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- The optics debate is over. Anything which makes the dissident right more attractive to the Ricky Vaughn's of the world than natsoc larpers is good inherently. Ricky Vaughn became a "civnat" to distance himself from this. I dont agree with everything Vaughn said but he had real criticisms, it wasn't 'counter-signalling' which applies to contentless and grandiose narratives to inflate oneself
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