Parf's reasons for being a Trump supporter

Parf
4 more years, baby
19:29 infspire
Parf: Are you a Trump supporter?
Parf
i prefer trump to biden, yes
Ana_Ng
yes
19:30 infspire
Parf: On a range of 0-100, how would you rate Trump's performance thus far?
Parf
probably a 37?
infspire
What do you prefer about Trump to Biden?
Parf
mainly personal characteristics
infspire
A famously strong area for Trump, no doubt.
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infspire
Psychologists are always calling me up -- tears in their eyes -- saying, "Sir, I just think Trump has some really strong interpersonal skills -- I just like him, ya know?"
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Parf: Which personal characteristics of Trump do you find most admirable, of the admittedly very large set to choose from.
Ana_Ng
you are welcome.
Parf
i like that he apparently is a teetotaler
Parf
oh god, it's horrible
infspire
As far as I know, it is true is a teetotaler.
infspire
Now, are you aware Biden is also a teetotaler?
Parf
he exudes nouveau rice
infspire
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/11/joe-biden-not-cool/355346/
Parf
*riche
infspire
Alcohol and drugs: 0. Biden is an avowed teetotaler. He told The New York Times in 2008, "There are enough alcoholics in my family." To be clear: this is a bold and admirable stance! But it wouldn't have made him cool in high school. At least, not in high school in the 1960s or 1970s.
Parf
that's a good thing, i suppose
infspire
Is your nouveau riche comment the second thing you like about his interpersonal qualities?
Parf
no, his fashion is horrible
Parf
his charisma is another story
infspire
Okay, so, 1) teetotaler and 2) charisma.
Parf
i mean, not horrible, it's just, not well blended and regnant as it should be, i dunno
Parf
also he reminds me of my grandfather, biden reminds me of my grandfather after death began to loom
infspire
I agree that Donald Trump has a reputation for being perceived as highly charismatic by white supremacists, used car salesman, and people being conned by him at Trump University.
Parf
basically, my grandfather is running the country right now
Parf
and i'm comfortable with that
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What makes Donald Trump charismatic?
Parf
he's brave
Parf
old school virtues are hard to parse for the modern mind, sometimes
Parf
for mine at least
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"He’s bleeding all over the place, I felt terrible. You know, beautiful marble floor, didn’t look like it. It changed color. Became very red." - Donald Trump
Parf
it's brave to admit that he felt terrible
schlonger
Who to vote for is simple. Do you hate Nazi's? That's all you gotta ask yourself.
infspire
In what way is Donald Trump brave?
infspire
He felt terrible for the marble floor.*
Parf
i'd feel terrible for my marble floor too
infspire
It's a famous anecdote by him in which he reveals his psychopathy without intending to.
Parf
psychopathy?
schlonger
What's worse than a Nazi? A mother fucking orange Nazi.
infspire
Parf: Donald Trump is a psychopath -- correct.
infspire
In what way is Donald Trump brave?
infspire
Mary Trump indicates he's probably been psychopathic since hew as a young child.
infspire
He's clearly been a psychopath for his entire public career going back to at least the 1970s.
Parf
he takes risks that have been seemingly at the edge of a razor for quite some time, i mean this guy was a wwe contender
infspire
His psychopathy is probably one of the reasons you find him charismatic.
Parf
i bet you wouldn't get in the wwe ring
infspire
Most likely because you score reasonably high on Dark Triad qualities and he gives you permission to like those qualities about yourself.
Parf
no, i'm not quite into that,
Parf
i like my president to be though
infspire
Sure, you don't want to be a psychopath, you just wish to be lead by them.
Parf
at least insofar as i can tolerate him to be
infspire
Totally normal.
Parf
well, what choice do i have
Parf
to be led by one psychopath or another
Parf
i must choose whichever i prefer
infspire
Parf: What is an example of Trump taking a risk "at the edge of a razor for quite some time".
Parf
lovable grandpa psychopath type, or creepy grandpa psychopath type
Parf
no thanks
Parf
being in the wwe
Parf
running for president
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Parf: To be clear, you're highlighting his participation in the staged WWE event as an example of his bravery?
Parf
yes
Parf
coulda ruined him
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Parf: Are you conducting false flag operations on Donald Trump supporters?
Parf
wtf?
Parf
i'm not even sure what the hell you're asking me
infspire
Parf: Are you impersonating a Trum supporter to mock them.
Parf
no
schlonger
Show me someone voting for that orange mother fucker, and I'll show you a goddamn bigot.
infspire
Again, participating in a staged WWE event is an example of bravery.
Parf
i just don't care much and like trump more than most people
Parf
politically
infspire
This was after he had run for present several times and lost each time, right?
Parf
yeah, it's brave to keep trying
Parf
even when you might fail
schlonger
Orange people are the worst fucking bigots.
infspire
After that, politically, it was brave of him to get paid lots of money by WWE and gain high exposure in a large-scale media operation because it could hurt his political reputation.
Parf
especially when you manage to succeed
infspire
After repeatedly losing at becoming president to that point.
Parf
yes
Parf
exactly
infspire
He had so much to lose, politically, right.
Parf
he did, yes, relatively speaking, and not just politically, as an image
Parf
i mean, no one would think of trump tower trump in the ring
Parf
this guy used to own the arenas for mike tyson bouts, in the wwe ring? it's just outrageous. anyway
Parf
i'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish by this conversation
infspire
It was very brave.
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Parf: I am temporary probing your psychology.
Parf
oh are ye now
schlonger
You're just another goddamn fascist who wants to debate everything.
infspire
I know that 100% of Trump supporters have profound pathology.
infspire
I'm curious how that pathology takes form in you.
Parf
i wouldn't doubt that i'm profund
Parf
*profound
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Parf: If I do a really bad job, should I get fired?
Parf
maybe
infspire
Like, say I'm a bartender and I accidentally poison 437 people at our establishment.
infspire
And three of them die.
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Should I be fired?
Parf
maybe
infspire
So, not for sure.
Parf
no, not for sure, no.
Parf
depends, on a lot of factors
infspire
If the bartender trainer tells me, "Never, ever put these compounds in the drinks -- they're poison."
Parf
say he worked for me 20 years, never robbed me, never hurt me
Parf
took care of my kids a few times
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And then, later, I put those compounds in the drinks and three people die.
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Should I be fired?
Parf
maybe
infspire
What if I killed 300 patrons?
Parf
if it's intentional, with the intent to harm three people
infspire
Should I be fired?
Parf
that seems like beyond the point of unintentional
Parf
that's serving repeated mistaken drinks to 300 people?
infspire
What if the compound I put in the drinks has huge letters that says, "Don't put in DRINKS!!"
infspire
But I did it anyways because reading is for pussies.
infspire
And on a blog post I maintain it says, "I hate pussies. Pussies read books."
Parf
yeah i'd probably fire you then
infspire
And when asked about what happened, I say, "I don't read 'warning' labels. Stop being a pussy."
infspire
Okay.
infspire
What if I kill 175,000 people because I won't do the right things to stop the COVID-19 pandemic.
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And when asked about it I say, "I take no responsibility."
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And that "Maybe masks work, maybe they don't."
Parf
i'm not able to equivocate those two incidents
Parf
there's a direct responsibility in one instance
infspire
Should I stay on my job for another four years?
Parf
in the other? meh
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Parf
in this instance, i stand by my former stance as a trump supporter even in the context of this conversation
infspire
Parf: Say I intentionally destroy the White House Pandemic Response Team.
Parf
regardless of what conclusions you come to about that
infspire
That was created by the previous bartender to help keep poisons out of drinks.
infspire
But I say, "That's for pussies."
infspire
Should I get fired?
Parf
say your actions by some freak occurrence saved 700 people but killed 300
schlonger
The only blue lives that really matter are post office workers.
Parf shrugs
Parf
hypothetical instances abound, say there are aspects of this you are not aware of
infspire
Parf: How many lives has Trump actually saved, along with the 175,000 deaths, because of COVID-19?
Parf
who knows
infspire
So you have no evidence this applies whatsoever?
infspire
You're just kind of fabricating it to obfuscate the incompetence?
Parf
personally, bbbuni
Parf
yeah pretty much, i like a good narrative, inf
infspire
Parf: Can you see that you've clearly not told me your actual reasons for liking Trump.
infspire
Because all the reasons you've provided are clearly not strong reasons.
infspire
So, you have other, hidden reasons, that are your true reasons.
Parf
i did tell you, i like him because he reminds me of my grandpa. that's about it
infspire
Either you're not sharing them with us, or you don't know what they are.
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Parf
you can't have a simpler reason than that
infspire
Parf: Was your grandpa fit to be President of the United States?
Parf
yeah, i sure thought so
infspire
I believe you.
infspire
Alright, for as long as there is a Trump in office, I will not dialogue with you.
infspire
Take care.