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- You're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!
- Question to discuss:
- Kill yourself, we are just wasting our time on omegle. That is how shitty our life is.... or just find a hooker/girlfriend
- You: hmm
- Stranger: Fun fact: Porn is, in essence, unclean spiritually.
- You: porn is your friend
- Stranger: No
- You: hmm
- You: you could say porn is unclean
- You: but ya
- You: it works like heck
- Stranger: "In a Utah State University study, for example, more than half of male users said looking at porn led to problematic outcomes—social, spiritual, psychological, or relational. These negative effects weren’t linked to viewing time—the men who watched porn frequently were just as likely to report problems as those who watched it less often."...
- You: Hmm
- You: I guess it leads to happy things and unhappy things
- Stranger: The ones who didn't I would presume face some problems later on as well
- You: its better than getting horny and trying to sext here though
- Stranger: The "happy things" aren't a good compromise. Porn doesn't have a lot to offer
- You: that's what a lot of people do
- Stranger: I know
- You: I'd like them to just watch porn instead of trying to sext with me
- Stranger: A lot of them watch porn
- Stranger: Actually
- You: or ascertaining my gender
- You: porn is a nice way to put yourself to slepp
- You: sleep
- You: i mean actual sleep, not death
- Stranger: Either they watch porn or their mind is highly pornographic lol
- Stranger: It's horrendous
- You: some people can handle it though
- Stranger: It's bad either way
- Stranger: Sinful demonic and unprofitable
- You: many things are bad either way
- Stranger: In the long run that is
- You: smoking for example
- Stranger: I know that's the problem
- Stranger: Lol
- You: what
- Stranger: A lot of things are bad..."
- Stranger: I'm a nonconformist nondenominational Christian
- You: plenty of people do it despite knowing it can lead to their demise
- Stranger: Lol .. I know
- You: no clue what nondenominational means though
- You: probably some splintered off group
- You: because splintering is a prevalent problem in the christian church
- You: imo not having porn just makes people do stupid things
- Stranger: I don't let denominational diffrenrences sabatoge our common humanity and most importantly love
- You: makes em try to have sex with others while they're much too young for example
- You: satisfying those urges with porn works well enough instead
- You: and what is denominational? english isn't my first language
- You: minor?
- Stranger: I think people just lack self control its not a "porn works" thing
- You: or related to how you name things
- You: hmm
- You: they just need to know the consequences of having sex imo
- Stranger: People need to learn self control and not lust
- You: then its fine
- Stranger: The consequences are dependent
- Stranger: On circumstance
- You: satisfying yourself in the right environment is a means to self control
- Stranger: It's a bad means
- You: well it works better than many other means
- Stranger: Self control should be direct and not reliant on "oh here's my pill"
- You: I mean abstinence doesnt work for a teenages
- You: teenager
- You: seriously, a few years back the smallest things could get me very aroused
- You: spontaneous boners all round
- You: it should be direct, but people aren't perfect
- Stranger: Teenagers just lack love nowadays, this is coming from someone who once was one. . . Albeit we're not all the same
- Stranger: We need to love the younger generation
- You: the world is broken, love is the solution, communism is the solution, but in practice it doesn't work because of sin
- You: I mean a communist society would be pretty ideal, no?
- Stranger: We don't have to walk in sin.
- You: but only if everyone follows the rules/does not sin.
- You: but because of the hereditary sin, we cannot not sin
- Stranger: Christians sin but not the same way the world does.
- Stranger: There's willful sin and intentional sin
- You: every normal human commits sins
- You: it takes a god not to sin
- Stranger: We shouldn't sin
- You: we shouldnt
- Stranger: It leads to death
- You: but you cant guarantee we wont
- Stranger: Which is why there's genuine continual repetence
- Stranger: That's true
- Stranger: I'm humble enough to admit that
- Stranger: I can return to my sin today
- Stranger: repentance is vital
- You: You've probably sinned during this very conversation
- Stranger: My sin is diffrent though, not talking about the Bible enough can be sin for me for instance
- You: because even thinking about wanting to sin is as bad as committing the sin
- You: in gods eyes
- Stranger: We have to raise the standard to Christs standard
- Stranger: Not our own
- You: ik
- You: but we cant fulfill the standard
- You: so isnt that kinda unfair?
- Stranger: Christ said to renew my mind and not conform to this world
- You: ""no, because we deserve any punishment we get." (i know :()
- Stranger: Temptation isn't a sin until you give into it
- Stranger: In fact
- Stranger: Even Jesus was tempted yet did not sin
- You: umm im pretty sure desiring to kill someone was in gods eyes just as bad as actually doing it
- You: iirc it said that somewhere
- Stranger: That's not temptation.
- Stranger: That's desiring death
- Stranger: Upon someone
- You: wanting to steal something, wanting to break your marital vows
- You: all of that
- You: same stuff
- Stranger: You can be tempted to do a lot of things which is why repentance is vital and renewing our mind in Christ is too
- Stranger: Do you know what repentance is?
- You: and then wanting to break your marital vows is pretty much the same as desiring someone's bootay outside of marriage, no?
- You: sure i do
- You: its a complete reversal of ones mind and soul
- You: to lay down the old version of you and choose the right path
- Stranger: Desiring isn't the same thing as temptation. A temptation isn't a desire.. . . It's something that typically arises by external means but in all cases can be resolved internally.
- You: paraphrasing, cos translation
- Stranger: Repentance is vital here again
- Stranger: And most profitable
- You: anyways do we agree on the definition of repentance
- You: just wanna make sure i got it right :p
- Stranger: What's repetance to you?
- You: hmm
- Stranger: In short
- You: changing your bad habits and
- You: uhh
- You: how to translate
- Stranger: Repentance is a change of mind, which if genuine results in a change of action and character thereof.
- Stranger: It comes from your heart of hearts
- You: going for the offendee's wellbeing
- You: you gotta love em
- You: and you also oughta apologise to god imo
- You: because you kinda hurt his feelings
- You: by committing sin
- Stranger: Put off the old man. Put on the new man (Christ). I must decrease, but be must increase. Not my will, but yours (Gods), be done.
- Stranger: he must increase
- You: I guess i got it right then
- You: to lay down the old version of you and choose the right path
- Stranger: A little, but there's false repetance and actual repentance
- Stranger: Real repentance bears fruit
- Stranger: <<
- You: mhm
- Stranger: Jesus is the path
- You: there was a comparison with a tree that bore fruit / no fruit there
- Stranger: The right path at that
- You: ya
- You: stranger, where do you commit sins
- You: Im curious
- Stranger: A good tree and bad tree comparison
- Stranger: I don't walk in sin
- You: you do
- Stranger: Prove it
- You: all humans do
- You: lol
- You: god knows your sin
- You: and you should acknowledge it
- You: and repent
- You: thats how it works
- You: cant repent if theres no sin, mate
- Stranger: No they don't where's that in the Bible? "All have sinned [past tense] and fallen short of the glory of God..." Not all are forced to continue in sin.
- You: humans will always make mistakes, so long as they're not God
- You: and you are not God
- Stranger: This is a unbiblical notion that you "have to continue in sin" because "everyone sins."
- Stranger: I don't buy it
- You: I mean
- You: you can "not walk in sin"
- You: by when commiting sins
- Stranger: We turn away from sin and desire Christ. I decrease and he increases
- You: asking for forgiveness from the lord
- Stranger: Forgiveness is needed
- Stranger: Yes
- You: do you forgive yourself?
- Stranger: But let's not make the forgiveness only God can give us void
- You: ofc
- You: but by showing repentance and asking for forgiveness
- Stranger: The Bible says "shall we sin that grace may abound? God forbid."
- Stranger: Lol
- You: you WILL be granted forgiveness
- Stranger: Yes!
- Stranger: Ofc
- You: so long as your repentance is genuine
- You: so, do you forgive yourself?
- Stranger: Repentance and submission to God
- You: and for what
- Stranger: I already answered
- Stranger: Lol
- You: only God can give us void
- Stranger: We must forsake sin
- You: that;s not much of an answer
- Stranger: In reality we must give up sin
- You: thats more avoiding the question
- You: name your sins
- Stranger: But let's not make the forgiveness only God can give us void
- You: confess them
- Stranger: I don't walk in sin this is the reality
- You: if you cannot acknowledge your own sins, you should not be pointing out otheres
- Stranger: I can judge righteously
- You: there's that one about the splinter in ones eye
- Stranger: I'm not in error/sin I can nudge
- Stranger: Judge
- You: you cannot judge
- Stranger: John 7:25 - "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."
- Stranger: I can
- Stranger: 1 Corinthians 11:31 - "For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged."
- You: because human judgement is corrupted
- Stranger: Judgement is good
- Stranger: I judge
- You: all human judgement is affected by the hereditary sin
- You: and so is yours
- Stranger: Hence "transform/renewal of mind" is vital
- Stranger: I'm not in sin
- You: you are not the one to judge yourself, ask your brethern to check you too, because humans make mistakes
- You: dude
- You: are you in denial or something
- Stranger: You're notion isn't biblical 1 Corinthians 11:31 - "For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged."
- You: can you accept that every human commits sins on at least a weekly basis?
- Stranger: I judge and God tells me to
- Stranger: I'm not in error lol
- You: and by that im excluding jesus ofc
- Stranger: No.. But the MAJORITY DO.
- Stranger: This is biblical
- You: you cannot accept that?
- Stranger: The way to destruction is broad but to life is narrow
- You: uhmm i gotta look up my uhm
- You: whats it called in english
- Stranger: Bible?
- You: no the general thing
- You: people use to succinctly note all the main things of our faith
- You: like
- You: umm
- You: whats it called
- You: the Confession of faith
- You: is what google translate gives me
- You: the Apostolicum
- You: the Apostles' Creed
- Stranger: Okay. Just letting you know that we can either be sinners or saints. We can persue light or darkness. There's only death and life. Heaven and hell. And there's no middle ground because the destruction of sinners and transgressors shall be together the Bible says. . . "Shall we sin that grace may abound? God forbid." We crucify our flesh daily.
- Stranger: Christs creed is most profitable
- You: "We crucify our flesh daily" do you every day confess your sins in prayer and ask for forgiveness?
- You: hmm maybe i need to look for the other thing
- You: the catechismus
- You: or w/e its called in english
- Stranger: What sin have I commited today? If I've done wrong tell me of the wrong I've done? But if not why do you whip me?
- Stranger: Catechism isn't biblical. If you're a Catholic you need to repent immediately
- Stranger: ? Are you
- You: have you thought anything bad of someone
- Stranger: No
- You: anything that does not correspond with a helpful kind of love
- You: anything done not for other people but solely for your own gain
- You: do you know this one: the Heidelberg Catechism
- You: I. The Misery of Man
- This part consists of the Lord's Day 2, 3, and 4. It discusses:
- The Fall,
- The natural condition of man,
- God's demands on him in His law.
- Stranger: I don't ascribe to unbiblical notions. I prefer solely bible scriptures
- You: II. The Redemption (or Deliverance) of Man
- This part consists of Lord's Day 5 through to Lord's Day 31. It discusses:
- The need for a Redeemer
- The importance of faith, the content of which is explained by an exposition of the 12 Articles of the Christian faith, known as the Apostle's Creed. The discussion of these articles is further divided into sections on:
- God the Father and our creation (Lord's Days 9–10)
- God the Son and our salvation (Lord's Days 11–19)
- God the Holy Spirit and our sanctification (Lord's Days 20–22)
- Justification
- The Sacraments of Baptism and the Lord's Supper
- And the keys of the kingdom of heaven The Preaching of the Gospel and Church Discipline
- Stranger: Wnat is that
- Stranger: What
- Stranger: Lmao
- You: copypasted from a wikipedia page
- You: do you acknowledge that you need jesus?
- Stranger: I already have God no
- You: you dont need jesus?
- You: then what about that is christian lol
- Stranger: No this is a fact. But I need him involved in my life
- Stranger: Lol there's a difference bewteen coming before Jesus and having already come before him
- Stranger: Maybe you need to electorate
- Stranger: Elaborate
- You: hmm I kinda want an english translation for that whole catechism now
- Stranger: The Bible only matters
- You: ok i found it
- You: its supported by the bible
- Stranger: I can survive without man's ideas but not without Gods
- Stranger: Ok
- You: you can look up the texts
- You: What does the Law of God require of us?
- Christ teaches us in sum, Matthew 22, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”1
- [1] Matt. 22:37–40; Lk. 10:27. *Deut. 6:5. *Gal. 5:14.
- You: you agree with that?
- Stranger: I agree with all of the Bible
- You: Can you keep all this perfectly?
- No,1 for I am prone by nature to hate God and my neighbor.2
- [1] Rom. 3:10–12, 23; 1 Jn. 1:8, 10. [2] Rom. 8:7; Eph. 2:3.
- Stranger: Lol
- You: how bout that then
- You: because you seemed not to agree
- You: you said you were not prone to commit sin
- Stranger: Just because you can't keep something doesn't mean you should sin. "Shall we sin that grace may abound? God forbid." We must turn away from sin and forsake it.
- Stranger: Lol
- Stranger: I don't walk in sin
- You: you cannot keep God's law because you are prone by nature to hate God and your neighbour
- You: that's what it says
- You: we should look up the corresponding parts from the bible
- Stranger: The Bible says "make no provision for the flesh to fuffill the lust therof. It says "be ye holy even as your Father in heaven IS holy..."
- You: hey
- Stranger: Forsaking sin is vital
- Stranger: Don't walk in error bud
- You: romans 3, verse 10-12
- You: read that
- Stranger: Romans doesn't trump what I've said
- Stranger: Lol
- You: So it is written: No man is just, not even one. No man is wise, there is no man who seeks God
- Stranger: So therefore you must be a sinner by force?
- You: All have turned themselves away, all of humanity is corrupted.
- Stranger: This needs to be looked at within its context
- You: thats what the bible says there, no?
- You: ok do so pls
- Stranger: This isn't contextual
- Stranger: However this is The Bible says "make no provision for the flesh to fuffill the lust therof. It says "be ye holy even as your Father in heaven IS holy..."
- Stranger: I believe God
- You: its in the context of
- You: are we as jews not also sinful?
- You: we ARE sinful
- You: and every human is
- Stranger: You're making provision bud
- You: thats what it says, pretty much
- You: what
- You: read it please
- Stranger: That's not good nor biblical
- Stranger: The Bible says "make no provision for the flesh to fuffill the lust therof. It says "be ye holy even as your Father in heaven IS holy..."
- You: and then quote what disagrees with what i said
- You: dude
- Stranger: The Bible says "make no provision for the flesh to fuffill the lust therof. It says "be ye holy even as your Father in heaven IS holy..."
- You: you're not even reading the bible, are you? just typing quotes you put in your head by learning
- You: please just study this part with me
- Stranger: Shall we sin that grace may abound?
- You: I want to know what you think it means in the context
- You: please help
- Stranger: Shall we sin that grace may abound?
- Stranger: The Bible says "make no provision for the flesh to fuffill the lust therof. It says "be ye holy even as your Father in heaven IS holy..."
- You: i have no idea what that means man
- Stranger: Don't walk in sin bud
- You: you're using pretty archaic language
- You: you too
- You: please just study the bible with me
- Stranger: Sin leads to death. I don't walk in sin
- You: is that too much to ask?
- Stranger: The Bible says "make no provision for the flesh to fuffill the lust therof. It says "be ye holy even as your Father in heaven IS holy..."
- You: why wont you read the bible
- Stranger: Don't walk in error bud
- Stranger: We shouldn't sin
- You: eh just copypastas?
- Stranger: 1 Corinthians 11:31 - "For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged."
- Stranger: You don't believe God?
- You: read the bible with me pls
- You: i do
- Stranger: Ok
- You: but we seem to disagree
- Stranger: Let's not hurt God then
- You: i want to know the truth
- You: what is this text about?
- Stranger: Yes I'm not for hurting God
- You: romans 3, verse 10-12
- You: tell me
- Stranger: Lol
- Stranger: Romans doesn't trump what God told us to do
- You: dude
- You: its a letter to the romans
- You: sent by one of the apostles
- Stranger: Ok be contextual then
- Stranger: The Bible doesn't tell us to sin
- You: you have a bible of your own dont you
- Stranger: YEP.
- You: read with me
- You: i cant type fast enough
- Stranger: I've read al of it
- You: nor translate fast enough
- Stranger: all
- You: read it again
- You: it cant hurt
- You: why are you so afraid of reading this with me
- Stranger: I did and it doesn't tell me to sin
- Stranger: I'm not afraid
- You: dude
- Stranger: The Bible says "make no provision for the flesh to fuffill the lust therof. It says "be ye holy even as your Father in heaven IS holy..."
- You: it says all humans commit sin
- Stranger: So you have to sin?
- You: stop the copypastas please
- You: we do
- You: we cannot not sin
- Stranger: No you're not being biblical
- You: we are simply unable to
- You: yes i am
- Stranger: No
- You: ffs the text i referred you to says what i just said
- Stranger: The Bible says "make no provision for the flesh to fuffill the lust therof. It says "be ye holy even as your Father in heaven IS holy..."
- You: you quote it then, just to check we have the same version
- You: and stop the pasting the same line over and over please
- You: its getting annoying
- Stranger: The verses you're looking at only describe our fallen nature they don't tell us to continue in it
- You: ofc not
- You: we shouldnt
- You: but we do
- Stranger: I can copy and paste the Bible
- You: and you're saying you dont
- Stranger: I always do
- You: so you do always sin
- Stranger: Lol
- Stranger: No
- You: wtf
- Stranger: I always turn away from sin
- You: our nature is fallen
- Stranger: You're using curse slang?
- You: you cannot resist
- Stranger: You're in sin ..
- You: i dont see how saying wtf would insult the Lord
- Stranger: God doesn't tell you to be a sinner. Does he?
- Stranger: We're to present ourselves as the oracles of God
- You: the bible tells us to live with nonchristians, but live differently from them
- Stranger: Is curse slang presenting yourself as an oracle of God? No!
- Stranger: Ok
- You: by doing so, we are basically living billboards for christianity
- You: its no suprise we pick up some cultural slang words
- You: and they dont seem harmful in any way
- You: when used in moderation
- You: anyways the bible tells us to strive not to sin
- You: we know we will, but we must try anyways
- You: when we inevitably fail, we must seek forgiveness
- You: that's how it works
- You: you cant just say you dont walk in sin so you dont need forgiveness
- You: that's bullcrap
- Stranger: Repentance if genuine is continual
- Stranger: Just telling you bud. That no sin can nor will enter heaven. . . The Bible says "make no provision for the flesh to fuffill the lust therof. It says "be ye holy even as your Father in heaven IS holy..."
- You: yeah
- You: ok
- You: so
- You: the bible tells you not to sin
- You: wow such big news /s
- Stranger: I don't walk in sin this isn't a debate it's a fact
- You: ...
- Stranger: Lol
- You: dude all humans walk in sin
- Stranger: I obey the bible? So wow?
- Stranger: Lol
- Stranger: I don't walk in sin
- You: its just a matter of whether you are willing to accept that you sin and show repentance
- You: nobody obeys the bible
- You: for real
- You: no human other than Jesus Christ can
- You: and you are NOT Jesus Christ
- You: like what
- You: do you even read the bible
- Stranger: We're not told to sin and ask for forgiveness this is false and antichrist. We're told to ask for forgiveness and turn away from sin..
- You: im starting to doubt you do, or you ignore the parts you do not find convenient
- Stranger: Just telling you bud. That no sin can nor will enter heaven. . . The Bible says "make no provision for the flesh to fuffill the lust therof. It says "be ye holy even as your Father in heaven IS holy..."
- Stranger: You're the one ignoring
- You: dude please just ask your local pastor whether you commit sin or not and he'll tell you, YOU DO.
- Stranger: You're holding unto your sin
- Stranger: I don't walk in sin
- You: and stop pasting that line all the time
- Stranger: Just telling you bud. That no sin can nor will enter heaven. . . The Bible says "make no provision for the flesh to fuffill the lust therof. It says "be ye holy even as your Father in heaven IS holy..."
- You: That no sin can nor will enter heaven. . . The Bible says "make no provision for the flesh to fuffill the lust therof. It says "be ye holy even as your Father in heaven IS holy..."
- Stranger: You hate the Bible
- You: That no sin can nor will enter heaven. . . The Bible says "make no provision for the flesh to fuffill the lust therof. It says "be ye holy even as your Father in heaven IS holy..."
- You: That no sin can nor will enter heaven. . . The Bible says "make no provision for the flesh to fuffill the lust therof. It says "be ye holy even as your Father in heaven IS holy..."
- You: That no sin can nor will enter heaven. . . The Bible says "make no provision for the flesh to fuffill the lust therof. It says "be ye holy even as your Father in heaven IS holy..."
- You: stop that
- You: its annoying
- Stranger: Read it
- You: i do not hate it
- You: you are trolling me, arent you
- Stranger: Lol read it then
- Stranger: Nope
- Stranger: Read it
- You: i have it in my friggen hands right here
- You: dude
- Stranger: Okay accept it now
- You: Romans 3:10: So it is also written: 'No man is just, not even one'
- You: that's romans 3:10
- You: you are not just
- You: the bible spells it out for you
- You: the context spells out to this conversation perfectly
- Stranger: It doesn't say "no man can be just" were justified by the blood alone
- Stranger: Lol
- You: you clean you do not sin, as did the jews
- You: claim*
- Stranger: I don't promote sin
- You: romans 3:10-12 tells you you're wrong
- Stranger: I don't say that I'm God
- Stranger: Lol
- You: YOU COMMIT SIN WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT
- You: UNLESS YOU ARE GOD
- You: AND YOU ARE NOT GOD
- Stranger: I don't walk in sin nor did I say that I'm God
- You: IF YOU DO NOT COMMIT SIN, YOU ARE GOD
- You: YOU ARE NOT GOD
- You: YOU COMMIT SIN
- Stranger: "Walk in sin...."
- You: IS IT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?!
- You: ffs
- Stranger: You're not Reading anything I'm saying
- You: What's wrong with you
- Stranger: You're using curse slang
- You: i have the bible in my lap
- You: literally
- You: and you claim i do not read the bible
- Stranger: You're not a Christian so don't lie to yourself
- Stranger: Just telling you bud. That no sin can nor will enter heaven. . . The Bible says "make no provision for the flesh to fuffill the lust therof. It says "be ye holy even as your Father in heaven IS holy..."
- Stranger has disconnected.
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