criminalToday at 11:41 AM
sounds way more complicated , but anything to alleviate the chore of regging the hall would be good

MaikeljToday at 11:42 AM
We've talked about this in a way before. Having quests that we can complete or taking land would be a good fix as well. Still gives you pvp opportunities if that is your goal.

criminalToday at 11:43 AM
^
[11:43 AM]
that would be good too

MaikeljToday at 11:44 AM
Guild flags on land would be fun, guild based quests for maybe killing lupogg king would give him a reason to exist and give the guild a goal.

SuchToday at 11:47 AM
105 has lots of good boss mobs already there from high level survival

MaikeljToday at 11:47 AM
Maybe 24 hr timers or something for like 2k regs. Each town has a different merchant offering the quest. Like island moxal or tos frisc giving different rewards.

TaranToday at 11:48 AM
Expanding quests is definitively something we want to do. Especially with the new quest UI that was created
[11:49 AM]
if players have ideas for fun quests. Feel free to send me a DM
[11:49 AM]
I can work with those ideas

SuchToday at 11:50 AM
My globe post from a year ago has lots of good ideas (edited)
[11:51 AM]
The quests will be repeated over and over so I don't think they need a lot of complexity. Go to Y area and kill Z boss mob(s).
[11:51 AM]
Key (in my view) is to trigger PvP by announcing server-wide + discord when & where.

TaranToday at 11:52 AM
Eventually I do want automated invasions. It is on our list of things
[11:52 AM]
we have been working on some things players have requested. Just takes us time heh

SuchToday at 11:53 AM
Yup of course, great to see anything at any pace - so much done already.
[11:59 AM]
What about a 'contested survival' which is open to your guild and war enemies, with increased reward multiplier based on number of enemies online?
[11:59 AM]
And remains open to joiners throughout

PKChrisChanToday at 12:02 PM
@Taran I like that idea! As long as he doesn't open our hall door!

SuchToday at 12:11 PM
(and maybe guild conveyance only available from contested survival)

tedToday at 1:52 PM
Regging the hall does not generate pvp at all
[1:52 PM]
in fact we wait for enemies to log typically
[1:55 PM]
If there were server-broadcasted quests, you have the solution to any lack of pvp. Sorry but catching someone on a mule doing errands is weak, and anyway most players are white, so the window of opportunity is super small if any...bottom line: its way more of a pain in the ass to stock the hall that it is anything good
[1:58 PM]
and when you're regging the hall you dump all your pvp regs in order to load up on stock.. meanwhile youll probably have elusion, being a stocker, and you can elusion away immediately in pvp.
[1:58 PM]
sorry but that is illogical @Delerium

IronheadToday at 2:24 PM
on my side its always the same coupel guys stocking the guild hall, we place mules around to spot , we use ogre so we dont have to enter the hall , not one time in all the time we have played here has it invoked pvp , im ALL for guild conveyance,  PERESONALLY   im sick of stocking the hall , thats why i havent been playing as much

criminalToday at 2:25 PM
everyone is sick of stocking the halls confirmed
[2:25 PM]
make sure to let del and taran know tho

IronheadToday at 2:27 PM
its his server if he dont want it then he dont want it , but the pvper make up most the population here, when we leave then the server goes boring , if not guild conveyance then they need to come up with something fairly fast, my side will drop out after iceman and i stop stocking the hall

criminalToday at 2:27 PM
im sure if he knew that the vast majority of us wanted this change
[2:27 PM]
he may feel differently

PKChrisChanToday at 2:27 PM


criminalToday at 2:27 PM
atm he may just think its a small portion of us being loud

IronheadToday at 2:28 PM
well james you are always loud
[2:28 PM]
but not always about game mechanics

criminalToday at 2:28 PM
well  that seems legit to me idk

IronheadToday at 2:28 PM
i am too because i like to troll you , but not usually about game mechanics

DeleriumToday at 2:28 PM
we know that every pvper would like a change like this

criminalToday at 2:28 PM
but both sides do indeed agree the game would be better without tedious hall regging yes?

IronheadToday at 2:29 PM
i reg my hall 2 times a week
[2:30 PM]
most drivers on my side use my halls regs

tedToday at 2:30 PM
I think we all agree yes, and it puts a lot of responsibility on usually a couple of people

IronheadToday at 2:30 PM
im sick of doing it , hate me or not fellas if my side wasnt here you wouldnt be here either right ?

tedToday at 2:30 PM
^ tru
[2:30 PM]
im sick of doing it too

IronheadToday at 2:31 PM
i feel the same about you guys like you hater you wte if you was gone we wouldnt stay

criminalToday at 2:31 PM
we would have had more PvP recently if my hall had not been empty of regs

IronheadToday at 2:31 PM
james
[2:31 PM]
your hall has 20 purples 50 ems and 3000000 herbs common man : )

criminalToday at 2:31 PM
ran out of emeralds actually
[2:32 PM]
big oof when trying to purge

TrevToday at 2:32 PM
But don't you guys have to be doing something on the game to get PVP going?

criminalToday at 2:32 PM
almost never are we doing anything on the game no ><

tedToday at 2:32 PM
yeah, we'll go take land.

TrevToday at 2:32 PM
I mean, if you are only going to log on when it is time to PVP, then nobody will ever stay on longer than 30 seconds except for James.
[2:32 PM]
So people will log on, see that there is no PVP and log off. You would need people doing chores on the game for other people to see them online and try to go get something started.

criminalToday at 2:32 PM
for the hour or so there is pvp the population spikes

TrevToday at 2:33 PM
A lot of the times that we had good PVP, we forced it on the other side. We logged somebody and they needed to come respond.

IronheadToday at 2:33 PM
trevor some of us been here for awhile we have money we have regs thats not the issue , it set up you have to always build toons to get cetain regs and thats fine , i dont want to spend 3 hrs farming regs and then spend an hr gettign them to the hall , 2 times a week

TrevToday at 2:33 PM
So if there is something else you can be doing, sure. But building/sorting regs/regging chars is like the only thing to do besides attack people.

IronheadToday at 2:33 PM
id rather just build to farm regs

tedToday at 2:33 PM
No what you need is server-wide quests that announce something special in  x y z zones

PKChrisChanToday at 2:34 PM
What ted said!

tedToday at 2:34 PM
and not just fucking land for princess

IronheadToday at 2:34 PM
im not saying guild convey f del dont want it but i do think somethign needs to happen and i fell the sooner the better

willpowerToday at 2:34 PM
you need quests for buffs and regs

tedToday at 2:34 PM
if you take land for cess you can get it back when so and so goes to sleep anyway

TrevToday at 2:34 PM
After reading some of the suggestions that Ted and PK had, I think I agree with you. But right now, regging might be kind of a place holder from @Delerium 's point of view?

DeleriumToday at 2:35 PM
we are reading and considering these alternative ideas for sure

TrevToday at 2:35 PM
Until there are viable alternatives that jumpstart PVP, you need chores to involve characters moving around in attackable zones.

IronheadToday at 2:35 PM
not every hall is close to our vaults some of us are lucky but some are not

criminalToday at 2:35 PM
we've all done countless hours of m59 chores to get where we're at

tedToday at 2:36 PM
^^^^

criminalToday at 2:36 PM
ppl just want to login and fight

PKChrisChanToday at 2:36 PM


TrevToday at 2:36 PM
Well that is why some halls are more desireable, and are worth trying to take

willpowerToday at 2:36 PM
we would need zones like guild hall that mules cant enter,pvp zones

tedToday at 2:36 PM
We've done enough chores

criminalToday at 2:36 PM
game ish supposed to be fun, not chores
[2:36 PM]
"D

PKChrisChanToday at 2:36 PM
Del: You spoiled brats need to work till you die!
[2:36 PM]


TrevToday at 2:36 PM
So the chores go away. People no longer have as many reasons to leave the inn. The opportunity for PVP dwindles.

tedToday at 2:37 PM
Del is suffering from stockholm syndrome thats all

IronheadToday at 2:37 PM
the load out is great , dont get me wrong way better then reggign with mules  but you still spend the same time regging as you do with mules its just not during pvp , and its always the same people doign the task

criminalToday at 2:37 PM
the only reason we leave the inn  is for pvP as is

PKChrisChanToday at 2:37 PM
I'm just kidding @Delerium

IronheadToday at 2:37 PM
only reason i build is for pvp or regs for pvp

willpowerToday at 2:37 PM
same

PKChrisChanToday at 2:37 PM
What if there were randomized server announced hotspots for regs?!

3

TrevToday at 2:37 PM
Same as everyone else here except for some nerds like Quicksilver.

tedToday at 2:37 PM
GREAT IDEA CHRIS

PKChrisChanToday at 2:37 PM
500 of every reg here if you hold this zone

criminalToday at 2:38 PM
soounds good chris yeah

PKChrisChanToday at 2:38 PM
Instantly transfers to your guildhall if your guild wins!

tedToday at 2:38 PM
lol I said this 3 weeks ago but
[2:38 PM]
XD

criminalToday at 2:38 PM
quiet ted, quit stealing chris' thunder

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tedToday at 2:38 PM
im sorry HAIL CHRIS

IronheadToday at 2:38 PM
yea but thats still just a number game

PKChrisChanToday at 2:38 PM


TrevToday at 2:38 PM
Yeah ted, this is not about your ego, ok?

PKChrisChanToday at 2:38 PM
(my thunder)

tedToday at 2:39 PM
isnt it though trev?
[2:40 PM]
trev
[2:40 PM]
lol

IronheadToday at 2:40 PM
maybe we should be able to elusion and rescue to vaults liek we can guild halls

tedToday at 2:40 PM
are you ready to make a character or what

PKChrisChanToday at 2:40 PM
But on the real, active real time events are a great idea.

willpowerToday at 2:40 PM
also like zones like beach, cant run awy, right Ted?

PKChrisChanToday at 2:40 PM
You know like Xeo node attacks but other events for things maxed characters want is something I always wanted

tedToday at 2:41 PM
from dowwwntown

IronheadToday at 2:41 PM
or maybe it should be an end game raid type thing that if you ( as a guild ) complete it you can get regs , maybe not just pvp based to get regs

willpowerToday at 2:41 PM
tired of have doors 1 sek away all the time

tedToday at 2:41 PM
if we had that mike it would be tedious for no reason
[2:42 PM]
yeah you gotta hold the zone for the better part of an hour

IronheadToday at 2:42 PM
there is some non pvpers we have to think of them too

tedToday at 2:42 PM
or something
[2:42 PM]
SCHEDULES

PKChrisChanToday at 2:42 PM
@Delerium Werent you and Diggie working on something like that years ago?

tedToday at 2:42 PM
Get some good PVP in and then go get REAL GROCERIES

IronheadToday at 2:42 PM
thats still just a number game ted

tedToday at 2:42 PM
hmm

DeleriumToday at 2:43 PM
there's some mostly complete automated events that diggie and keen were working on

tedToday at 2:43 PM
then mobs that drop a lot of loot

IronheadToday at 2:43 PM
not that im against pvp dont get me wrong but the server isnt just about your side and my side ect

PKChrisChanToday at 2:43 PM
(nods)

tedToday at 2:43 PM
no you have a good point

DeleriumToday at 2:43 PM
the easter egg hunt is the only complete automated event outside the obvious ones like frenzy/node attack

tedToday at 2:44 PM
then why not more bleeding egg hunts
[2:44 PM]
rofl

PKChrisChanToday at 2:44 PM
Yeah Easter Eggs are incredibly valuable things PvPers want

tedToday at 2:44 PM
lots of pvp would happen

PKChrisChanToday at 2:44 PM
Having spells not normally accessible to your character are viable rewards for these style of events

tedToday at 2:44 PM
i saw tons of people out during the egg hunt
[2:45 PM]
i saw dragonfly swimming in his neighbor's sick!
[2:45 PM]

[2:45 PM]
NO EGG

PKChrisChanToday at 2:46 PM
Imagine this....

tedToday at 2:46 PM


IronheadToday at 2:46 PM
example , lets say the one door in the yeti that goes nowhere , make a zone that has some hard mobs so you need at least 4 or 5 toons , of all different builds to complete and you get 500 of each reg and liek maikel said put a timer on it so you cant just perma farm it , complete or not there is a timer and you have to be guilded to enter

PKChrisChanToday at 2:46 PM
(A MSH falls out of the Sky in the Twisted Woods. Krannan is willing to give the last man standing the MSH as reward for killing everyone)
[2:46 PM]
Oh, it would be a shitstorm

IronheadToday at 2:47 PM
and  if you beat it the regs go to the guild hall

tedToday at 2:47 PM
but couldnt you choke it off
[2:47 PM]
numbers
[2:47 PM]
the thing about yeti cave is its very remote and a long path to get there

PKChrisChanToday at 2:48 PM
Could make everyone anon and shadowformed maybe?

tedToday at 2:48 PM
think merchants way

IronheadToday at 2:48 PM
make a min to enter and a max to enter

PKChrisChanToday at 2:48 PM
That too!

IronheadToday at 2:48 PM
liek no less then 4 no more then 6

tedToday at 2:48 PM
well that could be done with automated guild tourneys

willpowerToday at 2:48 PM
make a boss mob with mana bomb

tedToday at 2:48 PM
with only del approved guilds able to enter

PKChrisChanToday at 2:48 PM
(Krannan snatches the MSH from the sky and tosses it to Cragged Mountains)

willpowerToday at 2:49 PM
some new token could be used also, since allready in game
[2:50 PM]
but instant drainall mana and vigor so you need suport players

IronheadToday at 2:50 PM
yea have a guide , you have to get on a list , once your accepted the guy who is on the list , gets a time , then its up to him to get his guild there on time
[2:51 PM]
if you dont get 4 then you dont get to go you show up with more then 6 you cant go
[2:52 PM]
guilds only get 1 time per week or 2 times a week
[2:52 PM]
so you still have to build and run regs just not as much
[2:53 PM]
you might have to fight ( pvp ) to get to the start but once you get there its just your guild noone can jump you it be all mobs at that point

PKChrisChanToday at 2:53 PM
It could also be some kinda token reward system. Like completing these automated events allows you to take them to an NPC who does these things.
[2:54 PM]
So like winning automated tournaments (controlled numbers), winning king of the hill (zerg), xeo node attacks, other PvE objectives nets you one token to which you could trade for prizes like regs for halls, GGs, high end stuff

IronheadToday at 2:55 PM
yea im talking built toons , 5 100 hps will never complete the task ,
[2:56 PM]
thats why im saying all different builds , so you dont get 5 casters and 1 pf , needs to be some qor , some shal some dps toons or it will fail type thing
[2:57 PM]
so 5 shals cant do it , 5 qors cant do it 5 pfs cant do it , ect

tedToday at 2:57 PM
i mean , that would give bile something to do

DeleriumToday at 2:58 PM
btw if anyone has some spare time, we'd love it if these ideas could be written up (in bullet form or copy/paste the relevant discord messages if you want) and put on the forums for easy reference https://www.meridiannext.com/phpbb3/

PKChrisChanToday at 2:58 PM
Yup!

IronheadToday at 2:58 PM
yea im not the guy for that but pk could or maybe ted
[2:59 PM]
we would have to have something in place so 1 side couldnt make 5 guilds and have 5 halls and still over farm then move all the regs to 1 hall
[3:00 PM]
i mean we all know who the enemy sides toons are and mostly what guild they are in
[3:01 PM]
but i dont know all of alex toons or biles toons exp
[3:02 PM]
i probably know more of teds guild and james guild toons and drivers then i even do my side and who has what toons in the war guild or in my guild type thing
[3:03 PM]
even though alot are the same drivers , im not watching the who lit for my guys im watchign the who list for the enemy side my guys get in voice most the time so i know who is on