Xari zegt (21:05):
 did you say something
 i crashed
Erik zegt (21:09):
 nope
Xari zegt (21:10):
 okay
 keep me up to date with what mortis says
 It's fucking retarded that "faction groups" wouldn't be allowed due to no control.. So if we made a guild cult of the damned we would be eligible? jesus christ
Erik zegt (21:11):
 too long to repeat, but regarding the CotD, he basicly suggests we simply merge with the population instead. And if we wish uniforms, etc. just use smiths.
Xari zegt (21:12):
 sigh...
 another phase of
 making due with dumb
Erik zegt (21:13):
 Which nobody would mind, the only problem you see is others who do get more features.
Xari zegt (21:13):
 It's extra work for us
 So I do mind
Xari zegt (21:14):
 So I guess it's a "Fuck you" to our own forum section too then?
Erik zegt (21:15):
 No clue, not discussed that yet.. nobody has gotten such a section yet, but I don't know if it's still in place yet.
Xari zegt (21:16):
 uhm yeah they have
 the 6 guilds of CH??
Erik zegt (21:16):
 I ment any guild or group during this phase. Or private forums.
Xari zegt (21:17):
 And where will we put our topic?
 Recruitment thread?
 Etc?
Erik zegt (21:18):
 That's probably staying the same. Or we can do it all purely in-game.
 Not the iniation kind of way.. but only let people in when they approach us.
Xari zegt (21:19):
 How will they even know we're around
 on an OOC level
Erik zegt (21:19):
 Dude, we;'ve build up one big reputation.
 As the ONLY proper group.. and the only antagonist group.
Xari zegt (21:19):
 I don't get the vibe the STAFF appreciates all too much for that.
 appreciates us*
Erik zegt (21:20):
 Try Mortis He goes about all those mechanics, etc.
Xari zegt (21:20):
 what with getting the middle finger and a "Do everything on your own" again.
Erik zegt (21:20):
 The staff atm has appreciated us a ton, they're all supporting us.. have been doing a shitton of events and decoration for us..
Xari zegt (21:21):
 But we can't get the simple word of
 "Yes, you're the representation of a faction."
Erik zegt (21:21):
 with the excuse of it being for events.. but they truly just want to RP with us as the only decent evil RPers
 True. But well.. we don't need it
 as long as they dont bitch at us
Xari zegt (21:22):
 Yeah. So it's once again stiffling bureaucracy and some inactive, incompetent angsty kid who pathetically holds onto his scraps of power at the top that is holding me back.
 This reminds me painfully of previous experiences...
Xari zegt (21:23):
 What does Mortis do anyway, except for post in the minecraft thread and whitelist people once in a week?
Xari zegt (21:27):
 That's a genuine question btw.
Erik zegt (21:28):
 Then ask him. Not me.. I only know he has a diving suit and does more than that, but I have no clue how much of it he delegates or does himself.
 Ayarei does a SHITLOAD aswell.
Xari zegt (21:28):
 Ayarei I can understand.
 But Mortis comes over to me like the "Operator" of this community
 Operator is this one guy from a previous RP community I was at..
Xari zegt (21:29):
 He was the definition of what I hate about roleplay communities.
 He had invested so much time and garnered so much "power" and ties with people, that he would absolutely refuse to ever let go of the reins he held.
Erik zegt (21:29):
 Mortis is an alright guy, but too focused on mechanics.. not on powers though.
 He's not powerhungry, but he's actually a bit too focused on systems.
Xari zegt (21:30):
 He was stagnant, formed cliques, declined ban appeals and organization requests for as little reason as not liking the one proposing the ideas, etc.
 So what am I supposed to do with the notion of
 "There will never be faction groups"
 We're forced to become a guild if we ever want faction status then?
Erik zegt (21:30):
 Currently, there won't be any playermade factionthings. Not next phase.
Xari zegt (21:31):
 "playermade"
 like the Cult wouldn't exist in Northrend..
 Pfff..
 If anything they should have included it at the base of CH, only makes sense?
Erik zegt (21:31):
 dude, we're fcking acknowledge by everyone anyway.
Xari zegt (21:31):
 Yeah so why does this one cunt get the right to NOT declare us a faction.
Erik zegt (21:31):
 We're just not a preset guild. Or will be.
Xari zegt (21:31):
 That's what pisses me off.
Erik zegt (21:32):
 He didnt ignore us either.
 He even slipped he might want to at one point arrange somekind of vendor.
Xari zegt (21:32):
 Whatever. I'll get started on that external website then, and give this a shot.
Xari zegt (21:33):
 We can have a section for applications there, which guests cannot see but members can.
 Registrations will have to be manually approved
Erik zegt (21:33):
 yeah, a royal bitch.
Xari zegt (21:33):
 I have an old friend from a different roleplay project with XHTML & CSS knowledge
 who's expressed interest in helping us
 with the theme
Erik zegt (21:33):
 I'm inclined to just go "Fuck it" and make it an unofficial purely IC thing. Like personal RP between us which we allow others to take part in?
Xari zegt (21:34):
 It's funny tbh. I've gotten SO many people, all much better than subpar roleplayers (except Xareth maybe) to Prologue
 And still I'm here struggling with just getting a concept properly accepted
Erik zegt (21:34):
 Yeah.. let's not mention Xareth.. >.>  getting a bit annoyed at Meyla to.
 But she probly wont join us in CH anyhow
Xari zegt (21:34):
 Meyla isn't someone I brought.
Erik zegt (21:35):
 I know
Xari zegt (21:35):
 Symmetry and Locust are gonna hate hearing this news btw
Erik zegt (21:35):
 what news?
Xari zegt (21:35):
 That we're not getting any sort of official faction support in CH either, afterall.
Erik zegt (21:36):
 Nobody ever said we would.
 >.<
Xari zegt (21:36):
 CHALET did, and aornar hinted at it.
 Ofcourse aornar decided to conveniently go inactive during CH's planning again.
Erik zegt (21:36):
 ..yeah, Chalet is also known to go "fuck the rules" and make a lot of unofficial statements which arent always true.
Xari zegt (21:36):
 And he's completely justified
Xari zegt (21:37):
 Prologue's rules serve no purpose but to clog everything up and choke roleplay
Erik zegt (21:37):
 ...and he's making false statements which now result into you and some others believing we were actually promised somekind of special treatment.
Xari zegt (21:37):
 It's not special treatment
 lol
Erik zegt (21:37):
 God, wake up..
Erik zegt (21:38):
 Name me another group who has been promised such a thing by a ST without any official statement or system in place.
 Special treatment. Unofficial statement. False promise.
Xari zegt (21:38):
 That's an invalid statement, we are the only decently done group on Prologue.
Erik zegt (21:38):
 If it was ever a promise or solid fact to begin with.
Xari zegt (21:38):
 So there are, literally, no other groups.
Erik zegt (21:38):
 Guild then.
Xari zegt (21:38):
 Uh, let's see
Erik zegt (21:38):
 Person? Whatever.
Erik zegt (21:39):
 There was also the Na Gadi thingy
Xari zegt (21:39):
 Oakshire, Darkshire, Ratchet, Silvermoon?
Erik zegt (21:39):
 Which were decent, although far less publicly known.
Xari zegt (21:39):
 Na Gadi is a minge group lol
 The guy who made that dumb retaurant in hillsbrad
 was in it
Erik zegt (21:39):
 No group or guild or individual has been promised SHIT.. nor does or did Chalet ever have the official permission to make such statements.. get it into your nogging and stop believing everything Chalet says.
Erik zegt (21:40):
 He's a good ST, at times, but he's also the first to bluntly state things without overthinking them or leaving people assuming shakey promises to be facts.
 or shakey "I'll look into it" things to be solid promises, rather
Erik zegt (21:42):
 P.S. It is likely that CH is to hit within a week, I am lead to assume so.. perhaps a few days even.
 But you didn't hear it from me.. nor is it an official thing. But a very strong hinting assumption.
Erik zegt (21:43):
 (I think Mortis said something about "wait a few days" at one point during our convo.   )
Xari zegt (21:43):
 can you just ask him
 if we can be considered
 the official representation of the Cult of the Damned
 I want atleast one piece of good news
 today