csw [9:42 PM]
The Patent firm we use are the best globally

[9:42]
They have a couple 2008 Adobe patents that are infringed

[9:43]
Managing other peoples patents is a tricky issue.

[9:43]
Understand?

[9:43]
I do not own the patent

[9:43]
I have to work with a multi billion $ firm and have layers of lawyers talk to layers of lawyers

[9:44]
Bakers and Mac are the primary counsel

[9:44]
They ARE the largest firm globally

[9:44]
They cost us 60k USD an hour

[9:44]
They are slow, but deliborate

[9:45]
The undisclosed but still valid patent is owned by the NSA

[9:45]
The patent attack is the smaller of the things we are doing.


[9:45]
So, can you stop badgering me for 5 mins now?

macsga
[9:46 PM]
:+1:

bitalien
[9:46 PM]
60K an hour, holy FUCK

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csw [9:46 PM]
Welcome to Wolf Ram and Hart

vlad2vlad [9:47 PM]
lol

linzheming
[9:47 PM]
Baker McKenzie, founded as Baker & McKenzie in 1949, is a multinational law firm. As of August 2016, it is ranked as the second-largest international law firm in the world by headcount [5] with 13,000 employees including 6,045 fee earners and 4,600 lawyers on a full-time equivalent basis in 77 offices across 47 countries.[2] It is also ranked as the second largest law firm in the world in terms of revenue with US$2.62 billion in annual revenue in FY2016.[6] It is the largest international law firm in Asia Pacific, Continental Europe and Latin America. In December 2016 and as part of a major visual identity change, Baker & McKenzie re-branded and dropped the ‘&’ from its name to become Baker McKenzie.

vlad2vlad [9:47 PM]
Thx for the juice, Craig!

macsga
[9:47 PM]
@tomothy would charge you much less

[9:47]
:stuck_out_tongue:

csw [9:47 PM]
And if this leaks past any TRUSTED chinese miner... I will have you hunted down

taxed4ever [9:47 PM]
That is pretty amazing knowledge and extremely interesting re: NSA @csw

vlad2vlad [9:47 PM]
No this is a big deal you need a firm with connections and force.

tomothy [9:48 PM]
I'm not sure how much this changes things. If nsa owns patent, and bitfury is side operation, they're not going to claim foul over infringement.

csw [9:48 PM]
We own an Exchange

[9:48]
Not saying which one

tomothy [9:48 PM]
So you'd have 2/3 patents needed on this.

macsga
[9:48 PM]
pump it!

[9:48]
:smile:

taxed4ever [9:48 PM]
@tomothy This is patent risk.

vlad2vlad [9:48 PM]
NIce!  When is the eXchange going live?  Or is it already live?

zilli [9:48 PM]
To da moon FILTHY

csw [9:48 PM]
2 as a means and 1 as scare

[9:49]
Live

zilli [9:49 PM]
Hmmm. Don't tell me eToro

vlad2vlad [9:49 PM]
Oh wow.  Didn't see that coming.

macsga
[9:49 PM]
FLITHY

vlad2vlad [9:49 PM]
Is it in China or the US?  Or is that too much info?

csw [9:49 PM]
An economic entity can raise an injunction can they not if something is a threat to their business @tomothy

tomothy [9:50 PM]
Ok. So, if segwit coin goes live. It will die. You will strangle it. Meaning a minority big block fork will simply grow.

vlad2vlad [9:50 PM]
Absolutely

tomothy [9:50 PM]
Yes, of course.

csw [9:50 PM]
We have global correspondent banking licenses

[9:50]
And how long would a case take to run @tomothy

tomothy [9:50 PM]
So, short term, still hell in the hallway. Long term, future looks bright. Just, fuck.

vlad2vlad [9:50 PM]
But after hearing this I think the big block fork will be the majority.

csw [9:50 PM]
Just so we know what time SegWit can be delayed

tomothy [9:50 PM]
Jesus, years. They'd go bankrupt

macsga
[9:50 PM]
buys some btcs with his spare bags :moneybag:


tomothy [9:51 PM]
But that doesn't mean it wouldn't continue to run on the illegal chain

zilli [9:51 PM]
Pump this mfer


vlad2vlad [9:51 PM]
Yeah, Zilli Vanilli is right!  Pump this mofo.  lol


csw [9:51 PM]
What can a global team and a local project team of 60 lawyers do to a defendant @tomothy

[9:51]
What does discovery do?

tomothy [9:51 PM]
But it would mean anyone trying to do business with an illegal chain would wish they hadn't

csw [9:52 PM]
What comes out in discovery @tomothy

vlad2vlad [9:52 PM]
Exposes Their filth

tomothy [9:52 PM]
It would bog them down. It increases costs.

[9:52]
And then who knows what gets found...

macsga
[9:52 PM]
bog the dog

tomothy [9:52 PM]
Easier to just comply.

[9:52]
Fall on the sword.

zilli [9:52 PM]
Pepper ma Trezor

csw [9:52 PM]
I have been attacked for a couple years. I needed to be hated.

[9:52]
1. Family

linzheming
[9:53 PM]
NSA can just give up these patent?

vlad2vlad [9:53 PM]
You succeeded brilliantly.  ;)

csw [9:53 PM]
My family were threated

zilli [9:53 PM]
Don't you get enough diss from zilli today?

klee [9:53 PM]
zilli got pumped

tomothy [9:53 PM]
No, but it taints segwit

zilli [9:53 PM]
I am very generous and can always pepper your ego

vlad2vlad [9:53 PM]
Man I can't wait for the real war to start.


csw [9:53 PM]
I did not like running around with bloody bodygaurds, having them follow my family etc


tomothy [9:54 PM]
And now that you've been 'forgotten' the work was able to begin again in earnest.

csw [9:54 PM]
So, publicly I am going to be hated a little longer...

linzheming
[9:54 PM]
You could build a citadel and 100btc for a ticket.

zilli [9:54 PM]
Oh man. Netflix can't even compete with this hate twist

tomothy [9:55 PM]
It's a dangerous dangerous game, re: segwit. The hate hasn't even started.

macsga
[9:55 PM]
alright, told you to give this man some time

csw [9:55 PM]
The Patent firm is UDL

zilli [9:55 PM]
Loll. Tell Chinese miners that.

macsga
[9:55 PM]
@zilli not everyone can understand

zilli [9:56 PM]
Too bad that they control the guns

phoenix
[9:56 PM]
If Jihan added the clause for patent risk you can be damn sure he has a play for this place

zilli [9:56 PM]
I believe he did.

bitalien
[9:56 PM]
Is Jihan privy to this information

phoenix
[9:57 PM]
and he didn't have to go too far

[9:57]
https://falkvinge.net/2017/05/01/blockstream-patents-segwit-makes-pieces-fall-place/
Falkvinge on Liberty
Blockstream having patents in Segwit makes all the pieces fall into place
I've seen this pattern before, of coming with one incredulous claim after another in rapid sequence while hiding the real reasons for pushing a direction. (174kB)
May 1st at 9:22 AM

bitalien
[9:57 PM]
Is this why he added the patent clause

zilli [9:57 PM]
So far yes

tomothy [9:58 PM]
This is all a game of smoke and mirrors to keep core distracted while you finish segwit. This is :muchwright:  as I assumed. Thank you. It's beautiful. (edited)

csw [9:59 PM]
UDL cannot lawfully issue a statement publicly about somebody else's patent.

[9:59]
They CAN offer a legal opinion to an Exchange - a co. that will be impacted (edited)

tomothy [9:59 PM]
Has a price been settled on?

csw [10:00 PM]
That company can act to defend their interests

tomothy [10:00 PM]
Ohhhhhh, so you aren't going to acquire then? Going via exchange? Similar to issue of legal tender. I still like it. Probably cheaper as well.

csw [10:01 PM]
No, we will tell Adobe.

[10:01]
Lawyers talk to lawyers you know

vlad2vlad [10:01 PM]
Snitching is even cheaper and just as effective in this case.  lol

csw [10:01 PM]
But I cannot control that side.

tomothy [10:01 PM]
"Later, we will support the activation of SegWit on the UAHF chain if there is no patent risk associated with SegWit"

[10:02]
Yeah, what do lawyers talk about? Cool cases with each other. Why? Cause lawyer stuff.

[10:02]
That line helps explain it all.

[10:03]
Even if they signal it still has to activate and nothing can happen on the time frame provided. Afaik.

csw [10:03 PM]
@tomothy And if you push it down their throats?

[10:03]
What do lawyers think then

[10:03]
Just an interesting matter for their client...

[10:03]
Or

[10:03]
These guys have something to gain

tomothy [10:04 PM]
Not me personally, but if they're dealing with an attorney who's an asshole or an adversarial client who's a dick, they never go out of their way to make a point.

bitalien
[10:04 PM]
I don't understand this. Were patents intentionally added to SegWit, or was this some sort of mistake

tomothy [10:04 PM]
They would never litigate something just to be an ass because they did or said something bad...

csw [10:04 PM]
A cluster fuck

taxed4ever [10:05 PM]
The NSA doesn't make mistakes, besides hiring morons to carry out their plans.

csw [10:05 PM]
The patent is owned by Adobe and as Back said... it is a minefield

bitalien
[10:05 PM]
How does having patents from Adobe and the NSA benefit them?

csw [10:05 PM]
The NSA one...

[10:05]
That is speculation

taxed4ever [10:05 PM]
Got it.

csw [10:06 PM]
Adobe helps us

taxed4ever [10:06 PM]
"Patent risk via Adobe and possible patent risk via NSA."

csw [10:06 PM]
It means a huge litigation hungry (adobe is the worst) company owns SegWitr (2/3rds of it anyway)

[10:06]
@taxed4ever has it

[10:07]
And then... An exchange could start an action

[10:07]
And others could (AFTER) join

taxed4ever [10:07 PM]
Most excellent :slightly_smiling_face:

bitalien
[10:08 PM]
Oh wow

[10:09]
So is Blockstream's ultimate goal to destroy Bitcoin then?


[10:09]
Just cause mayhem?

zilli [10:09 PM]
Long this csw mfer 200x like usdjpy after fed hike.

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bitalien
[10:11 PM]
You didn't black out your name on the first doc

csw [10:11 PM]
:stuck_out_tongue:

[10:11]
Claim 11 of US 8261082 appears to be relevant and reads:

11. A computer implemented method, comprising:
receiving a signed first electronic document, the first electronic document including digital signature rights information, a digital signature module and a digital signature generated by the digital signature module, the digital signature module, which when loaded performs digital signature operations;
accessing, by one or more computers, the first electronic document in a user application;
validating the digital signature in the first electronic document using the digital signature module in the user application;
accessing a second electronic document, the second electronic document being a document other than the first electronic document, the second electronic document being identified by the digital signature rights information in the first electronic document; and
performing digital signature operations on the second electronic document.

linzheming
[10:11 PM]
Did you ever remember that NSA push a flawed method to be a standard?


csw [10:11 PM]
_It appears that if we consider the two parts of a message to be the first and second electronic document, then all of the features of the claim would be present in SegWit. There therefore appears to be a risk that SegWit could infringe at least claim 11 of US 8261082._

[10:12]
Under Law... is a separate signature block a document @tomothy

[10:12]
Under law, is a script a document @tomothy

[10:13]
Claim 1 of US 7370206 also appears to be relevant, and reads:

1. A computer implemented method, comprising:
accessing a first electronic document using a user application, the first electronic document including embedded digital signature rights information and an embedded digital signature module, the digital signature module being operable to perform digital signature operations on the first electronic document;
extracting the embedded digital signature rights information and the embedded digital signature module using the user application;
authenticating the extracted digital signature rights information and the extracted digital signature module;
using the digital signature module to perform one or more of the digital signature operations on the first electronic document in the user application where using the digital signature module to perform the one or more digital signature operations includes:
receiving a request to perform a digital signature operation,
determining whether the requested digital signature operation is authorized,
and if the digital signature operation is authorized, using the digital signature module to perform the requested digital signature operation;
identifying a second electronic document, the second electronic document being a document other than the first electronic document, the second electronic document being identified in the digital signature rights information of the first electronic document; and
using the digital signature module to perform one or more of the digital signature operations on the second electronic document in the user application.

[10:14]
_if we take "accessing a second document, the second electronic document being a document other than the first electronic document, the second electronic document being identified by the digital rights information in the first electronic document; and performing digital signature operations on the second electronic document" _

_to mean:_

_"accessing a second transaction (which is an electronic document), the second electronic document being a document other than the first electronic document (as the information has been divided into two parts in this contract), the second electronic document will contain information being identified by the digital rights information in the first electronic document; and performing digital signature operations (which we refer to as the witness process) on the second electronic document", _

_then all of the features of claim 1 will be present in SegWit. In that case, there is a risk that SegWit will infringe at least claim 1 of US 7370206._

[10:15]
*The NSA is the wildcard.*
That is dropped after the other crap hits

This adds doubt (edited)

taxed4ever [10:16 PM]
It is majestic.

csw [10:17 PM]
Now. I am still in touch with Gavin. Jon works with us. I am friends with Bear (Ray Dillinger)...

But not a piece of this works without time


bitsko
[10:18 PM]
set the channel topic: Riddle me this, Backman. No leaks!

csw [10:18 PM]
This guy means not a lot to most of you:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-13/ato-deputy-commissioner-michael-cranston-resigns/8614572
ABC News
ATO heavyweight Michael Cranston resigns following fraud sting
Deputy ATO commissioner Michael Cranston quits after being formally charged in connection with an alleged $130 million fraud, in which his son and daughter are also implicated.
Yesterday at 9:11 AM


[10:19]
@zilli Tell these kind people what these shits tried to do to us... If you please

zilli [10:19 PM]
Hmmm. 5 mins quiet ?

bitalien
[10:19 PM]
Can someone audit the members list and see if there's anyone who shouldn't be in this room?


linzheming
[10:19 PM]
:zipper_mouth_face:

macsga
[10:19 PM]
Κ

tomothy [10:19 PM]
Traveling, but yes. AFK Again. Excited to read later.

csw [10:20 PM]
@bitalien Please

zilli [10:21 PM]
CSW had a history with ATO because they cannot catch him ever. He passed the audit successfully but because he tried to do many things so he split each project as a company. ATO used it as an excuse to audit again and this time ... they prepared.

[10:21]
They faked forensic documents and audited, even hacked into HighSecured system.

[10:22]
CSW and DK are forensic expert themselves with expertise witness experience so can't fuss around with forensics.

csw [10:23 PM]
As an addition...

5.6    Taxation of Financial Arrangements (TOFA)
    The TOFA rules in Division 230 of the ITAA 1997 provide for the tax treatment of gains and losses arising from "financial arrangements" in priority to other provisions of the Tax Acts (e.g. the trading stock provisions in Division 70 of the ITAA 1997).  In summary, the TOFA rules have the effect of bringing gains or losses (including *unrealised gains* or losses) from a financial arrangement to revenue account.

zilli [10:23 PM]
They tried to manipulate witnesses too. (edited)

csw [10:23 PM]
As a general proposition, the TOFA rules only have mandatory application to large taxpayers (e.g. taxpayers with "aggregated turnover" *exceeding $100 m*) and not to individuals.     However, a taxpayer can elect that the TOFA rules apply to all its financial arrangements.

[10:23]
However, section 230-530 of the ITAA 1997 provides that the TOFA rules also apply to "foreign currency" as if the currency "were a right that constituted a financial arrangement".

[10:24]
This means that if Bitcoin falls within the meaning of "foreign currency" in section 995-1 of the ITAA 1997, Bitcoin will be deemed to be a "financial arrangement" and potentially subject to the TOFA rules depending upon the circumstances of the taxpayer.

[10:24]
Where applicable to a taxpayer, gains or losses from Bitcoin (i.e. as "foreign currency") would need to be calculated and included in assessable income in accordance with the TOFA rules (rather than the rules in Division 775 of the ITAA 1997) - this would be the case irrespective of whether or not the taxpayer is trading Bitcoin on a Bitcoin Exchange, and *would include any unrealised gains or losses from holding Bitcoin*.

zilli [10:24 PM]
After they could not catch CSW and thanked to Clayton U, ATO tried to go after CSW's family members and DeMorgan employees, interrogated everyone connected to CSW ( I was ... too for 3 hours)

[10:25]
They made a phone call to DK's estate and convince them how horrible CSW was and asked them to witness against CSW.

csw [10:26 PM]
Please note the departments...

Sheena Riordan
Compliance Officer | Engagement and Assurance Services
*Private Groups & High Wealth Individuals*
Australian Taxation Office
Phone: (08) 8208 2061

zilli [10:26 PM]
Basically ... it is from the prior feud CSW had with ATO. Andrew ATO had personal interests in destroying CSW

csw [10:27 PM]
Mark Gomez
National Case Leadership
* Private Groups & High Wealth Individuals*
Australian Taxation Office
Ph: 03 8601 9152 | Mob: 0401 142 995

zilli [10:28 PM]
but they faked the forensic evidences, accused CSW and Demorgan group to use illegally download software, which was Siemen software while the software was paid in full

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csw [10:30 PM]
@tomothy
Case: DeMorgan Limited v ATO

zilli [10:30 PM]
so it is the report of forensic expertise witness to clear the case that ATO doxxed us via fake forensic

csw [10:31 PM]
Can you say who is the plaintiff and who is the defendant

bagatell [10:31 PM]
left lionsden, along with @dgenr8, @digitsu

csw [10:32 PM]
The Plaintiff is the first name

leithm [10:32 PM]
left lionsden

csw [10:33 PM]
The defendant is the second.

trevinhofmann [10:33 PM]
left lionsden, along with @deadalnix

bitalien
[10:34 PM]
let sickpig stay

[10:34]
Also trevinhofmann is the Admin I think of BU chat? So I think he is trustworthy

kyuupichan [10:34 PM]
left lionsden

zilli [10:34 PM]
i will kick who i cant recogniez, you guys can add them back after verifying who they re

linzheming
[10:35 PM]
need to sleep. gn

taxed4ever [10:35 PM]
Night!

csw [10:35 PM]
GN

bitalien
[10:35 PM]
Gn

linzheming
[10:35 PM]
hope you get well and your family. @csw

zilli [10:35 PM]
CSW was destined to die and destroy by ATO.

csw [10:36 PM]
Thank you @linzheming

zilli [10:36 PM]
I do admit that despite I do give shit to him sometimes but I am amazed by his ability to handle pressure during the time.

tomothy [10:36 PM]
Holy shit. You guys sued ATO

[10:36]
Judging by article​ yesterday, you beat city hall.

csw [10:36 PM]
And they staged a raid on the house I left

zilli [10:37 PM]
CSW slept minimally like 2-3 hours daily and during the day, he had to handle the law stuff

cryptorebel [10:37 PM]
the raid seemed peculiar timing also

tomothy [10:37 PM]
Traveling again. But wow.

bitalien
[10:37 PM]
freetrader, gregnie? Should they stay?

csw [10:37 PM]
I moved to the UK in OCT.
I was back in the country for a visit in Dec as we had staff there

zilli [10:37 PM]
I told you not to. You did not listen and put words in my mouth :wink:

csw [10:38 PM]
Risk @zilli

[10:38]
Even in risk things need to occur

zilli [10:38 PM]
For god shake, if you listened for juts one time, none of da shit would happen.

[10:38]
it is why dont ask me why i m pissed at you and like to troll the fuck out of you

csw [10:39 PM]
@taxed4ever ... IF I have control of Bitcoin and I am a "High Wealth Individual"... What from the above would that mean?

macsga
[10:39 PM]
come on guys be friends already :wink:

zilli [10:39 PM]
cant be friend with this guy otherwise i need heart aid, be friend with him is worse than watching btc 3 leg dump.

macsga
[10:39 PM]
lol

zilli [10:40 PM]
lolll, @csw like to talk about the hack?

csw [10:40 PM]
Yes

[10:40]
Time to start coming clean

[10:40]
Even High Secured

[10:40]
Time to explain last year

zilli [10:41 PM]
High Secured in Panama is where our supercomputer at, ATO hacked da shit out of it (sorry, i was the auditor lol)

csw [10:41 PM]
Very soon I will need help. So, consider this my pound of flesh. (edited)

trevinhofmann [10:41 PM]
joined lionsden by invitation from @bitalien

zilli [10:42 PM]
alright, lets start in chronologically, start with Hotwire and Demorgan hack

csw [10:42 PM]
So people know...

[10:42]
https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/newyork/news/press-releases/executives-of-panamanian-corporation-and-aviation-company-arrested-in-multi-million-dollar-money-laundering-sting
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Executives of Panamanian Corporation and Aviation Company Arrested in Multi-Million-Dollar Money Laundering Sting
Michael J. Dodd, also known as Kenneth Ardell Landgaard, and James Robert Shipman, Jr. were arrested today on charges that they conspired to launder over two million dollars of proceeds from what they thought to be a penny stock fraud scheme.


[10:42]
The guys who ran the computer are now arrested...

zilli [10:42 PM]
no, no, lets start with the beginning Mtgox

csw [10:42 PM]
If you like\

zilli [10:43 PM]
HotwirePE liquidity depended on mtgox, hence after mtgox collapsed, HotwirePE entered into administration.

[10:44]
A few disgruntled employees who were very unhappy with situation and they were greedy enough to steal the core banking software.

csw [10:44 PM]
Craig did not lose... my company did

zilli [10:45 PM]
When we found out about the software stolen, we stopped them but then they nagged to make company enter into liquidation so they could get a piece of software.

[10:45]
I was dealing with one of disgruntled employees as he insisted me to join him to sell it to a bank in AUS as a solution to core banking.

[10:46]
Later ... backup disk in office was stolen ... and shf.

[10:48]
And 2015 ... a woman named Seven and her friends hacked and extorted us. Ms. Seven constantly demanded CSW a large chunk of bitcoin to get her a RE at the beach and put CSW under duress as she forced him to hack US govt to clean her felony brother. CSW declined helpign her hence SHF season 2.

[10:48]
Meanwhile, ATO battle was still on the table with a private ATO team up to have a final battle with CSW.

[10:49]
Andrew, Laura and another one i forgot name.

[10:49]
and FYI, there was a rumour that CSW was asking for money at the time, none of it is true

csw [10:49 PM]
*Here is the question for everyone....*

The ATO had a PGP signed message. It was evidence in a case. I sued them. I *won*, they hold grudges...

*Who do you think they sought in 2015 to validate whether it was definative proof that I am a certain person* ???


zilli [10:50 PM]
soon in May 2015, Calvin Ayre already became CSW's patron and being enlightened by how great bitcoin is.

new messages
[10:50]
Bruce Fenton told me that an CEO told him that CSW told that cEO that CSW tried to get money from him

[10:51]
none of it is true. Again I must say.

bitalien
[10:51 PM]
The ATO has a PGP signed message from Satoshi?

csw [10:51 PM]
Cal and I are good friends.

He is skilled in dealing with Gov and it is nice having a person who is richer than you are and wants nothing more than your time.

zilli [10:51 PM]
and ATO has the list of all bitcoin addresses associated.

[10:51]
@csw like to talk about the trust?


csw [10:51 PM]
Yes

zilli [10:52 PM]
DK made another one become trustee in 2012 as he knew his health was going down the hill.

[10:52]
and this one was unknown for long time.

[10:53]
People demand for trust document lol, just LOL, if every single trust document is public then we will public our trust document lol.

[10:53]
the ATO tried to invalidate the trust but they could not ... however, reddit could hahahaha

[10:54]
now what happened in May 2016 ... it was a shit circle show.

[10:55]
the Trust tried to contact Robert M. who was greedy and controlling CSW et al but could not.

[10:55]
Total lie on coindesk and else news outlet that the trust was contacted regarding the coin moving. None of this happened.

[10:55]
CSW is an early miner, he is not SN, period. Alright?

csw [10:56 PM]
Jan 2009

[10:56]
:slightly_smiling_face:

macsga
[10:56 PM]
I swear, it is true :slightly_smiling_face:

zilli [10:56 PM]
he is just a bugger got lottery by mining btc with 100 CPU, nothing more nothing less.

bitalien
[10:56 PM]
@csw, you still claim to be SN, however, correct?

csw [10:57 PM]
I am neither claiming nor denying

zilli [10:58 PM]
I was surprised when Bruce Fenton told me that it was emails from CSW asking for money when clearly CSW was under Calvin Ayre umbrella.

bitalien [10:58 PM]
You don't retract your previous claims though?

csw [10:58 PM]
I say... I am not saying ANYTHING that will incriminate me :stuck_out_tongue:

bitalien
[10:59 PM]
Fair enough :wink:

phoenix
[10:59 PM]
pleading the 5th is always good :slightly_smiling_face:

zilli [11:00 PM]
so TLDR, CSW drama series mtgox, software hack, company administration, disgruntled employee hack, extortion from Seven, ATO forensic fake and hack, impersonated by someone else to ask others money.

[11:00]
all added up so yea, he is a con man, he conned me.

macsga
[11:01 PM]
he'll make it right

[11:01]
he's a good dr Evil this one


zilli [11:02 PM]
lol, a male dog gives birth is a better story for me lol.

tomothy [11:02 PM]
They do have synthetic wombs... Lol

zilli [11:02 PM]
and oh, lol, When Newsweek doxxed Dorian, we had some good times too. Especially Dorian and Hal live 5 miles away from me.

[11:03]
and oh, Dorian and I went to same university, almost same major until I switched.

macsga
[11:03 PM]
:slightly_smiling_face:

zilli [11:04 PM]
when Dec 2015 Wired article happened, I freaked out when my twitter was followed by @satoshi, i was like wtf! and then saw the link.

trevinhofmann [11:04 PM]
Hi again :slightly_smiling_face:

I am an admin of the BU Slack group and a maintainer of the BU website. I'm not a big fan of anti-BS/Core conspiracy theories, but I do support bigger blocks and tend to oppose the BS/Core roadmap. (edited)
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zilli [11:05 PM]
alright, welcome back.

trevinhofmann [11:05 PM]
You might not hear from me much in here, but you need not worry about me leaking anything.


zilli [11:06 PM]
and oh, the panel in Vegas, Ms. Seven extorted CSW hard so CSW gotta put on a dress and lipstick to be on stage

csw [11:06 PM]
And threatened to rape my boy

zilli [11:06 PM]
Yes. Ms. Seven threatened to rape CSW's 12 year old boy.

macsga
[11:06 PM]
oh well

bitalien
[11:06 PM]
What the FUCK

zilli [11:07 PM]
and then she harassed me for a year until i changed my address and phone number and everything online.

[11:07]
Yes. the most sick part is the threat to rape Dr. Wright 12 year old boy and motivation to break his family

cryptorebel [11:08 PM]
wow, I have seen some of her twitter posts before, she seems pretty whacko

macsga
[11:08 PM]
derailed woman

bitalien
[11:08 PM]
@sickpig scroll up on catch up on the interesting patent discussion and other stuff

zilli [11:08 PM]
Ah, she also threatened to kill the trustee

csw [11:08 PM]
@zilli has an audio recording of it :P~

zilli [11:08 PM]
i got it from @satoshi

cryptorebel [11:08 PM]
lol I think I heard a snippet of that

macsga
[11:09 PM]
lol

phoenix
[11:09 PM]
ok, can I ask for the movie rights when this is all done ?

csw [11:09 PM]
LOL

macsga
[11:09 PM]
3 books already

[11:09]
zilly's at it

[11:09]
FILTHY

phoenix
[11:09 PM]
movie man

[11:09]
A class people

[11:10]
Russell Crowe as csw

[11:10]
and the list goes on :slightly_smiling_face:

macsga
[11:10 PM]
I'd play a part too :stuck_out_tongue:

phoenix
[11:10 PM]
Brad Pitt for zilli

macsga
[11:10 PM]
hahahaha

phoenix
[11:10 PM]
I'll have John Torturo for you

csw [11:10 PM]
RC got fat!

macsga [11:11 PM]
roflmao

phoenix
[11:11 PM]
I'll get him back into shape, no worries

zilli [11:11 PM]
nooo, that ass just got divorced, noooo

phoenix [11:11 PM]
unless you've gotten a bit of flab as well :wink:

zilli [11:12 PM]
so thank you, trustee was threatened to be killed

phoenix
[11:12 PM]
kidding aside, these are no joke, serious things

zilli [11:12 PM]
and csw's underage boy was threatened to be raped

new messages
[11:12]
life is full of lemon for us at the time

[11:13]
lemon keep adding up when the ad hominem and character assault after dec 2015

now Zilli is back and more troll than before muahahhaha.