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Ideas for 100%

Aug 15th, 2017
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  1. Possible Optimizations and/or "Lazy" fixes to 100% route
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  3. skipping the rest of PF in 100% saves roughly 2.5 mins on that segment
  4. we save about 20s in pr to skipping 2 of the eggs
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  6. we might have to invert later to not be early for midnight meeting?
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  8. Note: We do not need bottle before PF, but we do need picto before PF. We do not need bow for lullaby, we can use hookshot. Route change probably won't involve this though.
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  10. Optimization Idea: We no longer need to dupe deku nut, so maybe we can collect deku nut for the first time ever in secret shrine since it doesn't waste any time to movement (I thought about this more and we probably can't use this idea since I think we want to dupe nut for fish HP because we need moon's tear before nwbn/fish HP, which are together now, and we buy 20 chus after moon's tear so can't use chu instead of nut and we want stick for oceanside; we need to dupe before PF because otherwise our real bottle will have a zora egg in it and we won't be able to dupe anything)
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  12. Thought: We should only catch 1 zora egg, so optimally we catch the egg in PR after seahorse HP. However, this also means that we don't really have to center the PR snake route around finishing at the bottom where the last egg is, because we only need 1 egg. So a different PR route that skips the bottom egg and finishes at one of the other 2 eggs might have potential to be faster. Would need testing and this is low priority compared to the other things that need routing.
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  16. Rough Idea:
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  19. Cycle 2:
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  21. Bow, bottle
  22. Picto
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  24. SoS GB, zora (drink red potion during cs), swim to catch fish before PF, dupe over deku nut, hookshot, picture, HP
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  26. | we have a fish in our real bottle and a zora egg in our deku nut bottle
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  28. SoS GB
  29. Oceanside, PR (skip 2 eggs, only catch egg after seahorse HP)
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  31. | note we don't get nwbn yet; we still have an egg in our nut bottle
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  33. SoS Mountain Village
  34. lullaby, Don Gero
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  36. SoS Milk Road
  37. swamp gossips, moon's tear, scrub hp, canyon gossips, midnight meeting, deposit letter, 20 chus, sword school, bombers, ocean gossips, kamaro, dodongo (as normal)
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  39. SoS Great Bay
  40. Moon's Tear Dupe for fish HP (can you jump from top of fish tank when you collect HP to grab top of tank for dropping eggs?)
  41. Moon's Tear Dupe for NWBN
  42. NWBN CS Skip (SoS Snowhead)
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  44. continue as normal; you cannot get Paper HP this cycle because bottle over moon's tear
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  48. Early Cycle 2 ideas seem pretty set in stone regardless of how we get paper HP. Figuring out paper HP is more work.
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  50. Question: since we no longer do fish HP after GBT, is it still better to hit GB owl after GBT? Or should we hit it before GBT? If we hit it after GBT, possible we could use torch minigame to waste igt for postman?
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  55. Some Paper HP Ideas:
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  57. Idea 1:
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  59. SoDT immediately (this costs about 16.5s)
  60. set midnight meeting
  61. withdraw rupees, buy keg, bombs, and chus, hookshot clip and store SoDT
  62. talk to WCT guard to bring up SoDT Text, day reset entering TF
  63. Can get paper HP w/ anju letter in blast mask route or we could reroute aliens and put it in aliens route; blast is prob faster but maybe harder
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  65. (prob lose under 40s to this stuff if I had to venture a random guess; route maintains its main structure in this case)
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  68. Idea 2:
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  70. get Couple's Mask, store SoT in laundry pool, get priority mail again, go back to inn and get paper HP (this idea has issues because it'd need extra soar because we'd have to do mountain village stuff before postman/couple's mask and to do mountain village first, we need big bomb bag which we get during bank HP; however, this soar might not be that bad because without deku scrub Return A, we will always be early to postman's hat with good gameplay, but mountain village would use up some more igt to resolve this issue, but would probably need to invert, so that's bad.)
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  73. Idea 3:
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  75. Possible to structure night 3 like older version of 100% route where we buy big bomb bag and give letter to postman in separate trick...
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  78. Sakon's hideout (turns midnight)
  79. dampe
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  81. SoS clock town
  82. letter to postman
  83. big bomb bag
  84. bank HP
  85. withdraw 200r (choose some time to uninvert)
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  87. SoS Mountain Village
  88. frog hp/gilded sword/maybe lake hp
  89. mountain HP (1 bomb + 7 chus)
  90. biggest bomb bag
  91. keg
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  93. SoS clock town
  94. postman's hat
  95. | We will not be early for postman
  96. couple's mask
  97. store SoT in laundry pool
  98. get priority mail
  99. get paper HP
  100. SoT
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  102. (detour seems kind of bad, maybe Idea 1 is best? however idea 1 is early to postman's hat; the question is: How early if you play perfectly?)
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  106. Weird B for seahorse
  107. Seedborn: if you are swordless, you can put on zora during h&d to get weird B (this means seahorse without picture)
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  109. enter house -> seahorse -> exit is like 16s
  110. picture takes a few seconds
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  112. my idea:
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  114. we are swordless when we do h&d 2 and we visit GB on night 2
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  117. Idea:
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  119. Bow, bottle
  120. Picto
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  122. SoS GB, zora (drink red potion during cs), hookshot, HP (no picture, no fish, no eggs) edit: maybe we need to catch fish here, since we can't dupe inside inn and we need empty bottle for fairy in STT which we release at garo
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  124. | we have 1 bottle, it is an empty real bottle
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  126. SoS GB
  127. Oceanside (no seahorse, no PR, no NWBN)
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  129. SoS Mountain Village
  130. lullaby, Don Gero
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  132. SoS Milk Road
  133. swamp gossips, moon's tear, scrub hp, canyon gossips, midnight meeting, deposit letter, 20 chus, sword school, bombers, ocean gossips, kamaro, dodongo (as normal)
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  135. SoS Snowhead
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  137. ...
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  139. Woodfall temple
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  143. STT
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  147. deposit razor
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  149. ...
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  151. h&d 2 weird B on zora (seahorse)
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  155. postman HP
  156. biobaba HP
  157. enter GB
  158. GB owl
  159. PR + seahorse hp + egg + sos gb
  160. fish hp + nwbn
  161. nwbn cs skip (SoS GB)
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  163. extra soar? :/
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