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- infspire
- I've been thinking a little about loveleigh's claim earlier that my hypothetical was favoring utilitarianism over deontology.
- infspire
- It feels like there may be truth to that.
- 02:39 infspire
- My current feeling is that I continue to like my position, but that the entity I am criticizing is the paradigm of deontology, at least in this context, as opposed to 'irrational utilitarianism'.
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- Which is a much more fundamental conflict.
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- I'm thinking that a lot of people who espouse the view I've described won't be too knowledgable about deontology, you can argue they're still 'acting it out' and, especially considering a steelmanned version of their position, one is then required to deal with the full historical-philosophical force of the deontological paradigm.
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- while a lot*
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- To clarify, I'd define my current ethics as constrained utilitarianism, where the constraints come from rights constructs. Ethics is understood as a computational problem that is probably in a complexity class of NP-Complete or above, i.e. ethical solution will be approximate. The approximate algorithms we should employ fundamentally must balance an emphasis on the local while also reflecting deeply on global imp
- infspire
- lications. The local emphasis is accomplished through rights, and the global implications are driven by Kantian thinking, i.e. I leverage deontology as an important component of my ethical thinking, ultimately rooted inside a utilitarian framework.
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- Created at: Jul 11, 2001 at 1:36 PM
- infspire
- While I have explicitly stated that the top-level framework is utilitarian, that's probably not the case across all ethical problems. Ethics is a very deep computational space, and so I cannot fully describe how my ethical processes interact with that space. I am inclined to say that in some context, there's essentially no utilitarian calculations and it's almost exclusively rights-based. In other contexts, I am
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- inclined to say it is almost exclusively Kantian. The general case features those as subordinate to utilitarian calculations, though.
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