[30/12/2015 05:27:56] Corvus Urro: Dump I got bored
[30/12/2015 05:28:30] Corvus Urro: so I decided to cyber stalk you for a bit
[30/12/2015 05:29:02] Dumptruck: uhm ok..
[30/12/2015 05:29:14] micheal: and you found out something?
[30/12/2015 05:29:23] Corvus Urro: yeah
[30/12/2015 05:29:52] Dumptruck: no im not drunk. just spent an hour painstakingly looping a 30 sec music clip for almost 20 mins
[30/12/2015 05:30:08] micheal: sounds really bloody annoying
[30/12/2015 05:30:14] Corvus Urro: Don't worry, I know(knew) yorks name and address and all that
[30/12/2015 05:30:43] Dumptruck: uhm.. k..?
[30/12/2015 05:30:56] micheal: I think he is trying to say he knows who you are now
[30/12/2015 05:31:29] Dumptruck: idgaf
[30/12/2015 05:31:37 | Edited 05:31:46] micheal: dilligaf
[30/12/2015 05:31:45] Corvus Urro: I've not nailed down your address yet. But I think I've got your name and whatnort
[30/12/2015 05:32:04] Dumptruck: good for you, fucking creepy wierdo
[30/12/2015 05:32:12] micheal: he does that from time to time
[30/12/2015 05:32:14] Corvus Urro: I get bored
[30/12/2015 05:33:09] Dumptruck: not a fan. I'm sure York will be pleased to hear you stalk foreign men on the internet
[30/12/2015 05:33:36 | Edited 05:33:41] micheal: well its better than being stalked by foreign men on the internet
[30/12/2015 05:33:56] Corvus Urro: He didn't like it much when I found his address, phone number, name and all that.
[30/12/2015 05:34:04] Dumptruck: indeed, i can vouch for that
[30/12/2015 05:34:18] micheal: yer you can and actually so can I
[30/12/2015 05:34:26] Dumptruck: yeah he really didnt trust you after that. and i don't blame him.
[30/12/2015 05:34:36] Corvus Urro: What's not to trust?
[30/12/2015 05:34:46] Corvus Urro: That was accidental
[30/12/2015 05:34:51] micheal: don't see why hes as harmless as a twat with no job can be
[30/12/2015 05:34:54] Corvus Urro: I wasn't looking for that stuff.
[30/12/2015 05:35:17] Corvus Urro: I actually let him know how to fix how I found him
[30/12/2015 05:35:42] Dumptruck: its the principle of the thing.
[30/12/2015 05:36:12] micheal: right have a fake name and go out of your way to distance yourself from someone only for them to find out who the fuck you are
[30/12/2015 05:36:14] Dumptruck: some dude says i got bored so i surfed the web and did a fucking background check is excessively creepy
[30/12/2015 05:36:18] Corvus Urro: Hey It's better I find that information and tell you how to prevent people getting it, then someone else who's not trustworthy
[30/12/2015 05:36:41] Corvus Urro: Yeah anyway
[30/12/2015 05:37:00] Corvus Urro: It's borderline impossible for people to find any more then your name.
[30/12/2015 05:38:17] Dumptruck: mine or anyone's?
[30/12/2015 05:38:23] Corvus Urro: yours
[30/12/2015 05:39:01] Dumptruck: good.
[30/12/2015 05:39:51] Corvus Urro: Not even your facebook, which is even better
[30/12/2015 05:41:17] Dumptruck: god to know i suppose, tho still a bit creepy as a hobby, Corvus
[30/12/2015 05:41:22] Dumptruck: good*
[30/12/2015 05:42:10] Corvus Urro: You know people have jobs doing this.
[30/12/2015 05:42:51] Corvus Urro: Oh
[30/12/2015 05:43:11] micheal: yer private investigators of the like and other sorts of investigative careers but it being a hobby makes it creepy being paid to do it makes it annoying
[30/12/2015 05:43:30] Corvus Urro: I was just checking one last place for a potential way to get more information. And it has enough to find you I think.
[30/12/2015 06:17:47] micheal: im guessing no luck there?
[30/12/2015 06:20:39] Dumptruck: meh enuf, but its an old account i dont use anymore.
[30/12/2015 06:20:55] micheal: huh old account?
[30/12/2015 06:21:06] micheal: what are we talking about here?
[30/12/2015 06:21:40] Dumptruck: made a seperate facebook for my old gaming channel rather than tie it to my real one like a normal person
[30/12/2015 06:21:53] Dumptruck: dont even recall teh login info
[30/12/2015 06:22:19] micheal: ohh alright then fair enough makes sense and I guess that makes sense why you didn't just deactivate the account
[30/12/2015 06:22:20] Dumptruck: im sure its been inactive long enuf to have missed the updates in FB's ToC
[30/12/2015 06:22:43] micheal: alright then
[30/12/2015 06:23:27] Dumptruck: i dont care, really, im not too worried about being secretive. most the important shit is safe.
[30/12/2015 06:24:08] micheal: which is a plus I don't know how much of my shit is safe but then again I don't think corvus would bother with me since we have known each other for about 14 years
[30/12/2015 06:35:38] Corvus Urro: BUt You can use some information there and a small amount of money and the person would have your address and phone number
[30/12/2015 06:48:58] micheal: well yer you can just hire someone sure or something like that
[30/12/2015 06:54:53] Dumptruck: ok, and that accomplishes nothing.
[30/12/2015 06:55:00] Dumptruck: so what
[30/12/2015 06:56:15] Corvus Urro: Just letting you know
[30/12/2015 06:57:05] Corvus Urro: Also Mr Eel. You're safe. Currently no Connections with Prior Deceased/Micheal. and anything identifying.
[30/12/2015 06:58:12] micheal: so they cant find my real name or where I live?
[30/12/2015 06:58:27] Corvus Urro: Nup
[30/12/2015 06:58:39] micheal: wicked
[30/12/2015 06:58:46] micheal: I feel really fucking happy now
[30/12/2015 06:59:10] Corvus Urro: "Micheal hunter" "Prior Deceased" and "Micheal hunter +Prior deceased" does not get to you in anyway
[30/12/2015 06:59:33] micheal: wicked im really bloody glad about that
[30/12/2015 06:59:57] micheal: and a little surprised
[30/12/2015 07:00:26 | Edited 07:00:29] micheal: but mostly glad
[30/12/2015 07:01:28] Corvus Urro: Yup
[30/12/2015 07:01:39] micheal: well cool
[30/12/2015 07:02:50] Corvus Urro: Slade is also borderline impossible to find just because "slade" is not anything unique
[30/12/2015 07:03:19] micheal: hmm fair enough then that's pretty alright then
[30/12/2015 07:06:44] Corvus Urro: OH
[30/12/2015 07:06:47] Corvus Urro: Let me correct tat
[30/12/2015 07:06:51] Corvus Urro: I found his name
[30/12/2015 07:06:57] Corvus Urro: And facebook
[30/12/2015 07:07:05] micheal: hmmm alright then
[30/12/2015 07:07:51] micheal: you must get bored often thou
[30/12/2015 07:30:40] Corvus Urro: Eh. I think the last time I stalked someone was a while ago
[30/12/2015 07:31:06] micheal: meh I am just going to stick with my statement
[30/12/2015 07:39:53] Corvus Urro: York is still impossible to find after he fixed that other thing
[30/12/2015 07:40:22] micheal: fair enough
[30/12/2015 07:40:40] Corvus Urro: You can find his facebook really easily but now he's got everything hidden
[30/12/2015 07:40:55] micheal: fair enough
[30/12/2015 08:05:54] York: Not this shit again
[30/12/2015 08:12:19] Corvus Urro: Hey I helped!
[30/12/2015 08:12:35] Corvus Urro: Now people can't find Dump
[30/12/2015 08:13:57] Dumptruck: welp. thats enuf RL for one night. no one left online knows how to rotate back on defense.
[30/12/2015 08:14:34] Dumptruck: or stop chasing the fucking ball or take shots another guy already has.
[30/12/2015 08:16:00] York: Lol
[30/12/2015 08:16:51] Corvus Urro: Hello York
[30/12/2015 08:18:32] Dumptruck: i should really start going to bed earlier again. or itll be a bitch going back to work
[30/12/2015 08:19:09] York: It's not the point, you're supposed to be a friend, yet you do creepy shit like finding the address of someone that's blatantly distanced his online persona from his real identity, which to a normal friend / person. Would mean respect their privacy
[30/12/2015 08:19:35] Dumptruck: and on that note, im off to bed.
[30/12/2015 08:19:44] York: Night
[30/12/2015 08:20:02] Dumptruck: but before i go, i told you it was creepy
[30/12/2015 08:20:08] Corvus Urro: The point of me doing that is that It's better if I find it and tell you how then someone you wouldn't want
[30/12/2015 08:20:13] Corvus Urro: And yeah I know it's creepy
[30/12/2015 08:20:20] Corvus Urro: That doesn't mean it's not useful.
[30/12/2015 08:20:53] Corvus Urro: I'm not doing just so I can go "hue hue I know where you live"
[30/12/2015 08:21:02] York: Yet it makes me want to wipe all traces of my social media off the internet
[30/12/2015 08:21:11] Corvus Urro: I do that too. but that's not why I do it.
[30/12/2015 08:21:20] Corvus Urro: I'm telling you how I found  you.
[30/12/2015 08:21:56] Corvus Urro: So that if you want to be distanced from your online persona. you can be
[30/12/2015 08:22:19] Corvus Urro: I do this to myself
[30/12/2015 08:22:51] Corvus Urro: And certain people are connected to me. so I do it to them as well
[30/12/2015 08:24:34] York: But if you told me this before you did it, it'd be more forgiving, but the fact you just did it and told me after the fact seriously makes me distrust you
[30/12/2015 08:25:36] Corvus Urro: Well that's fine. But It's not like I plan to do this ahead of time.
[30/12/2015 08:25:46] Corvus Urro: I just get bored and If it's been a while I do it.
[30/12/2015 08:26:17] York: Yeah, and that makes it 1000 times worse
[30/12/2015 08:26:26] Corvus Urro: Howso?
[30/12/2015 08:26:43] York: It's basically saying "I did it for the lulz, as I had nothing better to do"
[30/12/2015 08:26:51] Corvus Urro: Well
[30/12/2015 08:26:55] Corvus Urro: I did
[30/12/2015 08:27:02] Corvus Urro: If I told you before hand it would be
[30/12/2015 08:27:21] Corvus Urro: "I'm bored so I'm going to check my online security, I'm going to check yours while I'm at it"
[30/12/2015 08:28:20] Corvus Urro: I understand why you have a problem with it. And I am okay with that. But that doesn't mean I'm going to stop doing it.
[30/12/2015 08:30:18] York: And that for me is a red flag
[30/12/2015 08:30:55] York: For the simple fact you can't respect someone's privacy after been asked repeatedly
[30/12/2015 08:31:07] Corvus Urro: I do respect your privacy.
[30/12/2015 08:31:26] Corvus Urro: Well no
[30/12/2015 08:31:30] York: Yet you cyber stalk me when you're bored?
[30/12/2015 08:31:40] Corvus Urro: I know you value it. and that's why I Do that.
[30/12/2015 08:35:35] York: Yet, I have repeatedly asked you not to, I will be honest I'm all but ready to cut ties with you Corvus because this is a serious breach of trust and I have trust issues as it is
[30/12/2015 08:35:59] Corvus Urro: Let's move this to Private chat then
[30/12/2015 08:37:01] York: I've said everything I want to say on this matter, and I'm going to repeat one last thing... RESPECT MY PRIVACY BY NOT CYBER STALKING ME
[30/12/2015 08:37:49 | Edited 08:37:57] York: If it was just me I wouldn't be as bothered as I am
[30/12/2015 08:38:07] York: But I have a family
[30/12/2015 08:38:08] Corvus Urro: I'm not really cyber stalking you though.
[30/12/2015 08:38:24] York: You claim to have had my name and address
[30/12/2015 08:38:24] micheal: trying to justify it isn't helping
[30/12/2015 08:38:31] Corvus Urro: I'm making sure connections can't be made
[30/12/2015 08:38:51] Corvus Urro: I could have gotten your address.
[30/12/2015 08:38:59] Corvus Urro: I didn't actually have it.
[30/12/2015 08:39:33] York: Still, you're making connections between my online persona and real identity, when you break it down that's one major thing cyberstalkers do
[30/12/2015 08:39:41] Corvus Urro: I saw It. But I didn't read it. Didn't remember it or anything like that. I know your name because I was
[30/12/2015 08:39:54] Corvus Urro: Yes but they do it for nefarious means.
[30/12/2015 08:40:04] Corvus Urro: I'm doing it for the same reason I do it to myself
[30/12/2015 08:40:13] Corvus Urro: Because I don't want people knowing that.
[30/12/2015 08:40:46] Corvus Urro: Cyber Stalkers don't tell you how they found you so you can fix it.
[30/12/2015 08:41:04] micheal: then why didn't you just tell them how to do it then they could sort it out themselves doing everything yourself is the surpiority complex running and simply over stretching your boundaries
[30/12/2015 08:41:04] Corvus Urro: They take that information and... Do whatever with it.
[30/12/2015 08:41:48] Corvus Urro: Supiriority complex would be thinking they can't do it themselves
[30/12/2015 08:41:53] Corvus Urro: Which that can.
[30/12/2015 08:42:11] Corvus Urro: But anyway The most I would ever do with this information is tell you how I got it
[30/12/2015 08:42:15] Corvus Urro: So you can fix that.
[30/12/2015 08:42:18] micheal: which just forwards my point of just telling them how to do it themselves
[30/12/2015 08:43:30] York: I'll break it down like this, you handed me all of your real life information because I found your name by accident due to a Skype glitch, I have retained zero knowledge of those details, the only fragment I remember (or at least I think I remember) is the first letter of your name, and I think it's an unusual name
[30/12/2015 08:43:50] Corvus Urro: That's about all I know about you.
[30/12/2015 08:44:10] York: But, I respect your privacy
[30/12/2015 08:44:19] Corvus Urro: I know your first name.
[30/12/2015 08:44:49] Corvus Urro: Beyond that I know only the stuff that you give freely
[30/12/2015 08:45:03] York: I have zero passion / desire / want or need to find out your name, slade's name, or priors (even tho his name is right there on display)
[30/12/2015 08:45:10] Corvus Urro: (you live in England, specifically Yorkshire or something)
[30/12/2015 08:45:38 | Removed 08:49:20] micheal: This message has been removed.
[30/12/2015 08:45:47] York: The only information I have on you guys is time zone
[30/12/2015 08:46:15] York: And I mainly call you Prior (bet you didn't notice)
[30/12/2015 08:47:17] micheal: i noticed
[30/12/2015 08:47:39] Corvus Urro: But again. My only interest in other peoples personal information is telling them how I got it.
[30/12/2015 08:47:45] Corvus Urro: Unless they gave it to me
[30/12/2015 08:48:00] Corvus Urro: Then my interest is whyever they gave it to me.
[30/12/2015 08:48:34] York: And that's the issue, you do this without consent, and come across very creepy and possibly dangerous to some people
[30/12/2015 08:48:58] Corvus Urro: Okay.
[30/12/2015 08:49:31] York: To give it an analogy, it's like pen testing a server for exploits
[30/12/2015 08:49:49] York: But, the server owners contact the pen testers to do it
[30/12/2015 08:50:11] Corvus Urro: Well yeah
[30/12/2015 08:50:48] York: I didn't give my consent, there for my privacy was violated regardless of intent
[30/12/2015 08:50:58] Corvus Urro: And I get that.
[30/12/2015 08:51:07] Corvus Urro: You should feel like your privacy was violated
[30/12/2015 08:51:28] Corvus Urro: But I don't think you should distrust me. I understand why you would
[30/12/2015 08:51:41] Corvus Urro: I don't understand why you still do though
[30/12/2015 08:51:56] York: I don't expect my friends to violate my privacy, certainly after I mention I keep my online and real lives separate
[30/12/2015 08:52:27] York: There's very little crossover between the two
[30/12/2015 08:52:32] Corvus Urro: Neither times I violated your privacy did I set out to do so.
[30/12/2015 08:53:08] Corvus Urro: First time I told you about
[30/12/2015 08:53:18 | Edited 08:53:24] York: You did tho, and that's the issue I'm having, you can't seem to acknowledge you did so
[30/12/2015 08:53:28] Corvus Urro: this time I noticed something While I was violating Dump
[30/12/2015 08:53:40] Corvus Urro: And wanted to ensure that you were still safe
[30/12/2015 08:53:56] York: Again, without my consent
[30/12/2015 08:54:00] Corvus Urro: Akin to checking if someone's door is locked
[30/12/2015 08:54:16] York: Yeah, that's highly illegal
[30/12/2015 08:54:29] Corvus Urro: No it's not
[30/12/2015 08:54:31] York: Borderline attempted breaking & entering
[30/12/2015 08:54:42] Corvus Urro: Entering if it's not sure
[30/12/2015 08:55:15] York: Still, you have zero business on that property, yet you went to check if the door was locked or not
[30/12/2015 08:55:36] York: Regardless of intent you'd still be arrested in that situation
[30/12/2015 08:55:41] micheal: and thus just being on the property is trespassing
[30/12/2015 08:55:45] Corvus Urro: If I saw something out of place on a friends property
[30/12/2015 08:55:52] Corvus Urro: I would make sure their place was alright
[30/12/2015 08:56:02] Corvus Urro: Same thing I was going in your situation
[30/12/2015 08:56:15] York: On a friend's property is different, if they gave you consent
[30/12/2015 08:56:50] York: But if say a neighbour saw you and called the cops?
[30/12/2015 08:57:15] Corvus Urro: Well I'd explain the situation.
[30/12/2015 08:57:18] York: To them you'd look like someone trying to break in
[30/12/2015 08:57:46] York: You'd still be arrested until the owner of the property could be contacted to verify they know you
[30/12/2015 08:58:04] Corvus Urro: But I'd imagine the friend would go. "oh he was just making sure someone else wasn't breaking into my place"
[30/12/2015 08:58:23] York: Yeah, when they got hold of your friend
[30/12/2015 08:58:32] Corvus Urro: And I'd be fine with that.
[30/12/2015 08:58:38] York: You'd still be in cuffs on the suspicion of breaking in
[30/12/2015 08:59:18] Corvus Urro: And I'd be fine with that. In the same way I'm fine with you seeing me as creepy and whatnot when I did this.
[30/12/2015 08:59:42] York: But if you lose me as a friend? Would you be okay then?
[30/12/2015 08:59:43] Corvus Urro: But I'd not expect continued scrutiny.
[30/12/2015 09:00:12] micheal: i would just put it as if there hasn't been any past issue with the residence or the person targeted i wouldn't bother but if they had history of break in's or if screams were heard probable cause as it were i would do something but given no reason to do so i would see it as not my problem
[30/12/2015 09:00:42] York: Trust is earned, doing something like you did destroys trust, certainly when that person has serious trust issues to start with
[30/12/2015 09:00:46] Corvus Urro: In this case I found out your door was unlocked, told you it was unlocked and helped you lock it
[30/12/2015 09:00:51] Corvus Urro: To me that's trustful
[30/12/2015 09:01:15] micheal: but not telling the occupant that you were checking the door seems suspicious
[30/12/2015 09:01:24] Corvus Urro: I understand that.
[30/12/2015 09:01:33] York: You were gaining my trust back, until now
[30/12/2015 09:01:49] Corvus Urro: Because I did it to dump?
[30/12/2015 09:02:06] York: Did it to dump, then attempted to do it to me again
[30/12/2015 09:02:09] Corvus Urro: or because I noticed a potential breach on your end and made sure it was safe
[30/12/2015 09:02:17] Corvus Urro: I did not attempt to do it to you again
[30/12/2015 09:02:30] York: That's not how it read
[30/12/2015 09:02:51] York: Corvus Urro - Today 07:40
> You can find his facebook really easily but now he's got everything hidden
[30/12/2015 09:03:27] Corvus Urro: I sent you a PM
[30/12/2015 09:03:29] York: I will admit, not sure if that was aimed at me or at dump
[30/12/2015 09:03:35] Corvus Urro: Explaining it.
[30/12/2015 09:04:01] York: I responded
[30/12/2015 09:04:27] Corvus Urro: do you feel better now that I explained what happened?
[30/12/2015 09:04:37] York: So-so
[30/12/2015 09:04:39] Corvus Urro: I was not doxing you
[30/12/2015 09:04:47] York: Still opened up old wounds tho
[30/12/2015 09:04:53] Corvus Urro: I just happened to notice something while doxing dump
[30/12/2015 09:05:23] micheal: well you said he was gaining trust back last time cool off and maybe try and let that happen again?
[30/12/2015 09:07:39] Corvus Urro: Prior has the best/second best security out of all of us
[30/12/2015 09:08:09] Corvus Urro: Except maybe red
[30/12/2015 09:08:14] Corvus Urro: I didn't check his security
[30/12/2015 09:08:36] York: And you're not going to
[30/12/2015 09:08:37] micheal: well maybe this time ask him first haha
[30/12/2015 09:08:52] micheal: or what York said
[30/12/2015 09:09:32] Corvus Urro: I mostly Didn't do him when I did everyone else because I forgot about him...
[30/12/2015 09:09:54] micheal: well don't try shit
[30/12/2015 09:11:24] Corvus Urro: Well he's not as connected to me so eh
[30/12/2015 09:12:08] micheal: well even if that changes still don't try shit without his consent to stop this shit happening again
[30/12/2015 09:12:16] York: Regardless, respect his privacy and don't dox him
[30/12/2015 09:12:58] Corvus Urro: See the problem with asking persimmon is that If I wont check their security.
[30/12/2015 09:13:27] York: Wha?
[30/12/2015 09:13:53] micheal: yer i don't understand that either
[30/12/2015 09:14:18] micheal: maybe try the English again
[30/12/2015 09:15:41] York: Wait, I have a question... you "checked" my security because of our connection? But how would people get your information from me if I don't have your information? Same with Dump, Slade and Red? All we have is your online handle
[30/12/2015 09:15:46] Corvus Urro: If I ask permission to check their internet security
[30/12/2015 09:16:12] micheal: actually that's a decent point
[30/12/2015 09:16:35] Corvus Urro: Not because you have information or what not
[30/12/2015 09:16:48] York: Then why?
[30/12/2015 09:17:12] Corvus Urro: But because When I do it I check Both corvus and york
[30/12/2015 09:17:22] Corvus Urro: to see if that helps attain my information
[30/12/2015 09:17:37] York: But how would it?
[30/12/2015 09:17:41] Corvus Urro: and that puts that person on the mind
[30/12/2015 09:17:48] Corvus Urro: and so I check theirs as well
[30/12/2015 09:18:12] micheal: so you did it because it was convenient?
[30/12/2015 09:18:15] York: Other than been in videos together, how would it help people get your information
[30/12/2015 09:18:56] Corvus Urro: How would it? for example "York + corvus" is more likely to show my steam account, because it has both things attached to it.
[30/12/2015 09:19:17] York: Then set your steam account to private
[30/12/2015 09:19:20] Corvus Urro: and yeah I do the check on the other people just because it's convenient.
[30/12/2015 09:19:24] Corvus Urro: I do have it on private
[30/12/2015 09:19:29] Corvus Urro: but that was just an example
[30/12/2015 09:19:36] York: Then what's the issue? Everyone has steam lol
[30/12/2015 09:19:55] York: Everyone has a Twitter (Prior been an exception to the rule)
[30/12/2015 09:20:00] Corvus Urro: It's that the more relevant data you input the easier it is to find a person.
[30/12/2015 09:20:07] micheal: then you are in the fucking shit here if it was simply because it was convenient you have fucked up because you did it without cause
[30/12/2015 09:20:17] Corvus Urro: so I test all relevant data that a random human could have
[30/12/2015 09:20:46] Corvus Urro: No I had a reason (cause). Because I care about my friends security just as much as my own.
[30/12/2015 09:20:50] York: I don't care if people find my online persona stuff, as I don't have it connected to any real accounts
[30/12/2015 09:21:03] micheal: then you ask first you are still in the shit
[30/12/2015 09:21:25] Corvus Urro: Yeah. But last time I found your personal information, it was connected to your online persona
[30/12/2015 09:21:52] Corvus Urro: And I wasn't even trying to find that when I did.
[30/12/2015 09:22:50] Corvus Urro: and only by 1 degree too.
[30/12/2015 09:23:38] Corvus Urro: but anyway
[30/12/2015 09:25:05] Corvus Urro: If I ask for permission That means I won't check until I have their permission so that means I won't do it while I'm doing my check, and because I do it because I'm bored I wont do it when I'm doing the rest of the stuff
[30/12/2015 09:25:18] York: But still, the matter of fact you violated my trust, and my privacy
[30/12/2015 09:25:40] Corvus Urro: Yeah I get that.
[30/12/2015 09:25:48] Corvus Urro: But not in this instance.
[30/12/2015 09:25:54] Corvus Urro: first instance sure
[30/12/2015 09:26:01] Corvus Urro: Kinda
[30/12/2015 09:26:07] Corvus Urro: Dump, definitly
[30/12/2015 09:26:11] York: And it's coming across like you don't truly acknowledge the fact, otherwise you would of apologised
[30/12/2015 09:26:43] micheal: well if they haven't had a fucking problem for this long then it can wait until you get their permission and even if you don't get their permission you tell them how to do it themselves and say its to protect themselves and the ones they love
[30/12/2015 09:27:19] Corvus Urro: I've said I understand.
[30/12/2015 09:27:30] micheal: then fucking apologize you twat
[30/12/2015 09:27:33] York: I thank you for exposing that one connection, but again trust was broken
[30/12/2015 09:27:42] Corvus Urro: And I'm sorry that Trust was broken.
[30/12/2015 09:28:10] Corvus Urro: In Yorks case I'm especially not sorry, because I wasn't looking.
[30/12/2015 09:29:24] Corvus Urro: But I'm not going to apologise for breaking trust, because that's pointless
[30/12/2015 09:29:28] Corvus Urro: Saying sorry
[30/12/2015 09:29:37] Corvus Urro: Shouldn't make that person trust me any more
[30/12/2015 09:29:43] micheal: then try gratitude
[30/12/2015 09:29:54] Corvus Urro: Gratitude?
[30/12/2015 09:30:29] micheal: that no one has tried to fucking arrest you be grateful that you are not in prison were a big bloke would slice your fucking throat open on the first night
[30/12/2015 09:30:55] Corvus Urro: Noones tried to arrest me because there's nothing to arrest me for.
[30/12/2015 09:31:39] Corvus Urro: "hey some guy found my address on the internet." "what did he do with it?" "told me how to stop other people from doing the same thing"
[30/12/2015 09:31:54] York: Invasion of privacy is an arrestable offense, you may not do hail time, but you'd still be arrested
[30/12/2015 09:32:01] micheal: apologizing is useless because it doesn't change shit gratitude is something that people can see and respect apologizing is empty words so try gratitude because it actually means something
[30/12/2015 09:32:30] Corvus Urro: But I'm not going to say "thanks for not being more creeped out"
[30/12/2015 09:32:55] York: An apology doesn't instantly heal broken trust, but it's a start of regaining it
[30/12/2015 09:33:12] micheal: then be thankful for something else just do something to help the situation or just help at all
[30/12/2015 09:33:33] York: But an apology at this juncture is of little value and is a moot point
[30/12/2015 09:33:50] Corvus Urro: To me an apology at any point is pointless
[30/12/2015 09:34:11] micheal: we all fucking know it is its empty words so try something else
[30/12/2015 09:34:40 | Edited 09:34:40] Corvus Urro: My choices are. Do nothing. or do what I've been doing.
[30/12/2015 09:35:30] micheal: but to other people an apology might mean something so think of them because you may not mean it but if they do think it would just do it its how people get through life by faking happiness and joy or feigning humility so just fucking try it sometimes might fucking help one day
[30/12/2015 09:37:36] Corvus Urro: I'm not doing that though because to me there are 2 ways a person should feel about this
[30/12/2015 09:37:42] Corvus Urro: they should be fine with it
[30/12/2015 09:37:57] Corvus Urro: In which case No apologies are nececary
[30/12/2015 09:38:05] Corvus Urro: Or They should be creeped out by it.
[30/12/2015 09:38:23] micheal: it doesn't matter what you think you should think about the victim
[30/12/2015 09:38:37] Corvus Urro: I am
[30/12/2015 09:38:54] Corvus Urro: Saying sorry means I won't do it again
[30/12/2015 09:38:55] micheal: try harder because what you feel right now isn't what he thinks
[30/12/2015 09:39:16] Corvus Urro: But I have every intention of continuing to make sure this person is secure.
[30/12/2015 09:39:24] micheal: no no no say sorry for not asking him don't do that again just don't do shit without permission otherwise just don't fucking do it
[30/12/2015 09:39:49] Corvus Urro: I said sorry to dump.
[30/12/2015 09:39:50] micheal: everytime you "check" ask beforehand
[30/12/2015 09:39:59] Corvus Urro: I won't ask
[30/12/2015 09:40:02] Corvus Urro: I might tell
[30/12/2015 09:40:22] Corvus Urro: But asking means that I plan this
[30/12/2015 09:40:26] Corvus Urro: But I don't
[30/12/2015 09:40:29] micheal: no fucking ask otherwise this bullshit will happen again
[30/12/2015 09:40:36] York: http://patch.com/massachusetts/malden/what-is-doxing-yes-it-is-illegal
[30/12/2015 09:41:23] Corvus Urro: "practice of researching and publishing personally identifiable information"
[30/12/2015 09:41:26] Corvus Urro: I don't publish
[30/12/2015 09:41:52] micheal: but practice of researching "and" publishing doing the act is still iliigal
[30/12/2015 09:42:07] Corvus Urro: No Doxing is research and publish
[30/12/2015 09:42:11] Corvus Urro: I reseach
[30/12/2015 09:42:18] Corvus Urro: No publis
[30/12/2015 09:42:33] micheal: but the act of research is still fucking iliigal
[30/12/2015 09:42:37] Corvus Urro: It's not reseaching, or reseaching and publish
[30/12/2015 09:43:20] Corvus Urro: It is specifically the publishing part that is illegal
[30/12/2015 09:43:28] Corvus Urro: anyway I will be right back
[30/12/2015 09:43:30] Corvus Urro: Food
[30/12/2015 09:43:35] micheal: well who gives a shit anyway just don't fucking do it again
[30/12/2015 09:44:14] York: But still, you gathered information, personal information without concept, as in the eyes of the law "with intent" of publishing
[30/12/2015 09:44:52] York: If you gave any of the responses you gave here today, you WOULD be brought up on criminal charges
[30/12/2015 09:45:15] micheal: that's what lawyers  are for i guess
[30/12/2015 09:45:16] Corvus Urro: No I wouldn't
[30/12/2015 09:45:23] York: And the fact you're not sympathetic to your "victims" paints you as a sociopath
[30/12/2015 09:45:35] Corvus Urro: I'm sypathetic
[30/12/2015 09:45:47] York: Doesn't look like it at all
[30/12/2015 09:45:50] Corvus Urro: I just don't think I deserve what an apology brings me
[30/12/2015 09:46:16] micheal: because you believe you are always right
[30/12/2015 09:46:41] Corvus Urro: Apologies makes a person either forgive or not. And to me this act does not warrant that
[30/12/2015 09:46:51] York: I can contact my lawyer if you want, find out what he says? I can show him the transcript as well
[30/12/2015 09:46:58] Corvus Urro: They can fogive me or not in their own time
[30/12/2015 09:47:02] Corvus Urro: Go ahead.
[30/12/2015 09:47:15] micheal: can  everyone stop making this worse
[30/12/2015 09:48:40] Corvus Urro: I have shown that I have no intent of pulishing this information by telling people how to remove this information, and by not publishing the information I could have had on York.
[30/12/2015 09:51:32] York: But as I said, "with intent" because you did it without consent
[30/12/2015 09:52:18] Corvus Urro: without consent and with intent are different thins
[30/12/2015 09:52:28] micheal: stop just stop
[30/12/2015 09:53:05] York: Iirc, there's 4 counts of doxxing (not counting the first one on me) and 1 count of attempted doxxing, that is a pattern, a pattern which won't help you
[30/12/2015 09:53:15] Corvus Urro: No
[30/12/2015 09:53:19] micheal: stop!
[30/12/2015 09:53:25] York: And you've also admitted to more
[30/12/2015 09:53:28] Corvus Urro: Doxxing requires the information to be published
[30/12/2015 09:53:34] micheal: fucking stop
[30/12/2015 09:54:04] York: The "with intent" is a beautiful thing
[30/12/2015 09:54:15] Corvus Urro: I have proven I have no intent though
[30/12/2015 09:54:25] York: Mainly because you can't actually prove you have no intent or otherwise
[30/12/2015 09:54:31] York: Because of the pattern
[30/12/2015 09:54:41] York: If it was a one off, then yeah
[30/12/2015 09:54:56] Corvus Urro: The pattern is the exact reason I can prove I have no intent
[30/12/2015 09:55:32] Corvus Urro: I had your information (and I wasn't even reasearching you) and did nothing with it.
[30/12/2015 09:56:56] York: Doxxing without permission and confronting said victims with personal information puts victims on edge, and asserts dominance due to the information held, you could black mail me, which is the "with intent" clause comes into effect
[30/12/2015 09:57:28] York: Because you haven't done anything with the information yet, doesn't technically mean you won't at a later date in the eyes of the law
[30/12/2015 09:58:24] Corvus Urro: It'd be a bit stupid to blackmail and dox person who has my personal information
[30/12/2015 09:58:28] York: And you could be telling me how to protect me from other doxxers so you're the only person with leverage
[30/12/2015 09:58:35] Corvus Urro: Which is you.
[30/12/2015 09:58:40] York: I don't tho
[30/12/2015 09:58:53] Corvus Urro: But I told you my information
[30/12/2015 09:58:57] York: You sent it, but I didn't acknowledge or retain the information
[30/12/2015 09:59:10] Corvus Urro: and you can go back and retrieve said information
[30/12/2015 09:59:12] micheal: well im just going to say right here right now one doing your little "checks" wont do shit if people really wanted information on you they would find it one way or another with spy ware or other software to get to them 2 corvus always believes himself to be right so this wont go anywhere because he wont ever admit he is wrong 3 obtaining information on someone without their knowledge is called stalking which is a criminal offence 4 you should all cool off go play a game go to fucking sleep or some shit and 5 it can be seen as black mail even without acting it out
[30/12/2015 09:59:31] Corvus Urro: No I'll admit if I'm wrong
[30/12/2015 09:59:40] Corvus Urro: It's wrong to do this without peoples permission
[30/12/2015 09:59:48] York: I can't if I've reinstalled Skype, as uninstalling wipes the logs
[30/12/2015 10:00:02] Corvus Urro: I have no knowledge of that
[30/12/2015 10:00:08] Corvus Urro: Plus I've given you my information
[30/12/2015 10:00:26] Corvus Urro: Offered to give you my information when I first got your information
[30/12/2015 10:00:37] York: Maybe, but I don't have it anymore due to respect
[30/12/2015 10:00:37] Corvus Urro: To prove that I was not doing anything devious with it.
[30/12/2015 10:00:59] York: What about Xogue, Fleex, Dump and Slade?
[30/12/2015 10:01:12] York: Did you give them your personal information?
[30/12/2015 10:01:28] Corvus Urro: no, slade isn't on
[30/12/2015 10:01:35] Corvus Urro: but
[30/12/2015 10:01:47] Corvus Urro: If they show discomfort with this
[30/12/2015 10:01:50] Corvus Urro: I will make the same offer
[30/12/2015 10:02:01] Corvus Urro: You also know Micheal knows me in real life
[30/12/2015 10:02:07] Corvus Urro: and he can give yyou my information
[30/12/2015 10:02:55] York: But out of respect, he won't
[30/12/2015 10:03:05] York: As it's your information to give, not his
[30/12/2015 10:03:10] Corvus Urro: Actually
[30/12/2015 10:03:25] Corvus Urro: In the situation that you would go to him for my information instead of me
[30/12/2015 10:03:35] Corvus Urro: It'd be after I did something with yours
[30/12/2015 10:03:37] micheal: making the offer to share personal information doesn't wipe your indiscretion under the rug still is obtaining unwanted information without consent giving your information away doesn't change a fucking thing
[30/12/2015 10:03:55] Corvus Urro: and if I did that he'd happily give it over
[30/12/2015 10:04:19] micheal: and also i have no issue giving his information away i would give everything up including his coordinate on google maps with no problem
[30/12/2015 10:04:35] York: No, if I know prior, he'd either beat you senseless or call the cops himself
[30/12/2015 10:04:44] Corvus Urro: Yup
[30/12/2015 10:04:49] micheal: he would be dead and no one would find the body
[30/12/2015 10:04:58] Corvus Urro: He lies.
[30/12/2015 10:05:04] Corvus Urro: He wouldn't be able to move the body
[30/12/2015 10:05:23] micheal: i have bad people on contact basis that can help i never said i would do it alone
[30/12/2015 10:05:36] Corvus Urro: But yeah. Point is
[30/12/2015 10:05:45] micheal: and you misjudge how much i can do with an axe a blade and your address
[30/12/2015 10:06:16] York: But regardless, 5 counts of stalking (Cyber stalking in this case), 4 counts of doxxing with intent of publishing, and 1 count of attempted doxxing
[30/12/2015 10:06:30] York: That's what the court would see
[30/12/2015 10:06:43] York: Regardless how you attempt to rationalise
[30/12/2015 10:07:15] Corvus Urro: And I would not get convicted of any of it.
[30/12/2015 10:07:43] micheal: you don't need to be we are just saying what you have done to prove you are the one who is a fuck up here
[30/12/2015 10:08:00] York: You forget, you're arguing the point to a "jury" of your peers so to speak, and your out numbered in your ways of thinking
[30/12/2015 10:08:29] York: You would be done, jail time how ever is he question
[30/12/2015 10:08:41] York: You may be slapped with community service
[30/12/2015 10:09:06] York: But it'd be on your record, and you'd probably be banned from using any computers again
[30/12/2015 10:09:10] micheal: well stalking comes with a restraining order when it comes with cyber stalking that's internet that is closely monitored or removed entirely
[30/12/2015 10:09:31] Corvus Urro: But I wouldn't have to talk to peers
[30/12/2015 10:09:46] Corvus Urro: It'd never get that far
[30/12/2015 10:09:53] Corvus Urro: It'd be decided far before that.
[30/12/2015 10:12:30] York: I'm not sure if it'd fall under cyber terrorism, but you never know
[30/12/2015 10:13:04] micheal: you do realize now that you said the American trigger word terrorism he is now on a watchlist right haha
[30/12/2015 10:13:11] York: Lol
[30/12/2015 10:13:20] York: Nah, I maybe tho
[30/12/2015 10:13:32] *** York waves "Hi NSA!" ***
[30/12/2015 10:13:55] micheal: haha yer im fine i don't have anything incriminating on the internet
[30/12/2015 10:14:45] micheal: i still don't know how people do that
[30/12/2015 10:16:04] York: The emote?
[30/12/2015 10:16:10] micheal: yer
[30/12/2015 10:16:22] York: It's /me <action> with out the <>
[30/12/2015 10:16:35] Corvus Urro: Anyway
[30/12/2015 10:16:43] *** micheal slices his own  throat to end the blight that is his life ***
[30/12/2015 10:16:48] micheal: ok that works
[30/12/2015 10:17:41] Corvus Urro: If you want to talk to your lawyer about that go ahead. but I believe this discussion has reached it's end
[30/12/2015 10:18:13] micheal: thank fuck lets all go do something productive with our lives... wait nope that's not going to happen
Corvus Urro