(5:20:44 AM) Mandozer: hey
(5:20:46 AM) Mandozer: on incursions
(5:20:50 AM) Mandozer: are you in any shield superjew channels
(5:20:59 AM) Mandozer: cause im in on one for legion armor fleets but site shortage
(5:21:06 AM) Mandozer: i can do logi though and probably pay for my own ship
(5:25:27 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: i'm in a couple channels that require an approval process
(5:25:35 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: and another couple that do not
(5:26:57 AM) Mandozer: yeah
(5:27:11 AM) Mandozer: i was gonna start out as a logi pilot
(5:27:17 AM) Mandozer: and then upgrade to a nightmare
(5:27:35 AM) Mandozer: but i want to be in whichever channel gets me linked up with competent bros for high isk per hour
(5:27:41 AM) Mandozer: trying to get a titan
(5:30:05 AM) Mandozer: so ya: was hoping you could help with that
(5:30:44 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: uh
(5:31:04 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: the trick is to get in with different groups
(5:31:13 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: so when one isnt running a fleet
(5:31:21 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: you still have options
(5:31:27 AM) Mandozer: yeah
(5:31:30 AM) Mandozer: this is why im coming to you
(5:31:39 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: thing is
(5:31:46 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: i can vouch you all to hell and back
(5:31:48 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: but
(5:32:09 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: you actually need to show these ppl that you can compentely fly your ships
(5:32:17 AM) Mandozer: p sure
(5:32:22 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: also
(5:32:32 AM) Mandozer: I've done incursions before
(5:32:37 AM) Mandozer: p sure i've yet to die in them or fuck it up
(5:32:42 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: if you annoy these ppl or troll them, they probably will tell you to go fuck yourself
(5:32:46 AM) Mandozer: yeah
(5:32:49 AM) Mandozer: im here to make my money and leave
(5:32:52 AM) Mandozer: i dont even want to know their names
(5:33:40 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: BTL Pub is where you'll start getting into the other groups
(5:33:59 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: as these groups will recruit from btl if they really really need ppl
(5:34:20 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: but you need the patience to build up the trust and rapport of these ppl
(5:34:25 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: so it will take some time
(5:34:36 AM) Mandozer: no i need you to vouch me into a group and then let me make 200m per hour
(5:34:47 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: i dont know you that well hun
(5:35:15 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: and if i vouch you, and you screw up or screw over these ppl, i get burned to
(5:35:16 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: so
(5:35:25 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: it's not something i give lightly
(5:35:29 AM) Mandozer: (5:32:49 AM) Mandozer: im here to make my money and leave
(5:32:52 AM) Mandozer: i dont even want to know their names
(5:35:41 AM) Mandozer: (5:32:09 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: you actually need to show these ppl that you can compentely fly your ships
(5:35:59 AM) Mandozer: If I can ditch gatecamps over 150 jumps and handle myself in black legion fleets
(5:36:04 AM) Mandozer: I can survive the sansha menace also
(5:36:08 AM) Mandozer: (5:32:32 AM) Mandozer: I've done incursions before
(5:32:37 AM) Mandozer: p sure i've yet to die in them or fuck it up
(5:36:11 AM) Mandozer: also restating
(5:36:12 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: not the point
(5:36:16 AM) Mandozer: (5:32:49 AM) Mandozer: im here to make my money and leave
(5:32:52 AM) Mandozer: i dont even want to know their names
(5:36:20 AM) Mandozer: what more do you want me to tell you?
(5:36:47 AM) Mandozer: Like: You are acting like this is some big thing and its not
(5:36:59 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: this is how i make my isk
(5:37:01 AM) Mandozer: its as easy as follow instructions and broadcast
(5:37:02 AM) Mandozer: yeah
(5:37:04 AM) Mandozer: and im not gonna fuck it up
(5:37:12 AM) Mandozer: because its how im gonna make my isk
(5:37:17 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: so if you get me burned and then banned....
(5:37:19 AM) Mandozer: have a little faith and stop acting like you are guarding nuclear secrets
(5:37:26 AM) Mandozer: Bro if I wanted to get you banned I'd buy isk
(5:37:33 AM) Mandozer: donate a bit to you for a ship then report you
(5:37:34 AM) Mandozer: calm down
(5:38:02 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: i'll think about it
(5:38:05 AM) Mandozer: I'm just saying, let me stick my hand in that cookie jar too
(5:38:06 AM) Mandozer: ok
(5:38:13 AM) Mandozer: w/e
(5:38:17 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: word of advice, do not force me to do anything
(5:39:15 AM) Mandozer: Am I supposed to magically helicopter dick over the pacific to the land of hte rising sun then force your fingertips to punch the keys that say: "Let isk spout from the tip of your nightmare shaped cock into mandozers mouth"
(5:41:06 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: look
(5:41:13 AM) Mandozer: hey
(5:41:15 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: i've been doing these for almost a year
(5:41:27 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: i've busted my ass to get where i am now
(5:41:38 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: and i'll be damned if 1 person screws it up
(5:41:47 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: so yes, i'm going to be a bit wary
(5:42:20 AM) Mandozer: It took you a year it took me 5 minutes and I've yet to call someone a nigger in my incursion group.
(5:42:24 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: but after the drama and other crap i've had to deal with as an incursion fc before i stepped down, i'm just tired
(5:42:25 AM) Mandozer: If that gets me props
(5:42:43 AM) Mandozer: Like honestly: If you don't want to do it
(5:42:53 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: i'd said i think about it
(5:43:11 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: but your mannerisms are my biggest stall point here
(5:43:15 AM) Mandozer: Hey
(5:43:50 AM) Mandozer: I want to state for the record: If I'm trolling the hell out of you in this convo. Its because I absolutely cannot respect your point of view due to the subject at hand which in my one year of special forces incursion running, is the easiest gig I've ever done in EVE>
(5:44:16 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: you werent an hq and assault fc hon
(5:44:19 AM) Mandozer: Ok
(5:44:28 AM) Mandozer: P sure the money isn't in HQs and assaults
(5:44:30 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: vgs are cake
(5:44:35 AM) Mandozer: also
(5:44:46 AM) Mandozer: sorry I'm only a PVP FC
(5:44:53 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: sometimes the money is cause none of the 'superjew' groups have fleets up
(5:47:11 AM) Mandozer: hey
(5:47:25 AM) Mandozer: im sorry that you spent so much time with autistic fucking nerds
(5:47:42 AM) Mandozer: as an elite hq and assault FC really i do, because nerds bickering is the worst
(5:48:07 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: it's not that i'm elite
(5:48:10 AM) Mandozer: I've never bothered with the incursion fleet until recently because: I PVPed my ass off instead and scammed the occasional nerd for my money
(5:48:16 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: trust me, i dont thnk i'm that great
(5:48:21 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: however, these ppl trust me
(5:48:29 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: trust their ships in my care as a logi
(5:48:33 AM) Mandozer: No its because you bust your ass off for a year and you are scared I'm going to bring your house of cards down in a screeching burst of niggerdom
(5:48:46 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: do you blame me?
(5:48:50 AM) Mandozer: 100%
(5:49:01 AM) Mandozer: because the fear is unfounded
(5:49:10 AM) Mandozer: and the justification is hilarious
(5:49:41 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: do you hear yourself on comms sometimes?????
(5:49:52 AM) Mandozer: What part of
(5:50:17 AM) Mandozer: "I'm just here to make isk" did you not get
(5:50:54 AM) Mandozer: Are you seriously going to hold my trolling against me in a PVE venture.
(5:51:28 AM) Mandozer: I could be calling this bulgarian guy a peasant and troll his accent right now
(5:51:34 AM) Mandozer: but I'm not because there is no reason to
(5:51:47 AM) Mandozer: There is always a reason to troll racist ignorant chols
(5:54:11 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: there is a time and place for everything, and sometimes your timing is a tad bad
(5:56:06 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: ok, do me a favor then
(5:56:49 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: join "The Vahalla Project", run in a few of those fleets and if you dont get banned in two to three weeks i will vouch you for SSN
(5:57:16 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: these are assault and hq fleets, which require more patience and will be harder for you to behave in
(5:57:33 AM) Mandozer: Fuck you dana
 (5:57:44 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: ?
(5:57:59 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: i started in hq and assaults
(5:58:19 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: and will get you known in the incursion community faster then vgs
(6:04:27 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: also, the superjews dont run 24/7
(6:04:42 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: there are plenty of days where i had to go into an hq or assualt fleet
(6:09:00 AM) Mandozer: I'm vexed right now. I've been vexed this whole conversation, because you seriously told me, first I need to prove i can even fly a ship to run in your elite pvp circle. Then, two-three weeks and prove I'm not banned like I have tourettes. I just like, this is mindboggling to me as a pvper. The only way I can fuck up your fleet is if I was a logi and didn't rep people or ganked incursioners. I'm not on any of those ban lists for a reason because I'm not trying to fuck up access to a good thing.
(6:09:32 AM) Mandozer: The only way I'm getting banned is if I'm blatantly insulting for no reason. My method has a madness, there is no end to justify this means.
(6:09:45 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: yes, but there will be time where the superjews are not running, and you need to find another fleet
(6:09:49 AM) Mandozer: Yeah
(6:09:51 AM) Mandozer: I know
(6:09:58 AM) Mandozer: I have no problem getting into other fleets
(6:09:59 AM) Mandozer: or
(6:10:01 AM) Mandozer: perhaps going outside
(6:10:06 AM) Mandozer: and smoking a massive blunt
(6:10:11 AM) Mandozer: or working out
(6:10:24 AM) Mandozer: or trying to get a job or any of those various activities
(6:10:36 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: and there will be times EVEN a vg fleet has downtime
(6:10:38 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: trust me
(6:11:00 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: so you need the patience garnered from hq and assault experience to not blow your brains out
(6:11:16 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: because if there is one thing that hqs and assault teach is patience
(6:11:19 AM) Mandozer: Dana
(6:11:23 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: yes?
(6:11:32 AM) Mandozer: Can I rephrase my goals real quick
(6:11:38 AM) Mandozer: then maybe you'll get what i'm trying to do
(6:11:46 AM) Mandozer: I'm trying to spend 3 out of 7 days of the week
(6:11:51 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: yes yes, make boco isk to buy a titan
(6:11:51 AM) Mandozer: doing incursions for two-four weeks
(6:11:56 AM) Mandozer: to make a couple of billion
(6:12:01 AM) Mandozer: which will then be used to trade
(6:12:01 AM) Mandozer: scam
(6:12:04 AM) Mandozer: and otherwise
(6:12:09 AM) Mandozer: multiply that money
(6:12:10 AM) Mandozer: to buy a titan
(6:12:14 AM) Mandozer: Within 90 days
(6:12:18 AM) Mandozer: So I need like
(6:12:20 AM) Mandozer: 10 bil ASAP
(6:12:27 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: why?
(6:12:33 AM) Mandozer: Market manipulation
(6:12:37 AM) Mandozer: Incursions is also
(6:12:39 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: why do you need a titan so fucking bad?
(6:12:43 AM) Mandozer: a easy way for me to replace pvp losses
(6:12:49 AM) Mandozer: Because I want to be the guy bridging
(6:13:14 AM) Mandozer: and occasionally dropping into a brawl and owning mad dudes
(6:13:26 AM) Mandozer: I mean
(6:13:47 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: i'm not funding your scam empire
(6:13:51 AM) Mandozer: I didn't ask you why you are a spergy shield fleet nerd I just made fun of you for it so laugh at my soon to be nerfed space penis held together with ducttape
(6:13:53 AM) Mandozer: soz m8
(6:14:09 AM) Mandozer: You aren't, people who want to buy aeons will
(6:16:45 AM) Mandozer: Also your statement is highly inaccurate
(6:16:48 AM) Mandozer:  you aren't funding shit I am
(6:17:18 AM) Mandozer: but tbqh: whoever the fuck you are rolling with I probably dont wanna be with cause judging by how you treated this
(6:18:02 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: and you do realize i'm not the only person in corp that runs with these ppl
(6:18:06 AM) Mandozer: Yeah I know
(6:18:08 AM) Mandozer: or in eve
(6:18:11 AM) Mandozer: I'll be talking to them
(6:18:24 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: look do
(6:18:27 AM) Mandozer: Look
(6:18:29 AM) Mandozer: literally
(6:18:38 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: everything i've done in eve i have done with honesty
(6:18:45 AM) Mandozer: Ok
(6:18:49 AM) Mandozer: my name is mandozerthegreat
(6:18:54 AM) Mandozer: somethingawful forum goon as of 2007
(6:18:57 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: and vouching you so can make isk for your scam empire doesnt sit well of me
(6:19:01 AM) Mandozer: I'm sorry
(6:19:02 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: *with me
(6:19:05 AM) Mandozer: What scam empire
(6:19:13 AM) Mandozer: P sure incursion isk
(6:19:17 AM) Mandozer: won't be funding a scam empire
(6:19:26 AM) Mandozer: You sure are a conspiracy nerd itc
(6:19:40 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: you said you needed to make a few bil to then use in market games or whatever
(6:19:41 AM) Mandozer: I believe in diversity and the end justifies the means
(6:19:43 AM) Mandozer: Yeah
(6:19:45 AM) Mandozer: Thats not scamming
(6:19:46 AM) Mandozer: thats calling
(6:19:51 AM) Mandozer: Fixing the crystal market
(6:20:00 AM) Mandozer: If you a transformer dana
(6:20:03 AM) Mandozer: you would be a short bus
(6:20:10 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: riiight
(6:20:18 AM) bl-chat@conference.black-legion.ca/Dana Kait: just because i dont trust you or your motives
(6:20:22 AM) Mandozer: Scamming=me fake selling aeons
(6:20:23 AM) Mandozer: Yeah
(6:20:27 AM) Mandozer: Here's the thing
(6:20:29 AM) Mandozer: my motives beyond
(6:20:33 AM) Mandozer: not calling your friends niggers
(6:20:41 AM) Mandozer: or being annoying on comms
(6:20:47 AM) Mandozer: or like not shooting primaries
(6:20:50 AM) Mandozer: yeah thats not your problem
(6:21:04 AM) Mandozer: tbqh you should literally have stopped when I was like fuck you dana
(6:21:10 AM) Mandozer: that was a cry for you to stop speaking to me forever
(6:21:17 AM) Mandozer: like a cry for help
(6:21:24 AM) Mandozer: but more like a plea for silence
(6:21:26 AM) Mandozer: can you get on that please?
(6:22:04 AM) Mandozer: ok good talk dana
(6:22:06 AM) Mandozer: later