Fighting The English Language

Tallardar-05/19/2017
man
whoever edits for EN24 really does not have a grasp on english

Tallardar-05/19/2017
@Mari "Little Daddy" Vauder do you think my students you saw yesterday would be better than the EN24 editing team? because i think so(edited)

<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/19/2017
probably
did mari really get you fired becuase no one would want their kids taught by anyone willing to associate with him/(edited)
woops wrong person
@Tallardar
becuase I could totally see that happening

Tyd Drakken [SNUFF]-05/19/2017
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

stark-05/19/2017
Lmao
Dont give hendrick shit like that man

<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/19/2017
plz I'm shiitting on mari
well mostly

Mari "Little Daddy" Vauder-05/19/2017
man them kids were just so unbelievably adorable
it was funny as hell watching talladar teach a class
and yes they could easily write better
even teo
lmao

Tallardar-05/19/2017
@<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber no
as super weird with stuff as korea is, they aren't that weird
also Teo isn't that bad

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
What on EN24 is bad regarding English specifically?

Tallardar-05/19/2017
just energetic as fuck
well the grammar is poor

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
like what

Tallardar-05/19/2017
as is the sentence structure
so yeah should work on your grammar skills m8m8m8

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
ok like what?
Or are you just trying to get my attention?

Mari "Little Daddy" Vauder-05/19/2017
lmao

<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/19/2017
to be fair thats what editors are for
except at en24
thats people like bobmon

BobFromMarketing-05/19/2017
Can we not use bobmon and people in the same sentence
Thanks

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
As is usual people complain and when asked to back up their assertions they say meaningless things instead.

<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/19/2017
sorry "people"

Tallardar-05/19/2017
i was busy
sorry your feelings were hurt
and i mean, saying "your (EN24s) articles have poor grammar" is pretty much what it means(edited)
I recommend getting a hold of an APA or even MLA guide for grammar. There's plenty of resources available(edited)
"In many ways reddit revolutionized the way the Eve community interacts. The official Eve Online forums tend to be too moderated offering none of that “bite” which makes destroying your enemy’s stuff so enjoyable. TheMittanidotCom’s forum (INN before the brand renaming) was a massive failure despite the site’s popularity at the time and having the financial and numeric backing of the game’s largest coalition." there's a good number of grammatical errors in this section that almost anyone can point out for you. As a writer you should probably learn to spot these things before publishing, or hire editors who can spot the errors and amend them as that's the job of an editor.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
Why don't you point them out? I usually don't take advice from failed tmc writers that got purged but I'm feeling humble today. Go ahead.

Tallardar-05/19/2017
LOL

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
 Go on let's see.

Tallardar-05/19/2017
Can you tell me what a pronoun is?
Because thats an easy grammatical error you made

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
stop stalling and get to the point
Use this opportunity to show off your English degree already

Mari "Little Daddy" Vauder-05/19/2017
This sounds like you stalling Seraph

Tallardar-05/19/2017
I don't have an English degree though?

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
I'm waiting to see an example already

Tallardar-05/19/2017
I mean I simply pointed out errors in EN24s writing, which prompted Seraph to cry and throw ad hominem. What incentive is there to point out his grammatical mistakes?

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
Ah playing the victim now so you don't have to back your assertions from 10 minutes ago. For some reason it takes you more than 10 minutes to point out these "obvious" grammar mistakes.

Tallardar-05/19/2017
Not playing victim, pointing out how you reacted to being told you made grammar mistakes.
Something most people can hear and not pout about

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
I'm dismissing you because you're dismissable. But that's nothing new.
Are you going to point out the "obvious" grammar mistakes or are you going to whine some more?

Tallardar-05/19/2017
Tell me what a pronoun is.

Tallardar-05/19/2017
Because it will show you what mistake you made.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=pronoun+definition&oq=pronoun+definition&gs_l=psy-ab.3...221.4016.0.4201.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0._I2Jr3G083U

Google is your friend

Tallardar-05/19/2017
Ok so what pronouns are in that passage?

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
I don't know English. Please help me. I can't find the pronouns. Explain it to me.

Tallardar-05/19/2017
I'm teaching you how to improve

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
Of course you are.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
How am I suppose to find pronouns when I'm so bad at grammar Tal? halp me pweeze

CCP Gay-05/19/2017
Tallardar, I know you mean well, but seraph is too far gone to see any kind of reason

Tallardar-05/19/2017
Lol

Mari "Little Daddy" Vauder-05/19/2017
^^^

BobFromMarketing-05/19/2017
A noun with a sponsor
efb
God damn scroll

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
I'm asking for the reason? Show me the mistake and I'll change it. I don't have a problem with it. But get to the point and stop jerking off

BobFromMarketing-05/19/2017
That was re: [4:38 AM] Tallardar: Tell me what a pronoun is.

CCP Gay-05/19/2017
Most students learn in a more natural way if they solve the problem them selves, rather than just being shown the issue and told what the answer is
Afk

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
But this has nothing to do with that. This has to do with Talladar's personal feelings toward me. If he had any sincere wish to help out he might even msg me privately instead of being insulting here for an audience.

CCP Gay-05/19/2017
Well it's pretty fun to watch you go on the defensive really
Tyd Drakken [SNUFF]-05/19/2017
(edited)

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
All I did was ask what the grammatical mistake was.

CCP Gay-05/19/2017
He told you how to find it

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
Well I'm just a poor foreign kid I have no idea how to find those big words in English. Since he volunteered to help he may as well get to the point.

CCP Gay-05/19/2017
Uhhuh
Well it was fun playing poke the pig but I have some work to do
Bye

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
 you do that

Tallardar-05/19/2017
“But this has nothing to do with that. This has to do with Talladar's personal feelings toward me. If he had any sincere wish to help out he might even msg me privately instead of being insulting here for an audience.”
Incorrect

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
So you have some genuine sincere intentions toward me as a friend now?

Tallardar-05/19/2017
No
As a student of English

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
Right. Well get to it student of English. It's been over half an hour and nothing from you yet
Don't have to grade the whole paper. Just start with the first thing and we can work from there.

Tallardar-05/19/2017
What pronouns are in the passage I quoted?

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
I don't know any. My English very bad

Tallardar-05/19/2017
Ok. Look up what a pronoun is and tell me what they are. Use examples.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
I can't. I'm bad at English.
Please show me yourself since you are a student of English.

Tallardar-05/19/2017
That's evident from your writing.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
Then why are you asking me to do things I'm obviously incapable of doing?
Show me the grammar mistakes yourself. Clearly I'm bad at this.

Tallardar-05/19/2017
I never saidbyou were incapable

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
Oh well I am. Very very incapable. So please go ahead and show me my mistake.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
 I just want to know what I did wrong so I can learn English.

Tallardar-05/19/2017
You didn't use a pronoun properly.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
Okay which one

Tallardar-05/19/2017
Please read what BFM said above. It will help illuminate the answer for you.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
Point them out. I don't know what pronouns are.
Illuminate it for me. I'm not very good at English.
Any semblance of the concept escapes me.

Tallardar-05/19/2017
But then you won't learn.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
Let's put this to bed. You're full of shit. You have no idea what you're talking about. If you actually had an example of something you'd just point it out rather than stall for 40+ minutes

Mari "Little Daddy" Vauder-05/19/2017
Okay you two, stop arguing, you're  both talking to brick walls, it's clogging the chat

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
bbl ciao

Tallardar-05/19/2017
I mean you insult people who try to teach you as well as refuse to listen so...

Seraph IX Basarab-05/19/2017
You can DM me I don't want to argue with you here

Tallardar-05/19/2017
@Mari "Little Daddy" Vauder what is the pronoun in the passage?

Mari "Little Daddy" Vauder-05/19/2017
Your?

Tallardar-05/19/2017
Good. What is a proper noun from that passage?
Hint: it's the website that Dreddit rhymes with.

Mari "Little Daddy" Vauder-05/19/2017
Is it something awful
Waaaait a second

Tallardar-05/19/2017
Why do you capitalize a proper noun? Because it, unlike a general noun, is the official name of a specific thing.
So...the obvious grammatical mistake is that "reddit" is incorrect. A concept taught at the elementary school level.

Lucia Denniard-05/19/2017
capitalising brand names? :thonking:

Tallardar-05/19/2017
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<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/19/2017
so lemme get this straight
seraph asks for examples of bad grammar
gets shown some
rage quits

Tallardar-05/19/2017
no no
he was asking for examples, i was trying to teach him how to see the errors that were there, and then he raged quit

BobFromMarketing-05/19/2017
You know better than trying to make him think @Tallardar
Thats just rude

[ZULU] BDD-05/19/2017
everyone knows line members can't think for themselves
conflicting information probably caused his brain to explode

<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/19/2017
wait so a hour ago we were talking about how tallandar teaches english
then seraph says hes full of shit and doesn't know what hes talking about
then gets proven otherwise
and rage quits

Mari "Little Daddy" Vauder-05/19/2017
Talladar is a good teacher

<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/19/2017
god I love him

Mari "Little Daddy" Vauder-05/19/2017
And fun

[ZULU] BDD-05/19/2017
imagine that all it took to get rid of seraph was a little common sense

<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/19/2017
like pouring water on a witch

BobFromMarketing-05/19/2017
[5:12 AM] Seraph IX Basarab: You can DM me I don't want to argue with you here
So uh
Thats it gents
End times are here
Seraph backed down from an argument

Tyd Drakken [SNUFF]-05/19/2017
^
im looking outside and I see no nukes
or metors
or snow

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
how often do you think twice before stepping on a bug
(in case you don't understand the human race is the bug)
checkmate

Tallardar-05/20/2017
@[ZULU] BDD DID YOU SAY TWICE?!?!?!
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TWICE "Like OOH-AHH(OOH-AHH하게)" M/V

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YouTube
jypentertainment
TWICE(트와이스) "KNOCK KNOCK" M/V

or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9-TIy7WPQI
YouTube
1theK (원더케이)
[MV] SISTAR(씨스타) _ SHAKE IT




Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
@Tallardar so your big argument is I didn't capitalize reddit? Oh okay. Man you got me. Good one.

@<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber Didn't rage quit. It was 6 AM my time.

@Svara You should ask Laz if that's what you really think. See what he says.

stark-05/20/2017
That's the minor and obvious mistake in that one sentence.
You're a shit writer seraph
Not necessarily in terms of material
But execution

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Well by all means you can correct me.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Assad-talking-to-me.jpg

Hmm? Anything?


stark-05/20/2017
"In many ways Reddit revolutionized the way the Eve community interacts. The official Eve Online forums tend to be too strictly moderated, offering none of the “bite” which makes destroying your enemy’s stuff so enjoyable. The forums on TMC were a massive failure despite their popularity at the time, and having the financial and numerical backing of the game’s largest coalition."
But that last sentence in particular is constructed too poorly to really fix

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
How so
stark-05/20/2017
The sequencing of your ideas, and particularly how the pacing is.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
And what grammar rules are broken?
Because that just sounds like a style preference complaint at best

stark-05/20/2017
I fixed that
Read the original
And compare
And style is everything
Otherwise you're just another jumped up reddit poster
The point is an article is not a forum post

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
You shortened themittanidotcom to TMC, and took out the "((INN before the brand renaming)" portion. Neither of which is an issue

stark-05/20/2017
You can elaborate more and not try to stick three points into one sentence, forcing you to use grammatical acrobatics to have a semblance of clear sentence structure

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
"TheMittanidotCom’s forum (INN before the brand renaming) was a massive failure despite the site’s popularity at the time and having the financial and numeric backing of the game’s largest coalition."

What three points? The TMC forum failed even though the site was popular and they had coalition backing.

Svara-05/20/2017
it is certainly one way to conduct a rivalry anyway; 3better must be smug off his ass

stark-05/20/2017
The site was popular, it had the numbers and wealth of the Imperium behind it, it failed, it rebranded

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
So again which grammar laws were broken? It really just seems like you'd prefer a different order to events. And your pattern would imply it re-branded because of the forum's failure...which was not the case.

stark-05/20/2017
Don't get pissy about semantics. The primary issue in that segment with regards to the low level grammar rules you are referring to is a run on sentence and improper use of parentheses. I am additionally trying to help you with higher level concerns that help you avoid fundamental mistakes like run on sentences.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
It's not a run on sentence. And okay I didn't put a comma after and. Got me.

stark-05/20/2017
But if you wish to be as contrary as possible, be my guest.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
It's not about wishing to be contrary. It's that first off neither you or talladar are interested with actually helping out. This is a way to shit talk me over eve stuff with nonsensical complaints. Secondly, none of you provided actual critique that has any real relevance. Okay I didn't capitalize reddit and I missed a comma here and there. Man, get me up against the wall. This has more to do with you guys feeling good about yourselves trying to attack me than to be helpful.

stark-05/20/2017
Consider this last thing I have to say; if your language is bent to your purpose instead of your purpose being bent to your language, then people trying to attack you ad hominem over your writing style and grammar becomes something that makes them look foolish.
At present people dismiss what you write when you elaborate on these subjects because your lack of effort in properly refining your writing makes it look akin to a Gevlon Goblin blog rant.
And I really don't get why you're defensive. I'm slinging shit on reddit or in a comment section.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Why would I bend my purpose on the language? The purpose transcends language. I can write it in Romanian if I needed to.

stark-05/20/2017
And I know I'm missing commas and shit there, because typing more than two sentences on a phone is a form of draconian toruture

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Because you have to be a pretty obnoxious twat to complain about commas on the internet. I recognize the article doesn't have 100 percent proper comma grammar. I've written hundreds of papers in my time at university.

stark-05/20/2017
It's not just the comma grammar, friend. It's the choice of words, the pacing of ideas, the sentence structure.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Pacing and sentence structure is legible. Your complaint is cosmetic (if you are even being sincere that is)

stark-05/20/2017
And I've written plenty of academic assignments as well. I've framed hundreds of walls out of two by fours. There is a way that makes it so you put the material to work for you and there is a way where the material beats you into submission. At the end of the process there will be a wall, but one will be well constructed and one won't. There are multiple ways to do a thing, but there are better and worse ways in that spectrum.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
k
But the complaints have been pretty "you didn't capitalize reddit" or "you missed a comma" and the vague "well the pacing is bad" whatever that means.
I'm waiting for something more specific/meaningful before i take you seriously

stark-05/20/2017
Well, without taking the time to sit and sort out the entire piece, there's not much detailed analysis to be given. Hell I'm spending my lunch break talking to you about this.

Tallardar-05/20/2017
“Seraph IX Basarab - Today at 2:03 AM
@Tallardar so your big argument is I didn't capitalize reddit? Oh okay. Man you got me. Good one.”

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
You: "Your article is written badly!"

Also you: "I can't really tell you how because I didn't actually take the time to analyze it."


Do you see why I may get the impression you're just being a thoughtless dick rather than trying to offer constructive criticism?

Tallardar-05/20/2017
incorrect
it was one of the obvious grammatical mistakes you made
which you asked for a specific example of.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Didn't. Capitalize. Reddit.

Hit it out of the ballpark. Man what a good TA you must be
I sent you a DM 8 hours ago asking you to relay what was wrong. You can still do that

Tallardar-05/20/2017
"Do you see why I may get the impression you're just being a thoughtless dick rather than trying to offer constructive criticism?"

I mean he and I both listed out mistakes you made and rather than, you know, listen you threw a tantrum over it.
So tell me why should anyone bother trying to help you further with your difficulties with English grammar?

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Your listed mistakes was not capitalizing reddit, a missed comma and "pacing."

Tallardar-05/20/2017
After you get hostile whenever you face criticism?
Yes, those are grammatical mistakes. You capitalize a proper noun, you need commas in specific areas, and your writing pacing (while not specifically grammar) plays a huge role in the structure.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
>Be an asshole about someone's writing

>get asked to prove your assertion

>get mocked when you fail to do so

>play the victim and use it as an excuse not to back your assertion up

literally ITT

Tallardar-05/20/2017
these are things you too could learn. I suggest taking a writing course.
or just getting an MLA/APA style guide, those are useful too

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Turabian or gtfo

Tallardar-05/20/2017
OK, in your mind where was I "being an asshole about someone's writing"? I compared it to ESL students.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
lol mla
sure let me scroll up
“Tallardar - Today at 4:48 AM
as is the sentence structure
so yeah should work on your grammar skills m8m8m8”


And the continued "professorial attitude"
I mean just admit you're trying to talk shit through some D-tier concern trolling method.

Tallardar-05/20/2017
LOL
that's your evidence?
OK
I feel sorry for you now.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
It's been almost 9 hours now and aside from "you didn't capitalize reddit" you haven't provided anything.

Tallardar-05/20/2017
Please give me incentive to provide you with criticism
because thus far anytime you receive criticism of your writing, you throw ad hominem and get hilariously defensive
If you're not willing, or capable, of taking criticism it's not really advisable to ask for it.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Implying your opinion even has value on this. You failed at even writing for TMC and considering you're off in east asia as an ESL teacher....the job you take when you fail at getting an actual job cause they'll literally take anyone with a pulse, I'm going to go ahead and continue to disconsider your existence.

Tallardar-05/20/2017
LOL
Damn, you really can't handle criticism of your writing

Jordan-05/20/2017
Dang straight for the ad hom again

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017

Hendrick remember when you'd pop into the en24 comments section and brag about how mittani was giving you IRL bucks as a "real gaming journalist"
that was p fun
you and that other guy from GENTS or something

Tallardar-05/20/2017
That wasn't bragging but explaining to you how TMC (at the time) was working. I'm sorry you misconstrued the nuances in thsoe sentences.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Want me to find the quotes?

Tallardar-05/20/2017
I stand by those statements too. I was paid real money for articles. What part of that is bad? Like in any capacity in your brain?
That I was paid, or that I talked about how I was paid?

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
uh oh cant take criticism look at the ad homs

Tallardar-05/20/2017
That's um...that's not ad hominem though? I'm asking how it's bad according to you

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
You were trying to rub it in our faces like any of us cared talladar. And it's pretty unclassy to brag about income in just about any culture

Tallardar-05/20/2017
You should really really try to look up terms before using them.


Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Here's the thing I know I can be a bit hostile sometimes. Let's start over. Hi how are you. I'm Seraph. I wrote an article. If you would be so kind as to outline grammatical mistakes I would be very appreciative. I apologize for anything prior to this very moment. Please proceed.

Vladimir of House Sniggwaffe-05/20/2017

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017


Vladimir of House Sniggwaffe-05/20/2017
Fuck off and die Seraph

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
halpl im being adhomoed
did u just ad homo me vlad

Tallardar-05/20/2017
man
you couldn't even last more than 2 minutes

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
I was joking with vlad. I'm not being hostile toward you.
You can DM me actually so we can avoid prying eyes

Tallardar-05/20/2017
Considering this is just the first paragraph of the article I'm going to go ahead and forego further editing of the piece. You should probably either use an editor or a peer reviewer of your writing if you, as you said, don't speak English natively or fluently. I would recommend hiring a competent Editor at EN24 as well to do this for you.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/285281772810403840/315200827616657409/Untitled.png

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
LOL
IT'S EVE NOT Eve
OMFG
rekt

Tallardar-05/20/2017
EVE is the brand name (making it a proper noun) so yes, it would be(edited)
If this is something you need help with I'm sure @[ZULU] BDD can explain it
Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Like look how you can't help yourself but still be a smarmy twat with your note at the bottom
"suggest you hire a competent editor"

Tallardar-05/20/2017
That's a pretty apt suggestion given the article having issues with it

Vladimir of House Sniggwaffe-05/20/2017
And you cant help but be an arrogant prick who thinks everyone is out to get him vOv

Tallardar-05/20/2017
That said you, again, couldn't handle criticism

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Your issue is i didn't capitalize reddit and it's EVE not Eve.

Tallardar-05/20/2017
On top of others
that i listed for you
including missing commas
yes

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
sure let's go through it

Tallardar-05/20/2017
Nah
It's all there for you
and I have other things to do
If you need help you should probably seek out an ESL teacher in your area

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
"lack of explaining why it's enjoyable to destroy other people's stuff in Eve."
Does anyone need an explanation as to why it's fun to blow things up in Eve here?

Tallardar-05/20/2017
or, assuming you're a native english speaker, someone who can help tutor you in writing


[INSRT] Keten Kennek-05/20/2017
Tallardar, was that the english major equiv of "kill thyself" ?

Tallardar-05/20/2017
you said it was missing "bite" but then didn't explain why it was missing it
or why that bite is important

Tallardar-05/20/2017
@[INSRT] Keten Kennek I'm not an English major so I can't help you with that

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
what is your major
journalism?

[INSRT] Keten Kennek-05/20/2017
marketing?
sociology?

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
If only you read the article you see it goes on to explain that kugu helps promote rivalries. That's the "bite"

[INSRT] Keten Kennek-05/20/2017
political science?
lesbian dance theory?

Tallardar-05/20/2017
^

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
^dat
He won't even say

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
you know what else does that
poor writing
it pits people who can read against people who are bad writers

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
bdd you usually need to get your GED before making commentary on that sort of thing

[INSRT] Keten Kennek-05/20/2017
its poor writing, maybe.  so what?

Vladimir of House Sniggwaffe-05/20/2017
Judging from your writing, Im not sure you are in a place to be that judge and jury Seraph.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
It's not poor writing. Is it professional writing? Nah. It's writing you'd expect someone to do writing about some retarded spaceship game hobby.

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
XD

[INSRT] Keten Kennek-05/20/2017
good enuf for a crappy game

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
don't worry guys it's just a dumb game
i'm really good IRL

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
basically. i never pretended it was Shakespeare

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
I mean considering I've forgotten more academic papers than you've written vlad...kys

Vladimir of House Sniggwaffe-05/20/2017
Alzheimers must be a real bitch

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
mly

[INSRT] Keten Kennek-05/20/2017
wow.  shit is getting real

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
So in conclusion, talladar is full of crap. The criticisms are what you'd expect from some failure drop out teaching english to korean kids who's parents will literally take any westerner for the job

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
lmao

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
I mean considering I've forgotten more academic papers than you've written vlad...kys

Vladimir of House Sniggwaffe-05/20/2017
Alzheimers must be a real bitch

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
mly

[INSRT] Keten Kennek-05/20/2017
wow.  shit is getting real

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
lmao

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
guhguh

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
don't worry little boy
mommy and daddy think you make words real good
and that's all that matters!

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
I'm not even sure who you are but you sound as retarded as everyone else that I've met with "zulu" in front of their name.

Tobs-05/20/2017
wy do people spend so much time going on and on about seraphs bad articles, I swear i saw this "discussion" this morning already
just ignore them like any sane person

Tallardar-05/20/2017
“Seraph IX Basarab - Today at 4:04 AM
So in conclusion, talladar is full of crap. The criticisms are what you'd expect from some failure drop out teaching english to korean kids who's parents will literally take any westerner for the job”
yikes
again
not able to take criticism of your writing

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Tobs are you saying people should treat my writing the same way they treat Finland? :x
You're a joke tallartwat shh

Tobs-05/20/2017
more or less, we like it that way, less annoying turists

Tallardar-05/20/2017
Like I get people are overly defensive of their work, everyone tends to be, but at the same time you put it out there and can't handle being told you missed commas without devolving to purile behavior.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
you're little concern trolling thing is getting stale

Tallardar-05/20/2017
That's quite saddening.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
mly?

Tallardar-05/20/2017
The behavior you have towards being told you made a mistake with something that is.

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
XD
sounds like it says a lot about him and less about you @Tallardar

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
No I'm not reacting against being told I made a mistake. I actually take actual relevant criticism quite well and I improve on what I do because of it. What I'm reacting is against your insincerity. You're mad that despite you trying oh-so-hard to be a relevant game journalist, you failed. You don't have the talent nor the charisma to do anything which is why you flunked out of TMC and you're doing fuck all anything now.

Then you have me and I'm basically just winging it and still getting further than you. I literally dgaf about any of the things that are so important to you and that just burns your ass.(edited)

Tallardar-05/20/2017
@[ZULU] BDD I don't wish to pass judgement on others but you could be on to something.

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
all i'm hearing from you seraph is "la la la i can't hear you guys la la la la"

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
There's no "lalala" but you're so small I can't hear you.

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
XD

(later)


Tara Read-05/20/2017
We can hold hands and go to his swamp
And take his Molok

[SNUFF] Hy Wanto Destroyer-05/20/2017
i always think to myself goons have alotta titans now but then i see all the rags

Svara-05/20/2017
if boat fed a molok the word salad would be so bad that he woukd actually just start coughing up his intestines
like that would be the end

Tara Read-05/20/2017
He'd choke on his onions
Cause he looks like Shrek
Lol

Svara-05/20/2017
but then who is his donkey
and princess

Tara Read-05/20/2017
Hmm
Well duh @Seraph IX Basarab  can be both

Svara-05/20/2017
wew

Tara Read-05/20/2017
He makes an ass of himself and secretly crossdresses

Marsha Mallow-05/20/2017
Seraph is my donkey

Tara Read-05/20/2017
So it is decided

(also later)



Tallardar-05/20/2017
I mean, you keep claiming it's insincerity but everything thus far shows it has been quite sincere in helping you improve your grammar mistakes. Of which you've shown many in a single article.
Like how is it insincerity when I went thorugh the effort to not only teach you what a pronoun is, but what a proper noun is, as well as edit your first paragraph?
That's some fairly flawed rationalization to justify your outbursts.

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
umm

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Either you are socially inept and haven't figured out what manners are or you're concern trolling.

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
do you have your GED dude
because that's the only way this kid will let you talk to him
GED or fuck off pls

Tallardar-05/20/2017
What if you have a PED?
What then @[ZULU] BDD

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Ah now I remember, Tegi. That's who it was.
Tegi and Hendrick coming to en24 comments section, shit talking and sperging about how much TMC was paying them and how they were real gaming journalists

Tallardar-05/20/2017
Tegi was an IRL games journalist but OK

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
I think Tegi had a mental break down cause he leaked some Eve logs or something lol
I'm sorry but you can be Bill Gates and if you come at me bragging about how much money you make, you lose all respect in my eyes.

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017

i too get ass mad because i write at the 5th grade level and get called out for it

Tallardar-05/20/2017
It was not really a call out, friend @[ZULU] BDD
It was a criticism of EN24s editing staff that somehow truly upset Seraph
because that is apparently not allowed or something

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
"u mad" posting in kugu. wew
“Hendrick Tallardar  Not a Mittens shill  3 years ago
You mean the guy who apologized, donated $500 worth of ISK to the victim, took a 30-day ban? Pretty good, I don't cling to years old events to try and win arguments but you sure do.”


These comments are so cute btw. Man you really went to bat for your senpai

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
who is senpai
is that someone who plays eve

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
no he just gropes women in the club these days

<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/20/2017
seraph fam he was criticising en24 editors first
then you took it personally
also hes litterally a english teacher
why are you still arguing this

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
He's not actually tho

Tallardar-05/20/2017
Those were all things he did(edited)

<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/20/2017
seraph man I'm really trying to give you a out here

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
no you arent

Tallardar-05/20/2017
So how is that at all a thing that is bad to say?

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
aren't*

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
gotem

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
hmm
got'em*
you're not very good at contractions XD

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
I mean it's just cute you were defending mittens so hard and then he threw you out on your ass

Tallardar-05/20/2017
Also I like how 3 years ago I said "I don't cling to years old events to try and win arguments but you sure do." and here you are 3 years later doing that very thing.

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
my superior GED education is really shining here

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
“Hendrick Tallardar  Seraph IX Basarab  3 years ago
How are articles written by me influenced by GSF? Please point to specifics. Especially in how non-GSF members edit the piece for spelling and grammar, something EN24 seems to drastically lack. What good does me writing pro-GSF do me overall? The claims you are making are hilariously full of logical fallacies but you keep adding more and more layers to the tinfoil.”

Tallardar-05/20/2017
Almost like I'm clairvoyant.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
lol TMC IS FAIR AND BALANCED

Tallardar-05/20/2017
At that time, yes it was.

<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/20/2017
seraph just say that your editor misses some stuff
and leave it there

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
>says stupid shit in the past
>says that someone will call him out for it in the future
>claims is clairvoyant when it happens

Tallardar-05/20/2017
I mean you claimed my articles were controlled by GSF, as a Waffles member at the time, and then never actually proved it outside of your own assumptions and speculations and made up claims.


Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
I said TMC was a propaganda arm of Goons. Despite writers coming from all backgrounds, that was always a fact because TMC was tied to GSF

<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/20/2017
seraph just put down the shovel

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
bisu kys thx

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
greentexting outside of the chans
wew boy

Tallardar-05/20/2017
TMC was tied to everyone who the writers came from. The first EIC was from PL.

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
this is some next level shit posting

<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/20/2017
this is what I get for trying to treat him like people

Tallardar-05/20/2017
Like this is some insanely old shit you're clinging on to
and still not really comprehending apparently.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
>old shit you are clinging onto
>proceeds to shit talk me over said old shit in passive aggressive manner.

ok.jpg

Tallardar-05/20/2017
Or trying really hard to shit post and get banned from Kugu discord over.

<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/20/2017
hes here as a example of what not to do

Tallardar-05/20/2017
What old shit am I shit talking you over?
Like lmao

<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/20/2017
and despite that hes has managed to get ban from here before

Tallardar-05/20/2017
What?

<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/20/2017
yeah like mari is on record that seraph is kept around as a example of how not to post

Tallardar-05/20/2017
True
I recall that statement

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
You have the same 5-6 people with chips on their shoulders that every day start arguments with me and then act surprised when they're btfo'd

Tallardar-05/20/2017
How am I btfo'd?
Please explain how that is what you think happened.

<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/20/2017
seraph fam I've spent the last 10 minutes trying to give you a out from this argument
this is as close as anyone is gonna come to taking your side in this

Tallardar-05/20/2017
Because so far you've jumped from "GIVE ME CRITICISM" to "DON'T CRITICIZE ME" to "LET ME DIG UP 3 YEAR OLD POSTS ABOUT UNRELATED TOPICS" in the manner of like an hour

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
I mean it was pretty funny how you were bragging about all the money you were making at TMC while defending the space honor of mittens. Then it was funny how you got purged tf out of TMC. Then you make little passive aggressive remarks and cry about being attacked when a retort is given. About sums it up.
Basically it

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
XD

Tallardar-05/20/2017
OK, so you apparently don't like being told "Get editors who are competent at EN24"
and took so much umbrage over it you threw a tantrum
OK
makes sense I guess

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Doesn't really bother me. I'm very calm. You can get on comms with me if you want I have a discord. I'm just pointing out you are insincere and using this as a way to shit talk because you're a massive failure.

<BoB>Traitorous Backstabber-05/20/2017
so like seraph you restarted this argument at some point right?
you haven't been doing this non stop right?


Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Nope didn't restart anything

Tallardar-05/20/2017
"I'm very calm." you say after getting upset about a "m8m8m8", throwing out insults, and then getting even madder to dig up 3 year old disqus comments.
OK
Guess our definitions of "calm" vary wildly

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
Except I'm not upset. Let's roll this back. Who addressed who first?

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
i'm very calm and mature
look how calm and mature i am
here i go making personal attacks

Tallardar-05/20/2017
"I'm just pointing out you are insincere" yet you've done nothing to, you know, support that claim other than say "no you're insincere"
But please let's stay on the original topic.
You asked for critique of your writing, and now are mad when you got critiqued.
Which ties into the original comment I made about EN24 needing competent editors.

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
i only accept critcism which supports how great i am
any and all negative critcism will be thrown into the trash

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
I made an article to promote kugu because despite some of the admins using their position to abuse power, I actually want the community to do well. I was ASKED to do this and support from people who actually run the site. If you were actually concerned with the quality of the article, you could have said something in a DM or even just respectfully. Rather you tallardar, and other people who have personal animosity toward me use the opportunity to just basically shit talk while pretending that they want to help. At least be honest.

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
sounds like instead of caring about it and doing your best you shit the bed
considering it was riddled with easy to fix mistakes
so either you're retarded

Tallardar-05/20/2017
"I was ASKED to do this and support from people who actually run the site" so you were paid to write a propaganda piece about a website?

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
or you just don't care

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
"Eve should be EVE" = riddled with mistakes. yaok
No I wasn't paid.

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
thank god

Svara-05/20/2017
idgi

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
i would have asked for my money back

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
"you're retarded"

"we care"

ok BDD

stark-05/20/2017
I love this channel, for realsies

Tallardar-05/20/2017
"If you were actually concerned with the quality of the article, you could have said something in a DM or even just respectfully"

Where was this ever established as a rule or requirement?

Svara-05/20/2017
last year you were spamming "ez 300m"
why is it that hard to be like "yeah i don't care"
like why is that difficult to say

Tallardar-05/20/2017
I can post my criticisms and critiques of your writing where ever I want and it doesn't change the sincerity of them.

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
It's not a rule or requirement but if you are going to claim you were trying to be helpful, at least do it in a way that isn't such obvious concern trolling.

Tallardar-05/20/2017
No matter how much you try and pretend it does.

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017
i'm trying to help
when i say
please stop going on the computer
your life and the lives of everyone also on the internet will be better

Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
intellectually void rambling from BDD
haha ur funny

[ZULU] BDD-05/20/2017


Seraph IX Basarab-05/20/2017
g1 m8

Svara-05/20/2017
@stark whoever would otherwise have to pay for babysitting probably loves the channel more