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  1. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 18 01:43:00 2017
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  3. Sep 18 01:43:00 * Now talking on #criminalboss
  4. Sep 18 01:43:00 * Topic for #criminalboss is: Channel for CIT Criminal Bosses
  5. Sep 18 01:43:00 * Topic for #criminalboss set by Steve (Tue Sep 17 22:41:31 2013)
  6. Sep 18 01:43:01 <Farhan> i hope you all agree with every 2 month full team review
  7. Sep 18 01:43:07 <Kirito> @_@
  8. Sep 18 01:43:14 <Dream> full team ? would beb etter yes
  9. Sep 18 01:43:22 <Kirito> already started?
  10. Sep 18 01:43:23 <Dream> be better *
  11. Sep 18 01:43:24 <Farhan> including HCBs too
  12. Sep 18 01:43:29 <Dream> 43 mins ago yes Kirito
  13. Sep 18 01:43:31 <Kirito> indeed HCB's too.
  14. Sep 18 01:43:44 <Farhan> so guys, you agree with that?
  15. Sep 18 01:43:46 <Kirito> as it's a part of CB so, I think so.
  16. Sep 18 01:43:49 <Dream> i do
  17. Sep 18 01:44:27 <Assad-Khan> I agree.
  18. Sep 18 01:44:38 <Assad-Khan> AHCBs will take a part of HCBs decisions.
  19. Sep 18 01:44:50 <HeadBoss> oK so
  20. Sep 18 01:44:58 <HeadBoss> Final decision are like that
  21. Sep 18 01:45:05 <HeadBoss> AHCBs should take a part of HCBs decisions
  22. Sep 18 01:45:18 <HeadBoss> The whole team should be reviewed each 2 months
  23. Sep 18 01:45:20 <Assad-Khan> And 2 months review as Farhan said
  24. Sep 18 01:45:23 <Echoo> Logs advantage shouldn't be abused that much..
  25. Sep 18 01:45:32 <Echoo> Keep in mind that PCs and SOs never use this advantage
  26. Sep 18 01:45:41 <Kirito> oh..
  27. Sep 18 01:45:41 <HeadBoss> Or maybe each rank has it's own period???
  28. Sep 18 01:45:42 <Farhan> you are trusted ..
  29. Sep 18 01:45:49 <Echoo> PCs have L4s and L5s
  30. Sep 18 01:45:57 <Echoo> same goes to SOs
  31. Sep 18 01:45:58 <HeadBoss> AHCBs shouldn't be reviewed I guess
  32. Sep 18 01:46:05 <Echoo> and they don't download the whole logs each 2 months
  33. Sep 18 01:46:09 <Kirito> why not @Headboss?
  34. Sep 18 01:46:20 <Farhan> you are trusted with the access so you are doing it for team improvement
  35. Sep 18 01:46:23 <HeadBoss> Cuz there's nothing to show
  36. Sep 18 01:46:32 <HeadBoss> Their duties are like HCBs
  37. Sep 18 01:46:33 <Slammer> Each 3 months then?
  38. Sep 18 01:46:42 <Kirito> really?
  39. Sep 18 01:46:42 <Echoo> it's not about making a standard time
  40. Sep 18 01:46:45 <Slammer> Oh Nvm
  41. Sep 18 01:46:47 <HeadBoss> Yea Kirito
  42. Sep 18 01:46:50 <Kirito> no.
  43. Sep 18 01:46:53 <HeadBoss> It is
  44. Sep 18 01:46:59 <HeadBoss> You just don't know
  45. Sep 18 01:46:59 <Farhan> Echoo, i dont really get it, you download logs each 2 months whenever CB apply so whats the problem in this one?
  46. Sep 18 01:47:07 <Kirito> absolute no.
  47. Sep 18 01:47:10 <HeadBoss> Lol
  48. Sep 18 01:47:15 <Farhan> or wait its just that now i included HCBs too?>?
  49. Sep 18 01:47:22 <Slammer> I don't really care why SOs and PCs do, but I do care if this review will benefit us....
  50. Sep 18 01:47:26 <Echoo> the standard time is the thing
  51. Sep 18 01:47:39 <Echoo> we shouldn't have a rule that forces logs to be downloaded each 2 months
  52. Sep 18 01:47:40 <HeadBoss> what are AHCB duties Kirito?
  53. Sep 18 01:47:44 <Slammer> What standard time
  54. Sep 18 01:47:46 <Echoo> because sooner or later, shadow and I will resign
  55. Sep 18 01:47:50 <Echoo> and there will be no L3s
  56. Sep 18 01:47:55 <Echoo> and thus, a useless addition
  57. Sep 18 01:47:58 <Slammer> Why not echoo
  58. Sep 18 01:48:00 <HeadBoss> We have Farhan
  59. Sep 18 01:48:05 <HeadBoss> He can help non staffs
  60. Sep 18 01:48:08 <Farhan> i said i will always help with whatever the team wants from me
  61. Sep 18 01:48:08 <Kirito> lol useless addition, you mean Shanu?
  62. Sep 18 01:48:09 <HeadBoss> and Other L3 staffs
  63. Sep 18 01:48:12 <Kirito> are you serious -_-?
  64. Sep 18 01:48:20 <Slammer> It should be implemented as long as we are able to do it.
  65. Sep 18 01:48:25 <HeadBoss> What are you talking about? I didn't even mention Shanu
  66. Sep 18 01:48:26 <Kirito> say it directly not indirectly..
  67. Sep 18 01:48:27 <Echoo> again, logs are not supposed to be a wall to lean on
  68. Sep 18 01:48:29 <Farhan> any HCB can ask me, i will provide them whenever they want anyhing
  69. Sep 18 01:48:31 <HeadBoss> Lol man
  70. Sep 18 01:48:37 <Kirito> I meant to Echoo not you echoo.
  71. Sep 18 01:48:40 <Echoo> logs get downloaded whenever there are enough time for it
  72. Sep 18 01:48:42 <Kirito> Headboss*
  73. Sep 18 01:49:00 <Farhan> i can do that echoo, tho thats your responsibility
  74. Sep 18 01:49:01 <Echoo> not to build a system based on logs because if we actually asked arran
  75. Sep 18 01:49:07 <Kirito> Echoo, what is the mean of useless addition?
  76. Sep 18 01:49:18 <Echoo> about exploiting the logs for the sake of every single system, he wouldn't agree
  77. Sep 18 01:49:21 <ShadowZ> <Echoo> because sooner or later, shadow and I will resign
  78. Sep 18 01:49:21 <ShadowZ> <Echoo> and there will be no L3s
  79. Sep 18 01:49:21 <ShadowZ> <Echoo> and thus, a useless addition
  80. Sep 18 01:49:23 <Assad-Khan> The logs thingy Kirito
  81. Sep 18 01:49:23 <ShadowZ> @Kirito
  82. Sep 18 01:49:23 <Farhan> if you can download for each applicant why not for the whole team?
  83. Sep 18 01:49:28 <ShadowZ> no one mentioned Shanu
  84. Sep 18 01:49:42 <Kirito> alright.
  85. Sep 18 01:49:49 <PapaGonzo> lmao
  86. Sep 18 01:49:49 <Echoo> log access is a staff tool, it shouldn't be a standard base
  87. Sep 18 01:50:13 <PapaGonzo> above all I think we already rely too much on logs
  88. Sep 18 01:50:14 <Echoo> applicant once in a while.. and nope I don't download logs of each applicant, sometimes, I don't get time
  89. Sep 18 01:50:17 <Farhan> then why you lean on it in extentions and additions?
  90. Sep 18 01:50:20 <PapaGonzo> and use them way too often
  91. Sep 18 01:50:39 <HeadBoss> I suggest to bring back CB activities topic
  92. Sep 18 01:50:45 <Assad-Khan> ^^
  93. Sep 18 01:50:45 <HeadBoss> In which they are obliged to report events
  94. Sep 18 01:50:47 <Dream> no please
  95. Sep 18 01:50:48 <Echoo> as you see.. none downloaded logs for the extension applications
  96. Sep 18 01:50:52 <Echoo> because there is no time
  97. Sep 18 01:50:58 <HeadBoss> That's a way better for them and you don't have to check their whole logs
  98. Sep 18 01:51:00 <Dream> we area already helping in criminals' riots
  99. Sep 18 01:51:04 <Kirito> but you did check at least @Echoo..
  100. Sep 18 01:51:07 <Dream> and helping newbies by using warpto command
  101. Sep 18 01:51:08 <Farhan> then thats HCBs problem that they dont have time
  102. Sep 18 01:51:13 <Farhan> you can ask any L3+
  103. Sep 18 01:51:19 <Assad-Khan> CBs must be obliged to host events, yeah. I talked that with Echoo before, you remember? Echoo
  104. Sep 18 01:51:23 <Farhan> like we used to get help from lucifer back then\
  105. Sep 18 01:51:56 <Echoo> again, yes, logs may be downloaded, and it may be not
  106. Sep 18 01:52:14 <Echoo> there is nothing in the system that actually stands beside downloading logs for everything
  107. Sep 18 01:52:34 <Farhan> not for everything... its for reviewing your own damn team
  108. Sep 18 01:52:41 <Farhan> which you are supposed to be leading
  109. Sep 18 01:52:45 <Farhan> and are doing it
  110. Sep 18 01:52:57 <Echoo> the team has nothing to do with the staff tool..
  111. Sep 18 01:53:20 <Echoo> we have access to see CBs logs in-game, but it's not that cool
  112. Sep 18 01:53:25 <Farhan> then dont use logs from now on with anything related to CBs as its a staff tool
  113. Sep 18 01:53:25 <Echoo> yet it shows who is active and who is not
  114. Sep 18 01:53:46 <Dream> using staff tools to see how many team chat hits they got is abusable?
  115. Sep 18 01:53:56 <Farhan> idk lol
  116. Sep 18 01:54:02 <Kirito> :fp:
  117. Sep 18 01:54:12 <PapaGonzo> just don't use logs lmao
  118. Sep 18 01:54:17 <Kirito> lol gonzo :3
  119. Sep 18 01:54:23 <PapaGonzo> go back to the old fashioned stuff
  120. Sep 18 01:54:26 * AlbusDumbledore (AlbusDumbl@9E2BD44A.C17EFF41.2B381C6F.IP) has joined
  121. Sep 18 01:54:27 <PapaGonzo> have CB's report events
  122. Sep 18 01:54:28 <Farhan> bcs back then when we had no L3, lucifer used to help us
  123. Sep 18 01:54:28 <Kirito> then how they will know, who's active?
  124. Sep 18 01:54:30 <Assad-Khan> We can vote based on applicant activity ingame and of course we notice them
  125. Sep 18 01:54:44 <Echoo> lucifer used to help us back then, yes
  126. Sep 18 01:54:49 <Farhan> like in reviews or somthing when bokila was HCB
  127. Sep 18 01:54:51 <AlbusDumbledore> sry i was in the wrong channel :S
  128. Sep 18 01:54:53 <Kirito> then what's the problem now?
  129. Sep 18 01:54:56 <Dream> report events? please we are already helping in criminals' riots.
  130. Sep 18 01:55:03 <Echoo> but still.. logs are not supposed to be downloaded every single time
  131. Sep 18 01:55:09 <Kirito> why not?
  132. Sep 18 01:55:11 <Echoo> we used it a couple of times, and that's ok
  133. Sep 18 01:55:15 <Assad-Khan> Dream, not all of CBs.
  134. Sep 18 01:55:17 <Kirito> because it's out of team stuff?
  135. Sep 18 01:55:22 <Echoo> I stay away from downloading logs because I know we're not supposed to
  136. Sep 18 01:55:31 <HeadBoss> Logs should be downloaded when promoting someone or adding him
  137. Sep 18 01:55:48 <Kirito> that's the common sense headboss.
  138. Sep 18 01:55:54 <Farhan> franco, we are not supposed to download logs for CBs review like once in 2-3 months?
  139. Sep 18 01:56:00 <Echoo> I use the log access once-in-a-while because back then, lucifer used to help us
  140. Sep 18 01:56:20 <Echoo> and I totally dislike making a rule to force the log access to be used
  141. Sep 18 01:56:32 <Echoo> that's not what it is meant for
  142. Sep 18 01:56:47 * PapaGonzo (~Jos@cit-BA2B7FE.cpe.netcabo.pt) has left (Leaving)
  143. Sep 18 01:56:56 * PapaGonzo (~Jos@cit-BA2B7FE.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined
  144. Sep 18 01:57:12 <Farhan> its for the team to be reviewed as you are not online 24/7 so how are you supposed to judge a CB for his promotion/demotion if you cant even see what he is doing?
  145. Sep 18 01:57:18 <Dream> so we have to report activities now to get promoted right ?
  146. Sep 18 01:57:37 <Echoo> anything but not logs?
  147. Sep 18 01:57:41 <Echoo> let's see what PCs do
  148. Sep 18 01:57:45 <Farhan> anything like?
  149. Sep 18 01:57:48 <Kirito> Farhan they will through dear AHCB's?
  150. Sep 18 01:58:00 <Farhan> why we have to copy others man?
  151. Sep 18 01:58:10 <Kirito> they do Petrol/Training..
  152. Sep 18 01:58:14 <Echoo> I was sarcastic, pcs do nothing =d
  153. Sep 18 01:58:15 <HeadBoss> Wait wait
  154. Sep 18 01:58:18 <HeadBoss> Instead of downloading logs each time
  155. Sep 18 01:58:23 <Echoo> and I'm not saying that we should do nothing
  156. Sep 18 01:58:29 <Kirito> ._.
  157. Sep 18 01:58:30 <HeadBoss> We can keep eyes on CBs
  158. Sep 18 01:58:30 <Dream> PCs have 6 or 7 ranks
  159. Sep 18 01:58:40 <Kirito> Then who will keep eye on you?
  160. Sep 18 01:58:46 <Assad-Khan> HCBs
  161. Sep 18 01:58:48 <HeadBoss> HCBs
  162. Sep 18 01:58:50 <Assad-Khan> And AHCBS too
  163. Sep 18 01:58:51 <Echoo> HCBs have the access to in-game logs
  164. Sep 18 01:58:53 <Kirito> Since HCB's are not available as it's mantion before.
  165. Sep 18 01:58:54 <Kirito> -_-
  166. Sep 18 01:58:56 <Farhan> i am saying just make a review of whole team atleast once in 3-4 months not download logs everyday
  167. Sep 18 01:58:56 <Echoo> used eventnotes and such
  168. Sep 18 01:59:03 <ShadowZ> here my eyes O.O
  169. Sep 18 01:59:05 <Assad-Khan> Then AHCBs are here for a reason
  170. Sep 18 01:59:07 <Assad-Khan> Kirito
  171. Sep 18 01:59:11 <Kirito> eyes of hawks..
  172. Sep 18 01:59:16 <Dream> i agree farhan
  173. Sep 18 01:59:17 <Assad-Khan> Ok
  174. Sep 18 01:59:19 <ShadowZ> xD
  175. Sep 18 01:59:36 <Kirito> exactly as farhan said, there is no harm for that.
  176. Sep 18 01:59:36 <HeadBoss> Ok, somebody tell me final decisions
  177. Sep 18 01:59:38 <Dream> we used this system since 2 years and no one complained about it
  178. Sep 18 01:59:49 <Dream> complaint*
  179. Sep 18 01:59:53 <Dream> complain* i mean
  180. Sep 18 01:59:57 <Kirito> think again.
  181. Sep 18 02:00:09 <Farhan> and check his login hits, time he played in last X months and his teamchat hits thats all... you dont need to abuse logs for others
  182. Sep 18 02:00:11 <Echoo> when was the last time I downloaded logs?
  183. Sep 18 02:00:18 <Kirito> let me tel..
  184. Sep 18 02:00:21 <Echoo> I'm more than sure it's no less than 5 months
  185. Sep 18 02:00:32 <ShadowZ> mine was 2 weeks as i believe
  186. Sep 18 02:00:36 <ShadowZ> but not for CBs xD
  187. Sep 18 02:00:38 <Dream> on: 06 03, 2017, 02:28:06 pm
  188. Sep 18 02:00:41 <ShadowZ> mostly handling scamming cases IG
  189. Sep 18 02:00:42 <Dream> echoo
  190. Sep 18 02:00:59 <Kirito> there you go. In my last apps. 09/07/2017
  191. Sep 18 02:01:09 <Assad-Khan> I have a point
  192. Sep 18 02:01:11 <Farhan> echoo my friend, i am saying just make it atleast once in 5 months.... almost you have to check logs twice a month
  193. Sep 18 02:01:13 <Kirito> let me show the proof.?
  194. Sep 18 02:01:29 <Farhan> an year not month
  195. Sep 18 02:01:30 <Kirito> here you go: https://cit2.net/index.php?topic=284381.0 (Read post date).
  196. Sep 18 02:01:31 <Assad-Khan> We add back the old criminal boss activities system, where CBs must host and post their riots in a post
  197. Sep 18 02:01:32 <Farhan> ffs
  198. Sep 18 02:01:44 <Assad-Khan> So that can help us besides logs
  199. Sep 18 02:01:53 <Kirito> assad, you want farming of events?
  200. Sep 18 02:01:54 <Echoo> but, do riots go fine now?
  201. Sep 18 02:02:04 <Assad-Khan> No kirito
  202. Sep 18 02:02:04 <HeadBoss> YEah
  203. Sep 18 02:02:04 <Echoo> I feel like people are not attending
  204. Sep 18 02:02:11 <HeadBoss> Bettert than before
  205. Sep 18 02:02:12 <Assad-Khan> But post your event when you host it
  206. Sep 18 02:02:18 <Kirito> Yes some of them's sleeping.
  207. Sep 18 02:02:24 <HeadBoss> Do you have to farm events
  208. Sep 18 02:02:31 <Assad-Khan> Echoo, riots are getting better nowdays
  209. Sep 18 02:02:33 <HeadBoss> You can host 10 events per month at least with a good rate
  210. Sep 18 02:02:38 <Farhan> « on: 03-07-2017, 14:20:35 »
  211. Sep 18 02:02:40 <Farhan> eww
  212. Sep 18 02:02:49 <Kirito> yes farhan.
  213. Sep 18 02:03:12 <Echoo> those were logs of 4 applications based on the system that tad built
  214. Sep 18 02:03:17 <Echoo> that I never liked
  215. Sep 18 02:03:22 <Echoo> I meant, the whole team logs
  216. Sep 18 02:03:24 <Echoo> I did it once
  217. Sep 18 02:03:36 <ShadowZ> What farhan says that we shall use logs as a way of confirm to make sure that we're making a right decision over whoever we're talking about
  218. Sep 18 02:03:42 <Echoo> out of a helping hand, and I actually regret because I feel like I wasn't supposed to
  219. Sep 18 02:03:47 <ShadowZ> and what echoo means that we shall not use it in an abusive way
  220. Sep 18 02:03:54 <Echoo> I did it once and I wasn't thinking about making it again
  221. Sep 18 02:03:58 <ShadowZ> as these logs were meant to be for L3+ for a purpose
  222. Sep 18 02:04:03 <ShadowZ> am i right?
  223. Sep 18 02:04:04 <Farhan> SO shadow dont use it an abusive wauy lol
  224. Sep 18 02:04:08 <ShadowZ> ok
  225. Sep 18 02:04:13 <Farhan> only you and echoo will use it
  226. Sep 18 02:04:14 <Echoo> that's why I objected
  227. Sep 18 02:04:23 <Farhan> so trust yourself and dont abuse it
  228. Sep 18 02:04:31 <HeadBoss> Farhan, what if they resign
  229. Sep 18 02:04:37 <Echoo> ^
  230. Sep 18 02:04:38 <ShadowZ> i am using it nowadays to solve scamming cases IG
  231. Sep 18 02:04:42 <HeadBoss> We should get help from l3 staffs
  232. Sep 18 02:04:42 <Echoo> and not only that
  233. Sep 18 02:04:43 <ShadowZ> but in a peaceful way tbh
  234. Sep 18 02:04:43 <Kirito> resign for what?
  235. Sep 18 02:04:45 <Farhan> then we can ask any L3
  236. Sep 18 02:05:02 <Slammer> It is effective
  237. Sep 18 02:05:10 <Assad-Khan> ShadowZ, you're cool :PP
  238. Sep 18 02:05:12 <Echoo> we can't be sure that there will always be an L3 staff helping the team
  239. Sep 18 02:05:13 <Slammer> So worth implementing it
  240. Sep 18 02:05:27 <Farhan> they are supposed to be helping you echoo
  241. Sep 18 02:05:29 <Dream> can we jump to the next topic if you guys are done ?
  242. Sep 18 02:05:30 <ShadowZ> trying to be a good admin xD
  243. Sep 18 02:05:31 <Kirito> Well just give a chance, there is..
  244. Sep 18 02:05:37 <Assad-Khan> Hh
  245. Sep 18 02:05:38 <PapaGonzo> Bit hard not to have the whole log thing blow into something abusive if you start using it for every single person who's in the team or wants to join the team, but that's just my old man opinion
  246. Sep 18 02:05:41 <Farhan> they ahve given the duty for a purpose
  247. Sep 18 02:05:43 <ShadowZ> jk i mean i am trying to make everything goes by rules, but in a good way
  248. Sep 18 02:05:51 <Farhan> as i said i am always up for the help
  249. Sep 18 02:05:52 <Echoo> I don't know.. it's just my vote tho.. if ya'll agree then there's nothing I can do
  250. Sep 18 02:06:07 <Echoo> but, do you really think it's not called 'abusing'?
  251. Sep 18 02:06:07 <Assad-Khan> Ok vote on it
  252. Sep 18 02:06:11 <HeadBoss> Ok, let step up to another topic
  253. Sep 18 02:06:19 <HeadBoss> It's been 1 hour and we're talking in the same things
  254. Sep 18 02:06:35 <Farhan> lets say majority is the authority
  255. Sep 18 02:06:50 <Farhan> vote for it and if majority disagreed i will leave it
  256. Sep 18 02:06:57 <Kirito> About logs?
  257. Sep 18 02:07:00 <Assad-Khan> Yea
  258. Sep 18 02:07:01 <Farhan> yes
  259. Sep 18 02:07:03 <Echoo> I say no
  260. Sep 18 02:07:07 <Kirito> I say yes.
  261. Sep 18 02:07:15 <Dream> a yes goes from me
  262. Sep 18 02:07:16 <Slammer> I say yes
  263. Sep 18 02:07:28 <PapaGonzo> no from me, no for using logs in any grounds whatsoever.
  264. Sep 18 02:07:33 <HeadBoss> I say to check logs of Trials and ECBs; only them.. not AHCBs
  265. Sep 18 02:07:38 <Kirito> We need it but not an abusive way.
  266. Sep 18 02:07:47 <Kirito> Why not for AHCB's and HCB's too?
  267. Sep 18 02:07:48 <Echoo> no for using logs in any grounds, I believe that's fine
  268. Sep 18 02:07:52 <Echoo> just the same as SOs and PCs
  269. Sep 18 02:07:52 <Kirito> ain't they part of team?
  270. Sep 18 02:07:55 <Farhan> STAFFS GET KICKED FOR ABUSING LOGS ACCESS
  271. Sep 18 02:08:06 <HeadBoss> They are but their duties are not like CB and ECBs
  272. Sep 18 02:08:17 <HeadBoss> AHCBs and HCBs are to take decisions, make changes etc..
  273. Sep 18 02:08:33 <HeadBoss> We can notice an active AHCB/HCB from discussions and meetings
  274. Sep 18 02:08:33 <Echoo> downloading logs for things that are not related to staff duties is abusing farha-n
  275. Sep 18 02:08:42 <Echoo> kaka and I believe lapeno were once demoted/kicked
  276. Sep 18 02:08:48 <Farhan> got damit.... GOD help you guys.... i am out.
  277. Sep 18 02:08:53 * Farhan (farhankhan@3D776117.36DA0B57.F728737E.IP) has left (Leaving)
  278. Sep 18 02:08:57 <Dream> gg
  279. Sep 18 02:09:20 <PapaGonzo> lmao
  280. Sep 18 02:09:21 <Slammer> Why should it be used? Because it is much more effective in evaluating and determining the actual activity.... And using it for such purposes is not abuse unless the one whose getting logs is actually a fag who is trying to abuse his access
  281. Sep 18 02:09:31 <Echoo> maybe suggest a system that shows everyone's activity instead of leaning on staff tools?
  282. Sep 18 02:09:39 <HeadBoss> Y
  283. Sep 18 02:09:40 <Assad-Khan> Already told you
  284. Sep 18 02:09:46 <PapaGonzo> <Echoo> maybe suggest a system that shows everyone's activity instead of leaning on staff tools?
  285. Sep 18 02:09:49 <Assad-Khan> ADD BACK THE OLD DAMN CB SYSTEM
  286. Sep 18 02:09:56 <PapaGonzo> <Assad-Khan> ADD BACK THE OLD DAMN CB SYSTEM
  287. Sep 18 02:09:57 <Slammer> Add what? Spamming criminal events?
  288. Sep 18 02:09:58 <PapaGonzo> YEES
  289. Sep 18 02:10:02 <PapaGonzo> noooo
  290. Sep 18 02:10:05 <Slammer> Not effective
  291. Sep 18 02:10:06 <Dream> Don't let us to post activities as CBs please
  292. Sep 18 02:10:07 <Assad-Khan> CB ACTIVITIES
  293. Sep 18 02:10:22 <Assad-Khan> Np
  294. Sep 18 02:10:23 <Dream> we are helping in their riots already, why would we host riots?
  295. Sep 18 02:10:30 <Assad-Khan> No*
  296. Sep 18 02:10:32 <Assad-Khan> I didn't say to host events everyday
  297. Sep 18 02:10:34 <Assad-Khan> I say
  298. Sep 18 02:10:37 <Echoo> if you guys really need an affective system
  299. Sep 18 02:10:42 <Assad-Khan> To report your event whenever you host one
  300. Sep 18 02:10:43 <HeadBoss> Dream
  301. Sep 18 02:10:46 <HeadBoss> Nobody told you to host
  302. Sep 18 02:10:47 <Echoo> then we should first suggest punishments
  303. Sep 18 02:10:48 <Assad-Khan> Not effective?? CMON
  304. Sep 18 02:10:50 <HeadBoss> You can post events you helped
  305. Sep 18 02:10:52 <Slammer> So let's base criminal Bosses activity on hosting riots and helping them instead of branding into wider varieties such as communication, actually logins activity.... Etc.
  306. Sep 18 02:10:56 <Echoo> the old CB system used to punish for the most trivial stuff
  307. Sep 18 02:11:00 <Dream> the old CB system says that tho headboss
  308. Sep 18 02:11:13 <Kirito> Trivial stuff, eg's?
  309. Sep 18 02:11:13 <Echoo> if a CB misbehaved or actually acted in an immature way
  310. Sep 18 02:11:17 <Assad-Khan> Echoo, i mean the old criminal boss activities
  311. Sep 18 02:11:20 <Echoo> he would be removed without questioning
  312. Sep 18 02:11:24 <Assad-Khan> Obliged to REPORT events
  313. Sep 18 02:11:26 <Assad-Khan> Not to host
  314. Sep 18 02:11:36 <Assad-Khan> Whenever you host one, report it
  315. Sep 18 02:11:45 <Echoo> if someone's activity was not at the needed level
  316. Sep 18 02:11:45 <Dream> but i am only helping
  317. Sep 18 02:11:46 <Assad-Khan> Could be usefull to review CBs
  318. Sep 18 02:11:47 <Dream> not hosting
  319. Sep 18 02:11:48 <Assad-Khan> ain't it
  320. Sep 18 02:11:55 <Dream> yesterday i helped 6 activities in 2 hours
  321. Sep 18 02:11:57 <Echoo> then a punishment would be needed
  322. Sep 18 02:12:00 <Assad-Khan> Ye
  323. Sep 18 02:12:01 <Slammer> We have the opportunity to improve our evaluation and improve the system by using utilities that is there to be used for purposes like this
  324. Sep 18 02:12:10 <HeadBoss> Just fkin punish whoever is doing nothing
  325. Sep 18 02:12:11 <Echoo> what I totally dislike in what I'm saying is
  326. Sep 18 02:12:21 <Slammer> Instead of using a system which will not give us detailed data
  327. Sep 18 02:12:31 <Assad-Khan> The do you have any other idea
  328. Sep 18 02:12:32 <Echoo> this is a GAME and rules wipes the fun that we should get from the GAME
  329. Sep 18 02:12:46 <Echoo> I open my PC to enjoy my time not to be stressed
  330. Sep 18 02:12:47 <Slammer> Okay then let's remove all rules
  331. Sep 18 02:12:57 <Echoo> if I'm not in the mood of going criminal, then I just won't
  332. Sep 18 02:12:59 <Dream> this would be a nice quote
  333. Sep 18 02:13:00 <ShadowZ> ~> Chaos mode: on
  334. Sep 18 02:13:00 <Dream> <Echoo> this is a GAME and rules wipes the fun that we should get from the GAME
  335. Sep 18 02:13:05 <Kirito> lol
  336. Sep 18 02:13:09 <Echoo> I won't follow a rule that tells me to go crim
  337. Sep 18 02:13:10 <Kirito> echoo really
  338. Sep 18 02:13:32 <Echoo> yes?
  339. Sep 18 02:13:45 <Echoo> do you enjoy being forced to do a thing that you don't want to?
  340. Sep 18 02:13:46 <Kirito> Is this meeting wastage of time or what, since you guyz ain't agreeing upon majority?
  341. Sep 18 02:13:48 <Dream> YAS LETS BE COPS
  342. Sep 18 02:13:48 <Slammer> Then logs are much more effective, am I correct? You should do your duty and prove your activity without having to be forced to do something g specific
  343. Sep 18 02:13:56 <ShadowZ> sometimes we gotta go over the rules to reach the horizon of justice
  344. Sep 18 02:13:57 <Echoo> the hell is wasting time
  345. Sep 18 02:14:03 <ShadowZ> but not in all cases
  346. Sep 18 02:14:09 <Echoo> opening your pc is a waste of time actually
  347. Sep 18 02:14:15 <Slammer> If you don't want to do logs or don't have enough time then ask your L3+ mates
  348. Sep 18 02:14:19 <PapaGonzo> lmao kirito people can't be forced to agree on everything nor should they
  349. Sep 18 02:14:25 <Slammer> Oh dear lord
  350. Sep 18 02:14:33 <Slammer> This is annoying
  351. Sep 18 02:14:50 <Kirito> Not forcing at least understand the logic, if need improvement..
  352. Sep 18 02:15:03 <Echoo> what improvements
  353. Sep 18 02:15:11 <PapaGonzo> but me understanding ur logic doesn't mean i agree with your point
  354. Sep 18 02:15:17 <Dream> GUYS
  355. Sep 18 02:15:17 <PapaGonzo> i understand logs can be a important tool
  356. Sep 18 02:15:24 <Assad-Khan> Okey, what was your opinion about the old CB activities system where CBs must post their activities so it helps us out in reviewing them
  357. Sep 18 02:15:30 <Dream> are we in the same subject since one thousands years?
  358. Sep 18 02:15:37 <Kirito> PapaGonzo, who abusive it that's I'm asking?
  359. Sep 18 02:15:56 <Echoo> kirito, once you be a L3
  360. Sep 18 02:15:58 <PapaGonzo> but i also think logs can become too much of a prey on peoples privacy and can be used to check what they said about a or b and they are rather entitled to their opinion
  361. Sep 18 02:15:58 <HeadBoss> Guys; lets talk about this another time or simply not
  362. Sep 18 02:16:03 <Echoo> you will know that logs shouldn't be downloaded for anything
  363. Sep 18 02:16:11 <Echoo> and if you do so, you're abusing
  364. Sep 18 02:17:01 <Dream> alright
  365. Sep 18 02:17:07 <Dream> so can we continue from a new topic?
  366. Sep 18 02:17:17 <Echoo> yes
  367. Sep 18 02:17:20 <Kirito> Level 3 access got to trust worthy, and so yes that's access you have.
  368. Sep 18 02:17:47 <Dream> my suggestions are still on pending
  369. Sep 18 02:17:53 <Echoo> yes it's given to trust worthies but it doesn't mean we can use it for the sake of anything
  370. Sep 18 02:17:53 <Dream> 2 of them got a lot of feedback
  371. Sep 18 02:18:00 <Dream> and it's been 16 days no response
  372. Sep 18 02:18:06 <Echoo> we use it to deal with complaints, ban appeals, and so on
  373. Sep 18 02:18:20 <Kirito> Using for CB system isn't this system trust worthy too?
  374. Sep 18 02:18:29 <Kirito> If not then kick this system out -_-??
  375. Sep 18 02:18:29 <Echoo> I used it because of the system that tad built, and he used to get help from ex L4s
  376. Sep 18 02:18:39 <Echoo> what system?
  377. Sep 18 02:18:46 <Echoo> and could you please be less angry
  378. Sep 18 02:18:49 <Echoo> and chill
  379. Sep 18 02:18:56 <Echoo> you are ruining the chat omg
  380. Sep 18 02:19:02 <Assad-Khan> Dream, adding new skin?
  381. Sep 18 02:19:05 <Kirito> am I?
  382. Sep 18 02:19:07 <Assad-Khan> Not needed imo
  383. Sep 18 02:19:12 <Echoo> yes -_-
  384. Sep 18 02:19:15 <Assad-Khan> We don't even use the current skins
  385. Sep 18 02:19:31 <Dream> there are 3 more suggestions not talking only about new skin
  386. Sep 18 02:19:34 <Kirito> stating the fact = rune ?
  387. Sep 18 02:19:42 <Kirito> okay nvm.
  388. Sep 18 02:19:51 <Echoo> using this emotion -_-
  389. Sep 18 02:19:54 <Echoo> is ruin
  390. Sep 18 02:19:57 <Kirito> -_-?
  391. Sep 18 02:20:02 <HeadBoss> Lets change the topic
  392. Sep 18 02:20:07 <EqiNox> (&HeadBoss) Lets change the topic
  393. Sep 18 02:20:09 <HeadBoss> You guys cause a headache
  394. Sep 18 02:20:12 <Echoo> ya'll are supposed to be active in-game as crims right?
  395. Sep 18 02:20:22 <Echoo> what exactly would bring you fun as a crim
  396. Sep 18 02:20:23 <Dream> indeed headboss
  397. Sep 18 02:20:26 <Echoo> and you can't find it in-game?
  398. Sep 18 02:20:26 <Kirito> why not as a cop too?
  399. Sep 18 02:21:11 <Echoo> personally, I enjoy ARs with friends, and I can't find available friends in-game
  400. Sep 18 02:21:25 <Echoo> so I'd be extremely happy if I attended an AR, and found a CB helping me and waiting for me outside
  401. Sep 18 02:21:30 <Echoo> that's what we should do
  402. Sep 18 02:21:33 <ShadowZ> *cough* liar *cough*
  403. Sep 18 02:21:35 <Kirito> If you only seek for yourself, you will find "None"..
  404. Sep 18 02:21:44 <Echoo> find what crims would have fun trying
  405. Sep 18 02:21:54 <Echoo> and help them reaching that
  406. Sep 18 02:22:20 <Kirito> That's what people girlfriend says, when they wish to get something, am I right shadow?
  407. Sep 18 02:22:24 <Dream> headache
  408. Sep 18 02:22:45 <ShadowZ> am way done with anything that includes the word "gf"
  409. Sep 18 02:22:45 <Assad-Khan> Any other point to talk about,
  410. Sep 18 02:22:53 <HeadBoss> Yeah pleas
  411. Sep 18 02:22:54 <Assad-Khan> Or shall I sleep lol
  412. Sep 18 02:23:07 <AlbusDumbledore> Since you did not agree on anything, this meeting is a waste of time, sorry guys ..
  413. Sep 18 02:23:10 <Echoo> I WANT TO WATCH ANOTHER EPISODE FROM GAME OF THRONES THEN SLEEP
  414. Sep 18 02:23:12 <Assad-Khan> Best thing you do eveer shadow, simply like me
  415. Sep 18 02:23:16 <Echoo> because I have a surgery tomorrow
  416. Sep 18 02:23:24 <Kirito> of?
  417. Sep 18 02:23:27 <Echoo> if the surgery failed and I lost my vision
  418. Sep 18 02:23:27 <PapaGonzo> Well people are more interested in making dramatic exits than actually talking
  419. Sep 18 02:23:28 <Assad-Khan> It's not albus
  420. Sep 18 02:23:34 <Echoo> kirito would be happy I'm 100% sure =D
  421. Sep 18 02:23:36 <Assad-Khan> we already agreed on something
  422. Sep 18 02:23:39 <PapaGonzo> and more focused on getting everyone to side with them than to actually be reasonable
  423. Sep 18 02:23:41 <Kirito> lol?
  424. Sep 18 02:23:43 <Dream> guys
  425. Sep 18 02:23:50 <Kirito> I would be happy, if you lost your vision?
  426. Sep 18 02:23:52 <Dream> did we just came here to chat or discuss?
  427. Sep 18 02:23:57 <Echoo> I'm kidding kirito
  428. Sep 18 02:24:00 <Echoo> gonzo man I don't know why but I love you
  429. Sep 18 02:24:03 <EqiNox> Guys okay. Vote about one of dream's suggestions; New Skin for CBs -1 / +1
  430. Sep 18 02:24:06 * AlbusDumbledore has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
  431. Sep 18 02:24:10 <Echoo> I give you my HCB membership, and you speak on my behalf
  432. Sep 18 02:24:12 <Assad-Khan> -1
  433. Sep 18 02:24:19 <Echoo> because I agree on everything u say
  434. Sep 18 02:24:32 <Assad-Khan> We don't use out current /gocb skins
  435. Sep 18 02:24:33 <Kirito> Okay echo, I'm taking responsibility of it, don't worry man.
  436. Sep 18 02:24:37 <Assad-Khan> new skins are not needed
  437. Sep 18 02:24:39 <Assad-Khan> imo
  438. Sep 18 02:24:46 <Echoo> we shouldn't suggest features for us
  439. Sep 18 02:24:53 <Echoo> we should suggest features for the side
  440. Sep 18 02:24:55 <Assad-Khan> Ye
  441. Sep 18 02:25:06 <Echoo> but the thing is.. none of us can script
  442. Sep 18 02:25:06 <EqiNox> Agreed, we are not even using gocb skins
  443. Sep 18 02:25:07 <Assad-Khan> Even the 3rd suggestion, impossible to be added
  444. Sep 18 02:25:11 <Echoo> we barely click on the login button
  445. Sep 18 02:25:15 <Echoo> back then ryan used to help
  446. Sep 18 02:25:15 <Dream> okay lock it
  447. Sep 18 02:25:18 <Dream> and set as denied
  448. Sep 18 02:25:22 <PapaGonzo> Dream -1
  449. Sep 18 02:25:24 <EqiNox> Aight
  450. Sep 18 02:25:25 <Dream> there are 2 more suggestions
  451. Sep 18 02:25:26 <Assad-Khan> We can't move apps to ^rivate board
  452. Sep 18 02:25:27 <Assad-Khan> we can't
  453. Sep 18 02:25:30 <Assad-Khan> WE CAN4T
  454. Sep 18 02:25:32 <Assad-Khan> WE CANT
  455. Sep 18 02:25:32 <Dream> dude
  456. Sep 18 02:25:36 <Dream> we changed it
  457. Sep 18 02:25:43 <Assad-Khan> Not allowed
  458. Sep 18 02:25:43 <Assad-Khan> We CANT
  459. Sep 18 02:25:44 <Dream> if you bother to read the second page
  460. Sep 18 02:25:49 <Dream> you will understand
  461. Sep 18 02:25:49 <HeadBoss> Ok, stop this now<
  462. Sep 18 02:25:50 <Assad-Khan> ohh
  463. Sep 18 02:25:53 <Assad-Khan> WE CAN
  464. Sep 18 02:26:00 <HeadBoss> Do you have something else to discuss or gn
  465. Sep 18 02:26:06 <Assad-Khan> Dream I'm kidding ._.
  466. Sep 18 02:26:13 <Dream> gg
  467. Sep 18 02:26:14 <Kirito> headboss go sleep if you doesn't care
  468. Sep 18 02:26:16 <Dream> i have headache now
  469. Sep 18 02:26:18 <Kirito> have a nice sleep.
  470. Sep 18 02:26:24 <EqiNox> H CBR, only 3 voted. Take a look and vote please
  471. Sep 18 02:26:26 <Assad-Khan> Why you take it in a serious way
  472. Sep 18 02:26:28 <Assad-Khan> lol
  473. Sep 18 02:26:33 <Assad-Khan> I vote no
  474. Sep 18 02:26:37 <HeadBoss> I wouldn't be here if I don't care @Kirito
  475. Sep 18 02:26:43 <Dream> i am not allowed to vote so
  476. Sep 18 02:27:00 <Echoo> why you're not allowed?
  477. Sep 18 02:27:07 <Dream> i am Criminal Boss
  478. Sep 18 02:27:07 <Echoo> you're with us in this channel
  479. Sep 18 02:27:10 <Assad-Khan> Here is a meeting
  480. Sep 18 02:27:10 <Dream> only ECBs are allowed
  481. Sep 18 02:27:12 <Echoo> you have a keyboard, you have a mouse
  482. Sep 18 02:27:16 <Echoo> you can type
  483. Sep 18 02:27:16 * AlbusDumbledore (AlbusDumbl@9E2BD44A.C17EFF41.2B381C6F.IP) has joined
  484. Sep 18 02:27:19 <Echoo> then you can vote
  485. Sep 18 02:27:23 <Dream> i can type but rules are rules
  486. Sep 18 02:27:34 <Kirito> Who ever agree but happens only what HCB's on agree that's it.
  487. Sep 18 02:27:49 <Assad-Khan> WOn't happen anymore
  488. Sep 18 02:27:54 <Kirito> why not?
  489. Sep 18 02:27:57 <Dream> Shadow set a rule which allows only ECBs to vote Echoo
  490. Sep 18 02:28:01 <Dream> that's why i can not vote
  491. Sep 18 02:28:05 <Dream> due to my rank
  492. Sep 18 02:28:12 <Assad-Khan> We're not voting on applicant :D
  493. Sep 18 02:28:26 <Assad-Khan> Also
  494. Sep 18 02:28:27 <Franco> what you really need to think is if a hierarchy is needed here, it is indeed needed for certain systems but is it really needed for CBs? I see that ranks has certain *duties* yet how do they affect the criminal community? you guys need to remember that criminal bosses are meant to guide the criminal community and not to use it as a personal and private team, its there for the community
  495. Sep 18 02:28:33 <Dream> <EqiNox> H CBR, only 3 voted. Take a look and vote please
  496. Sep 18 02:28:34 <Assad-Khan> this a meeting
  497. Sep 18 02:28:35 <Assad-Khan> special thing
  498. Sep 18 02:28:52 <Franco> also focus on changes that affect the community, none of what you guys have discussed here doesnt not improve anything at all
  499. Sep 18 02:28:59 <Franco> as it does not affect the community in any way
  500. Sep 18 02:29:23 <Franco> well it kinda does, it gets you all to argue agaisnt eachother
  501. Sep 18 02:29:24 <Echoo> right
  502. Sep 18 02:29:34 <Echoo> <Echoo> we shouldn't suggest features for us
  503. Sep 18 02:29:34 <Echoo> <Echoo> we should suggest features for the side
  504. Sep 18 02:29:37 <Dream> what we talked in 2 hours gone after Franco's reply.
  505. Sep 18 02:29:38 <ShadowZ> Franc, what nowadays crims wants (with all respect) guns and hoes
  506. Sep 18 02:29:40 <ShadowZ> + cash
  507. Sep 18 02:29:44 <Echoo> <Echoo> ya'll are supposed to be active in-game as crims right?
  508. Sep 18 02:29:44 <Echoo> <Echoo> what exactly would bring you fun as a crim
  509. Sep 18 02:29:46 <Echoo> <Echoo> and you can't find it in-game?
  510. Sep 18 02:29:50 <Echoo> <Echoo> personally, I enjoy ARs with friends, and I can't find available friends in-game
  511. Sep 18 02:29:50 <Echoo> <Echoo> so I'd be extremely happy if I attended an AR, and found a CB helping me and waiting for me outside
  512. Sep 18 02:29:51 <Echoo> <Echoo> that's what we should do
  513. Sep 18 02:29:58 <Echoo> what I said stand for what you've said
  514. Sep 18 02:30:05 <Kirito> @_@
  515. Sep 18 02:30:06 <Echoo> I said find what crims would get fun from, and help them
  516. Sep 18 02:30:23 <ShadowZ> kills and cash, that's what they want
  517. Sep 18 02:30:30 <ShadowZ> 80% of them
  518. Sep 18 02:30:30 <Kirito> that you did like era's ago..
  519. Sep 18 02:30:30 <PapaGonzo> regarding dream's topic to move the applications to private board
  520. Sep 18 02:30:31 <PapaGonzo> https://cit2.net/index.php?topic=290807.msg4302151#msg4302151
  521. Sep 18 02:30:38 <Assad-Khan> No gonzo
  522. Sep 18 02:30:38 <PapaGonzo> i made that counter suggestion
  523. Sep 18 02:30:42 * Richiniro (Richiniro@E7A2087A.E06D4D66.42489120.IP) has joined
  524. Sep 18 02:30:43 <PapaGonzo> which might actually work better
  525. Sep 18 02:30:46 <Richiniro> test
  526. Sep 18 02:30:47 <Richiniro> hello
  527. Sep 18 02:30:49 <PapaGonzo> passed
  528. Sep 18 02:30:50 <Richiniro> sorry for being late
  529. Sep 18 02:30:51 <Echoo> you're too late richi
  530. Sep 18 02:30:51 <PapaGonzo> sup
  531. Sep 18 02:30:53 <Franco> getting login hits or stuff from logs is not needed at all, fine you confirm that X cb is active
  532. Sep 18 02:30:54 <Assad-Khan> We're not allowed to move apps to private board
  533. Sep 18 02:30:55 <Echoo> you missed important sayings
  534. Sep 18 02:30:56 <Richiniro> ffs stfu echoo xD
  535. Sep 18 02:30:56 <ShadowZ> way late
  536. Sep 18 02:30:59 <Franco> but what does that CB do for the community?
  537. Sep 18 02:31:00 <Richiniro> LOL really?
  538. Sep 18 02:31:06 <Richiniro> gonzo i'm late? Q_Q
  539. Sep 18 02:31:17 <ShadowZ> well it meant to lead crims and to show them what does it mean to be a true criminal @Franco
  540. Sep 18 02:31:23 <Dream> Assad
  541. Sep 18 02:31:25 <ShadowZ> that we used to do before
  542. Sep 18 02:31:25 <Echoo> even franc-o agrees that logs are not heavily needed
  543. Sep 18 02:31:25 <PapaGonzo> yea a bit but didn't miss anything too big tbh
  544. Sep 18 02:31:31 <Echoo> idk why everyone turned against me
  545. Sep 18 02:31:31 <Assad-Khan> Ys Dream
  546. Sep 18 02:31:33 <Dream> count my suggestion like a discussion
  547. Sep 18 02:31:38 <Dream> and go to the 2nd page
  548. Sep 18 02:31:40 <Assad-Khan> OK
  549. Sep 18 02:31:42 <Assad-Khan> Look
  550. Sep 18 02:31:45 <ShadowZ> but nowadays, criminals have a way different look at CBs
  551. Sep 18 02:31:48 <Dream> and take a look, so you will understand what i mean
  552. Sep 18 02:31:52 <ShadowZ> and once we're trying to fix smth
  553. Sep 18 02:31:56 <Assad-Khan> we're not allowed to use private board for apps
  554. Sep 18 02:31:58 <ShadowZ> some guys just appear out of nowhere
  555. Sep 18 02:32:00 <Richiniro> they start whinning
  556. Sep 18 02:32:09 <ShadowZ> saying that it's just a bullshit
  557. Sep 18 02:32:09 <Richiniro> like willypoo and mashupper
  558. Sep 18 02:32:17 <ShadowZ> and CBs are no longer needed.. etc
  559. Sep 18 02:32:22 <ShadowZ> biased or fked up system
  560. Sep 18 02:32:22 <Franco> lets be honest, most criminal bosses see the criminal boss team like something to achieve, to get a tag besides their names and thats it
  561. Sep 18 02:32:31 <Kirito> Let me explain something, As currently system is "Checking of CB's logs except HCB's/AHCB's" though I'm against that system. Why not check HCB
  562. Sep 18 02:32:33 <Kirito> 'too..
  563. Sep 18 02:32:39 <Dream> okay assad go lock that topic tho
  564. Sep 18 02:32:48 <Assad-Khan> I can't but look
  565. Sep 18 02:32:58 <Kirito> Exactly franco.
  566. Sep 18 02:32:58 <Assad-Khan> You my point Dream?
  567. Sep 18 02:33:00 <Dream> as i see it's not needed anymore
  568. Sep 18 02:33:01 <ShadowZ> kinda yes franc
  569. Sep 18 02:33:05 <Dream> i got what you mean assad yeah
  570. Sep 18 02:33:08 <Assad-Khan> Same happened to SO system
  571. Sep 18 02:33:12 <Richiniro> i guess they check HCB logins hits
  572. Sep 18 02:33:15 <Richiniro> right?
  573. Sep 18 02:33:21 <Dream> any mod can lock all my topics in private board
  574. Sep 18 02:33:24 <Assad-Khan> When a high staff confirmed that private board cant be used to discuss apps
  575. Sep 18 02:33:24 <PapaGonzo> ok so can i lock the 2 topic that dream has brought up? (skin and apps)
  576. Sep 18 02:33:29 <EqiNox> Locking and marking as denied skin suggestion, everyone okay about this?
  577. Sep 18 02:33:30 <Dream> yeah go for it
  578. Sep 18 02:33:37 <Dream> there are 3 topics btw
  579. Sep 18 02:33:39 <Dream> lock them all
  580. Sep 18 02:33:41 <PapaGonzo> oh eqi u on the case?
  581. Sep 18 02:33:45 <EqiNox> Yep
  582. Sep 18 02:33:45 <Echoo> yes eqi
  583. Sep 18 02:33:46 <Richiniro> https://cit2.net/index.php?topic=271204.0
  584. Sep 18 02:33:46 <Echoo> lock em
  585. Sep 18 02:33:50 <Franco> im not saying that ranks should be removed, its cool and stuff yet you guys need to focus more on gettting CBs to do more stuff that involves the community
  586. Sep 18 02:33:51 <Richiniro> the logins are stated kritio
  587. Sep 18 02:33:53 <Assad-Khan> Lock the apps thing
  588. Sep 18 02:34:06 <PapaGonzo> Richi i already mentioned that topic
  589. Sep 18 02:34:16 <Dream> [Suggestion] Re-enabling JFM events countable at Activities topic
  590. Sep 18 02:34:17 <PapaGonzo> and yes i agree franco
  591. Sep 18 02:34:18 <Dream> lock this tho
  592. Sep 18 02:34:22 <Dream> not needed anymore
  593. Sep 18 02:34:56 <HeadBoss> Taking care of the team is like taking care of the criminal side franc
  594. Sep 18 02:35:01 <Echoo> Then let's work as a team, let's gather attention
  595. Sep 18 02:35:09 <Richiniro> yes eqi i don't mind
  596. Sep 18 02:35:14 <Echoo> if 5 CBs kept committing crime together
  597. Sep 18 02:35:23 <Echoo> we would get help from the side
  598. Sep 18 02:35:29 <Richiniro> +++ agreed Echoo
  599. Sep 18 02:35:32 <Echoo> we can spam the chat, who cares
  600. Sep 18 02:35:37 <Echoo> if we actually started playing
  601. Sep 18 02:35:42 <Kirito> Is this is echoo or whom?
  602. Sep 18 02:35:43 <Echoo> we will force all of them to play
  603. Sep 18 02:35:47 <HeadBoss> Ok ok great
  604. Sep 18 02:35:50 <AlbusDumbledore> ^
  605. Sep 18 02:35:57 <Richiniro> lol kirito
  606. Sep 18 02:35:58 <HeadBoss> Lets talk about something else
  607. Sep 18 02:36:02 <Richiniro> he is echoo
  608. Sep 18 02:36:06 <Assad-Khan> ^
  609. Sep 18 02:36:11 <ShadowZ> way back then
  610. Sep 18 02:36:13 <Echoo> Be active on whatsapp or somewhere
  611. Sep 18 02:36:16 <HeadBoss> PapaGonzo
  612. Sep 18 02:36:22 <HeadBoss> Since you were the one who started the meeting
  613. Sep 18 02:36:23 <Assad-Khan> Change the topic, something related to crim side if anyone has a point
  614. Sep 18 02:36:24 <Echoo> and once 4 or more CBs can be in-game
  615. Sep 18 02:36:27 <HeadBoss> What do you want to tak abotu
  616. Sep 18 02:36:29 <Echoo> ask more to come on line
  617. Sep 18 02:36:32 <Echoo> and actually play the game
  618. Sep 18 02:36:33 <Franco> meh headbos, criminal boss team has been always just a bunch of drama
  619. Sep 18 02:36:36 <Richiniro> i'm active on whatsapp
  620. Sep 18 02:36:44 <ShadowZ> we had smth like rewards system in CAMORRA, like be the top at x CEs/riot or get x amount of kills on cops
  621. Sep 18 02:36:44 <PapaGonzo> <Franco> meh headbos, criminal boss team has been always just a bunch of drama
  622. Sep 18 02:36:45 <PapaGonzo> aye!
  623. Sep 18 02:36:47 <Franco> and I myself experienced it, one of the reasons I decided to leave
  624. Sep 18 02:36:48 <Richiniro> the what's is spammy af lmao xdD
  625. Sep 18 02:36:48 <HeadBoss> Cool topic to discuss about h
  626. Sep 18 02:36:59 <Richiniro> why don't you back franco?
  627. Sep 18 02:37:03 <Franco> nothx
  628. Sep 18 02:37:05 <Richiniro> xD
  629. Sep 18 02:37:10 <Franco> I am just stating my opinion
  630. Sep 18 02:37:12 <HeadBoss> Simply add yourself to the roster hh
  631. Sep 18 02:37:17 <HeadBoss> and you'll be a HCB
  632. Sep 18 02:37:18 <HeadBoss> lol
  633. Sep 18 02:37:19 <ShadowZ> Echoo, do u remember when we used to give rewards on kills?
  634. Sep 18 02:37:24 <Echoo> yup
  635. Sep 18 02:37:29 <Echoo> those were a hell of days
  636. Sep 18 02:37:35 <Kirito> -_-
  637. Sep 18 02:37:44 <ShadowZ> well that might help
  638. Sep 18 02:37:45 <Richiniro> lmao kirito
  639. Sep 18 02:37:46 <Echoo> I regret every single dollar
  640. Sep 18 02:37:46 <Richiniro> HAHGAHAHHAA
  641. Sep 18 02:37:47 <ShadowZ> specially in these days
  642. Sep 18 02:37:52 <Franco> now what you really need to ask what keeps causing that drama is
  643. Sep 18 02:37:56 <Assad-Khan> We can decide to make a huge riot
  644. Sep 18 02:38:00 <Franco> is*
  645. Sep 18 02:38:02 <Assad-Khan> Every one week
  646. Sep 18 02:38:05 <Franco> and work on that
  647. Sep 18 02:38:05 <Assad-Khan> By all CB team
  648. Sep 18 02:38:08 <PapaGonzo> Franco there's always been a reason to have drama
  649. Sep 18 02:38:09 <Echoo> what keeps causing the drama is the HCB rank
  650. Sep 18 02:38:14 <Echoo> if we remove HCB rank
  651. Sep 18 02:38:15 <PapaGonzo> in the past it was HCBR's
  652. Sep 18 02:38:15 <ShadowZ> haters :D
  653. Sep 18 02:38:16 <Kirito> but they never work as a team that's the problem..
  654. Sep 18 02:38:18 <ShadowZ> let's ban them
  655. Sep 18 02:38:18 <Kirito> -_-
  656. Sep 18 02:38:19 <ShadowZ> ta da
  657. Sep 18 02:38:25 <HeadBoss> remove hcb rank
  658. Sep 18 02:38:30 <HeadBoss> the drama will be on AHCB rank
  659. Sep 18 02:38:30 <PapaGonzo> now it's the HCB's
  660. Sep 18 02:38:31 <Assad-Khan> I say yes
  661. Sep 18 02:38:43 <ShadowZ> whoever is leading will be blamed
  662. Sep 18 02:38:47 <Richiniro> HCBR was shit
  663. Sep 18 02:38:48 <ShadowZ> either if he did smth or not
  664. Sep 18 02:38:51 <Richiniro> was totally shit
  665. Sep 18 02:38:51 <ShadowZ> that's how it goes
  666. Sep 18 02:38:53 <Franco> I have another question
  667. Sep 18 02:38:54 <Kirito> Removal of anything nothing changed, unless change yourself...
  668. Sep 18 02:38:54 <HeadBoss> Actuallyn whoever is going good
  669. Sep 18 02:38:56 <Assad-Khan> Totally right
  670. Sep 18 02:38:59 <PapaGonzo> there will always be drama as long as there's this rank system
  671. Sep 18 02:39:18 <Assad-Khan> But a HCB rank is always needed
  672. Sep 18 02:39:31 <HeadBoss> Question? state it
  673. Sep 18 02:39:33 <Franco> how does the HCB rank currently works? I mean how do they lead the rest of the team
  674. Sep 18 02:39:36 <PapaGonzo> not that i suggest changing it since it will lead to more drama anyway, because there will always be people who will have some more power cuz not all of us can be mods
  675. Sep 18 02:39:39 <Richiniro> ranks doesn't matter it's not like you get access when you get promoted
  676. Sep 18 02:39:41 <Franco> what do they really do other than reviewing lower cbs
  677. Sep 18 02:39:49 <Echoo> nothing
  678. Sep 18 02:40:02 <Echoo> deciding changes
  679. Sep 18 02:40:03 <ShadowZ> am actually hosting/helping at some riots actually
  680. Sep 18 02:40:05 <Richiniro> they got the access of removing and adding etc
  681. Sep 18 02:40:15 <Assad-Khan> Same here
  682. Sep 18 02:40:17 <Franco> <ShadowZ> am actually hosting/helping at some riots actually
  683. Sep 18 02:40:18 <ShadowZ> but ye am not forced
  684. Sep 18 02:40:21 <Franco> that is something any cb can do
  685. Sep 18 02:40:23 <Echoo> handling complaints, blacklist appeals
  686. Sep 18 02:40:24 <ShadowZ> i mean that's not an HCB thing
  687. Sep 18 02:40:27 <ShadowZ> ik
  688. Sep 18 02:40:30 <PapaGonzo> we just end up having management rights
  689. Sep 18 02:40:31 <Echoo> reviewing the team
  690. Sep 18 02:40:32 <Kirito> Anything new @Shadowz?
  691. Sep 18 02:40:34 <Assad-Khan> Today, I just hosted a riot with 35crim+
  692. Sep 18 02:40:39 <Assad-Khan> with diamond
  693. Sep 18 02:40:44 <Echoo> I can't think of anything that should be done rather than that
  694. Sep 18 02:40:46 <ShadowZ> nothing really more than checking CBs' progress
  695. Sep 18 02:40:49 <ShadowZ> making decisions
  696. Sep 18 02:40:51 <Dream> Tomorrow i have to wake up early, can i please go to bed and dream about tomorrow?
  697. Sep 18 02:40:53 <ShadowZ> promoting/demoting
  698. Sep 18 02:41:00 <Kirito> it's been a 3 days so far as I posted extention app, but I don't know why I posted it and for what...
  699. Sep 18 02:41:04 <ShadowZ> that's what we usually do
  700. Sep 18 02:41:05 <Kirito> since no body care to check it..
  701. Sep 18 02:41:06 <HeadBoss> You don't promote
  702. Sep 18 02:41:09 <HeadBoss> You don't demote
  703. Sep 18 02:41:16 <ShadowZ> kick?
  704. Sep 18 02:41:19 <Kirito> yes.
  705. Sep 18 02:41:20 <Richiniro> in my opinion the CB team just need some new faces
  706. Sep 18 02:41:20 <Kirito> please.
  707. Sep 18 02:41:20 <HeadBoss> You don't even kick
  708. Sep 18 02:41:27 <Richiniro> some new active crims that in charge
  709. Sep 18 02:41:34 <Kirito> Faces of potatos or what?
  710. Sep 18 02:41:37 <Richiniro> potatos
  711. Sep 18 02:41:46 <Richiniro> maybe jucie potatos
  712. Sep 18 02:41:51 <Richiniro> SHUT UP KIRITO hhahahaa
  713. Sep 18 02:41:53 <Franco> I just got an idea, not sure if you will like it or not but well.. how about just having 2 ranks, trial and criminal boss
  714. Sep 18 02:41:54 <ShadowZ> can i kick richi?
  715. Sep 18 02:42:04 <ShadowZ> mm
  716. Sep 18 02:42:06 <HeadBoss> like CEM? lol
  717. Sep 18 02:42:11 <Echoo> trial is not realistic
  718. Sep 18 02:42:11 <Kirito> exactly franco
  719. Sep 18 02:42:12 <ShadowZ> not bad
  720. Sep 18 02:42:13 <Echoo> trial + boss
  721. Sep 18 02:42:20 <HeadBoss> Not bad? it's not good
  722. Sep 18 02:42:25 <Richiniro> good idea
  723. Sep 18 02:42:26 <Echoo> I'd rather suggest CB and HCB
  724. Sep 18 02:42:27 <ShadowZ> was about to say that xD
  725. Sep 18 02:42:30 <ShadowZ> some might not agree
  726. Sep 18 02:42:30 <Echoo> same as in-game ranks
  727. Sep 18 02:42:38 <Assad-Khan> Two ranks??
  728. Sep 18 02:42:40 <Franco> and then having certain people (elected by the current criminal bosses) to review the activity of the criminal bosses an whatever you want to check
  729. Sep 18 02:42:42 <HeadBoss> Taling about ranks
  730. Sep 18 02:42:44 <Richiniro> i agree at least no more ranks whore
  731. Sep 18 02:42:44 <Assad-Khan> Who'll be HCB and who'll be CB
  732. Sep 18 02:42:49 <Franco> only for a certain time
  733. Sep 18 02:42:52 <Richiniro> who cares assad :fp:
  734. Sep 18 02:42:59 <HeadBoss> remove veteran rank
  735. Sep 18 02:43:00 <Richiniro> it's just a damn ranks man
  736. Sep 18 02:43:01 <Franco> like lets say elections
  737. Sep 18 02:43:02 <Assad-Khan> Richi?? Who cares ?? lOl
  738. Sep 18 02:43:06 <ShadowZ> and then changing these certain ppl withing time @Franc?
  739. Sep 18 02:43:07 <Richiniro> YES 55555555
  740. Sep 18 02:43:09 <Richiniro> a7a eh
  741. Sep 18 02:43:11 <Assad-Khan> It's related to the team lmao
  742. Sep 18 02:43:11 <HeadBoss> REMOVE VETERAN AND ECB RANKS
  743. Sep 18 02:43:17 <ShadowZ> well that actually look like a cool idea
  744. Sep 18 02:43:21 <Assad-Khan> hhh
  745. Sep 18 02:43:22 <HeadBoss> Keep it CB/AHCB/HCB
  746. Sep 18 02:43:33 <Kirito> no headboss
  747. Sep 18 02:43:37 <Kirito> only CB/HCB
  748. Sep 18 02:43:38 <HeadBoss> Y not
  749. Sep 18 02:43:42 <Richiniro> delete CB script that's the solution
  750. Sep 18 02:43:43 <Richiniro> HAHAHAA
  751. Sep 18 02:43:44 <EqiNox> Imo, trial cb - cb - ahcb - hcb
  752. Sep 18 02:43:44 <HeadBoss> Or maybe
  753. Sep 18 02:43:47 <Dream> only CB / HCB would be more good
  754. Sep 18 02:43:52 <HeadBoss> yeah
  755. Sep 18 02:43:57 <ShadowZ> richi :)
  756. Sep 18 02:43:58 <HeadBoss> no more draam about ranks
  757. Sep 18 02:43:58 <ShadowZ> shut up
  758. Sep 18 02:44:01 <Franco> HCB would not be a leader anymore
  759. Sep 18 02:44:02 <Assad-Khan> For a certain time Franco
  760. Sep 18 02:44:02 <HeadBoss> Inactive = kick
  761. Sep 18 02:44:05 <Franco> its just someone who checks the activity
  762. Sep 18 02:44:12 <ShadowZ> aaah got it
  763. Sep 18 02:44:15 <Dream> are we all here for the power which given by Criminal Boss ranks?
  764. Sep 18 02:44:16 <AlbusDumbledore> What about CBRs :S
  765. Sep 18 02:44:19 <ShadowZ> wait that's exactly the CEM system
  766. Sep 18 02:44:19 <HeadBoss> Yeah, who agreed on having 2 ranks??
  767. Sep 18 02:44:21 <Franco> if the activity is below the standars then the person needs to be warned or something
  768. Sep 18 02:44:24 <Richiniro> CB ~ HCB is a good idea
  769. Sep 18 02:44:31 <PapaGonzo> <AlbusDumbledore> What about CBRs :S
  770. Sep 18 02:44:31 <Assad-Khan> Albus, they become CB
  771. Sep 18 02:44:35 <Assad-Khan> They become CB
  772. Sep 18 02:44:46 <HeadBoss> Who agrees on having 2 ranks? CB and HCB??
  773. Sep 18 02:44:48 <Franco> any descision that needs to be made, can be made in the private board where every CB would have a word
  774. Sep 18 02:44:57 <Richiniro> franco, but who will take the decisions and the reviews?
  775. Sep 18 02:44:57 <Dream> i do agree
  776. Sep 18 02:44:59 <Richiniro> maybe a L5 staff
  777. Sep 18 02:45:01 <HeadBoss> I'm taking this seriously
  778. Sep 18 02:45:08 <ShadowZ> all of us in that case
  779. Sep 18 02:45:13 <ShadowZ> as it's a matter of teh WHOLE team
  780. Sep 18 02:45:16 <Richiniro> good idea maybe
  781. Sep 18 02:45:17 <ShadowZ> the*
  782. Sep 18 02:45:30 <Assad-Khan> OK vote for it
  783. Sep 18 02:45:34 <ShadowZ> i agree
  784. Sep 18 02:45:34 <Assad-Khan> I say yes
  785. Sep 18 02:45:34 <Dream> i am positive
  786. Sep 18 02:45:35 <Richiniro> but it can't be done so fast, i guess we need to think about the disadvantages
  787. Sep 18 02:45:37 <Franco> not sure if it would work
  788. Sep 18 02:45:39 <Franco> before you guys vote
  789. Sep 18 02:45:41 <Richiniro> guys don't just rush
  790. Sep 18 02:45:45 <Assad-Khan> Franco
  791. Sep 18 02:45:45 <Richiniro> the idea is good
  792. Sep 18 02:45:48 <Assad-Khan> Only one negative
  793. Sep 18 02:45:49 <Franco> I suggest you look deeper into it and how exactly would it work
  794. Sep 18 02:45:50 <Echoo> all of you are in a rush
  795. Sep 18 02:45:52 <Richiniro> but we don't know the disadvantage of it yet
  796. Sep 18 02:46:00 <Richiniro> yup we got the time
  797. Sep 18 02:46:20 <PapaGonzo> ok so let me see if i get the idea
  798. Sep 18 02:46:21 <Echoo> make a list of the suggested changes and any kind CB
  799. Sep 18 02:46:21 <HeadBoss> I surely disagree on this lol
  800. Sep 18 02:46:23 <ShadowZ> i can see it as a way that will make everyone actually do smth
  801. Sep 18 02:46:25 <ShadowZ> IG i mean
  802. Sep 18 02:46:26 <Echoo> may post it as a reminder in the chat
  803. Sep 18 02:46:28 <Kirito> Franco thanks for giving an idea. Echoo We should make an topic about this idea on Private CB board, so everyone should state it's opinion there.
  804. Sep 18 02:46:30 <Echoo> once we finish from discussing
  805. Sep 18 02:46:37 <ShadowZ> which is a positive point
  806. Sep 18 02:46:48 <HeadBoss> Who agrees on promoting Kirito to AHCB
  807. Sep 18 02:46:50 <Dream> Kirito it will take years to see the result
  808. Sep 18 02:46:56 <Kirito> No dream
  809. Sep 18 02:46:57 <Richiniro> or we can have 3 ranks like the state official
  810. Sep 18 02:47:08 <Dream> 3 ranks?
  811. Sep 18 02:47:10 <Dream> what are they
  812. Sep 18 02:47:16 <Richiniro> idk
  813. Sep 18 02:47:17 <Kirito> Echoo?
  814. Sep 18 02:47:20 <Richiniro> you name them lmao
  815. Sep 18 02:47:51 <Dream> inactive boss - criminal boss - head criminal boss
  816. Sep 18 02:47:55 <Assad-Khan> 3 ranks yeahh
  817. Sep 18 02:47:57 <Assad-Khan> Noo
  818. Sep 18 02:48:08 <Assad-Khan> Criminal Boss - AHCB - HCB
  819. Sep 18 02:48:13 <Assad-Khan> Just remove ECB
  820. Sep 18 02:48:19 <HeadBoss> no lol
  821. Sep 18 02:48:22 <HeadBoss> Just remove Veteran rank
  822. Sep 18 02:48:24 <HeadBoss> everything is good
  823. Sep 18 02:48:25 <Kirito> As we have absent people here, so we need a to make topic about this idea. Later on people can discuss there matter.
  824. Sep 18 02:48:27 <Assad-Khan> Why not
  825. Sep 18 02:48:33 <Franco> you could also improve the achievements system
  826. Sep 18 02:48:38 <Echoo> if you guys have noticed, we're only suggesting changes in the system that pays = contributions to the actual side
  827. Sep 18 02:48:49 <Echoo> if I'm a normal criminal, I give 0 attention to the actual CBs ranks
  828. Sep 18 02:48:49 <ShadowZ> i was thinking about the achievements system
  829. Sep 18 02:48:50 <Dream> like what franco
  830. Sep 18 02:48:51 <ShadowZ> but not for us
  831. Sep 18 02:48:53 <ShadowZ> for crims
  832. Sep 18 02:48:54 <Franco> that way people wont feel like if they are stuck in the same rank
  833. Sep 18 02:48:57 <Echoo> all crims don't know what are our ranks
  834. Sep 18 02:49:05 <ShadowZ> in a system that will actually make them feel that they're doing smth
  835. Sep 18 02:49:10 <Assad-Khan> Echoo, we need to improve the team before
  836. Sep 18 02:49:12 <ShadowZ> which will encourge them to do more
  837. Sep 18 02:49:16 <PapaGonzo> (gonna go smoke brb)
  838. Sep 18 02:49:22 <Echoo> improve?
  839. Sep 18 02:49:22 <Assad-Khan> Then we'll talk about the whole side
  840. Sep 18 02:49:33 <ShadowZ> what
  841. Sep 18 02:49:37 <Assad-Khan> Make changes, simply like we're doing now
  842. Sep 18 02:49:39 <Echoo> some ranks changes won't improve, it will only take some time and force us to get used to it
  843. Sep 18 02:49:44 <Echoo> it's actually a nice change and all but
  844. Sep 18 02:49:50 <Echoo> it's not on the top priority
  845. Sep 18 02:49:52 <HeadBoss> Changing ranks is not a solution
  846. Sep 18 02:50:16 <HeadBoss> Lets simply bring back old cb system (without hcbr)
  847. Sep 18 02:50:24 <HeadBoss> Be strict
  848. Sep 18 02:50:25 <Echoo> what is actually needed is the usage of the CB access in the actual game
  849. Sep 18 02:50:28 <Kirito> It's not a top priority to the side but it may change influence of our some mis-understanding?
  850. Sep 18 02:50:30 <Assad-Khan> Any ideao about CBs activty?? I only care about this
  851. Sep 18 02:50:30 <HeadBoss> Punish them
  852. Sep 18 02:50:39 <ShadowZ> "what is actually needed is the usage of the CB access in the actual game"
  853. Sep 18 02:50:48 <ShadowZ> isn't that what i just said?
  854. Sep 18 02:50:50 <ShadowZ> ._.
  855. Sep 18 02:50:55 <Echoo> didnt read
  856. Sep 18 02:50:57 <Kirito> -_-
  857. Sep 18 02:51:13 <ShadowZ> <Echoo> didnt read
  858. Sep 18 02:51:14 <ShadowZ> k ty
  859. Sep 18 02:51:17 <Echoo> ;p
  860. Sep 18 02:51:20 <Kirito> your welcome.
  861. Sep 18 02:51:37 <Dream> <Assad-Khan> Any ideao about CBs activty?? I only care about this
  862. Sep 18 02:51:46 <ShadowZ> JUST GIVE THEM A GOD DAMN THING WHICH THEY WANT
  863. Sep 18 02:51:48 <Dream> is this really needed?
  864. Sep 18 02:51:50 <ShadowZ> simple as that
  865. Sep 18 02:51:55 <ShadowZ> damn it..
  866. Sep 18 02:52:12 <ShadowZ> it might cost us a bit, but it will bring more ppl over time
  867. Sep 18 02:52:18 <ShadowZ> and then we can make it harder over time
  868. Sep 18 02:52:34 <ShadowZ> "achievements system"
  869. Sep 18 02:52:58 <Kirito> Before of achievements system, what about idea of Franco?
  870. Sep 18 02:53:03 <Echoo> I'd rather decide on the CB based on his interest, not on his activity
  871. Sep 18 02:53:05 * AlbusDumbledore has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
  872. Sep 18 02:53:13 <Assad-Khan> We need to discuss it with all the team Kirito
  873. Sep 18 02:53:14 <Echoo> he could be active as a player and all but pays 0 interest
  874. Sep 18 02:53:30 <ShadowZ> interest shows activity 0o?
  875. Sep 18 02:53:36 <ShadowZ> correct me if i am wrong
  876. Sep 18 02:53:36 <Echoo> he could be less active as a player but he is interested
  877. Sep 18 02:53:38 <Echoo> nope
  878. Sep 18 02:53:45 <Kirito> huh.
  879. Sep 18 02:53:46 <Echoo> I'm interested, but my activity is not that good
  880. Sep 18 02:53:46 <Dream> You are right echoo
  881. Sep 18 02:53:48 <Echoo> because of my life
  882. Sep 18 02:53:49 <ShadowZ> then he got bored
  883. Sep 18 02:53:49 <Dream> i am with you
  884. Sep 18 02:53:55 <ShadowZ> yes, but
  885. Sep 18 02:53:56 <ShadowZ> hm
  886. Sep 18 02:54:00 <Echoo> eqinox's activity used to drop
  887. Sep 18 02:54:03 <Echoo> but he's interested
  888. Sep 18 02:54:20 <ShadowZ> shall we remove the limit of inactivity?
  889. Sep 18 02:54:21 <HeadBoss> kick eqino
  890. Sep 18 02:54:22 <EqiNox> Plus, I increased it
  891. Sep 18 02:54:24 <Kirito> Indeed he's intrested to keep it..
  892. Sep 18 02:54:26 <Assad-Khan> How could you know if the player is interested or not without his activity Echoo
  893. Sep 18 02:54:28 <HeadBoss> No shadow
  894. Sep 18 02:54:35 <Echoo> it's obvious
  895. Sep 18 02:54:45 <ShadowZ> m3l4, how?
  896. Sep 18 02:54:54 <Echoo> if he opens the game and he pays attention to the CB rank he handles, then he's interested
  897. Sep 18 02:55:04 <Kirito> how you will know that?
  898. Sep 18 02:55:12 <Echoo> for example, back then, everyone used to complain about eqi and eqi only used to chat with CBs
  899. Sep 18 02:55:15 <Slammer> It is about activity not interest
  900. Sep 18 02:55:15 <Echoo> when he opens the game
  901. Sep 18 02:55:17 <Echoo> and on whatsapp
  902. Sep 18 02:55:21 <Echoo> that's interest
  903. Sep 18 02:55:22 <Kirito> in what's app?
  904. Sep 18 02:55:24 <Echoo> on having the rank
  905. Sep 18 02:55:25 <Slammer> If you do your duty properly then you are all good nothing more.
  906. Sep 18 02:55:27 <Assad-Khan> Most of us login and stay online for hours without even saying Hi
  907. Sep 18 02:55:38 <Kirito> since some people not interested to join what's app. How they will know?
  908. Sep 18 02:55:49 <Slammer> If you dont want to do your duty you are welcome to resign
  909. Sep 18 02:56:01 <Assad-Khan> We keep the CB for power, so there is no interest If i'm not wrong
  910. Sep 18 02:56:02 <ShadowZ> which gets back to the activity point
  911. Sep 18 02:56:06 <ShadowZ> either we keep it
  912. Sep 18 02:56:08 <ShadowZ> make it longer
  913. Sep 18 02:56:10 <ShadowZ> or simply
  914. Sep 18 02:56:12 <ShadowZ> remove it
  915. Sep 18 02:56:19 <HeadBoss> Ohh
  916. Sep 18 02:56:23 <HeadBoss> Useless topic
  917. Sep 18 02:56:34 <ShadowZ> as there is no way to check either if he was interested or not
  918. Sep 18 02:56:37 <Kirito> okay, then what's new Headboss?
  919. Sep 18 02:56:37 <Dream> i have to go guys, tomorrow my school starts
  920. Sep 18 02:56:41 <ShadowZ> HCB : hey, are u interested
  921. Sep 18 02:56:44 <Dream> good night everybody
  922. Sep 18 02:56:45 <ShadowZ> CB : oh ye ye ye
  923. Sep 18 02:56:51 <ShadowZ> and after 1 month
  924. Sep 18 02:56:53 <ShadowZ> 0 login
  925. Sep 18 02:56:54 <Dream> <ShadowZ> CB : oh ye ye ye
  926. Sep 18 02:56:56 <HeadBoss> I thought we'll have some decisions
  927. Sep 18 02:56:57 <Dream> LOL YOU MADE MY DAY
  928. Sep 18 02:56:58 <Kirito> that//
  929. Sep 18 02:57:04 <HeadBoss> but nothing changed since almost 2 hours
  930. Sep 18 02:57:13 <Kirito> oh ye ye ye? what?
  931. Sep 18 02:57:20 * Richiniro has quit (Read error)
  932. Sep 18 02:57:22 * Dream has quit (Quit: Leaving)
  933. Sep 18 02:57:28 <Kirito> ShadowZ bring changed.
  934. Sep 18 02:57:31 <Kirito> oh ye ye ye?
  935. Sep 18 02:57:31 <ShadowZ> i mean there gotta be smth to check if he was actully willing to work or not
  936. Sep 18 02:57:37 <ShadowZ> interested*
  937. Sep 18 02:57:42 <Slammer> It is logs
  938. Sep 18 02:57:48 <Echoo> name the inactive cbs
  939. Sep 18 02:57:52 <ShadowZ> logs won't shot anything
  940. Sep 18 02:57:53 <Kirito> Kirito.
  941. Sep 18 02:57:54 <Echoo> someone name them
  942. Sep 18 02:57:55 <ShadowZ> as there is no activity
  943. Sep 18 02:58:08 <ShadowZ> logs can't check ur interests, it shows activity
  944. Sep 18 02:58:10 <ShadowZ> a number
  945. Sep 18 02:58:15 <ShadowZ> not a will
  946. Sep 18 02:58:24 <Slammer> Logs can provude: logins, team chat hits, newbie warps, recovery misuse, amount of riots (cv blip usage), and much more
  947. Sep 18 02:58:27 <Echoo> none gave a name still
  948. Sep 18 02:58:37 <Slammer> So how is it possible that logs aren't going to prove?
  949. Sep 18 02:58:39 <Echoo> so none is inactive?
  950. Sep 18 02:58:42 <Kirito> I gave you, @Echo
  951. Sep 18 02:58:59 <Slammer> We aren't supposed to tell you
  952. Sep 18 02:59:00 <Echoo> ps: u cant name urself
  953. Sep 18 02:59:04 <Echoo> why not
  954. Sep 18 02:59:12 <Slammer> You lead the team you monitor us not we monitor each other's.
  955. Sep 18 02:59:15 <Echoo> we keep discussing about a pointless topic to be honest
  956. Sep 18 02:59:24 <Assad-Khan> Inactive in activities?
  957. Sep 18 02:59:29 <ShadowZ> just move on to the criminals point
  958. Sep 18 02:59:29 <Echoo> if we're paying that much attention to activity
  959. Sep 18 02:59:33 <Kirito> okay, Tad, Firebolt, afaik.
  960. Sep 18 02:59:34 <ShadowZ> that's we're supposed to discuss about
  961. Sep 18 02:59:36 <ShadowZ> without them
  962. Sep 18 02:59:38 <ShadowZ> we're DEAD
  963. Sep 18 02:59:39 <Echoo> then there must be a couple of inactive CBs
  964. Sep 18 02:59:40 <ShadowZ> NOTHING
  965. Sep 18 02:59:47 <Kirito> and yes Vuritch too
  966. Sep 18 03:00:14 <Assad-Khan> Vuritch requested his inactivity report
  967. Sep 18 03:00:17 <Assad-Khan> don't count him
  968. Sep 18 03:00:37 <Kirito> alright, then Tad and firebolt, maybe.
  969. Sep 18 03:00:55 <Kirito> SK#FireBolt#404 5 days ago mohand234111 /
  970. Sep 18 03:00:56 <Assad-Khan> For example yeah
  971. Sep 18 03:00:56 <Assad-Khan> Sovereign as well
  972. Sep 18 03:01:12 <Slammer> FireBolt is on vacation for 5 days
  973. Sep 18 03:01:18 <Assad-Khan> OK
  974. Sep 18 03:01:19 <ShadowZ> Tad and Neymar are VCBs, right?
  975. Sep 18 03:01:24 <Slammer> He is supposed to be back by tomorrow
  976. Sep 18 03:01:24 <Kirito> yes.
  977. Sep 18 03:01:26 <EqiNox> Y
  978. Sep 18 03:01:31 <Assad-Khan> VCB is not needed imo
  979. Sep 18 03:01:36 <Kirito> shadow, you can check here https://cit2.net/index.php?topic=117440.0
  980. Sep 18 03:01:41 <Assad-Khan> Would be better if we remove that rank
  981. Sep 18 03:01:44 <Echoo> then the only inactive one is sover
  982. Sep 18 03:01:47 <ShadowZ> i wasn't asking, ik that already
  983. Sep 18 03:01:55 <Kirito> No echoo
  984. Sep 18 03:02:03 <Kirito> let me check his last login
  985. Sep 18 03:02:03 <ShadowZ> can't we just talk about crims
  986. Sep 18 03:02:10 <ShadowZ> god..
  987. Sep 18 03:02:14 <Assad-Khan> There is no point to talk lol
  988. Sep 18 03:02:18 <HeadBoss> remove vcb
  989. Sep 18 03:02:21 <Slammer> I want to talk about the boot camp
  990. Sep 18 03:02:27 <Assad-Khan> Go ahead
  991. Sep 18 03:02:29 <ShadowZ> that's a thing actually
  992. Sep 18 03:02:33 <ShadowZ> which includes CRIMS
  993. Sep 18 03:02:42 <Slammer> Only Assad helped me with the project
  994. Sep 18 03:02:47 <ShadowZ> Criminal:They are our motivation. They are supporting us at cop killings, fighting like soldiers against the law, making us proud of them. Without them there would be no Criminal Activity in LS.
  995. Sep 18 03:02:50 <Slammer> Thus I will remove all trainers except him
  996. Sep 18 03:02:50 <HeadBoss> wat about tad w neymar
  997. Sep 18 03:02:58 <ShadowZ> and without them, there is nothing called CBs
  998. Sep 18 03:03:05 <ShadowZ> without crims*
  999. Sep 18 03:03:17 <Kirito> neymar was online 0 days ago probably yesterday
  1000. Sep 18 03:03:22 <Slammer> Is anyone here willing to support the project?
  1001. Sep 18 03:03:22 <Kirito> and soveringe was online 3 days ago..
  1002. Sep 18 03:03:30 <ShadowZ> i am already @slammer
  1003. Sep 18 03:03:37 <Kirito> So?
  1004. Sep 18 03:03:37 <Assad-Khan> I always support the BootCamp
  1005. Sep 18 03:03:39 <ShadowZ> maybe we can add some rewards to your system
  1006. Sep 18 03:03:43 <Kirito> -_-
  1007. Sep 18 03:03:48 <Kirito> ignore me, ok thanks.
  1008. Sep 18 03:03:50 <ShadowZ> that will motivate them even more
  1009. Sep 18 03:03:55 <Slammer> Like what
  1010. Sep 18 03:04:04 <ShadowZ> i am not, but u guys are talking about ranks over and over
  1011. Sep 18 03:04:05 <Slammer> I like the idea
  1012. Sep 18 03:04:08 <Assad-Khan> The bootcamp ShadowZ?
  1013. Sep 18 03:04:16 <ShadowZ> what about it?
  1014. Sep 18 03:04:17 <Echoo> sorry guys I have to go by now
  1015. Sep 18 03:04:19 <Assad-Khan> Yeah
  1016. Sep 18 03:04:22 <Kirito> go?
  1017. Sep 18 03:04:22 <Slammer> Bootcamp is very important
  1018. Sep 18 03:04:27 <Assad-Khan> Cya echoo
  1019. Sep 18 03:04:28 <Kirito> watch GOT?
  1020. Sep 18 03:04:28 <ShadowZ> cya echoo
  1021. Sep 18 03:04:31 <Echoo> cya
  1022. Sep 18 03:04:32 <Assad-Khan> Good idea
  1023. Sep 18 03:04:34 <Assad-Khan> shadow FTW
  1024. Sep 18 03:04:37 <Echoo> no will sleep
  1025. Sep 18 03:04:40 <Assad-Khan> But what would be the reward?
  1026. Sep 18 03:04:40 <Slammer> Already we have three graduates I think who became CBs
  1027. Sep 18 03:04:46 <Kirito> with whom?
  1028. Sep 18 03:04:55 <Assad-Khan> Assad-KhanBut what would be the reward?
  1029. Sep 18 03:04:59 <ShadowZ> honorable list which is made by CBs
  1030. Sep 18 03:05:01 <Echoo> mom
  1031. Sep 18 03:05:04 <ShadowZ> will include crims names
  1032. Sep 18 03:05:05 * Echoo has quit (Quit: Leaving)
  1033. Sep 18 03:05:14 <Kirito> okay.
  1034. Sep 18 03:05:18 <Slammer> Sure shadow
  1035. Sep 18 03:05:19 <ShadowZ> u know, those who are actually stood out at the crims world
  1036. Sep 18 03:05:20 <Kirito> Change the topic, so Headboss here?
  1037. Sep 18 03:05:29 <ShadowZ> and maybe some cash on it
  1038. Sep 18 03:05:32 <Assad-Khan> we're talking about the bootcamp
  1039. Sep 18 03:05:36 <HeadBoss> ? Kirito
  1040. Sep 18 03:05:42 <ShadowZ> that will make them rush to join/attend/host events
  1041. Sep 18 03:05:51 <Kirito> Since you are topic changer, so what
  1042. Sep 18 03:05:53 <Assad-Khan> reward with cash to bootcamp
  1043. Sep 18 03:05:54 <HeadBoss> What I want to talk is about promotions
  1044. Sep 18 03:05:55 <Kirito> the new one@ Headboss
  1045. Sep 18 03:05:57 <ShadowZ> ik that it's a bit nasty, but that's how it goes with nowadays crims
  1046. Sep 18 03:06:09 <Kirito> I know shadow.
  1047. Sep 18 03:06:15 <Assad-Khan> Active bootcamp players = future CBs
  1048. Sep 18 03:06:18 <EqiNox> Guys am going too. I will go to work after 5 hours, have to sleep.. From this line, please send me logs when you finish @shadow. I will check and give my opinions tomorrow
  1049. Sep 18 03:06:18 <Slammer> Anyways I trained 3 trainees (Scarface, albus, and mako)
  1050. Sep 18 03:06:23 <PapaGonzo> back
  1051. Sep 18 03:06:32 <ShadowZ> sure eqi
  1052. Sep 18 03:06:35 <ShadowZ> cya man
  1053. Sep 18 03:06:36 <HeadBoss> I changed few things
  1054. Sep 18 03:06:38 <PapaGonzo> Bootcamp now?
  1055. Sep 18 03:06:40 <HeadBoss> I will let you know now
  1056. Sep 18 03:06:43 <Assad-Khan> Yea
  1057. Sep 18 03:06:45 <EqiNox> Allright thanks, good nşght guys
  1058. Sep 18 03:06:47 <Kirito> gn
  1059. Sep 18 03:06:49 <HeadBoss> ONLY 1 year and half old Criminal Bosses are allowed to possess this rank. (HCB Rank)
  1060. Sep 18 03:06:53 <Assad-Khan> ew
  1061. Sep 18 03:06:56 <Assad-Khan> ranks again
  1062. Sep 18 03:07:04 <Assad-Khan> talk about the damn bootcamp
  1063. Sep 18 03:07:06 <Kirito> remove it @Headbos?
  1064. Sep 18 03:07:12 * EqiNox has quit (Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com ))
  1065. Sep 18 03:07:14 <HeadBoss> ONLY 8+ month old Criminal Bosses are allowed to posses this rank. And it's decided by votes among HCBs.
  1066. Sep 18 03:07:14 <HeadBoss> ONLY 8+ONLY 8+ month old Criminal Bosses are allowed to posses this rank. And it's decided by votes among HCBs.
  1067. Sep 18 03:07:14 <HeadBoss> ONLY 8+ month old Criminal Bosses are allowed to posses this rank. And it's decided by votes among HCBs.
  1068. Sep 18 03:07:14 <HeadBoss> ONLY 8+ month old Criminal Bosses are allowed to posses this rank. And it's decided by votes among HCBs.
  1069. Sep 18 03:07:14 <HeadBoss> It is about Hcb rnak
  1070. Sep 18 03:07:15 <Slammer> Okay so shadow
  1071. Sep 18 03:07:18 <Assad-Khan> Reward the active players
  1072. Sep 18 03:07:19 <HeadBoss> Sorry for spam
  1073. Sep 18 03:07:23 <HeadBoss> idk wht ahappened
  1074. Sep 18 03:07:23 <Assad-Khan> as ShadowZ said
  1075. Sep 18 03:07:33 <Slammer> You need to actively support the project if you want to be a trainer since I need all possible help
  1076. Sep 18 03:07:45 <Slammer> I am working on upgrading the project and I asked for your opinions here
  1077. Sep 18 03:07:47 <ShadowZ> i guess i am gonna take a part of that bootcamp
  1078. Sep 18 03:07:47 <Kirito> headboss bro, lets leave these ranks thing for now.
  1079. Sep 18 03:07:48 <HeadBoss> Imagine a CB getting promoted to HCB in 10 months of being added
  1080. Sep 18 03:07:58 <Slammer> https://cit2.net/index.php?topic=287327.0
  1081. Sep 18 03:08:03 <Slammer> Yet I got 0 help
  1082. Sep 18 03:08:03 <Assad-Khan> Slammer
  1083. Sep 18 03:08:04 <HeadBoss> HCB shouldn't be taken in a short period
  1084. Sep 18 03:08:08 <Assad-Khan> Who'll be the rainess
  1085. Sep 18 03:08:08 <ShadowZ> which wiil make criminals feels that even CBs leadership are involved and it's not just a random topic
  1086. Sep 18 03:08:10 <HeadBoss> Same for AHCB
  1087. Sep 18 03:08:11 <Assad-Khan> Trainess
  1088. Sep 18 03:08:15 <ShadowZ> not like being a trial
  1089. Sep 18 03:08:17 <ShadowZ> like uhm
  1090. Sep 18 03:08:19 <ShadowZ> tranining
  1091. Sep 18 03:08:32 <ShadowZ> hosting a riot with them
  1092. Sep 18 03:08:34 <ShadowZ> u know
  1093. Sep 18 03:08:44 <ShadowZ> that will actually motivate them even more
  1094. Sep 18 03:08:52 <ShadowZ> think about it as a criminal
  1095. Sep 18 03:08:59 <HeadBoss> PapaGonzo
  1096. Sep 18 03:09:00 <Kirito> Alright let me state something about training.
  1097. Sep 18 03:09:05 <ShadowZ> sure
  1098. Sep 18 03:09:09 <HeadBoss> Do you have something to talk about?
  1099. Sep 18 03:09:10 <PapaGonzo> yo?
  1100. Sep 18 03:09:14 <HeadBoss> Since you started this meeting
  1101. Sep 18 03:09:15 <Slammer> The bootcamp is succesful I have been managing it perfectly until I went inactive 3 days
  1102. Sep 18 03:09:16 <Slammer> Ago
  1103. Sep 18 03:09:25 * Assad-Khan has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
  1104. Sep 18 03:09:30 <Slammer> But no one is giving me a hand
  1105. Sep 18 03:09:39 <Kirito> Training: In the training we have to make a riot for at least 30 minutes. In which who ever kills more will get some rewards. Like 1st, 2nd, 3rd places.
  1106. Sep 18 03:09:42 <Slammer> Can you guys discuss one topic only?
  1107. Sep 18 03:09:44 <PapaGonzo> I wanted to talk about the HCB's having way too much in their hands but that was solved with agreeing that AHCB's would be counted on from now on right?
  1108. Sep 18 03:10:00 <Kirito> In this way criminal will be redirect to join training @Shadowz.
  1109. Sep 18 03:10:33 <Slammer> I don't want anyone in the bootcamp who isn't willing to work
  1110. Sep 18 03:10:34 <HeadBoss> Maybe
  1111. Sep 18 03:10:47 <Slammer> Because training criminals isn't easy especially players who need lots of improvements
  1112. Sep 18 03:10:47 <HeadBoss> So nothing else to talk about? shall I go?
  1113. Sep 18 03:10:57 <ShadowZ> that's exactly what i mean
  1114. Sep 18 03:10:58 <Slammer> I am talking about the bootcamp....
  1115. Sep 18 03:11:00 <PapaGonzo> we talking about the bootcamp now headboss
  1116. Sep 18 03:11:14 <ShadowZ> and they will even rush to beat each other to reach the 1st 2nd.. etc
  1117. Sep 18 03:11:20 <Kirito> yeah
  1118. Sep 18 03:11:22 <HeadBoss> Okey okey
  1119. Sep 18 03:11:24 <Kirito> exactly shadow.
  1120. Sep 18 03:11:28 <HeadBoss> I'm tired, good night
  1121. Sep 18 03:11:36 <PapaGonzo> cya headboss
  1122. Sep 18 03:11:40 <Slammer> Currently I made 2 detailed tasks to train them on important skills
  1123. Sep 18 03:11:48 * HeadBoss has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
  1124. Sep 18 03:11:57 <Kirito> good job.
  1125. Sep 18 03:12:02 <Slammer> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Ju0YDv1v
  1126. Sep 18 03:12:07 <PapaGonzo> so u mean that bootcamp members will get "graded" according to their performance and as such rewarded accordingly?
  1127. Sep 18 03:12:11 <Slammer> Task 1 - (Task managers:
  1128. Sep 18 03:12:11 <Slammer> Important element, team work.
  1129. Sep 18 03:12:11 <Slammer> The players who will participate at task one will need to host 4 approved riots together one at least after each 2 days, the riot must be well coordinated and fun.
  1130. Sep 18 03:12:11 <Slammer> Each participant at this task will have to help leading the riot with his own way, but at the same time work with his mate.
  1131. Sep 18 03:12:11 <Slammer> Task 2 - (Task managers:
  1132. Sep 18 03:12:11 <Slammer> Criminal Participation and Contributions.
  1133. Sep 18 03:12:11 <Slammer> The player given this task will need to support criminals by suggesting at least 4 creative ideas (first to be discussed here) in order to support and contribute to the criminals side.
  1134. Sep 18 03:12:32 * Assad-Khan (Assad-Khan@DD7BB480.AD3BACF9.C2863082.IP) has joined
  1135. Sep 18 03:12:34 <Slammer> The only reward there is graduating
  1136. Sep 18 03:12:44 <Slammer> Did anyone read my tasks?
  1137. Sep 18 03:12:48 <Assad-Khan> no
  1138. Sep 18 03:12:58 <Slammer> I posted them 2 months ago on our private board
  1139. Sep 18 03:13:03 <Assad-Khan> There was no improvment today lol
  1140. Sep 18 03:13:03 <Kirito> Graduating, is this Study going on?
  1141. Sep 18 03:13:15 <Assad-Khan> Anyway
  1142. Sep 18 03:13:33 <Slammer> Yes it is improving criminals negative sides into becoming good leadrrs
  1143. Sep 18 03:13:41 <Kirito> cool
  1144. Sep 18 03:13:56 <Assad-Khan> Good night guys
  1145. Sep 18 03:13:59 <Kirito> gn
  1146. Sep 18 03:14:03 <Slammer> By teaching them how to work as a team, contribute to the criminals side, good behavior... Etc.
  1147. Sep 18 03:14:10 <Assad-Khan> Keep me notified with all your improvments
  1148. Sep 18 03:14:19 <PapaGonzo> well assad i tried to get everyone to talk about issues
  1149. Sep 18 03:14:21 * Assad-Khan has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
  1150. Sep 18 03:14:25 <PapaGonzo> i tried
  1151. Sep 18 03:14:36 <PapaGonzo> anyway slammer yea i am aware of the tasks
  1152. Sep 18 03:14:38 <Slammer> If you want to know issues papa then
  1153. Sep 18 03:15:34 <Kirito> anyway shadowZ, you there or sleeping?
  1154. Sep 18 03:15:38 <Slammer> The issue is that we decided to vote on providing logs to evaluate, but when the yes outnumbered the no the topic was skipped as if it was never discussed and I am sure it will never get implemented even though 5 voted yes
  1155. Sep 18 03:15:46 <Slammer> And only 3 or 2 voted no
  1156. Sep 18 03:16:09 <Kirito> ignore that, no one want that ever again.
  1157. Sep 18 03:16:28 <Slammer> But apparently 5 wants it
  1158. Sep 18 03:16:39 <Slammer> Which is something that can't be ignored and won't be ignored
  1159. Sep 18 03:18:08 <Slammer> Everytime we said check logs came tried to say hey logs what? Abuse? Well staff gets banned for abuse... Then some said we play for fun only... Then you should resign and leave it to players who are willing to play for entertaining and leading criminals side I guess, right?
  1160. Sep 18 03:18:21 <Slammer> Tell me your opinion on that matter @PapaGonzo
  1161. Sep 18 03:18:56 <PapaGonzo> I already stated my opinion on the logs, my opinion is mine and i would never try to translate it into a generalized on or to make it stand above the rest
  1162. Sep 18 03:19:06 <PapaGonzo> i didn't skip it or anything
  1163. Sep 18 03:19:11 <Slammer> Not you
  1164. Sep 18 03:19:18 <Slammer> You said your own opinion
  1165. Sep 18 03:19:35 <Slammer> Nothing is wrong at all ofcourse
  1166. Sep 18 03:19:52 <PapaGonzo> I think a midle ground is far more interesting
  1167. Sep 18 03:20:01 <Slammer> I see
  1168. Sep 18 03:20:26 <PapaGonzo> middle grounds between 2 ideas are always far more interesting
  1169. Sep 18 03:20:39 <PapaGonzo> tends to bring some concordance to both sides
  1170. Sep 18 03:20:48 <PapaGonzo> even if one side is outnumbered in a vote
  1171. Sep 18 03:21:23 <Slammer> Your point of view seems satisfying too
  1172. Sep 18 03:21:27 * Shanu47 (Shanu47@CE5C4726.A8F39D5A.67AA0DF8.IP) has joined
  1173. Sep 18 03:21:41 <Kirito> welcome ..
  1174. Sep 18 03:21:52 <Shanu47> ty kirito
  1175. Sep 18 03:21:56 <PapaGonzo> hi shanu
  1176. Sep 18 03:22:05 <Shanu47> hi
  1177. Sep 18 03:22:22 <Kirito> shanu you are to early, meeting will start in 69 seconds, so tight your belt.
  1178. Sep 18 03:22:28 <Slammer> Anyways someone will need to manage bootcamp
  1179. Sep 18 03:22:34 <Slammer> As I am inactive for 2 weeks
  1180. Sep 18 03:23:15 <Shanu47> And i thought i missed it, cause the meeting started at 2/1 AM
  1181. Sep 18 03:23:30 <Shanu47> I thought * meeting will start*
  1182. Sep 18 03:23:46 <PapaGonzo> Slammer anyone in mind?
  1183. Sep 18 03:24:12 * Shanu47 (Shanu47@CE5C4726.A8F39D5A.67AA0DF8.IP) has left
  1184. Sep 18 03:24:19 <Slammer> Assad if he agrees
  1185. Sep 18 03:24:25 <Slammer> Or any AHCB
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