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[09:33:22] * Channel #eve-dev created on 2015-11-02 23:04:42 UTC
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[11:25:58] <wartzilla> today is World Kobane Day
[11:26:03] <wartzilla> today we celebrate the people of a tiny town that had nothing, yet stood up against savages for the cause of civilization
[11:26:04] <wartzilla> https://theregion.org/article/13199-the-battle-of-kobane-humanity-defying-darkness
[12:06:49] <Evelgrivion> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrzlMTRVt_I
[12:06:59] <Evelgrivion> Onboard footage of the failed MS-10 mission
[12:17:45] <wartzilla> https://hoards.com/article-24301-cattle-quadruple-the-protein-value-of-corn.html
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[12:26:14] <Evelgrivion> Huh. Interesting datapoint
[12:26:49] <Evelgrivion> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46395.0;attach=1523466;image Unrelated.
[12:30:53] <wartzilla> what is this?
[12:31:11] <Evelgrivion> Size comparison
[12:31:22] <Evelgrivion> Skylab, maximum fixed volume object for a BFS to carry, a SpaceX BFS, Bigelow inflatable module
[12:31:40] <wartzilla> is that what bfs looks like now?
[12:31:43] <wartzilla> those canards are bizarre
[12:31:56] <Evelgrivion> That's because they don't work like any flown aerosurfaces
[12:32:13] <Evelgrivion> They're designed to modify drag area
[12:32:35] <Evelgrivion> Same with the two bottom hinges on the back that also serve as landing legs
[12:32:45] <wartzilla> hm
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[12:34:15] <Evelgrivion> wartzilla, https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1854/30934146778_db76aa9637_k.jpg
[12:34:30] <Evelgrivion> Its closer to finalized than previous iterations
[12:34:34] <wartzilla> hm i had seen that
[12:34:41] <Evelgrivion> But I suspect the big front windows will be radically changed
[12:34:42] <wartzilla> i guess i overlooked the canards
[12:34:52] <Evelgrivion> I kinda like "Brakerons"
[12:36:10] <Evelgrivion> Also interesting: they ditched vacuum engines entirely for the upper stage
[12:36:21] <Evelgrivion> Which makes the ship on its own potentially viable as a reusable SSTO
[12:36:33] <wartzilla> that's good
[12:36:35] <wartzilla> i like it
[12:36:42] <wartzilla> not because i have any informed opinions on it
[12:36:46] <wartzilla> it just strikes me as neater
[12:37:01] <Evelgrivion> Probably a full two orders of magnitude difference in capability though
[12:37:03] <wartzilla> having separate vacuum engines always struck me as a 'NASA-like' thing to have
[12:37:06] <wartzilla> something NASA would do
[12:37:26] <Evelgrivion> Normally that's just a big vacuum nozzle extension
[12:37:32] <Evelgrivion> And a few other tweaks
[12:38:15] <Evelgrivion> A larger bell nozzle increases specific impulse a lot
[12:38:25] <Evelgrivion> But the impulse losses must have been worth it to make that decision
[12:38:39] <Evelgrivion> They gained cargo area at the bottom
[12:39:11] <Evelgrivion> Which would be dandy for things that they'd really rather have far aft when landing on another planet
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[14:30:32] <wartzilla> a meme is born https://twitter.com/PjotrSauer/status/1057999811528531968
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[22:29:20] <MrM> Another Italo disco (Hi-NRG) song that sounds oddly much like Fancy's Slicer me nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdEyZ3-OjU8
[22:35:11] <Cypherous> https://thehackernews.com/2018/11/bluetooth-chip-hacking.html?fbclid=IwAR3EsCsM0xnIn8a51lRGDV1Wb_ccYz_BlFweB_OCQAIKKTdxrz5k8aW19ZU
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