Feminist insanity

**DATE:** 5/20/2017
**MY USERNAME:** Landora
**DETAILS:** Some random kkkrazy feminist cunts


11:22 AM L<Landora> Hello
11:22 AM S<samaras> hi Landora
11:23 AM L<Landora> how are you doing
11:24 AM S<samaras> iam fine how are you
11:24 AM L<Landora> I am doing good thank you
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11:43 AM L<Landora> oh manh its quiet here
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12:29 PM Y<•yar> welcome Landora, what brings you here today?
12:29 PM A<•AUTOMATRON> Hey, Landora, check out the channel's rules: http://freenode-feminism.github.io/
12:30 PM L<Landora> yee i read the rules
12:30 PM I kinda just found this place so I was like "I guess I will check it out"
12:35 PM Y<•yar> how are we doing so far? too quiet for your tastes?
12:35 PM L<Landora> a bit quiet
12:35 PM Tbh I am a female, but I am not really a feminist
12:35 PM so I kind of came in here to see what feminist do
12:35 PM like see if I like them or not
12:36 PM Y<•yar> why aren't you a feminist?
12:37 PM any particular reason?
12:37 PM L<Landora> I don't agree wiht all the political correctness they are pushing
12:37 PM plus I don't feel that we are as oppressed as feminist say we are
12:38 PM Y<•yar> it sounds like you might not like us
12:39 PM L<Landora> Im sure I will like you guys
12:39 PM Y<•yar> even if we prioritize respecting marginalized people? (what you might call "political correctness")
12:40 PM L<Landora> You mean giving "marginalized people" special privileges?
12:40 PM Y<•yar> even if we very clearly insist that sexism and patriarchy are things?
12:40 PM L<Landora> Yes. You may have different opinions but you are still human
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12:40 PM Y<•yar> being the same species doesn't mean we have to share an irc channel in peace
12:40 PM L<Landora> That is your opinion. It does not affect how I feel about you
12:41 PM I am saying that there are more to people than opinions
12:41 PM Y<•yar> i mean, you said you came in here to "see if I like them or not". i'm not sure what you expected to find
12:41 PM L<Landora> Let me rephrase that
12:41 PM See if I like your ideas or not
12:42 PM Y<•yar> well, i have never heard somebody talk about "special privileges" who wasn't being sexist racist homophobic transphobic or otherwise a problem
12:43 PM also putting marginalized people in scare quotes is not a good sign
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12:44 PM L<Landora> So you don't give them privliges here?
12:44 PM Y<•yar> pardon?
12:44 PM L<Landora> nevermind
12:45 PM Y<•yar> i don't know what you're trying to say
12:45 PM L<Landora> I was asking if you hold marginalized people in higher respects than other people
12:45 PM maybe treat them better
12:47 PM Y<•yar> i find that often when i treat people according to the same standards, some people accuse me of doing that. it's often in the eye of the beholder
12:47 PM L<Landora> oh
12:48 PM by the way, do you REALLY ban people who are members of the armed forces?
12:49 PM Y<•yar> you may have seen this before http://culturalorganizing.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IISC_EqualityEquity.jpg
12:49 PM L<Landora> I have seen that
12:50 PM Y<•yar> we have a lot of lurkers who have never spoken. but if people admit to it and are unapologetic about it, then yes they will probably end up banned
12:51 PM L<Landora> Why would they apologize for serving their country???
12:51 PM M<•melanated_pupil>  because their country is shit
12:51 PM and does shit things
12:51 PM L<Landora> which country are we talking about
12:51 PM M<•melanated_pupil> most of them
12:52 PM Y<•yar> "serving their country" is extremely naive language. i think a lot of veterans wouldn't even talk like that
12:53 PM L<Landora> Are we refering to veterens of first world countries?
12:53 PM Y<•yar> honestly, when you referred to "the armed forces" without qualifying, i instantly assumed you're a US american because that's the kind of thing US americans do
12:54 PM L<Landora> I am an American
12:55 PM I don't really see what the US armed forces does that is wrong
12:55 PM nor do I see what the USA is doing wrong
12:55 PM Y<•yar> fortunately, in this channel, the burden of proof is not on us. if you don't like it you should probably just leave instead of stirring up shit
12:56 PM this is not an argument that anybody will feel like having. it's been done to death around here
12:56 PM L<Landora> Alright, I never would have guessed that feminist were against the USA so much...
12:56 PM I will refrain from discussing it
12:57 PM Y<•yar> then you have lived a very sheltered life
12:57 PM L<Landora> Is it the capitalism you don't like?
12:57 PM Y<•yar> i thought you were dropping it
12:58 PM L<Landora> oh sorry
12:58 PM Y<•yar> please. endlessly poking at us is not going to end well for you. if you want to learn more i suggest you lurk or read independently
12:58 PM L<Landora> I am sorry if it feels like I am poking. I just wanted to get some answers
12:59 PM I did not intend to start of a fight
12:59 PM M<•melanated_pupil> one of the first things the USA did wrong was exist
1:00 PM L<Landora> where are you frm melanated_pupil?
1:00 PM M<•melanated_pupil> the USA
1:00 PM L<Landora> so...You live in the USA...But you wish it did not exist
1:00 PM strange
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1:01 PM Y<•yar> it's not strange
1:01 PM you're strange
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1:01 PM L<Landora> I guess strange is a relative point of view
1:02 PM Y<•yar> and it sounds like you have not been exposed to a lot of points of view, since you have been so incredulous about ours
1:02 PM M<•melanated_pupil> you know the history of the USA at least in a basic sense
1:02 PM you understand what had to happen for it to exist right?
1:02 PM L<Landora> a war?
1:02 PM M<•melanated_pupil> you understand the genocide and the slavery?
1:02 PM L<Landora> genocide of who
1:02 PM the natives?
1:03 PM M<•melanated_pupil> yes
1:03 PM i'd rather that didn't happen
1:03 PM makes sense?
1:03 PM L<Landora> You do know that the natives killed eachother right?
1:03 PM M<•melanated_pupil> yeah, people have war all the time
1:03 PM Y<•yar> racism like that is going to get you banned real quick Landora
1:04 PM L<Landora> What did I say that was racist yar?
1:04 PM M<•melanated_pupil> you understand americans killed each other right?
1:04 PM or europeans, as they were at the time
1:04 PM so now that we have established irrelevant moral equivocations
1:04 PM L<Landora> yes, it is an unfortunate reality
1:04 PM Y<•yar> native people still exist and far transcend your stereotypes. i recommend you stop expressing opinions altogether
1:05 PM M<•melanated_pupil> we can back to the act that this continent is mysteriously devoid of many former inhabitants
1:05 PM L<Landora> yar I did not stereotype them
1:05 PM M<•melanated_pupil> well, this part of it at least
1:05 PM and look at the territorial expansion of a certain nation-state
1:05 PM and maybe connect the dots?
1:05 PM Y<•yar> i love when ignorant people are so incredulous that you have an idea, they assume you must be more ignorant than they are
1:06 PM L<Landora> What did I say that was wrong yar
1:06 PM M<•melanated_pupil> also "everyone does it" is literally what small children say
1:06 PM Y<•yar> "natives killed eachother" is a tired story that white people tell themselves to excuse genocide
1:07 PM L<Landora> yar you don't think that the natives waged war among each other?
1:07 PM Y<•yar> of course there were wars among native americans. but why in the world would you even say that as if it somehow justifies genocide even if it were a universal truth
1:08 PM L<Landora> It does not justify it. Genocide is evil
1:08 PM Y<•yar> read back at the way you reacted
1:09 PM you say "You do know that the natives killed eachother right?" as if it's somehow an answer or a rebuttal to the fact that genocide happened
1:09 PM and is still happening
1:09 PM L<Landora> I don't see it happening
1:09 PM what makes you think its still happenening
1:09 PM Y<•yar> you don't see a lot of things, clearly
1:10 PM again. stop. you have clearly not noticed the multiple times that i told you to stop grilling people and stop expressing opinions. you are deeply brainwashed by racism.
1:10 PM L<Landora> You are throwing around racism a lot. Im starting to get the feeling you don't know what it means
1:11 PM Y<•yar> what do you think racism means Landora
1:11 PM L<Landora> Prejudice against another race
1:11 PM Y<•yar> racism is white supremacy. end of story
1:12 PM L<Landora> I am not white though
1:12 PM I am black
1:12 PM Y<•yar> you've internalized white supremist narratives though
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1:13 PM L<Landora> are you saying that im a black white supremacist
1:13 PM brb
1:15 PM so ya
1:15 PM I am not a white supremacist
1:16 PM Y<•yar> all i know is you're expressing white supremist ideas. i'm not going to extrapolate that into "who you are" but it's something you're doing
1:16 PM and which anybody is capable of doing regardless of their race
1:16 PM L<Landora> I never expressed white supremacist ideas
1:16 PM wait....did you just say that black people can be whtie supremacist
1:17 PM Y<•yar> black people can act as accessories to white violence with the words they say and the ideas they express
1:18 PM i mean look at the guy trump is trying to appoint to the DHS
1:18 PM L<Landora> what do you mean by "accessories"
1:19 PM btw I would LOVE to see how you react to #8chan on rizon
1:19 PM M<•melanated_pupil> accomplices, helpers, facilitators, aids, uncle toms, traitors,
1:19 PM Y<•yar> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessory_(legal_term)
1:19 PM M<•melanated_pupil> need more words?
1:20 PM L<Landora> so your talking about "race traitors"
1:21 PM Y<•yar> i wouldn't use that phrase but others might
1:21 PM M<•melanated_pupil> no, humanity traitors
1:21 PM anyone supporting white supremacy an other oppressions is supporting an evil unto all people
1:21 PM L<Landora> what about black supremacy
1:22 PM Y<•yar> i'm not sure anything exists in this world that you could call "black supremacy" which would be remotely comparable to white supremacy
1:23 PM because of how deeply white supremacy is embedded in the social and legal structures of the whole world
1:23 PM L<Landora> . . .
1:24 PM I am starting to question your sanity
1:24 PM Y<•yar> come on, this is not an uncommon view. you could have read that same view in thousands of places on the internet. i'm not sure why you need to come in here and be aggressive about it
1:25 PM we have been politely answering your questions for almost an hour now
1:25 PM L<Landora> I think you should take a look at this
1:25 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InkfZrXYKVQ
1:26 PM S<samaras> I'm not trying to set anyone off or anything
1:26 PM L<Landora> You guys are batshit crazy
1:26 PM S<samaras> but by saying that black supremacists aren't comparable to white supremacists you're really shortcoming human potential of all races to be supremacist
1:26 PM L<Landora> come on, black white supremacist?
1:27 PM Y<•yar> wtf is this video
1:27 PM S<samaras> and you're inherently attaching feelings of inferiority on blacks by doing so
1:27 PM L<Landora> Either you guys are legitimately crazy, or you are trolls
1:27 PM S<samaras> its very easy to see examples of black supremacy, look at the ruler idi amin dada, dr amos t wilson, or heck, black attitudes against the colored and whites in the republic of south africa
1:28 PM M<•melanated_pupil> i'm legitimately crazy
1:28 PM S— samaras is just on a tangent
1:28 PM Y<•yar> aamer rahman says it much better than i ever could https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw_mRaIHb-M
1:28 PM M<•melanated_pupil> i have a certificate and everything
1:28 PM S<samaras> saying X group can't be supremacist is usually a silly statement for any X
1:28 PM :)
1:29 PM I mean idi amin data expelled millions of indians from his country, and openly hated jews
1:29 PM it can happen in any race
1:29 PM L<Landora> indeed
1:29 PM Y<•yar> if idi amin's ideology took hold of entire continents for centuries, maybe i'd agree with you
1:29 PM S<samaras> *dada
1:29 PM L<Landora> I would LOVE to see what would happen if you guys went to #8chan
1:30 PM in rizon
1:30 PM M<•melanated_pupil> i know what would happen
1:30 PM Y<•yar> Landora: stop. you are not being a respectful guest
1:30 PM S<samaras> yar blacks aren't the majority on many continents though
1:30 PM M<•melanated_pupil> a bunch of nazi teenagers would yell swears like it's cool
1:30 PM S<samaras> Landora: rizon is full of autists, and 8chan is their circlejerk
1:30 PM M<•melanated_pupil> why aren't you two banned anyway
1:30 PM S<samaras> say hi to sampletext if you see him though :3
1:31 PM <Landora> I will
1:31 PM lol
1:31 PM M<•melanated_pupil> you're clearly trolls, right-wingers, and generally rude
1:31 PM S<samaras> me?
1:31 PM L<Landora> I am a right winger
1:31 PM Y<•yar> the politics in uganda and south africa have taken place in the context of ongoing colonialism
1:31 PM M<•melanated_pupil> i mean you've called everyone insane at least three times
1:31 PM L<Landora> and proud of it to
1:31 PM Y<•yar> ok it's time to go
1:31 PM M<•melanated_pupil> you should be ashamed of yourself
1:31 PM L<Landora> i thought you guys liked diversity
1:31 PM •AUTOMATRON banned $a:Landora (+b)
1:31 PM ← You were kicked by •AUTOMATRON: Your behaviour is not conducive to the desired environment.
1:31 PM L<Landora> landora whats wrong with having political diversity