[4:29 AM]
ultipoop:
	I was going on one of my rants to boz about you and he rightfully said to talk to you directly instead of through him so here is a screenshot of said rant haha https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/225748034032500737/614420305343152148/Screenshot_20190823-042350_Discord.jpg?width=169&height=301
	Hmm that looks awful, try this one?
	https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/225748034032500737/614420305343152148/Screenshot_20190823-042350_Discord.jpg?width=324&height=576

[5:01 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	man
	you're a good person Ian
	so like.. try to imagine a bit
	it's not that i don't like ppl in that chat, it's just that i don't chat
	i don't use chatrooms, i don't talk much on forums.  when i do it's for moderation (and even then on Reddit i am recruiting new mods to do stuff)
	i talk to people individually.  i don't want the chat atmosphere anymore - it's not useful to me
	any group chat i do, is in -games-.
	and i want you to think about that for a bit.
	if there's time to chat with text
	and you want to just shoot the shit, see what everything's been like, how's everyone doing
	you play a game
	and chat with your buds
	it's pretty cool that ngsam turned into a Discord chat years later
	but i'm so uninterested in it - i didn't respect most people in the original ngsam
	but i respected you
	the chat isn't the thing, it's the damn connections you made
	fuck the room yo
	who cares about the room
	the people you care about, check in with em.
	i ain't the shit talker that was in ngsam 18 years ago
	and the people i care about from that chat - i have ties to them all, and ways to talk to them.
	.. actually, Nicole has a better tie to you as a connection on Facebook lol... cuz i don't use that anymore
	if you want something to copy paste
	just say WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
	Whitler will acknowledge it

[5:08 AM]
ultipoop:
	No one in there is the shit talker they were!

[5:08 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	but ya gotta acknowledge.. base connections that were never made, can't be made decades later
	I <3 you
	and i hated most of the chat in there

[5:09 AM]
ultipoop:
	I know I keep saying I'll stop bugging you and Boz about it, but I guess it's hard when you are sorely missing lol

[5:09 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	if there's a perception that i'm sorely missing, then maybe it's that no one is calling others out
	that's not a role i alone fulfill
	but i sure did back then
	who cares if people are older?
	if they do dumb things.. well.. try to nudge them not to
	it's the only role i can really imagine myself fulfilling in your mind
	i don't know what else i was, in your view.

[5:11 AM]
ultipoop:
	It's not because you call people out, it's just because topics come up that you'd have an opinion on and you aren't there!

[5:11 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	hahah
	well.. okay
	that's... that's acknowledgeable i guess

[5:12 AM]
ultipoop:
	Has Boz at least told you that it's different

[5:12 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	yes i know, people are older, talk is diff
	most invites are attributed to you etc
	tracking people down is a thing

[5:12 AM]
ultipoop:
	Haha

[5:12 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	that's cool, i respect it

[5:12 AM]
ultipoop:
	YOU WERE ALWAYS MY TOP PRIORITY TO GET IN THERE
	well, after Alagnos

[5:13 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	why do you think like that?

[5:13 AM]
ultipoop:
	Mostly because he's no where to be found and we assume the worst

[5:13 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	why do you think, "we need to get people in the ngsam discord"
	why is that your goal?

[5:13 AM]
ultipoop:
	Because you're an interesting voice
	Because I guess unlike you, I do like the chat atmosphere

[5:13 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	what's the purpose of putting the voices together, though?

[5:13 AM]
ultipoop:
	And the more in there, the merrier
	Because it's more to bounce off of

[5:14 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	the ngsam discord is an older, and more selective version of older chats

[5:14 AM]
ultipoop:
	More to read when you wake up in the morning

[5:14 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	did you ever ponder using a new system
	where new people could join?

[5:14 AM]
ultipoop:
	Also, I'm guessing EVERYONE in there would agree that it's better than ever

[5:14 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	perhaps a website, or a server, that had a presence inviting younger people?

[5:14 AM]
ultipoop:
	I've always been open to getting new people in there

[5:14 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	i mean i didn't want to be so frank
	but the ngsam discord is an old people circlejerk
	there's no real point to a chat without entry of new people.
	unless everyone wants to share old stories
	discuss old things
	argue about old things.
	you made a site a while ago

[5:15 AM]
ultipoop:
	I disagree,

[5:15 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	it addressed this very point

[5:15 AM]
ultipoop:
	There's tons of talk about what's going on right now

[5:15 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	it was a chat archive of sorts, but it had links to current chats

[5:15 AM]
ultipoop:
	In our lives, in the news, with new games or movies

[5:15 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	yes i know.
	but there's no entry point to new people
	so it's really not a chat..

[5:16 AM]
ultipoop:
	Of course we talk about old shit too

[5:16 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	it's just a reunion
	do you remember that site you made?

[5:16 AM]
ultipoop:
	OLD TIMES

[5:16 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	yeah.
	it archived lots of stuff from chats, but had links to all of the chats, too.
	maybe you should do something like that again.
	there's not much point of a real chat - as in, a chatroom where people can feel "new" things happen
	without new people
	i'm not talking about personal invites of chatters
	an entry point

[5:17 AM]
ultipoop:
	To me, ngsam is basically better than one on one because there's more voices and opinions

[5:18 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	yeah i know
	and that's really honest
	you have strong ties to a lot of the peeps in there

[5:18 AM]
ultipoop:
	I guess in my head I have trouble understanding why you don't just check it out instead of deciding you'll hate it
	You have discord

[5:18 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	i honestly don't get why you think it's weird for me to not join
	you knew me

[5:19 AM]
ultipoop:
	Well sure, but there was a good like 8 years where I didn't really go to ngsam

[5:19 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	why would i join ngsam again?
	that wasn't my good place
	each person i connected to in that chat, i kept ties with

[5:19 AM]
ultipoop:
	You don't have to stay forever, just check it out!

[5:19 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	haha
	damnit Ian
	you gotta put a little more .. uh..
	a little more strength into this :p
	i just don't care to do it. and i'm trying my best to explain why

[5:20 AM]
ultipoop:
	I'm not good at marketing

[5:20 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	it's not like i have some weird thing that's preventing me, i have no interest at all
	the newness of chatters
	was such an important and integral thing of chats like ngsam
	the core that stayed - sorta like bar regulars - were not why i was there.
	does that make any more sense?

[5:21 AM]
ultipoop:
	I see what you are saying, yes it's not a chat room that has new people
	To me, it's this, one on one
	But with more people
	If that makes sense

[5:22 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	and i acknowledge that
	yeah it does
	i've had that so many times over the years
	strongly, and better
	but it's not in "chats" per say
	groups that form... say, in games
	a project

[5:23 AM]
ultipoop:
	Sure but then you have to keep playing the same games all the time

[5:23 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	ill say again - all my discord stuff is basically moderating subreddits
	maybe i'm a lil tainted by that

[5:23 AM]
ultipoop:
	I don't have the time to play online games, but fortunately discord is there no matter what I am doing

[5:23 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	dude
	if you didn't chat in discord as much.. you could play games, and chat

[5:23 AM]
ultipoop:
	Haha
	That's so untrue

[5:24 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	think of our age, as well.
	we have more committments

[5:24 AM]
ultipoop:
	I have so little time with the kids

[5:24 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	younger peeps have time to chat in discord, game, and live life

[5:24 AM]
ultipoop:
	In fact I have to leave right now and take a shower and take my son to school

[5:24 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	ok yes that's what i was talking about
	hahaha
	yeah
	just..

[5:24 AM]
ultipoop:
	I DEFINITELY DO NOT HAVE TIME TO PLAY ONLINE GAMES

[5:24 AM]
float Crysalim;:
	think of your time in chunks, and how much you have to spare
	you do. you absolutely do!!
	in fact
	i think you shuttered your game time long ago
	for chatting
	does it not make sense, though?
	that you can play games, and chat, at the same time?
	you can get both urges?
	i'll level with you here
	you could Twitch stream a ff6 rom hack
	and Gau is a rockstar
	game revolves around him
	then, you can link it in the ngsam discord.
	suddenly
	you tied your chat to gaming
	i'll always get into this with you again and again.. cuz i respect the hell out of you
	but hey play some video games to talk about in the video game chat