True nature of theism, genocide, anti-natalism

presidential debates are dumb anyway, almost nobody ever changes their mind on which candidate to vote for
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I don't think that's true.
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I hate Kavanaugh with substantial intensity.
exbee
only something like 4% of the electorate is up for grabs anyway (the "truly independent")
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He represents the failure of my country in living, mobile form.
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innit
I agree the numbers are small.
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This country needs a fucking reckoning.
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I just saw Buttigieg talking about how Sanders' and Warren's vision is "dividing America".
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I'm so sick of that language.
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All of their signature issues are MAJORITY issues with the American voters.
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But, even if they were, what does it mean to 'divide' people by having a different vision/belief system?
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What happens when they're 'divided' in this way?
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It's just simple demagoguery by Buttigieg as he tries to gaslight the American republic once more.
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Sanders and Warren are described as 'far left'.
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Their positions are the MAJORITY positions of Americans.
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They're centrists.
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The average American's politics are that of Warren and Sanders.
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They're described as extreme by all the anti-democratic forces in our country, like corporations who own media stations.
10:30 exbee
innit, one of the characteristics of extremists is to characterize the opposition as being un-nuanced extremists on the other side
innit
Agreed.
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Now we get word that Charles Koch is funding corporate democrats.
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exbee
i'm not really an expert on this euphony but it's important inasmuch as it set precedent
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https://twitter.com/jdelreal/status/1173314545252569088
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That's a fun story.
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Nothing like deporting a million citizens.
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https://www.history.com/news/great-depression-repatriation-drives-mexico-deportation
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[ The U.S. Deported a Million of Its Own Citizens to Mexico During the Great Depression - HISTORY ]
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ProfFarnsworth
No.
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Hello
exbee
euphony, that's very possible. islam has a particular nostalgia for the khulafa al-rashidun (rightly guided caliphs, or the "rashidun caliphate" though i hate that mixed linguism) and so forging something to claim it was from the time of omar can be motivated by making it feel more authentically islamic
exbee
regardless of whether it is authentic, it is taken as doctrine though, right
innit
Perfect men existed in our past! We just have to emulate them to be wonderful apes ourselves -- what higher honor can there be than being a great man from the 7th century in the Arabian peninsula?!
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I think Islam is such a joke.
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It seems a lot worse than Christianity, and there's a lot to criticize about Christianity.
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Islam is a public IQ test to me.
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"I should worship Muhammad? But you're a dumb fuck, basal, male human whose highest purpose is emulating some man that I don't find particularly special -- I'm holding out for something better."
pela
[ Narcissism of small differences - Wikipedia ]
innit
Basically, I think one of the worst things in the human experience is primal maleness in the context of modernity.
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And I think Islam is essentially just taking the evolutionary strategy of maleness, which Muslims don't consciously understand, and saying everything about it is great and wonderful.
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It's entirely incompatible with all the true ideals of our species, in my view.
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ProfFarnsworth
Monotheism is trash!
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The monotheism isn't that relevant.
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It's having a warlord from the 7th century as the Pinnacle of Being in modernity with diverse cultures over the globe and the presence of nuclear weapons and climate change.
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Remember, ProfFarnsworth, atheism is known true.
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As science hasn't taken any form of theism seriously for over 150 years.
ProfFarnsworth
So what? Science isn't the end-all-be-all of knowledge.
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And science is the best knowledge for our species which takes advantage of all methods that originate anywhere as long as they demonstrate they're useful.
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innit
So, from the perspective of truth, it is extremely well-established, to the point of general relativity level of confidence, that we live in an atheist universe.
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So, modern thinkers don't ever consider things like monotheism from the perspective of monotheists.
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All those 'theistic' constructs are just cognitive and social constructs and that is the correct way to interpret them.
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So, monotheism isn't trash, as monotheism doesn't exist.
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As there are no gods.
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Monotheism is a cognitive and behavioral strategy that humans utilized in their games of domination with other tribes.
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Really, though, human is trash.
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Our species is largely garbage and we largely deserve to die.
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We've had our chance, and we're a savage child race.
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The entire theistic project across all theistic culture is just a mind-technology to unify apes in locales in their wars with rival groups.
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That's it.
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That's the whole game.
AutoPirate
It’s best we do go extinct. If we escaped into the galaxy we’d just keep fucking up every habitable planet we could find.
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That's the root of all that 'divine' and 'sacred' and 'spiritual' reality.
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And almost all worldviews operate in much the same way.
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American nationalism, capitalism, and all the 'alternatives' and 'competitors' to theistic genocide.
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Theism is, to a large extent, what it feels like to *be* in genocide. And our species exalts that to the highest standard.
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Genocide, you'll recall from anthropology and biology, are one of the most consistent modes of human existence.
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is one*