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  1. Jessica Law:
  2. Bc it ain’t mine
  3. maybe mike but idk
  4. Leila:
  5. Idk don’t think so
  6. Def no loofa or anything
  7. Jessica Law:
  8. Fuckin weird
  9. Leila:
  10. My color conditioner and I shampoo have and my baby conditioner I have. I didn’t bring shampoo
  11. Idk
  12. Jessica Law:
  13. Oof, idk, thx - very strange
  14. Leila:
  15. 🤷‍♀️
  16. Pic?
  17. Jessica Law:
  18. I’ll just ask mike later I mean you would remember
  19. They’re like those big pump jug size
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  25. Leila:
  26. Yeah then not mine
  27. I like pusheen Luna
  28. Did you read discord
  29. ?
  30. I’d appreciate some kind of response
  31. Or acknowledgment that you read it at the very least
  32. Jessica Law:
  33. i read it
  34. i always read what you write
  35. i mean, you need to do what you want to do
  36. idk what you’d want me to say about it
  37. Leila:
  38. Ok
  39. Nothing
  40. Jessica Law:
  41. do you want me to leave you alone?
  42. Leila:
  43. Just got anything genuine about the year+ I’ve been working hard and closely with you.
  44. Jessica Law:
  45. ?
  46. Leila:
  47. I didn’t mean to type got
  48. Jessica Law:
  49. i mean i wrote a whole recommendation about you, all of it true, i would hope by now you know how i feel and how helpful youve been
  50. Leila:
  51. Ok
  52. Jessica Law:
  53. i didnt think i needed to iterate that
  54. and i didnt think this was the end
  55. so i wasn’t treating it as such
  56. Leila:
  57. It’s the end of haven, considering
  58. I’m not going to demand or beg
  59. Jessica Law:
  60. i’m literally going off of what you said, that you wanted a break
  61. Leila:
  62. But I’d have appreciated at least a simple kind response, and not to have to ask if you’ve read things
  63. Ok
  64. Jessica Law:
  65. sorry today was very busy, i woke up to chaos
  66. so after closing all the dms you left
  67. i probably just forgot or responded in my head
  68. Leila:
  69. Ok
  70. not a single response from anyone even you doesn’t feel good
  71. It is what it is
  72. Jessica Law:
  73. 😐
  74. Leila:
  75. Ok
  76. I’m not sure how to take that or what it means
  77. I’m sorry I asked for a response instead of knowing everything I should have. I don’t want to wind up in the same place.
  78. Just a sad ending to everything
  79. Few nice words would have been appreciated
  80. Felt odd being texted as if nothing happened and then feeling bad for even asking if you’d read it or had a response, Bc of the expectation that I should already know everything.
  81. Jessica Law:
  82. im sorry i didnt have anything to say
  83. i thought a text would be a response
  84. Leila:
  85. About shampoo?
  86. Felt very dismissive and hurtful
  87. Jessica Law:
  88. man i just cant win
  89. Leila:
  90. Ok
  91. I don’t know how to take that either
  92. Jessica Law:
  93. i dont see how talking to you is dismissive
  94. to me if anything it’s a sign of continuity
  95. Leila:
  96. I think that not responding to something so massive and being texted about something random seems dismissive
  97. Especially considering how I felt prior to leaving
  98. I don’t want to argue
  99. It is done
  100. Harnessing any expectations is not serving me well. Even a thank you and I hope you feel better. But I stepped down or away and had nothing, not even a response from you, as if all the time spent was nothing.
  101. I think it’s unfair to expect me to automatically know or not feel bad about writing and no response Bc of chaos or whatever else. That felt dismissive
  102. Jessica Law:
  103. no fuck that
  104. Leila:
  105. It was a good thing for me and something I thought I was doing to give back and put an extreme amount of effort into
  106. Jessica Law:
  107. bc not responding to one message doesnt say boo compared to everything you’ve already heard me say
  108. stop
  109. Leila:
  110. It wasn’t one message, I left all the servers completely and stepped down completely
  111. I’m so confused as to why it’s like a seemingly random minor thing
  112. I just wanted a conclusion
  113. Jessica Law:
  114. that i didnt respond to one message?
  115. we talked the entire time you were doing that
  116. Leila:
  117. You don’t owe me anything Jess
  118. Jessica Law:
  119. thats not what you seem to be saying
  120. your message is very clearly that my response was wrong for you
  121. Leila:
  122. I didn’t get a response
  123. Jessica Law:
  124. that it somehow negates your whole existence on haven
  125. Leila:
  126. I wrote something intense and was texted about shampoo
  127. Jessica Law:
  128. you confuse me
  129. Leila:
  130. I’m sorry
  131. I don’t want to continue this
  132. I don’t want to upset you further and I don’t want to share things Bc I don’t think it’s healthy
  133. And I don’t want to dive deeper and argue
  134. I said what I have and it was genuine and I meant it when I said I hope I did some good and that I’m grateful
  135. I think that’s the best place to leave things
  136. I want to walk away feeling that the time I did put in was worth it and not having an argument or repeating the past
  137. And I have walked away
  138. I simply said it felt dismissive Bc I would have liked a response to what I wrote and not the expectation that I should know better and feel fine not getting any response. You don’t owe me anything and vice versa. I don’t want to function off that base.
  139. You have me a lot of good and I can only hope it was mutual
  140. Learning a lot of negative things about me from others on the server was also hurtful and was something I mentioned and I felt that it was ok to share and I felt like it would have been nice to have a response to what I wrote after leaving the servers.
  141. I think it’s unhealthy for both of us clearly
  142. I would you can at least understand how not receiving a response to what I wrote felt dismissive especially followed by something very random, and considering how I’ve felt and what I’ve experienced in being ignored while working on haven. I would like some understanding but that’s not an expectation it’s just something I feel might have made me feel a bit less bad
  143. I have walked away and I have nothing to show for it and learning more negatives about myself especially inaccurate ones feels pretty horrible considering how many hours and weeks and months and over a year I dedicated to it and worked it as if it was a real paying job, and Bc I was passionate about
  144. If I felt owed something I would never have done that
  145. It came from the heart and I never once asked for any kind of compensation
  146. In fact I turned it down
  147. So hearing for you and seeing your anger or the idea that I am pushing towards the side of feeling owed something also is hurtful to me.
  148. I put in more hours than many people do for most legit paying jobs for a while. I didn’t think even think about compensation Bc it never crossed my mind. I don’t want to end my time in haven on that kind of premise
  149. Bc I never expected anything back
  150. Jessica Law:
  151. youre literally saying to me i dismissed you and negated everything youve ever done for the haven because i didnt reply to one message
  152. Leila:
  153. No
  154. I’m saying exactly what I typed
  155. Which is how I felt
  156. And it wasn’t one random message. It was a very massive beyond heartbreaking decision and I had left the servers which happened after you went to sleep. I don’t think it’s one toss off random thing. It was a big deal, at least to me.
  157. If you feel how you do I can’t change that
  158. Jessica Law:
  159. i mean, i just cant help that i didnt have something to say
  160. Leila:
  161. Ok
  162. Jessica Law:
  163. like, seriously today was busy
  164. from the second i woke up
  165. and it continues to be so
  166. Leila:
  167. Ok
  168. Jessica Law:
  169. when i read i think i didnt have a response
  170. this isnt a diss on you
  171. but i didnt think it was a huge deal either since all of this was “im on a break”
  172. Leila:
  173. It wasn’t a break after everything I wrote.
  174. And you don’t owe me anything
  175. Like I said
  176. I did what I did Bc it came from the heart
  177. I can’t control how it ends if I decided to leave
  178. But it felt like an immensely dismissive ending, in many ways, past your few words or lack there of.
  179. I have to hold tight all the good and all that I felt was positive
  180. Jessica Law:
  181. ok
  182. i didnt glean from that that you were gone for good
  183. which would be why i didnt react the way you wanted
  184. Leila:
  185. I didn’t say I will never ever come back but I think that stepping down and leaving he servers completely is quite a massive indication that I stepped down and away from haven. You said for admins it was an everyday expectation and that isn’t something I can offer anymore. I wanted anything genuine
  186. I don’t want a response Bc I expected it
  187. Or thought it was right
  188. Even just leaving the servers is clearly a big deal. I don’t know how else or what other words or actions were necessary or needed to indicate what they did.
  189. And hearing that I should have known how you felt Bc you wrote me a recommendation also felt kind of bad
  190. Jessica Law:
  191. leila honey i cant
  192. everything i do hurts you
  193. Leila:
  194. Bc all I said what that it was hurtful and dismissive to not receive a response to what I wrote
  195. Ok
  196. I’m not painting you ill
  197. Jessica Law:
  198. its not meant to but it seems to always be that way
  199. Leila:
  200. Ok
  201. Jessica Law:
  202. you are tho
  203. and maybe you dont see it
  204. Leila:
  205. Saying that things are hurtful and I may not agree
  206. Doesn’t mean you are bad especially when I follow it with so many positives
  207. But perhaps it isn’t good for either of us
  208. Like you said
  209. And I am sorry for both of us that even this seems to be an argument and time consuming and all I would have liked is a response to what I wrote and the fact that I literally left the servers.
  210. You clearly are busy and have a lot going on
  211. And you feel that what I’ve said is unfair. I’m sorry you feel that way but I do want to make it evident how clearly I worked extremely hard with no expectation of any compensation. So I would like to not end on such a note. And I love you and want you to grow and build what you want and help people how you want.
  212. I only wish you the ultimate best in everything and reaching your goals how I have from the first time I met you
  213. I guess I shouldn’t have expected or felt bad about not getting a response. I think we see things differently. I don’t want that to result in bads
  214. I’ve made the decision which was best for me.
  215. Jessica Law:
  216. you did and i think it is wise
  217. Leila:
  218. I think you have made the decision of what’s best for you
  219. And it’s that simple
  220. Jessica Law:
  221. alright
  222. my mom is here
  223. Leila:
  224. Ok
  225. I’ll let you go
  226. Jessica Law:
  227. mean i’m around, just if it takes me a while
  228. Leila:
  229. Ok
  230. It’s all good
  231. Jessica Law:
  232. look bottom line even if i dont do everything right, im your friend
  233. and bc if that i always appreciate you
  234. no matter what
  235. Leila:
  236. Thanks Jess
  237. Same
  238. Hope you have a good rest of the day
  239. Jessica Law:
  240. wait
  241. u have to see
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  243. nnnngh
  244. Leila:
  245. Very cute
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