 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He's stupid for kicking you out.
12:04 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Want to be CS:GO's edward snowden?
12:04 AM - BOT Harvey: I just wish I had recorded the conversation about him planning on doing illegal shit to Artur.
12:05 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Or our skype call where we were all there when he DDoS'd opskins. And gloated about it.
12:05 AM - BOT Harvey: Yup
12:05 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: We were playing csgo zombie coop... ;p
12:06 AM - BOT Harvey: Yup
12:07 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So he was going to use ALL the balance? Or planned to?
12:07 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Why would he use all the balance and not little by little so it's not noticable or anything.
12:08 AM - BOT Harvey: Because he's an arrogant shithead.
12:08 AM - BOT Harvey: With zero respect for anyone else.
12:09 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Will still hasn't wrote back to me.
12:09 AM - BOT Harvey: I think Artur's an asshole but I don't see him ever as bad as Will.
12:09 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Should I start bringing in the heavies?
12:10 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: This is as bad as Artur gets.
"Hey can you do me a favor?"
"I don't do favors ;)"
"Okay dude but like I sell a lot on your store tho, I'm a good customer to you ;s"
"Fine, what is it?"
12:10 AM - BOT Harvey: I actually messaged him a few times in the past couple of days.
12:10 AM - BOT Harvey: He's responded in seconds.
12:11 AM - BOT Harvey: Each time.
12:11 AM - BOT Harvey: I was BLOWN away.
12:11 AM - BOT Harvey: They were questions he didn't have to answer either.
12:12 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I think Artur deserves the wealth he got. He capitalized off Will's slowness.
12:11 AM - BOT Harvey: Will's incompetance and greed*
12:12 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Gotta give the man props :\
12:12 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah that.
12:12 AM - BOT Harvey: Almost feel like going to Artur and pitching myself a job.
12:12 AM - BOT Harvey: :)
12:12 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Do it.
12:12 AM - BOT Harvey: It would PISS Will off to NO end.
12:12 AM - BOT Harvey: Could give them EVERY secret I knew as well.
12:12 AM - BOT Harvey: It's not like Will did anything for the business model. That was ALL me.
12:13 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Do it dude, they're probably going to pay well.
12:13 AM - BOT Harvey: Gotta figure out my prospects on my shit.
12:13 AM - BOT Harvey: I have a few offers for it with no strings, currently.
12:13 AM - BOT Harvey: They're stupidly low though.
12:14 AM - BOT Harvey: MOST of OP's problems stem from them getting lazy and not working to improve their site.
12:14 AM - BOT Harvey: Should have left and gone to them back in February.
12:14 AM - BOT Harvey: :(
12:15 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You played for the wrong team.
12:16 AM - BOT Harvey: In reality I should have done it for myself from the start.
12:16 AM - BOT Harvey: Jamie and I agreed on that.
12:18 AM - BOT Harvey: http://puu.sh/jIW80/592d8de6ab.jpg
12:18 AM - BOT Harvey: Found Will.
12:18 AM - BOT Harvey: Told you he's in CSGO wayyyy too much.
12:20 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Where is he?
12:20 AM - BOT Harvey: The middle?
12:21 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: The dead guy over the box?
12:21 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Hah.
12:20 AM - BOT Harvey: The lazy fuck lounging on the box.
12:20 AM - BOT Harvey: Dead?
12:20 AM - BOT Harvey: He's no dead, he's lounging.
12:21 AM - BOT Harvey: Come on, it's Will.
12:21 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He looks like he's about to fuckin rip you off over the counter.
12:21 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: ...Will.
12:21 AM - BOT Harvey: HAHAHAHA
3:30 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
3:36 AM - BOT Harvey: O.o
3:36 AM - BOT Harvey: You see the markets?
5:32 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Snooze.
10:41 AM - Your state is set to Offline.
10:41 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Offline.
10:41 AM - Lost connection to Steam, will rejoin chat automatically when connection regained.
10:42 AM - Connected again and rejoined chat.
10:42 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Snooze.
11:59 AM - BOT Harvey: xD
11:59 AM - BOT Harvey: Almost 100x on some simple S&P500 puts.
11:59 AM - BOT Harvey: MOTHER FUCKING INSANE
11:59 AM - BOT Harvey: http://puu.sh/jJpp7/527f00e1f5.png
12:00 PM - BOT Harvey: That's less than 2 days.
12:00 PM - BOT Harvey: Told you real finance is SOOOO much more fun.
3:07 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Offline.
Sunday, August 23, 2015
4:46 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is currently offline, they will receive your message the next time they log in.
11:57 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Offline.
Monday, August 24, 2015
4:06 AM - BOT Harvey: Bravo...
4:06 AM - BOT Harvey: Yo, when you get online, I wanted to ask if I could borrow a few grand. I owe some money this week and this CSGOShop sale is taking forever. :s
4:06 AM - BOT Harvey: Will also cut off my selling from CSGOShop so I can't sell my shit.
4:09 AM - BOT Harvey: I have an offer of $40k standing right now from another party so I'm good for the money.
12:10 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
12:20 PM - BOT Harvey: Morning.
12:20 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yo.
12:20 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I just got back from LA.
12:20 PM - BOT Harvey: Haha.
12:20 PM - BOT Harvey: Was wondering why you weren't online.
12:21 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Caused lots of trouble ;)
12:20 PM - BOT Harvey: Figures.
12:21 PM - BOT Harvey: Fucking Mexican in LA.
12:21 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Topkek.
12:21 PM - BOT Harvey: You walked into it.
12:21 PM - BOT Harvey: :s
12:22 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Meh, got dicked around at a rave so me and my bro made some fun.
12:22 PM - BOT Harvey: Haha.
12:22 PM - BOT Harvey: I'm just watching the markets.
12:22 PM - BOT Harvey: Dude they were INSANE this morning.
12:22 PM - BOT Harvey: Opened 7% down.
12:22 PM - BOT Harvey: xD
12:22 PM - BOT Harvey: They were so low that market circuit breakers (that have only been put in in the past 5 years), stopped the market from actually opening.
12:23 PM - BOT Harvey: Shit had to be brought online by human traders.
12:23 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Wow.
12:23 PM - BOT Harvey: Yeah, it was a sight to see.
12:24 PM - BOT Harvey: BIDU (Baidu, China's largest search engine, $50B+ company) opened 25% down.
12:24 PM - BOT Harvey: It was nuts.
12:25 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Owned by tencent right?
12:24 PM - BOT Harvey: No...
12:25 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Wait, I'm probably thinking of something else.
12:25 PM - BOT Harvey: Yeah...
12:25 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Qq
12:26 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: That's the one.
12:25 PM - BOT Harvey: Tencent isn't even publicly traded.
12:25 PM - BOT Harvey: It's an OTC stock.
12:25 PM - BOT Harvey: (over the counter)
12:26 PM - BOT Harvey: But yeah, this morning was NUTS.
12:26 PM - BOT Harvey: Could have gone short last week with $10k of options last week and walked with over $1M Friday or today.
12:28 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: What the dick.
12:28 PM - BOT Harvey: Dude, I told you options were the REAL place to make a lot of money.
12:28 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
12:28 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It's also the place to lose your ass just as fast.
12:28 PM - BOT Harvey: Yeah.
12:28 PM - BOT Harvey: It's why I never shorted a single option.
12:28 PM - BOT Harvey: Manage my capital correctly.
12:28 PM - BOT Harvey: Etc.
12:29 PM - BOT Harvey: I lose when markets are dull.
12:29 PM - BOT Harvey: When shit's real, I make insane returns.
12:30 PM - BOT Harvey: You get my message about a loan?
12:30 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah.
12:31 PM - BOT Harvey: Ok
12:31 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: How much exactly and how long do you need it for?
12:31 PM - BOT Harvey: $2k and shouldn't be more than a week or two.
12:31 PM - BOT Harvey: I'm just waiting for my shit with CSGOShop to close.
12:32 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Bills to pay or what?
12:32 PM - BOT Harvey: Yeah.
12:33 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Sure I can help.
12:32 PM - BOT Harvey: I was NOT expecting to have to wait sooooo long to get paid by Will.
12:32 PM - BOT Harvey: Thanks.
12:33 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It would be done through paypal.
12:33 PM - BOT Harvey: That's fine.
12:33 PM - BOT Harvey: bloodvayne000@yahoo.com
12:33 PM - BOT Harvey: Let me know terms.
12:33 PM - BOT Harvey: I realized after this past weekend, I'm not keeping my CSGOShop shit.
12:34 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I need it back in a gift or simple refund so neither of us get fee'd.
12:34 PM - BOT Harvey: Will's WAYYY too much of a risk.
12:34 PM - BOT Harvey: That's fine.
12:34 PM - BOT Harvey: I'll probably refund it to close the loop.
12:34 PM - BOT Harvey: That way you don't have any tax issues either.
12:35 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It wouldn't cause too much issues either way, I just don't want PP taking unnecessary money.
12:36 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Cash sent.
12:36 PM - BOT Harvey: Thanks Bravo.
12:37 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Np.
12:36 PM - BOT Harvey: I'll have it back ASAp.
12:37 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Sure.
12:37 PM - BOT Harvey: If you'd like a bit of work or just pocket the favor, let me know.
12:37 PM - BOT Harvey: As I say, you can never have too many people who owe you a favor.
12:37 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Will do, I'll pocket for now.
12:37 PM - BOT Harvey: At this rate the market's going to be right back up.
12:38 PM - BOT Harvey: Flash correction. -.-'
12:39 PM - BOT Harvey: NFLX would have been a solid buy for 21% return on straight stock.
12:39 PM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
12:40 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: :(
12:40 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I like those kinda returns.
12:40 PM - BOT Harvey: TSLA is about the same.
12:41 PM - BOT Harvey: Your brother's over 18 right?
12:41 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Whihc?
12:41 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: which*
12:41 PM - BOT Harvey: Any of them.
12:42 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: They're all over 18.
12:42 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So yeah.
12:41 PM - BOT Harvey: Still say you should get a TDA account open.
12:42 PM - BOT Harvey: Pop in $5 and get live data.
12:42 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It's not like I don't want to.
12:42 PM - BOT Harvey: Best data platform around.
12:42 PM - BOT Harvey: You don't ever need to make a trade.
12:42 PM - BOT Harvey: You can get the data in another places.
12:42 PM - BOT Harvey: Yahoo! or Google finance.
12:42 PM - BOT Harvey: ThinkOrSwim is just THE BEST data platform around.
12:42 PM - BOT Harvey: At least at the "free" level.
12:43 PM - BOT Harvey: There are a couple of SUPER amazing ones but they're $200/month.
12:43 PM - BOT Harvey: It's even got a really awesome chatroom inside it.
12:43 PM - BOT Harvey: 2,000+ people in it during each trading day.
12:43 PM - BOT Harvey: 97% are lurkers but still.
12:44 PM - BOT Harvey: I got banned from speaking so I can't contribute. :(
12:47 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Why'd you get banned?
12:49 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Also how much shit do you need to sell on csgoshop?
12:58 PM - BOT Harvey: I got banned because I dicussed another broker (though I was telling about how they delayed my trade).
12:58 PM - BOT Harvey: Just sell my cases.
12:58 PM - BOT Harvey: But Will cut me off for now.
12:58 PM - BOT Harvey: :(
12:59 PM - BOT Harvey: I have $15k of inventory from Will though.
1:00 PM - BOT Harvey: He was stupid enough to put it in my account after started doing very shithead stuff to me.
1:00 PM - BOT Harvey: So I reset SteamGuard.
1:00 PM - BOT Harvey: Until I get paid.
1:00 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
1:00 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Okay.
1:00 PM - BOT Harvey: I have plenty of collateral either way.
1:01 PM - BOT Harvey: Look on my friend's list, Locker0013
1:02 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Rekt.
1:02 PM - BOT Harvey: Lots of items, but lower end stuff that moves fast and gets the best margin.
1:03 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yaeh.
1:03 PM - BOT Harvey: Told Justin something they did in the past few days was very stupid and there was a better way of doing it.
1:03 PM - BOT Harvey: He tells me, "We have it covered, you don't have to worry about it."
1:04 PM - BOT Harvey: This morning Will comes to me and asks me to explain why it was stupid.
1:04 PM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
1:04 PM - BOT Harvey: Yeah...I'm not helping you figure out your problems.
1:04 PM - BOT Harvey: I'm about to tell him I'm going to bill him at $300/hr if he keeps bugging me.
1:05 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: And Will still hasn't wrote back to me about getting my tf2shop balance emptied...
1:06 PM - BOT Harvey: He's totally clueless.
1:07 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Should I contact people like SR that would make him start moving faster?
1:07 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It's not right to completely ignore someone who you owe 9.5k to.
1:07 PM - BOT Harvey: Will doesn't give a shit about SR.
1:07 PM - BOT Harvey: I know that for a fact.
1:08 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: How so?
1:08 PM - BOT Harvey: When Sam got an SR ban.
1:08 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He still let him sell, topkek.
1:08 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Sounds like the right move anyway.
1:08 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Fuck SR.
1:08 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: SR has been shit for the past 3 years.
1:08 PM - BOT Harvey: SR banned Sam for shitty reasons.
1:09 PM - BOT Harvey: He was dealing with someone who was banned forever ago (rightly so) but put in an appeal a month later (and had the offended party saying to give him a second chance), working as the go-to contact for selling supply.
1:09 PM - BOT Harvey: For a community site.
1:10 PM - BOT Harvey: They were just banning EVERYONE for it.
1:10 PM - BOT Harvey: Then they were saying "well there was other stuff too."
1:10 PM - BOT Harvey: But refused to share it.
1:10 PM - BOT Harvey: So no ban.
1:10 PM - BOT Harvey: SR's pretty pointless to be honest.
1:10 PM - BOT Harvey: It's only good for P2P selling which youshouldn't be doing anymore anyway.
1:11 PM - BOT Harvey: There are sites that take care of just that.
1:11 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Pretty much.
1:12 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Even before cash sites hit, SR was pointless.
1:13 PM - BOT Harvey: The cash sites get better information than SR could ever to get.
1:14 PM - BOT Harvey: And they're less likely to be corrupt.
1:14 PM - BOT Harvey: ever hope to get*
1:14 PM - BOT Harvey: Plus, they're paid staff so issues are more likely to be covered.
1:15 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Yeah.
1:15 PM - BOT Harvey: Every once in a while you'll see someone have to wait a month. Still better than the 6-12 it takes for SR to do anything.
1:15 PM - BOT Harvey: Plus, nobody appointed SR to anything.
1:15 PM - BOT Harvey: The cash sites only ban you from their site.
1:16 PM - BOT Harvey: They don't mark you or anything.
1:16 PM - BOT Harvey: And they keep their bans private.
9:01 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
9:50 PM - Your state is set to Offline.
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9:50 PM - Lost connection to Steam, will rejoin chat automatically when connection regained.
9:50 PM - Connected again and rejoined chat.
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11:19 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I won $4k on jackpot today ;P
Tuesday, August 25, 2015
12:00 AM - BOT Harvey: So I don't have to pay you back right?
12:00 AM - BOT Harvey: :)
12:01 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Nope!
12:01 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Said no one ever.
12:01 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: :P
12:01 AM - BOT Harvey: Haha
12:01 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Twas a good day, beat out this faggot streamer with 180k subs on youtube.
5:59 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Away.
6:39 PM - Your state is set to Offline.
6:39 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Offline.
6:39 PM - Lost connection to Steam, will rejoin chat automatically when connection regained.
6:44 PM - Connected again and rejoined chat.
12:58 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
3:35 AM - BOT Harvey: Almost thinking about using that money to go make some more on the market then pay my bills.
3:35 AM - BOT Harvey: xD
3:36 AM - BOT Harvey: Did some simulated trades yesterday.
3:36 AM - BOT Harvey: Made $15k on $30k.
3:37 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Do it dude.
3:36 AM - BOT Harvey: Would have made more as well as I'd have tossed $3k on some final stuff that moved at the very end.
3:37 AM - BOT Harvey: Essentially use $3k of my profits to gamble on shit going to hell.
3:37 AM - BOT Harvey: Which it did.
3:37 AM - BOT Harvey: Probably was a 2-3x on that.
3:40 AM - BOT Harvey: o.o it'd be about a 4x right now.
3:40 AM - BOT Harvey: Still not bad.
3:40 AM - BOT Harvey: Wish you were 1 year older.
3:40 AM - BOT Harvey: You could learn trading the way I did, in a super crazy market.
3:41 AM - BOT Harvey: Makes trading in calm periods a losers game but in the crazy stuff, you're a super star.
6:16 AM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Offline.
9:02 AM - BOT Harvey: Damn...PayPal was fast this time. Got the money into my bank account yesterday.
11:42 AM - Your state is set to Offline.
11:42 AM - Lost connection to Steam, will rejoin chat automatically when connection regained.
11:42 AM - Connected again and rejoined chat.
8:19 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
9:11 PM - Your state is set to Offline.
9:11 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Offline.
9:11 PM - Lost connection to Steam, will rejoin chat automatically when connection regained.
9:11 PM - Connected again and rejoined chat.
1:53 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
1:57 PM - BOT Harvey: Question.
1:57 PM - BOT Harvey: How long does it take for you to get a withdrawal from OPSkins?
1:58 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: 4-6 days
1:58 PM - BOT Harvey: From when you put the request in until the money is in your PayPal account to spend.
1:58 PM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
1:58 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Still better than Will time.
1:58 PM - BOT Harvey: Yeah.
1:58 PM - BOT Harvey: 4-6 months
1:59 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Hahahaa.
2:01 PM - BOT Harvey: It's true.
2:02 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Sadly.
2:03 PM - BOT Harvey: Don't think CSGOShop will ever open selling at this rate.
2:03 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Why do you say?
2:03 PM - BOT Harvey: Will time.
2:03 PM - BOT Harvey: :(
2:04 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I think we could do more damage if it was private.
2:04 PM - BOT Harvey: I wanna get in a chatroom but I need $1k balance to get in.
2:04 PM - BOT Harvey: Used to be free.
2:04 PM - BOT Harvey: Or maybe it's because I had gotten banned from speaking ...
2:04 PM - BOT Harvey: Who knows.
2:05 PM - BOT Harvey: I think you'd make more if it was private as well.
2:06 PM - BOT Harvey: Ah well.
2:06 PM - BOT Harvey: I'm done with Will.
2:06 PM - BOT Harvey: So not my problem.
2:19 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
2:41 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: 3edgy
2:40 PM - BOT Harvey: Haha.
2:40 PM - BOT Harvey: Meh, I know more than most people.
2:40 PM - BOT Harvey: That's all.
2:41 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
2:41 PM - BOT Harvey: I know all the players, all the new people coming to the game.
2:41 PM - BOT Harvey: All the tech, all the venders.
2:41 PM - BOT Harvey: And I know better places to put money right now.
6:32 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Offline.
7:56 PM - Your state is set to Offline.
7:56 PM - Lost connection to Steam, will rejoin chat automatically when connection regained.
7:57 PM - Connected again and rejoined chat.
9:33 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
9:38 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: So I got everything set up, gonna start reading Quants tonight.
9:39 PM - BOT Harvey: Oh your Kindle.
9:40 PM - BOT Harvey: I've have just read it on a computer.
9:40 PM - BOT Harvey: But whatever.
9:41 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I'm doing a new method to complete tasks and get less lazy.
9:41 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: A "to do" list. So far pretty effective.
9:40 PM - BOT Harvey: Step 1) Don't do whatever Will does
9:41 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Kek.
9:41 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Step 2) kek
9:41 PM - BOT Harvey: Step 2) Done
9:41 PM - BOT Harvey: Man, everyone's running a quant fund these days.
9:41 PM - BOT Harvey: It's sad.
9:41 PM - BOT Harvey: I interviewed at 2.
3:52 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Away.
4:25 PM - BOT Harvey: Are you sure TF2Shop even has the money to pay you?
4:25 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter is now Online.
4:27 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: I don't care, it's money owed. I have chargeback protection as given when I signed on as a seller. If he has no money on TF2Shop then he'll just have to pay out of his pocket.
4:27 PM - BOT Harvey: What I mean is are you sure he even has the money to PAY you?
4:27 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He most certainly does.
4:27 PM - BOT Harvey: How do you know?
4:28 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: It's will.
4:28 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He has money.
4:27 PM - BOT Harvey: Doesn't mean that's true.
4:29 PM - BOT Harvey: I've started to wonder if he's not paying you guys because he's using your money to fund other stuff.
4:29 PM - BOT Harvey: We BOTH know he has no problem with stealing.
4:47 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Right.
4:47 PM - BOT Harvey: :( looking for a job sucks
4:48 PM - BOT Harvey: Saw the site got a LOT of inventory.
4:48 PM - BOT Harvey: Was that all you?
4:48 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Most likely.
4:48 PM - BOT Harvey: How much did you list?
4:48 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Someone has to do it.
4:48 PM - BOT Harvey: How many items did you list*
4:49 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Hard to say. I try to upload 300-400 items THAT SELL FAST per day.
4:49 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: You know, those small $2-5 guns that just fly off the shelves?
4:49 PM - BOT Harvey: :(
4:49 PM - BOT Harvey: I'm about to say, I'll list for ya.
4:49 PM - BOT Harvey: xD
4:49 PM - BOT Harvey: Will's trying to cheap out as usual.
4:49 PM - BOT Harvey: "I'll pay you $15k for your 20%"
4:49 PM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
4:50 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He has money then.
4:50 PM - BOT Harvey: No, the shop has money in the account.
4:50 PM - BOT Harvey: Remember, Will would take YOUR money and use it to pay for stuff.
4:50 PM - BOT Harvey: There's a LOT of seller money in that account.
4:52 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: honestly I think the next step is to start lowkey threatening him for mymoney
4:52 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: like talking to SR
4:52 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: start up bad rap about him on redit
4:51 PM - BOT Harvey: How much does he owe you?
4:52 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: $9.5k and it's just SITTING THERE.
4:52 PM - BOT Harvey: Go for it.
4:52 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
4:52 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: At this point I'd rather give it to my Mom to buy a car.
4:52 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Like it's just money frozen.
4:53 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: He may not care about SR, but people still do on Reddit.
4:53 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Reddit hate machine is effective, so that's why he'd still abide by them.
4:53 PM - BOT Harvey: If I could get it to ya, could I get half?
4:53 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
4:53 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: No...
4:53 PM - BOT Harvey: :'<
4:54 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: One way or another, I'll have the money gotten.
4:54 PM - BOT Harvey: I want some money. :'(
4:54 PM - BOT Harvey: Correction, I NEED som.
4:54 PM - BOT Harvey: some*
4:55 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: :/
5:01 PM - BOT Harvey: I'm about to sell those items that I've been holding.
5:01 PM - BOT Harvey: :)
5:06 PM - BOT Harvey: Actually I'll probably sell my community sticker capsules in the next week or so.
5:06 PM - BOT Harvey: They'll be worth around $1k.
5:16 PM - BOT Harvey: Question for ya.
5:17 PM - BOT Harvey: Legit one.
5:17 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter: Sure
5:17 PM - BOT Harvey: IF I were to go and make another market competitor, would you have legitimate interest in investing?
5:17 PM - @Teeird - Follow me on Twitter has changed their name to @Teeird - ♫take me orally♫.
5:18 PM - BOT Harvey: Grosss.....
5:18 PM - @Teeird - ♫take me orally♫: It attracts all the chicks on steam.
5:18 PM - BOT Harvey: The question though.
5:19 PM - @Teeird - ♫take me orally♫: Depends.
5:18 PM - BOT Harvey: On?
5:19 PM - @Teeird - ♫take me orally♫: Why would I Invest instead of doing something myself?
5:19 PM - BOT Harvey: Would you know where to start?
5:20 PM - @Teeird - ♫take me orally♫: Maybe, but that's why I have friends everywhere to help me.
5:20 PM - BOT Harvey: I'm not like Will.
5:21 PM - BOT Harvey: I like to have active investors, that assist in growing.
5:21 PM - BOT Harvey: You wouldn't get equity but rather a SAFE with a clause to get equity at a predetermined valuation if further money was not raised.
5:22 PM - BOT Harvey: I'd also give a board seat.
5:22 PM - BOT Harvey: You're not old enough now so you couldn't get it but you'd get it later on.
5:23 PM - BOT Harvey: (directors have to be 18 in any state)
5:24 PM - @Teeird - ♫take me orally♫: That sounds too familiar than what was presented at CSGOShop.
5:24 PM - BOT Harvey: Difference between Will and I is I live up to every one of my agreements.
5:24 PM - BOT Harvey: And I wouldn't make you work for any of it.
5:25 PM - BOT Harvey: Also, a SAFE, in the event of earlier liquidation, gets paid out first.
5:25 PM - BOT Harvey: So a sale or bankruptcy, gets paid first.
5:26 PM - @Teeird - ♫take me orally♫: So what, it'd be a CSGOShop clone?
5:25 PM - BOT Harvey: No.
5:25 PM - BOT Harvey: Better.
5:26 PM - @Teeird - ♫take me orally♫: Opskins clone? Same model is what I'm saying.
5:26 PM - BOT Harvey: Define "clone".
5:27 PM - @Teeird - ♫take me orally♫: "Marketplace that you can buy/sell skins for real money.
5:27 PM - BOT Harvey: Then yes.
5:27 PM - BOT Harvey: Except that's not a clone as much as "a business type".
5:28 PM - BOT Harvey: The problem with OPSkins and CSGOShop are they aren't a startup.
5:29 PM - BOT Harvey: And neither are tech oriented.
5:30 PM - BOT Harvey: Again, just seeing if you'd be interested.
5:30 PM - BOT Harvey: I assume you're not.
5:32 PM - @Teeird - ♫take me orally♫: I'll have to see and of course check a few things.
5:31 PM - BOT Harvey: Such as?
5:32 PM - @Teeird - ♫take me orally♫: Outworldly things.
5:32 PM - BOT Harvey: Ah.
5:32 PM - BOT Harvey: Just don't say anything to Will.
5:33 PM - @Teeird - ♫take me orally♫: No reason to.
5:32 PM - BOT Harvey: We both know all he'd do is go whine and threaten to do shit.
5:33 PM - @Teeird - ♫take me orally♫: Not that he'd actually read whatever I shoot him.
5:33 PM - BOT Harvey: I have no non-compete. :)
5:33 PM - BOT Harvey: Not currently anyway.
5:33 PM - BOT Harvey: :D
5:33 PM - @Teeird - ♫take me orally♫: gg
5:33 PM - BOT Harvey: He was quite dumb and didn't ever give me one.
5:33 PM - BOT Harvey: Unlike Will, I'm not looking to suck it dry either.
5:34 PM - BOT Harvey: I would take a nice salary but I'd put the rest into growing it as large as possible.
5:34 PM - BOT Harvey: Then once I'm near the top, THEN we take money out.
5:35 PM - BOT Harvey: But OP will never expand past CSGO and CSGOShop has Will at the helm.
5:35 PM - BOT Harvey: -.-'
5:36 PM - BOT Harvey: Heck we both know Artur's not even bothering to improve upon the website.
5:37 PM - BOT Harvey: http://www.ycombinator.com/documents/#safe
5:37 PM - @Teeird - ♫take me orally♫: Lol.
5:37 PM - BOT Harvey: That's the document I'd use.
5:37 PM - BOT Harvey: I'd add a few terms in there to better take care of the investor.
5:38 PM - BOT Harvey: It's simple, effective, and gets everyone on the same page.
5:40 PM - @Teeird - ♫take me orally♫: Interesting.
5:39 PM - BOT Harvey: I looked it up a few weeks ago.
5:39 PM - BOT Harvey: I thought the same thing.
5:40 PM - BOT Harvey: It's not convertible debt (the standard in early stage investing) but it's not equity either.
5:43 PM - BOT Harvey: Oh and another benefit of it all, Will would get screwed. :)
5:49 PM - @Teeird - ♫take me orally♫: Always a plus.
6:07 PM - BOT Harvey: Also, unlike Will, anyone with equity that didn't get it from a cash investment, would get it put under a vesting schedule.
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