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- Round 2
- Ame vs Stalin
- R1
- Ame
- * Stat posting
- * Cass' nerve strikes won't work because of Team Ame being naturally armored
- * Team Ame's Speed > Team Stalin's Speed
- * Team Ame gasses out Team Stalin
- * Cass' Precog doesn't work
- Stalin
- * Stat posting
- * Cass = Batman
- * Batman Anti-feats
- * Team Ame lets themselves be hit by bullets
- * Sara is slow
- R2
- Ame
- * Team Stalin is lacking in esoteric resistances
- * "Lady literally just dies to anything my team decides to throw at her. If she gets tagged once she's out."
- * "All the Cass scaling is bad. Like half of its just bad feats, and the other half is scaling a serious striking feat to a sparing session."
- * Batman anti-feats aren't true either in context of today
- * Roland's setting, guns are stronger due to being in the future + appropiate statements
- * Roland can tank gun wounds anyways
- * Sara piercing resistance good
- * Only Luka has relevant striking and Team Ame can deal with it
- * Team Ame is more defensibly bullet-timing than Team Stalin
- * Team Ame Range > Team Stalin Range
- * Batman Skilled
- Stalin
- * Batman and Sara's durability is not as good as stated
- * Roland's durability is just fake
- * Luka's durability is real
- * Cass is fast as fuck bro
- * Nightwing WAS trying with Cass
- * Holy Batman anti-feat dump
- * Lady is definitively a bullet timer
- * Batman isn't as intelligent as claimed
- R3
- Ame
- * A lot of Cass' speed comes from her ability to read foes and she isn't as fast without it. This is a huge factor to 2 out of 3 of Ame's team.
- * NW scaling can be inconsistent
- * Lady's aim is really bad
- * Lady's scaling is kinda sus from different writers
- * Lady's damage output is kind of questionable
- * Luka's piercing likely isn't that much of a buff from his strength
- * Luka's attacks are telegraphed and he doesn't have any esoteric resistance
- * "Finding a couple anti-feats over 2400 appearances isn't impressive."
- * Batman upgrade log
- Stalin
- * Lady missing aren't real except for like one
- * Demons being vulnerable isn't real
- * "Lady shoots small caliber bullets, this will lower your character's fear of them."
- * Luka despite being a telegraphed attacker will still fight and tag bullet timers
- * Current suit has a lot of anti-feats
- Here's a few opinions I am going to shed to give both debaters a sense of what I was convinced by:
- * Cass is NOT equal to Batman
- * Lady has like no durability what so ever
- * Team Stalin overall doesn't have a lot of esoteric resistance
- * Batman's current feats as of most recent while not "objectively bad" are at least questionable
- * Demons being vulnerable to bullets was kind of a sus argument
- * Team Ame lets themselves get hit by bullets
- * The entire house feat was also just fake
- There's probably a lot bigger points that I haven't mentioned quite yet, but my takeaways generally is this
- * Arguing anti-feats a lot of the time is more trouble than its worth IMO unless you are legitimately as knowledgeable about the topic matter as the user running the character. While this isn't to say both people didn't score themselves a ton of proverbial points when dumping them, there seemed to usually be a 'reason' as to why the anti-feats weren't valid. I think some of the anti-feats were for sure factoring into my opinion shifts, but a lot of the time they seemed to just be a proverbial rebuttal Stalingrad which ultimately dials back to square 1.
- * Ultimately, I think Stalin takes this by a smidge. While Ame says the gas propagates, we don't really have an idea of how fast it does so (nor does he even say that I think). With how Lady has the fuckgood aim feat of SHOOTING A BULLET OUT OF MID-AIR and the fact that while I think Batman is generally 'resistant' to bullets but not "lol 50 cals don't do anything to me', I think he's more likely to get taken down by it. Coupled with how Stalin points out his characters' guns "don't" look all that lethal in comparison, I think his team can quickly turn this into a 2v3 and snowball from there.
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