Stalin vs Setsuna

Alright, so first things first: I honestly just don't buy arguing against stips. It's against the spirit of the tourney, Zoom is Zoom as stipulated.

Second things second: Setsuna did massively better in their second response by taking the time to read other debates, and holy hell would be a terror if they opened up that way.

Third things third: I believe Stalin still overwhelmingly wins. Setsuna relies immensely and almost solely on Kiryu, whose impressive Blink feat posting and physicals were honestly goddamn good. BUT:

You cannot Blink against Zoom, it just isn't feasible against that speed.

Kodama is a goddamn brick shithouse whose strength and durability went largely unassailed.

Jane's meme undead hair bullshit is absurdly powerful here when combined with her unblinking stare.

Ryuki and Naidan are largely detriments, and even given that I could see someone arguing Kiryu solos because he's just that insane against any non-Kengan pick. But the wasted argumentation against Zoom was....bad. The stip is the stip, if Zoom is stipulated as healthy and no bullet hole in head you can't just argue he has a bullet hole in his head, and even THEN his feats are too good to get tagged.

Stalin wins, but damn Setsuna did an incredible job for a first timer who understood how to debate between their first and second response.