[15:17] <@Charmander> oh ok quiggle
[15:17] <@Charmander> I can help you with that
[15:17] <@Charmander> do you have any ideas for a team?
[15:17] <quiggle> I want something that isn't used, or underrated to get a spotlight. Like Corphish :I
[15:18] <quiggle> I already made a successful Munch team
[15:18] <@Charmander> wait
[15:18] <@Charmander> are you the one who used curselax
[15:18] <@Charmander> and destroyed me on the ladder with it
[15:18] <quiggle> no
[15:18] <@Charmander> ok good cause that was embarrassing
[15:18] <quiggle> Sub Punch mega munch :3
[15:19] <@Charmander> corphish is alright, but personally I don't really think it's strong enough to sweep anything even after it boosts
[15:19] <@Charmander> lc is really centralized so it's hard to find underused mons that are still viable :(
[15:19] <quiggle> hrmm
[15:19] <@Charmander> if you want a good DD sweeper axew is probably your best bet
[15:19] <@Charmander> that isn't scraggy
[15:19] <quiggle> Munch is viable ;~;
[15:19] <@Charmander> but if you have your mind set on corphish we can probably make something good
[15:19] <@Charmander> yeah munch is viable for sure
[15:20] <quiggle> I thought about making TR, then I was like, Lolnope, TR isn't super viable in LC
[15:20] <@Charmander> it can actually ohko mienfoo at +2 which is ridiculous
[15:20] <@Charmander> yeah tr is awful
[15:20] <@Charmander> lol
[15:20] <quiggle> here's my laddering alt's ranks
[15:20] <quiggle> 15	DoYouSeeWhatLC	2023	90.7	2094 ± 51
[15:20] <@Charmander> if you want to use something like corphish tirtouga and axew are way better and play pretty similarly
[15:21] <@Charmander> and are still pretty underused
[15:21] <quiggle> yeh
[15:21] <@Charmander> so who do you want to start off with then
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[15:22] <quiggle> Well here's a Poke I've always wanted to work with, but croagunk and any other fighting pririty destroys it: Omanyte
[15:22] <quiggle> *priority
[15:23] <@Charmander> omanyte is pretty good
[15:23] <@Charmander> you can make that work
[15:23] <quiggle> yeh
[15:23] <@Charmander> you can probably pair it with mukrow to kill timburr/croagunk/mienfoo
[15:24] <@Charmander> or maybe like
[15:24] <@Charmander> shelmet
[15:24] <@Charmander> cause shelmet can spike and take hits from fighting-type mons
[15:24] <quiggle> yeh
[15:25] <@Charmander> and my suggestion to complete that little core would be drilbur
[15:25] <@Charmander> to take electric/rock moves
[15:25] <@Charmander> and spin stealth rock so shelmet can switch in a lot more easily
[15:25] <@Charmander> plus set up your own sr
[15:25] <quiggle> yeh
[15:25] <@Charmander> do those 3 sound good so far?
[15:25] <quiggle> yes
[15:25] <@Charmander> alright so now that you have a core you should focus on checknig threats
[15:26] <@Charmander> the big ones are probably scraggy, mienfoo, murkrow, misdreavus, snover, and sand
[15:26] <@Charmander> shelmet covers scraggy and mienfoo
[15:26] <@Charmander> omanyte can switch into krow but can't recover so you should get something else
[15:26] <@Charmander> do you have any ideas?
[15:26] <quiggle> any ideas 4 wut?
[15:27] <@Charmander> mons to check the threats I mentioned
[15:27] <quiggle> hrmm
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[15:28] <@Charmander> there is a pokemon that can check murkrow, misdreavus, and snover pretty well
[15:28] <@Charmander> although it's pretty important to realize these things on your own when you build a team
[15:28] <@Treecko> I know it :o
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[15:29] <quiggle> mmkay, I'm thunking what would check and have good psynergy with the team so far
[15:29] <quiggle> mmkay, I'm thunking what would check and have good psynergy with the team so far
[15:29] <@Charmander> well the mon I was thinking of is porygon
[15:29] <@Charmander> well the mon I was thinking of is porygon
[15:29] <@Charmander> it's never 2hkod by blizzard, brave bird, or hp fighting
[15:29] <@Charmander> it's never 2hkod by blizzard, brave bird, or hp fighting
[15:29] <@Charmander> it's just really bulky and shelmet covers fighting-types
[15:29] <@Charmander> it's just really bulky and shelmet covers fighting-types
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[15:29] <@Charmander> so I think pory would be a good addition to your team
[15:29] <@Charmander> so I think pory would be a good addition to your team
[15:29] <@Charmander> what do you think?
[15:29] <@Charmander> what do you think?
[15:30] <quiggle> I think that would work well
[15:30] <quiggle> I think that would work well
[15:30] <@Charmander> awesome
[15:30] <@Charmander> awesome
[15:30] <@Charmander> so you have porygon shelmet omanyte drilbur
[15:30] <@Charmander> so you have porygon shelmet omanyte drilbur
[15:31] <@Charmander> you still need to check sand, and you should have a fast scarfer as backup to in case stuff like clamperl sets up
[15:31] <@Charmander> you still need to check sand, and you should have a fast scarfer as backup to in case stuff like clamperl sets up
[15:31] <@Charmander> so I think you should dedicate the last two slots to those roles
[15:31] <@Charmander> so I think you should dedicate the last two slots to those roles
[15:31] <@Charmander> mons that come to mind for me are scarf snover to check sand or eviolite slowpoke
[15:31] <@Charmander> mons that come to mind for me are scarf snover to check sand or eviolite slowpoke
[15:31] <quiggle> yes
[15:31] <quiggle> yes
[15:31] <quiggle> thought the same here
[15:31] <quiggle> thought the same here
[15:31] <@Charmander> and as a fast mon maybe scarf murkrow, scarf missy, or scarf mienfoo
[15:31] <@Charmander> and as a fast mon maybe scarf murkrow, scarf missy, or scarf mienfoo
[15:31] <@Charmander> which ones do you like?
[15:31] <@Charmander> which ones do you like?
[15:32] <quiggle> I have a specially based mixscarf set that I like to use
[15:32] <quiggle> I have a specially based mixscarf set that I like to use
[15:32] <quiggle> for murkrow
[15:32] <quiggle> for murkrow
[15:32] <@Charmander> go for it then
[15:32] <@Charmander> go for it then
[15:32] <@Charmander> im a huge fan of scarfkrow personally
[15:32] <@Charmander> im a huge fan of scarfkrow personally
[15:33] <@Charmander> that's what I would use on this team
[15:33] <@Charmander> that's what I would use on this team
[15:33] <quiggle> mmkay
[15:33] <quiggle> mmkay
[15:33] <@Charmander> and probably snover to round things out
[15:33] <@Charmander> and probably snover to round things out
[15:33] <quiggle> yup
[15:33] <quiggle> yup
[15:33] <@Charmander> alright
[15:33] <@Charmander> alright
[15:33] <@Charmander> I think you're ready to make the team now
[15:33] <@Charmander> I think you're ready to make the team now
[15:33] <@Charmander> if you have any questions feel free to ask
[15:34] <@Charmander> if you have any questions feel free to ask
[15:35] <quiggle> I used oma on a previous team
[15:35] <quiggle> I used oma on a previous team
[15:35] <quiggle> But the problem wasn't with it, it was with me. How do i know when to set up?
[15:35] <quiggle> But the problem wasn't with it, it was with me. How do i know when to set up?
[15:35] <quiggle> Like, what pokemon are guaranteed setup fooder
[15:35] <quiggle> Like, what pokemon are guaranteed setup fooder
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[15:37] <@Charmander> omanyte is pretty bulky
[15:37] <@Charmander> omanyte is pretty bulky
[15:37] <@Charmander> really bulky actually
[15:37] <@Charmander> really bulky actually
[15:38] <@Charmander> most physical attackers are setup bait
[15:38] <@Charmander> most physical attackers are setup bait
[15:38] <@Charmander> like murkrow, but watch out for sucker punch
[15:38] <@Charmander> like murkrow, but watch out for sucker punch
[15:38] <quiggle> what item?
[15:38] <quiggle> what item?
[15:38] <@Charmander> mienfoo's drain punch actually does around 60%
[15:38] <@Charmander> mienfoo's drain punch actually does around 60%
[15:38] <quiggle> evio?
[15:38] <quiggle> evio?
[15:38] <@Charmander> yeah
[15:38] <@Charmander> yeah
[15:38] <@Charmander> im fairly sure surf ohkos mienfoo
[15:38] <@Charmander> im fairly sure surf ohkos mienfoo
[15:39] <quiggle> are you on pokemon Showdown atm?
[15:39] <quiggle> are you on pokemon Showdown atm?
[15:42] <@Charmander> no I'm not
[15:42] <@Charmander> no I'm not
[15:42] <@Charmander> I can get on if you need me to
[15:42] <@Charmander> I can get on if you need me to
[15:42] <@Charmander> why?
[15:42] <@Charmander> why?
[15:42] <quiggle> also earth power or ancientpower?
[15:42] <quiggle> also earth power or ancientpower?
[15:42] <@Charmander> hmm
[15:42] <@Charmander> hmm
[15:42] <@Charmander> i'd say neither
[15:42] <@Charmander> i'd say neither
[15:43] <@Charmander> actually earth power hits tirtouga and chou now that I think of it
[15:43] <@Charmander> actually earth power hits tirtouga and chou now that I think of it
[15:43] <@Charmander> (and gunk)
[15:43] <@Charmander> (and gunk)
[15:43] <@Charmander> so ep
[15:43] <@Charmander> so ep
[15:43] <@Charmander> shell smash, surf, ice beam, earth power i'd say
[15:43] <@Charmander> shell smash, surf, ice beam, earth power i'd say
[15:45] <quiggle> Well 1:I'd like to test the team against a pro and #2: I'd like to ease up on my predictions
[15:45] <quiggle> Well 1:I'd like to test the team against a pro and #2: I'd like to ease up on my predictions
[15:45] <quiggle> that's why I'd like u to b on PS :3
[15:45] <quiggle> that's why I'd like u to b on PS :3
[15:45] <@Charmander> oh ok
[15:45] <@Charmander> oh ok
[15:45] <@Charmander> are you ready to play now?
[15:45] <@Charmander> are you ready to play now?
[15:46] <quiggle> not yet, still teambuilding
[15:46] <quiggle> not yet, still teambuilding
[15:46] <quiggle> modest or timid?
[15:46] <quiggle> modest or timid?
[15:47] <@Charmander> timid outspeeds adamant scarfkrow and ties with jolly scarfkrow
[15:47] <@Charmander> timid outspeeds adamant scarfkrow and ties with jolly scarfkrow
[15:47] <@Charmander> modest is strongr
[15:47] <@Charmander> modest is strongr
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[15:48] <@Charmander> but it's your team so your choice
[15:48] <@Charmander> but it's your team so your choice
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[15:49] <quiggle> mmkay
[15:49] <quiggle> mmkay
[15:49] <quiggle> i think i'll go timid
[15:49] <quiggle> i think i'll go timid
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[15:52] <quiggle> I'm guessing bulky porygon
[15:52] <quiggle> I'm guessing bulky porygon
[15:53] <@Charmander> yeah
[15:53] <@Charmander> yeah
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[15:59] <bluucrayon> Hey guys.  Trying to make a UU team.
[15:59] <bluucrayon> Hey guys.  Trying to make a UU team.
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[16:00] <quiggle> charmander, hp rock or fire on snover?
[16:00] <quiggle> charmander, hp rock or fire on snover?
[16:01] <@Charmander> hmm, I usually use fire
[16:01] <@Charmander> hmm, I usually use fire
[16:01] <quiggle> mmkay
[16:01] <quiggle> mmkay
[16:01] <@Charmander> your choice though
[16:01] <@Charmander> your choice though
[16:01] <@Charmander> it isn't that important
[16:01] <@Charmander> it isn't that important
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[16:04] <quiggle> mmkay
[16:04] <quiggle> mmkay
[16:04] <quiggle> I'm ready
[16:04] <quiggle> I'm ready
[16:05] <@Charmander> pl
[16:05] <@Charmander> pl
[16:05] <@Charmander> ok*
[16:05] <@Charmander> ok*
[16:05] <@Charmander> challenge Charmander
[16:05] <@Charmander> challenge Charmander
[16:07] <quiggle> I'm challenging rite now
[16:07] <quiggle> I'm challenging rite now
[16:09] <@Charmander> I accepted
[16:09] <@Charmander> I accepted