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- wolf vs kirb
- r1 kirb
- * cosmo is faster than fang - akoya scaling
- * adam and akoya have better feats than fang, cosmo tanks that
- * fang loses first move versus grappling
- * cosmo grapple gooder than okubo or hatsumi
- * cosmo can switch up grappling mid-grapple
- * cosmo wins by simply beginning the fight in a good hold then keeping it up until fang dies
- r1 wolf
- * fang possesses numerous advantages over cosmo narratively and featswise
- * fang's precog scales absurdly above cosmo's, fang's landing first hit
- * cosmo may be fast, but he struggles to actually dodge fast blows
- * fang is big, fang is strong
- * fang is stronger than people who scale to cosmo
- * just being in fang's massive range is deadly
- * fang has big grip strength
- * fang has far more combat experience
- * fang's skill advantage is completely overwhelming
- * like jfc
- * fang is doing more damage to cosmo than vice versa, is constantly evolving, and keeps the match on standing
- * okubo and hatsumi scaling is inapplicable
- * minor advantages pressed - cosmo is wearing clothes, akoya is a jobber
- r2 kirb
- * builds don't exist, mainly due to haruo
- * weight doesn't exist, mainly due to haruo
- * provides counterexamples, ohma beats big man, cosmo could beat big man
- * foresight =/= pre-initiative
- * hatsumi scaling is still applicable, ohma is slower than cosmo
- * hatsumi weak, thus fang weak
- * okubo being more durable is an assertion w/o evidence
- * gaolang, hatsumi, and kuroki also suck, so fang has 0 strength
- * combat experience doesn't matter, counterexamples provided
- * gaolang is barely <fang, cosmo is faster than gaolang significantly - long min scaling
- * cosmo dodged all of akoya's attacks, gaolang's punches are vaguely faster and most hit fang, there is a large speed gap
- r2 wolf
- lol
- * builds are real, gives in-story evidence
- * scaling for fang provided
- * haruo point is dumb, fat =/= muscle
- * there exists context as to why some people are stronger despite being smaller
- * deva example is dumb due to speed
- * koga example is dumb due to skill
- * whether its pre-initiative and foresight doesn't matter, fang is landing first punch
- * hatsumi antifeat doesn't work because dodge good
- * combat experience counterexamples all bad due to context
- * long min scaling bad because cosmo dodges before it happens
- * the akoya-gaolang comparison doesn't work due to gaolang's massive skill advantage
- final tally
- * cosmo is faster
- * fang hits hard enough to significantly hurt cosmo and beat him in a few blows
- * fang is significantly more skilled than cosmo
- * irregardless of speed fang can land the first hits
- Pretty clear cut honestly, almost everything Kirb said Wolf rebutted with more than adequate evidence. Fang punches Cosmo first then dominates the fight from there even before he begins evolving.
- Wolf wins.
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