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- CURRENT ninetailedTiring [CNT] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
- CNT: I hope you're aware, this is the only active memo.
- CURRENT matronlyTriggerwoman [CMT] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
- CMT: I am *very* aware. I *run* it. I do pay attention, you know.
- CNT: And that means, by default, it's my only place to pass my time.
- CMT: That's really not our problem, Love.
- CMT: Sorry, Jude, rather.
- CNT: Funny, another memo owner hates me.
- CMT: This isn't hatred, it's recognition that you really don't belong here.
- CURRENT absoluteIntrovert [CAI] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
- CAI: It's sincerely not fair to say people hate you.
- CAI: You fail to meet the required standard.
- CAI: I said that until you can meet that standard, you can't play.
- CAI: You chose to leave the Discord instead, indicating you have no desire to improve on the issue.
- CNT: The required standard, having a good character?
- CNT: Good luck with that.
- CMT: Everyone else manages just fine.
- CNT: I hope you have a terrible day.
- CNT ceased responding to memo.
- CMT: Wonderfully petty of them.
- CAI: Shrugs
- CAI: If it was good characters being a requirement we'd have kicked a lot more people
- CAI: She just has NOTHING... jeez
- CURRENT venalEnterprise [CVE] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
- CVE: WELL...
- CVE: so how is everyone today?
- CCD: absolutely flabbergasted
- CURRENT paperBag [CPB] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
- CPB: - can i do the thing tho
- CVE: do it coward
- CPB: :popcorn:
- CMT: I mean it's more like "passable" than "good"
- CNB ceased responding to memo.
- CURRENT fluffyLove [CFL] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
- CFL: No, you know what?
- CFL: I don't care what you think, cause YOU'RE the ones in the wrong.
- CFL: You got mad at me over an inconsistent character, someone who's always changing.
- CMT: Mmmm.
- CMT: That's really funny.
- CFL: That's childish, and if you can't grow up, then why are you able to own a memo?
- CMT: Firstly, I'm not mad, secondly, it's not childish to expect competent roleplay from memogoers.
- CFL: Stagnant, stale characters aren't fun. That makes the roleplay bland. While you're at it, go grow a pair.
- CMT: People who can't meet standards take other people out of the mood.
- CAI: Ahem.
- CMT: This is actually really funny, Kindra, let them keep going
- CMT: I'm interested in this
- CAI: There's nothing stagnant about knowing what can a character do.
- CAI: There's nothing fun about characters that jsut lul look at me I'm a small child pokemon but I wanna get fucked also I can take my head off wink wonk
- CAI: That shit's straight uncomfortable
- -- CURRENT calculatedDeception [CCD] popcorn --
- CFL: I don't have to meet your standards to have a good character.
- CAI: And it's also even moreso unfun when you can't explain anything aobut the character
- CAI: My standards is the *absolute minimum* of *any* character, good or bad
- CAI: I asked that you provide basic info
- CAI: You chose to leave.
- CMT: It really doesn't matter. Calling Love a character is generous.
- CAI: Then you come back and expects no consequences for that. I'm sorry, but that's how a child thinks.
- CFL: I gave all the info I am. Do I look like Alexander fucking Hamilton?
- CAI: What info?
- CAI: I recall Midna asking you some basic info for them
- CAI: and your exact response was
- CAI: "Hell if I know"
- CFL: Exactly. Am I a writer? No. Am I consistent? No. Grow up, grow a pair, and get some common fucking sense.
- CAI: I...
- CAI: Are you unaware that to roleplay, you're writing?
- CURRENT patrioticEruption [CPE] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
- CPE: Jude is this really your attempt at fixing previous mistakes? Because you know it's possible you could be banned from Library too from this, are you sure you want things to be this way?
- CMT: Jude, how old are you?
- CMT: Or I guess, how old are you going to claim you are?
- CFL: That's two different goddamn things! Sure, you see me screwing around with a fictional creature, but do you see me writing Shakespeare? No.
- CAI: I'm not asking you to write Shakespeare, I'm asking you to have a basic character outline you're working from.
- CURRENT kaleidoSorcerer [CKS] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
- CKS: ...
- CURRENT amnesiacMorbiferon [CAM] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
- CAM: may i ask a couple questions, or is that out of line?
- CVE: ^
- CMT: This is really an open forum by now, IMO
- CKS: There's no reason to *discuss* any of this at this point, bluntly. We don't *have* to sit here and justify our rules to someone who is just being insulting.
- CMT: Oh no, we don't have to
- CKS: Anyone else who wants to chime in, go for it, but.
- CMT: But I'm legitimately curious how deep this rabbit hole goes
- CAM: i just wanna know how long they've been rping for?
- CVE: Okay! So. In my personal opinion. There is no point in getting involved with or getting attached to a character when everything you know about them is liable to change overnight.
- CVE: Because even if I liked Love, you would be liable to remove everything I like about them at a moment's notice.
- CMT: So again, how old are you, Jude.
- CFL: Justify your rules? I see no rules stating anything about consistency!
- CAM: i think thats part of rule 7 in ic memo rules
- CVE: Having a really inconsistent character is generally seen as a sign of incompetence.
- CVE: A familiar face- A familiar name- An unchanged objective:
- CFL: Bull!
- CVE: ...who was punished severance again?
- CPE: Chris efhweuoghe
- CPE: Exodus
- CCD: rip
- CVE: It shows you don't really know what you want to do with the character, and can't make up your mind.
- CPE: Jude, can I ask you a question? This whole thing resonates with me pretty deeply, and reminds me of stuff from long ago
- CVE: okay I thought so but I tried to click his ref to be sure and THEN IT DIDN'T TELL ME...
- CPE: His ability went through the 4th wall what the fuck
- CFL: Prove to me, in whatever way you can, that inconsistency is incompetent?
- CKS: Lemme cut to the chase here Love: Multiple people have stated that they were avoiding RP while Love was around.
- CFL: Oh wait, I just remembered.
- CFL: You can't prove anything.
- CPE: Okay so Jude: What you're doing right now is basically what made me infamous for /years/ on pesterchum way back in 2012-2013. So far I hear you came barging back in here, nuts out, and have gone on this tangent of yours in disagreement with the rules. I have to legitimately ask: Is this how you want to be remembered?
- CKS: Their presence was annoying and ruined the tone and style of the RP, because people in Aperture expect a certain level of seriousness and drama and the like in their RP.
- CPE: Believe me, I was perma-banned from /8/ or so memos way back for this same type of behavior.
- CKS: This is all totally subjective, obviously. It's impossible to prove ANYTHING related to any form of art is 'bad' or 'good'.
- CVE: well yes it's all a very subjective thing. but the thing is, objectively, the majority of people here (including the people who keep the venue in order) like writing a coherent story when they rp.
- CKS: But one way or another, Love doesn't fit in, and we're under no particular obligation to keep Love around when their presence is annoying people.
- CCD: we say "up to standard", but we really mean meet the standard that everyone else is keeping
- CVE: the story can't be coherent if one of the characters gets retconned constantly.
- CPE: I really think you should take a step back and reconsider what you're doing right now. If you don't care about sticking around on Pesterchum anymore then I guess.. It doesn't matter as much? But with how few memos there are these days this is a good way of killing your opportunity of ever being able to fit into the community again. Or it'll take a ton of time for reform.
- CFL: Love doesn't fit in? What a nice reason to hate her.
- CURRENT hallowedBovine [CHB] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
- CHB: All i will sday is I've elft because even in a light hearted moement, I'm in no real mood to have my huge angry bull deal with a talking pokemon.
- CPE: Note: Some of the people I fucked up with back in 2011/2012 /still/ don't like me.
- CFL: Grow up. Nobody should fit in.
- CKS: You *do* realize that saying "grow up" is just gonna get you banned, right?
- CFL: It's twenty-fucking-nineteen.
- CURRENT celestialCemetary [CCC] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
- CCC: anyone in this thread smoak wheat
- CCD: it's not just the character that isn't fitting in, it's your entire writing style that isn't fitting in here
- CPE: Jude, stop being an angsty, edgy teenager and just give yourself some time to cool off.
- CAM: maybe you should grow up and learn to take constructive criticism
- CKS: Seriously, we ain't obligated to deal with anyone we don't want to.
- CVE: I don't like her, personally, because she's a talking flareon that swears a lot and has no other consistent traits I could appreciate about her.
- CKS: 2019 is not a year in which everyone is magically required by law to associate with everyone else who wants to associate with them.
- CCD: a lot of love's traits feel very much "for the sake of"
- CAM: ITS THE CURRENT YEEEAAARRRR
- CVE: I only mention the first few things because those are the only consistent character traits...AND EVEN THEN...
- CPE: I kid you not I /will/ have you banned from Library as well if you make 0 effort to acknowledge why you're in the wrong right now. But you don't /have/ to be, you an suck it up, grow up, and realize you're being irrational right now, and you can improve from here.
- CPE: Or you can keep doing what you're doing and get banned I guess?
- CKS: PRESENT DAY
- CKS: HAHAHAH
- CKS: PRESENT TIME
- CPE: >CURRENT YEAR
- CVE: Like. I cannot enjoy interacting with a character who is redesigned at the whim of their rper every 5 hours.
- CFL: I give up on you fucks. Fine, go have your bleak roleplay. I'll be off having fun.
- CPE: Jude, did you just read over everything I typed?
- CPE: You /won't/ be having fun.
- CPE: Because you'll be banned from the /only/ active memos.
- CPE: And if you go to any others you will undoubtably be banned /again/ for this behavior.
- -- CURRENT kaleidoSorcerer [CKS] snerk --
- CCC banned CFL from responding to memo: [Competency, Threw a fit when asked to improve. (absoluteIntrovert)].
- CKS: Man that line was...
- CKS: Impressively 13?
- CCD: i'm glad pchum is a much more tightly knit community than it used to be
- CPE: To the like 2 people present who knew me back during 2011-2013
- CPE: I'm so sorry for ever being like that lol
- CAM: was thinking more 11, but i have a long history of angst
- CCD: considering the usage of full grammar and the repetitive phrases
- CCD: i'd like to assume their hands were shaking for the duration of this
- CCD: good riddance
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