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  1. FULL CONVERSATION OF STEVEN V (InfinitySN CEO) on AUG 29th prior to the hacks, being warned. He was told exactly what was wrong and disregarded. Read and share.
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  3. AUG 29th 2017
  4. Steven Vulich
  5. Hi John Doe
  6. I would like to see what you have found in your Vegas files and anything else you have as you are the one giving them their information. ??
  7. Steven Vulich
  8. Everything you are passing as true, is in fact false. It's not on a live server yet so all you have shown is your email confirmation of signing up. Is this your proof? If so, you are totally wrong, also, if you are trying to hack our system you will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. You are welcome to sign up and check us out legally when we are on a live server. Once again I will ask that you refrain from hacking tactics and passing bad information about ISN to others.
  9. 11:25AM
  10.  
  11. Steven Vulich
  12. Hello?
  13. Steven Vulich
  14. Steven
  15. You missed a call from Steven.
  16. 11:44am
  17. Call Back
  18. Steven Vulich
  19. Steven
  20. You missed a call from Steven.
  21. 12:23pm
  22. Call Back
  23. You accepted Steven's request.
  24.  
  25. John Doe
  26. Steven
  27. ?? you know you are full of shit. it is live its hiding behind a bootstrap page.
  28.  
  29. Steven Vulich
  30. If you have concern then let's talk about it
  31.  
  32. John Doe
  33. lets
  34.  
  35. Steven Vulich
  36. Steven
  37. You missed a call from Steven.
  38. 12:41pm
  39. Call Back
  40.  
  41. Steven Vulich
  42. Trying to call
  43.  
  44. John Doe
  45. we will talk over text so everything is recorded. though text
  46.  
  47. Steven Vulich
  48. Easier than getting things mixed up on text
  49.  
  50. Robert
  51. it wont.
  52.  
  53. Steven Vulich
  54. Why are you attacking ISN?
  55.  
  56. John Doe
  57. so i was tossed your link from an anon contact asking me to see if it was safe to use. the 1st thing i did. was register.
  58. wait
  59.  
  60. Steven Vulich
  61. I woke up to this stuff.
  62.  
  63. John Doe
  64. wait
  65.  
  66. Steven Vulich
  67. It's not live
  68.  
  69. John Doe
  70. it's active
  71.  
  72. Steven Vulich
  73. You cannot fully register
  74.  
  75. John Doe
  76. and i registerd
  77.  
  78. Steven Vulich
  79. The sign up works but not fully, and was redeveloped. Once live all that will go away
  80.  
  81. John Doe
  82. well its live for me. lets just say this even if you don't think it is. where did you purchase this script.
  83. because i know you did not write it.
  84.  
  85. Steven Vulich
  86. I won't discuss certain things here for security reasons. I'm sure you understand
  87. John
  88.  
  89. Steven Vulich
  90. Which script
  91.  
  92. John Doe
  93. your social network script.
  94.  
  95. Steven Vulich
  96. I'm not a coder. I have a full staff for that
  97. I only dab in code
  98. Steven Vulich
  99.  
  100. John Doe
  101. your full staff is dicking you. sorry to say.
  102.  
  103. Steven Vulich
  104. How so?
  105.  
  106. John Doe
  107. your clients passwords should be salted and they are not. they are only MD5
  108.  
  109. Steven Vulich
  110. Don't know what MD5 is
  111. If you have identified something then let me know and I can forward it to my staff
  112. ??
  113. I would hope you want to help
  114. Not bash it to people.
  115. It's not on a live server, so you are looking at old code
  116. When it's live all of that is changing.
  117.  
  118. John Doe
  119. hold on had a lagg.
  120.  
  121. Steven Vulich
  122. Yup
  123.  
  124. John Doe
  125. ok so when you go into your sql the actual database in Mysql your going to find this
  126. users` (id, username, password, status, created_on, `updated_on
  127.  
  128. Steven Vulich
  129. I hope you understand that because you are using this for record I can only say so much.
  130.  
  131. John Doe
  132. under password you will find
  133. username id user password
  134.  
  135. Steven Vulich
  136. Your not hacking the site are you?
  137.  
  138. John Doe
  139. the password is MD5 crypted.
  140. not Salt,MD5
  141. any liberal asshole with a brain can crack it using crack station. and to answer no i am not.
  142.  
  143. Steven Vulich
  144. Ok
  145.  
  146. John Doe
  147. i poked because someone has some concerns about the legitimacy of it.
  148.  
  149. Steven Vulich
  150. So come to me with a solution to this and I will pass it to my staff. ??
  151. So let's help and not bash
  152.  
  153. John Doe
  154. Scrap the project. there are over 700 sql injections. go buy like Social Fox
  155. SocialFox is a great script.
  156. and i would back it
  157.  
  158. Steven Vulich
  159. I'm a good guy that will be attacked and that's fine, but let's have a solution instead of doing it your way. It's not cool.
  160. Scrap the network?
  161. Seriously? That will never happen.
  162.  
  163. John Doe
  164. no not the network the Script.
  165.  
  166. Steven Vulich
  167. What do you mean the script
  168.  
  169. John Doe
  170. the php script
  171.  
  172. Steven Vulich
  173. Php is common language
  174.  
  175. John Doe
  176. no
  177.  
  178. Steven Vulich
  179. That I know
  180.  
  181. John Doe
  182. i said the php script
  183. everything from database to /home/public_html/ files
  184.  
  185. Steven Vulich
  186. If I had your info I would pass it along to my staff
  187.  
  188. John Doe
  189. https://www.phpfox.com/
  190. go there and check that out
  191. do you live in commieforna?
  192.  
  193. Steven Vulich
  194. I understand you are a coder possibly, but I do not understand the language on code. These guys work for a major establishment and should know what they're doing.
  195.  
  196. John Doe
  197. if they did why would i be adamant about your security problems. i hope your not paying them. and i hope you did not get them off of like any php coder website.......
  198.  
  199. Steven Vulich
  200. What do you think of Facebooks script?
  201. Not at all, they are reputable
  202.  
  203. John Doe
  204. i can say that it does not leak user information, like database user information.
  205.  
  206. Steven Vulich
  207. They didn't use any open source for our data base
  208.  
  209. John Doe
  210. you dont have to.
  211.  
  212. Steven Vulich
  213. What's the solution
  214. And I will pass it along
  215.  
  216. John Doe
  217. if you dont mind me asking who are you going though to build this. i admire your idea its why i am asking but you cannot just toss a script and say hay its safe join... with out actually doing the pentesting yourself.
  218.  
  219. Steven Vulich
  220. Testing has been performed on the current database
  221. I can't say until I can confirm who you are. I'm sure you understand.
  222.  
  223. John Doe
  224. no no no i mean on the website its self.
  225.  
  226. Steven Vulich
  227. Yes
  228. Testing on security?
  229. This would be easier on the phone. Lol
  230.  
  231. John Doe
  232. what do you mean who i am. i am the one who is telling you that your script has over 700 flaws.
  233. over 700 bugs
  234. if you will
  235.  
  236. Steven Vulich
  237. Call?
  238.  
  239. John Doe
  240. no.
  241.  
  242. Steven Vulich
  243. If I will
  244. ?
  245.  
  246. John Doe
  247. no mic no camera this is a desktop pc
  248.  
  249. Steven Vulich
  250. No phone?
  251.  
  252. John Doe
  253. i have a phone but i am not going to give you the opportunity to grab my ip though VOIP.
  254.  
  255. Steven Vulich
  256. I'm sure I could put a program on Facebook and identify a billion flaws. I need to know more. And appreciate you trying to help.
  257. Why would I want your ip?
  258. I'm not like that
  259.  
  260. John Doe
  261. because i do not know if you are a Libscum trying to track me. i dont know if you are going to try to cause me harm do to finding flaws in your site i dont know you at all.
  262.  
  263. Steven Vulich
  264. Look, I'm a veteran and served my country, a prior police officer for good intent of society. I have no hidden intent to do anything like that.
  265. And a family man
  266. I am kind of offended by the assumption of that, but understand you do not know me personally
  267.  
  268. John Doe
  269. lol do you know how many times i have heard that? and come to pass that it was a fed.. and i cut communication with them.
  270.  
  271. John Doe
  272. look i am not out here to bash your idea but if you are what i think you are. then its not a good idea to just publish a website and have people join with out testing it 1st i tested for my own security i wanted to know if it was true did you put the google ads up on that if you did they are causing lag. i had to use AdBlocker just to get the site not to lagg. if you want suggestions i have given them to you. PHPFox is one of the best social network scripts out there use it also buy SSL for your website and get it off of ubuntu.
  273.  
  274. John Doe
  275. the Apache PHP is outdated. - you may only have 2 ports open but they are not locked down. 80,22 change your SSH port to something like 1000 or something 22 is to common.
  276.  
  277. Steven Vulich
  278. It lags because it's not fully live.
  279. From what I understand
  280. Once live it will be smooth
  281.  
  282. John Doe
  283. no its going to lag worse when its live and you have over 300 people accessing it at one time. how much bandwidth do you currentlly have per month?
  284. no it wont. i promise you on this.
  285.  
  286. Steven Vulich
  287. Do you know Bob or Vincent? If you do then I don't need to say their last names.
  288.  
  289. John Doe
  290. nope
  291.  
  292. Steven Vulich
  293. If not no worries
  294.  
  295. Steven Vulich
  296. Hmm, ok. So what do you think I should do from here?
  297. And because I don't know you or your past, why should I scrap the script at you telling me to? Curious
  298. If you said that to mark zuckerberg he would laugh in your face
  299. Just curious
  300.  
  301. John Doe
  302. i am just looking out for innocent people trying to make a difference in the world. tell people that the date is going to be moved up. go look in to phpFox, and start adding security via. .HTaccess and .STaccess files blocking proxys and scanners
  303.  
  304. Steven Vulich
  305. From my point of view. Why should I do something that drastic because you so to do it? I'm sure you understand me asking that
  306.  
  307. Robert
  308. thats a 1st part. buy a SSL Cert for https:// and then come back and ask me to poke it.
  309.  
  310. Steven Vulich
  311. Moving a launch date is huge, I can't just because a stranger that I don't know says do it.
  312. Ok
  313. We have an ssl
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  315. John Doe
  316. you do not have to take my word but when your website is compromised by some lib scumbag trying to cause hell for patriots thats 100% on you.
  317. its not installed then.
  318. my browser would inform me on that.
  319.  
  320. Steven Vulich
  321. How can you help protect it?
  322.  
  323. John Doe
  324. thats not a relative question. as i am not part of your staff.
  325. the question is how Can I Secure my website.
  326. do you run Cpanel?
  327. i never looked
  328.  
  329. Steven Vulich
  330. I caution you to not hack into our systems
  331. If that's what s your referencing
  332.  
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  334. John Doe
  335. im not hacking anything.
  336. i was not hired to hack anything bud,
  337. i was requested - to see if the site was secure and safe to use.
  338. my 1st advice would be. go on google and find out how to hide open directory's. maybe add index.html files with redirects to main page or 404 not found pages.
  339. i am watching one of your videos. on your page you seem like a legit guy trying to do something legit. but you need to fix fix fix.
  340. if you want my advice! just give me the go ahead to pen test further. and i can report back to you what i find. - call it humanitarian work. but i am not blasting it i actually thing its a great idea. but if its not tight you will run in to large groups of problems.
  341. Think*
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  343. Steven Vulich
  344. I really do appreciate that and I will forward that to my team to see if maybe they overlooked something. They are doing security checks for the last couple days and are just about done. I will have them go through with a finer tooth comb to ensure everything is protected. ??????
  345. I really am a legit guy and doing this for everyone and have only best intent with it all. ??????
  346. More and more people will see that as time passes and will hopefully have a trusted community. ????????
  347. I do appreciate your feedback and having the ability to address this concern Robert. ?? I am always willing to take in help when it's with good intent.
  348. Let me have my team go through and recheck as they move forward. If you are as good as I think you may be I may have a job for ya down the road. ????. Not sure if your open to that but I will always be in need of great developers and security staff. ????
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  350. John Doe
  351. do you? because i just seen some concerning things on your fb page. kinda made me feel as if you have double standards! when it comes to people expressing something other then what you want to hear.... but it could be me.
  352.  
  353. Steven Vulich
  354. Which part? Might be a misunderstanding
  355.  
  356. John Doe
  357. blocking people and making everyone you know block them to. so they cannot see what they have to say.
  358.  
  359. Steven Vulich
  360. I go on the fly on my videos
  361. Only when it's false information. Not censoring on opinions
  362.  
  363. John Doe
  364. you do know haters are your biggest fans right... this is what i have learned over the past 15 years ??
  365.  
  366. Steven Vulich
  367. There is no censoring
  368.  
  369. John Doe
  370. they spread the word faster then normal users.
  371. then the haters register to see whats up.
  372. you need to block bots. your going to get a ton of them.
  373. you should let people hate. ?? and spread false narratives to the people it will bring in more.
  374. but fix your security. and i will be back in about a month to scan again. if i manage to get access to sensitive parts. i will let you know block and secure. trust me. i have 8 vulnerability they are only on 1 page. ?? Register.php ?? but thats a false positive. i put it there.
  375. also in blog post Turn off Source, because there is script that can be posted to bypass hp sanitation.
  376. PHP Sanitation.
  377. go though your php.ini file have them lock it down. and update GD Librarys apache & php.
  378.  
  379. Steven Vulich
  380. I can never agree with anyone to spread hate. Morally that is wrong. I can't be about that.
  381.  
  382. John Doe
  383. hate? no they have an opinion on your website. you should let them voice it.
  384. you even said it here Disappointing times in Social Media?? InfinitySN is going live at the end of the month! NO CENSORING?? FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS ALWAYS PROTECTED?? See you soon!! Get ready to connect with Like-Minded People on a new Social Network??????????????
  385. you know people are going to come cause some shit.
  386. lol
  387. i just hope you lock down anything you need to lock down before hand i have seen this happen time and time again. its why i made a non bias website! its not even a social network its a money making website lol. no chat i removed it do to people causing problems.
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