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<Naed> Bfett / work work work
<Talvieno> Until we see Josh compile a list of exactly what needs to be finished, we won't be able to gauge, with any degree of accuracy, when he'll be done.
<TGS> The dev videos are great, but if you look at them from a distance... all of them. The first like 4-5 aren't even indicative to the current game because he had a complete rewrite between those and now.
<MarkTD> he did say he'd keep communication on the low which is a bit... :/
<TGS> Then you look at the rest and take out how much was "graphical" stuff... then take out the fact that he spent like 3 videos on very very very basic trade/AI
<Talvieno> I'm glad of that, actually, MarkTD.
<TGS> 2 or so videos on nodes which ended up being altered anyway...
<Talvieno> More time for LT.
<TGS> It leaves very little real solid ... anything.
<poet1960> he is prob pretty far, considering that a lot of the game is proceedural, so all thats needed for that is to write the code, after that the only things really left to do are the UI and some mechanics
<TGS> poet1960: I'm with you on that. That would be my guess. I'd say he's a lot farther than we've ever actually been allowed to see.
<BFett> http://forums.ltheory.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2154
<poet1960> i think so too
<MarkTD> I get you, but I still trust the guy :p
<Cornflakes> we all do
<TGS> I do too MarkTD. If I didn't I wouldn't be here still.
<Cornflakes> else we werent here :P
<MarkTD> flash frame high five in support of LT
<TGS> I'm just very pragmatic and I think given everything... if the game is gonna take another 6+ months to complete.
<TGS> We "the public" deserve to know where it is at.
<TGS> Will we get that? Who the hell knows lol.
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<TGS> But we do deserve it.
<MarkTD> agreed for the most part
<poet1960> i think only us cool people deserve it lol
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<MarkTD> still think he should do what he's comfortable with, but people do have a financial/emotional stake in the game now
<poet1960> the rest can go take a hike
<TGS> LOL poet1960
<Talvieno> XD
<poet1960> people like abh only deserve a swift kick in the ass
<MarkTD> abh?
<Cornflakes> abh challenger
<Cornflakes> an now ex member of the community
<Cornflakes> was pretty.... caustic
<TGS> MarkTD: Well before I understood his reasoning for not giving that information. But now I think it would be productive both for him and for us to get a gauge of completion. Not necessarily a time line but just something we can see what is/isn't done.
<Cornflakes> basically "i want my game and i want it now, i dont care about your illnesss josh"
<TGS> Even if it is a user-friendly translation of his "master plan"
<MarkTD> aka twat
<Cornflakes> yesw
<Cornflakes> yes
<BFett> Josh "should" be done with LT by January
<poet1960> "The bad news for you all is that, much like a more traditional developer, I won't be posting logs every day or posting constantly to the forums. I also won't be sharing too many details, screenshots, or videos until I've reached solid checkpoints and am ready to do so. I'm going to play this last stretch pretty close to the chest. Ultimately, that's both for the sake of me as well as for the sake of the final quality of LT
<poet1960> :)"