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- complicated:
- brewmaster
- elder titan
- earth spirit
- phoenix
- underlord
- lone druid
- ember spirit
- broodmother
- meepo
- arc warden
- storm spirit
- tinker
- enchantress
- chen
- oracle
- techies
- invoker
- visage
- carries that are useless if they die a lot early:
- nightstalker
- doom
- lycan
- antimage
- phantom lancer
- faceless void
- phantom assassin
- spectre (very much so)
- medusa (very much so)
- arc warden
- outworld devourer
- good beginner heroes:
- sven
- sand king
- tidehunter
- wraith king
- abaddon
- vengeful spirit
- venomancer
- windranger
- crystal maiden (she dies real easy tho)
- jakiro
- ogre magi
- lich
- lion
- witch doctor
- warlock
- ancient apparition
- BALLER heroes:
- elder titan
- huskar
- sand king
- abaddon
- juggernaut
- razor
- venomancer
- silencer
- rubick
- ogre magi
- keeper of the light
- bane
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