Akai Nukes Talk

12:40		*** Llama joined #sondria
12:40	Llama	I have to relocate in 20 minutes
12:42	Tits	Crontor
12:43	Crontor	sorry
12:43	Crontor	i was talking
12:43	Crontor	wats up
12:43	Crontor	whats the issue with you too
12:44	Crontor	two
12:44	Llama	Nothing really
12:44	Llama	Tits is not willing to adapt to my region's rules and standards
12:44	Llama	that's really the gist of it
12:44	Llama	we have a policy against nuclear proliferation, he understood that this demand could be made of him when he joined
12:45	Crontor	what are the regional rules regarding nukes
12:45	Tits	There were no rules against this that were ever made apparent. This was only brought up very recently.
12:45	Llama	only 4 nations are allowed
12:45	Llama	you agreed to when youa greed to alter canon to meet ours
12:45	Llama	so I have no reason to defend myself here
12:45	Llama	we have rules
12:45	Llama	you must follow them
12:45	Llama	or leave
12:45	Llama	it's fairly simple
12:45	Crontor	Is there a written constitution somewhere?
12:45	Crontor	tits stop talking for a bit
12:45	Crontor	let me talk to yalos
12:46	Crontor	I like you both and dont like you two fighting
12:46	Llama	It's not outlined in our constitution, but we do have a lot of rules and expectations beyond that regarding a variety of issues
12:47	Llama	And yes, perhaps he might have not known coming in
12:47	Llama	but he did agree to alter canon
12:47	Llama	if he's not okay with that
12:47	Llama	he is free to leave, as I have suggested
12:47	Crontor	Okay, and what is the rational for who can and cannot have nukes
12:48	Llama	the entirety of the regional chat opposes him getting nukes
12:48	Llama	current nuclear powers are the established super powers and 2 big great powers
12:48	Tits	Not the entirety of the chat
12:48	Llama	all 4 of whom have been in the region since I first joined like 4 years ago
12:48	Llama	Tits, nobody is on your side literally
12:48	Tits	But not everyone is against me either
12:48	Llama	Don't try to paint it as if anybody agrees with you
12:49	Llama	oh boy, somebody isn't actively chatting rn
12:49	Tits	Which I am not
12:49	Llama	virtually everybody who is afk is not Ordic member yet, or has complained behind your back
12:49	Crontor	well Tits
12:49	Crontor	unfortunately it looks like you will have to make a choice here
12:49	Crontor	although Yalos, in the future, maybe you should put that rule to paper
12:49	Tits	I am willing to accommodate on issues that do not blow up my entire canon
12:50	Llama	okay, and that's fine
12:50	Crontor	so that people do not get confused
12:50	Llama	but if you cannot accomodate to us, you do unfortunately have to leave
12:50	Llama	as regrettable as it may be
12:50	Tits	That is one of the few things that I cannot budge on
12:50	Llama	Then
12:50	Llama	we have offered you the option
12:50	Tits	I mean pretty much anything but that
12:50	Llama	to leave the region
12:50	Llama	Otherwise
12:50	Llama	work with us
12:50	Llama	we offered you all sorts of alternatives
12:50	Tits	Which is what I am trying to do.
12:50	Llama	biochemical weapons
12:51	Llama	superior military force
12:51	Tits	But none of them are satisfactory
12:51	Tits	As the do not achieve the same effect.
12:51	Crontor	Well tits, why are nuclear weapons so vital to your nation
12:51	Llama	every time we suggest something, you say that your canon cannot adapt to it
12:51	Llama	that's not adapting
12:51	Crontor	Tits, on some level you have to accommodate the rules of the game
12:51	Tits	Yes and I have done that
12:51	Crontor	like people coming into Sondria have to adopt our canon history
12:51	Crontor	they cant pretend Newcastle didnt happen
12:52	Tits	I suggested that for example I am willing to drop down the GDP to address balance issues
12:52	Tits	To a lower number
12:52	Llama	and we deemed that insatisfactory
12:52	Llama	at least, not to the levels you're willing to fall
12:52	Tits	And this is on top the several systemic issues that exist in Akai
12:52	Llama	which exist in virtually every other Ordic nation
12:53	Llama	Listen tits, it's real simple
12:53	Tits	Yeah I am not willing to become the DPRK because that also wrecks canon
12:53	Llama	at a very fundamental level
12:53	Tits	It is not simple you are oversimplifying it
12:53	Llama	you have to budge on this
12:53	Llama	or leave
12:53	Llama	there is no in between
12:53	Llama	we are not staisfiable in any other way
12:53	Tits	There is a third possibility that you adapt
12:53	Llama	no
12:53	Llama	we will not
12:53	Tits	Why not?
12:53	Llama	we are not adapting just for you
12:54	Tits	I have seen no reason why not.
12:54	Crontor	Tits you are asking the whole region to adapt for your canon
12:54	Llama	we have not adapted for anybody else
12:54	Crontor	that is a bit unfair
12:54	Tits	Not the whole region
12:54	Llama	we are not adapting our entire region for your canon
12:54	Tits	All I would do is exist.
12:54	Llama	which you can easily change
12:54	Llama	but refuse to
12:54	Tits	I have not seen how it reworks the entire region
12:54	Crontor	that would be like requesting the Sondria do away with the Marq-Crontorian wars
12:54	Crontor	because they want regional peace
12:54	Llama	Listen Tits, I believe I'm done here
12:54	Tits	Yeah and Akai is not a threat to that
12:54	Llama	I've made it very clear
12:54	Llama	you can change, or you can leave
12:54	Llama	we are not all changing our established rules just for you
12:54	Llama	That's all I have to say
12:54	Tits	You are characterizing this entirely incorrectly.
12:54	Llama	You deal with it however you will