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  1. Send legal mailing list submissions to
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  4. https://lists.gpl-violations.org/mailman/listinfo/legal
  5. or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
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  9. When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
  10. than "Re: Contents of legal digest..."
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  15. Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:11:03 -0400
  16. Subject: Re: Are these license terms considered free?
  17.  
  18. Quiliro Ordóñez <[email protected]> writes:
  19.  
  20. > http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/base/third_party/purify/pure.h?view=markup
  21. >
  22. > /*
  23. > * Header file of Pure API function declarations.
  24. > *
  25. > * (C) Copyright IBM Corporation. 2006, 2006. All Rights Reserved.
  26. > * You may recompile and redistribute these definitions as required.
  27. >
  28. > Are these license terms considered free?
  29.  
  30. Free as in OSI-free or DFSG-free? Most certainly not, but why would you
  31. care for an interface to a proprietary tool?
  32.  
  33. Hendrik
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  40. Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:20:25 -0500
  41. Subject: Re: Are these license terms considered free?
  42.  
  43. El 24/03/11 10:11, Hendrik Weimer escribió:
  44. > Quiliro Ordóñez<[email protected]> writes:
  45. >
  46. >> http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/base/third_party/purify/pure.h?view=markup
  47. >>
  48. >> /*
  49. >> * Header file of Pure API function declarations.
  50. >> *
  51. >> * (C) Copyright IBM Corporation. 2006, 2006. All Rights Reserved.
  52. >> * You may recompile and redistribute these definitions as required.
  53. >>
  54. >> Are these license terms considered free?
  55. > Free as in OSI-free or DFSG-free?
  56. FSF Free
  57. > Most certainly not, but why would you
  58. > care for an interface to a proprietary tool?
  59. This is one file in Chromium. I thought most if not all was free.
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  66. Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:45:29 -0700
  67. Subject: HTC claiming Linux Kernel is Apache
  68.  
  69. Hello
  70.  
  71.  
  72.  
  73. Twice now in the last year HTC has denied my requests for Kernel source, by telling me and
  74.  
  75. others that it is covered under the Apache license, and not GPL2. I was hoping maybe someone
  76.  
  77. here with more rights to complain (a contributor to the kernel perhaps) would be willing to send
  78.  
  79. a written request to their legal department, as HTC recently told one of my friends to do.
  80.  
  81.  
  82.  
  83. We are seeking the HTC Thunderbolt kernel source, but have been told either no they don't
  84. have to release it as it is Apache. Another employee sent us a form letter stating it will be released
  85. in 60-120days.
  86.  
  87.  
  88.  
  89.  
  90. Justin
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  95. Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 00:32:43 +0100
  96. Subject: Re: HTC claiming Linux Kernel is Apache
  97.  
  98. hi,
  99.  
  100. > Twice now in the last year HTC has denied my requests for Kernel
  101. > source, by telling me and
  102. > others that it is covered under the Apache license, and not GPL2. I was
  103. > hoping maybe someone
  104. > here with more rights to complain (a contributor to the kernel perhaps)
  105. > would be willing to send
  106. > a written request to their legal department, as HTC recently told one of
  107. > my friends to do.
  108.  
  109. I just did that...
  110.  
  111. > We are seeking the HTC Thunderbolt kernel source, but have been
  112. > told either no they don't
  113. > have to release it as it is Apache. Another employee sent us a form
  114. > letter stating it will be released
  115. > in 60-120days.
  116.  
  117. Sigh. HTC *really* should change their helpdesk responses.
  118.  
  119. armijn
  120.  
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  123. [email protected] |http://www.uulug.nl/| UULug: Utrecht Linux Users Group
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  130. --Forwarded Message Attachment--
  131. Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:55:28 -0400
  132. Subject: Re: Are these license terms considered free?
  133.  
  134. Quiliro Ordóñez <[email protected]> writes:
  135.  
  136. > El 24/03/11 10:11, Hendrik Weimer escribió:
  137. >> Quiliro Ordóñez<[email protected]> writes:
  138. >>
  139. >>> Are these license terms considered free?
  140. >> Free as in OSI-free or DFSG-free?
  141. > FSF Free
  142. >> Most certainly not, but why would you
  143. >> care for an interface to a proprietary tool?
  144. > This is one file in Chromium. I thought most if not all was free.
  145.  
  146. You can simply delete this file without doing any harm unless you want
  147. to use a proprietary debugger.
  148.  
  149. Hendrik
  150.  
  151.  
  152.  
  153.  
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  155. --Forwarded Message Attachment--
  156. Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:13:09 -0700
  157. Subject: Re: HTC claiming Linux Kernel is Apache
  158.  
  159. Armijn,
  160.  
  161. Can you give me more details on what you just did? I am trying to document what is going on,
  162. as we have gotten many people to complain to HTC (even core kernel developers) and the only
  163.  
  164. results are of ignorance, and refusal.
  165.  
  166. Justin
  167.  
  168. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Armijn Hemel <[email protected]> wrote:
  169.  
  170. hi,
  171.  
  172.  
  173.  
  174.  
  175.  
  176. Twice now in the last year HTC has denied my requests for Kernel
  177.  
  178. source, by telling me and
  179.  
  180. others that it is covered under the Apache license, and not GPL2. I was
  181.  
  182. hoping maybe someone
  183.  
  184. here with more rights to complain (a contributor to the kernel perhaps)
  185.  
  186. would be willing to send
  187.  
  188. a written request to their legal department, as HTC recently told one of
  189.  
  190. my friends to do.
  191.  
  192.  
  193.  
  194.  
  195. I just did that...
  196.  
  197.  
  198.  
  199.  
  200.  
  201. We are seeking the HTC Thunderbolt kernel source, but have been
  202.  
  203. told either no they don't
  204.  
  205. have to release it as it is Apache. Another employee sent us a form
  206.  
  207. letter stating it will be released
  208.  
  209. in 60-120days.
  210.  
  211.  
  212.  
  213.  
  214. Sigh. HTC *really* should change their helpdesk responses.
  215.  
  216.  
  217.  
  218. armijn
  219.  
  220.  
  221.  
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  224. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
  225.  
  226. [email protected] |http://www.uulug.nl/| UULug: Utrecht Linux Users Group
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