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  3. <i>The story of humans</i>
  4. <i>and milk began over 8,000 years ago.</i>
  5.  
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  8. <i>Back then, the earliest farmers discovered</i>
  9.  
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  11. 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,600
  12. <i>that they too could drink the milk</i>
  13.  
  14. 4
  15. 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,800
  16. <i>that the calves were suckling</i>
  17. <i>from the cows</i>
  18.  
  19. 5
  20. 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,160
  21. <i>in order to survive hard times.</i>
  22.  
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  24. 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,400
  25. <i>Since then, milk,</i>
  26. <i>the white elixir of life,</i>
  27.  
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  29. 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,120
  30. <i>has featured in myths</i>
  31. <i> and religious writings.</i>
  32.  
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  34. 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,120
  35. <i>When I was herding cows as a child</i>
  36. <i>in the mountains, </i>
  37.  
  38. 9
  39. 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,200
  40. <i>I never asked myself</i>
  41. <i>why they produce milk.</i>
  42.  
  43. 10
  44. 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,280
  45. <i>It was as self-evident</i>
  46. <i>as the apples hanging from the trees</i>
  47.  
  48. 11
  49. 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,160
  50. <i>or the water flowing down</i>
  51. <i>mountain streams.</i>
  52.  
  53. 12
  54. 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,880
  55. <i>And all the gestures involved</i>
  56. <i>in dealing with cows,</i>
  57.  
  58. 13
  59. 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,720
  60. <i>such as the way to call to them,</i>
  61.  
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  63. 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,520
  64. <i>seemed to have remained unchanged</i>
  65. <i>for centuries.</i>
  66.  
  67. 15
  68. 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,240
  69. <i> In recent decades, however,</i>
  70.  
  71. 16
  72. 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,680
  73. <i>the relationship between humans,</i>
  74. <i>animals, and milk, has changed radically. </i>
  75.  
  76. 17
  77. 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,640
  78. <i>In Europe alone, it's a market</i>
  79. <i>worth 100 billion euros</i>
  80.  
  81. 18
  82. 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,760
  83. <i>that produces the almost</i>
  84. <i>200 million tonnes of milk</i>
  85.  
  86. 19
  87. 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,560
  88. <i>that are sold by multinational</i>
  89. <i>conglomerates annually.</i>
  90.  
  91. 20
  92. 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,520
  93. <i>When 1.3 billion Chinese</i>
  94. <i>were given a taste for milk</i>
  95.  
  96. 21
  97. 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:51,920
  98. <i>the market simply exploded.</i>
  99.  
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  101. 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,640
  102. <i>As milk has become</i>
  103. <i>a much-desired commodity,</i>
  104.  
  105. 23
  106. 00:02:57,920 --> 00:03:00,320
  107. <i>the milk trade is now extremely fierce.</i>
  108.  
  109. 24
  110. 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,120
  111. <i>I wanted to hear from industrialists,</i>
  112. <i>farmers, and scientists,</i>
  113.  
  114. 25
  115. 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,840
  116. <i>about what the effect of</i>
  117. <i>this production development has been</i>
  118.  
  119. 26
  120. 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,040
  121. <i>on animals, the environment, our politics,</i>
  122.  
  123. 27
  124. 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,760
  125. <i>and last but not least, on all of us.</i>
  126.  
  127. 28
  128. 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,120
  129. <i>Peder Mouritsen is not a farmer.</i>
  130.  
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  132. 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,280
  133. <i>He and his son work as entrepreneurs.</i>
  134.  
  135. 30
  136. 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,120
  137. <i>Six farms, 750 cows, and 12 employees.</i>
  138.  
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  140. 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,440
  141. Check up on that. Let's do that.
  142.  
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  144. 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,520
  145. Can you bring one more?
  146.  
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  148. 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,800
  149. Frederiksen is on his way.
  150.  
  151. 34
  152. 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,440
  153. That's good. Okay.
  154.  
  155. 35
  156. 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,400
  157. We're constantly optimizing.
  158. I'm thinking about it all the time.
  159.  
  160. 36
  161. 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:41,840
  162. It's nice to be here.
  163.  
  164. 37
  165. 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,480
  166. No sleep aid for me. I sleep so well.
  167.  
  168. 38
  169. 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,320
  170. But... they say you have stress
  171.  
  172. 39
  173. 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,880
  174. if you wake up
  175. and you're thinking about work.
  176.  
  177. 40
  178. 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,200
  179. Then I've had a lot of stress.
  180. I just never really worried about it.
  181.  
  182. 41
  183. 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,360
  184. My job is to
  185. check, check, check everything.
  186.  
  187. 42
  188. 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,360
  189. To make sure that they do
  190. what they have to.
  191.  
  192. 43
  193. 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,200
  194. I am almost like a shadow,
  195. just lurking around.
  196.  
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  198. 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,080
  199. Our existence relies on
  200.  
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  202. 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,400
  203. producing milk as cheap as possible
  204.  
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  206. 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,520
  207. and with the highest quality possible.
  208.  
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  210. 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,480
  211. There's a lot of pressure on the price.
  212.  
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  214. 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:46,040
  215. We need to...
  216.  
  217. 49
  218. 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,640
  219. produce more at a higher quality,
  220. so we can get the price we want.
  221.  
  222. 50
  223. 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:51,600
  224. That's what it's about.
  225.  
  226. 51
  227. 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,920
  228. When we took over the family farm,
  229.  
  230. 52
  231. 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,240
  232. we were the 18th generation to do so,
  233.  
  234. 53
  235. 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,080
  236. we had 100...
  237.  
  238. 54
  239. 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,720
  240. 140 cows.
  241.  
  242. 55
  243. 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,440
  244. Then we expanded so we had 300.
  245.  
  246. 56
  247. 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,640
  248. We doubled up.
  249.  
  250. 57
  251. 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,520
  252. That was in 2002.
  253.  
  254. 58
  255. 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,800
  256. I could not have imagined
  257. that we today would have 750.
  258.  
  259. 59
  260. 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,040
  261. Not at all.
  262.  
  263. 60
  264. 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,040
  265. It happened because--
  266.  
  267. 61
  268. 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:42,320
  269. It happened because we wanted it.
  270.  
  271. 62
  272. 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,240
  273. But... we wanted it because of the money.
  274.  
  275. 63
  276. 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,680
  277. As it is...
  278.  
  279. 64
  280. 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:53,240
  281. we will have managed
  282. to get through the crisis we are in now,
  283.  
  284. 65
  285. 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,400
  286. until the economy starts flowing again.
  287.  
  288. 66
  289. 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,600
  290. We will be ready
  291. when the price of milk goes up.
  292.  
  293. 67
  294. 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:00,920
  295. Then it's time to make money.
  296.  
  297. 68
  298. 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,920
  299. <i> Peder delivers</i>
  300. <i>his milk to the dairy concern Arla.</i>
  301.  
  302. 69
  303. 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,600
  304. <i>Dairies are the most important interface</i>
  305. <i>between producers and consumers.</i>
  306.  
  307. 70
  308. 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,840
  309. <i>and are considered</i>
  310. <i>the most powerful players</i>
  311.  
  312. 71
  313. 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,320
  314. <i>on the milk market.</i>
  315.  
  316. 72
  317. 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,960
  318. We need to wear goggles
  319.  
  320. 73
  321. 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,760
  322. in this area here.
  323.  
  324. 74
  325. 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,880
  326. It comes directly from the farm
  327.  
  328. 75
  329. 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,120
  330. and is weighed in.
  331.  
  332. 76
  333. 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,840
  334. 1.1 million liters,
  335. four different types of milk
  336.  
  337. 77
  338. 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,680
  339. And then we start here.
  340.  
  341. 78
  342. 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,880
  343. We test for penicillin.
  344.  
  345. 79
  346. 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,320
  347. We note down which truck
  348. delivered the milk.
  349.  
  350. 80
  351. 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,840
  352. We also write down
  353. if the taste was good enough
  354.  
  355. 81
  356. 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,920
  357. then it's graded G1.
  358. If it's G3, it's considered waste.
  359.  
  360. 82
  361. 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,000
  362. Sterilized, homogenized, pasteurized.
  363.  
  364. 83
  365. 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:37,360
  366. Now the milk is quickly pumped
  367. to the filling line.
  368.  
  369. 84
  370. 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:09,280
  371. <i>Arla has</i>
  372. <i>grown rapidly in that last decade.</i>
  373.  
  374. 85
  375. 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,160
  376. <i>It has incorporated countless competitors.</i>
  377.  
  378. 86
  379. 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,960
  380. <i>This puts it in the top five of</i>
  381. <i>the largest dairy companies in the world.</i>
  382.  
  383. 87
  384. 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:22,240
  385. When I started as a very young marketer,
  386. 27 years old,
  387.  
  388. 88
  389. 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,400
  390. in 1987 in Denmark,
  391.  
  392. 89
  393. 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:33,240
  394. there were 37,000 farmers producing
  395. a five and a half billion liters of milk.
  396.  
  397. 90
  398. 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:38,240
  399. Today we have 3,500 farmers
  400. producing almost the same amount.
  401.  
  402. 91
  403. 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,120
  404. So there has been a huge structural
  405. development on the farming side.
  406.  
  407. 92
  408. 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,600
  409. And that's also needed in order
  410. to be able to compete
  411.  
  412. 93
  413. 00:09:44,680 --> 00:09:47,000
  414. with farmers throughout the world.
  415.  
  416. 94
  417. 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,680
  418. The market has globalized
  419. and we today have prices that are
  420.  
  421. 95
  422. 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,400
  423. so much linked together.
  424.  
  425. 96
  426. 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,000
  427. Whatever happens in Berlin
  428.  
  429. 97
  430. 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,960
  431. may come price-wise from
  432. a trend in China or vice versa.
  433.  
  434. 98
  435. 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,160
  436. As a company, as an FMCG company,
  437.  
  438. 99
  439. 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,440
  440. as a food company, as a dairy company,
  441.  
  442. 100
  443. 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,160
  444. you have to have the force
  445. and the power
  446.  
  447. 101
  448. 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,360
  449. to reach further and further away
  450.  
  451. 102
  452. 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,040
  453. from your home, finding new consumers,
  454.  
  455. 103
  456. 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,840
  457. having the financial power to engage
  458. in new technology, in new innovation.
  459.  
  460. 104
  461. 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,440
  462. So the growth in itself actually gives us
  463. a lot of opportunity
  464.  
  465. 105
  466. 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,440
  467. to grasp the opportunities
  468. around the world
  469.  
  470. 106
  471. 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,160
  472. that we would not have
  473.  
  474. 107
  475. 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,800
  476. were we a much smaller company,
  477. as we were 10 years ago.
  478.  
  479. 108
  480. 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:50,680
  481. The first one?
  482.  
  483. 109
  484. 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,920
  485. <i> In the southern tip of Germany</i>
  486. <i>lives the Geiger family.</i>
  487.  
  488. 110
  489. 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,760
  490. I'll look where these two are.
  491.  
  492. 111
  493. 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,560
  494. <i>Four generations under one roof.</i>
  495.  
  496. 112
  497. 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,360
  498. <i>Like most European farmers,</i>
  499. <i>theirs is a family business.</i>
  500.  
  501. 113
  502. 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,600
  503. <i>They have 250 cows,</i>
  504.  
  505. 114
  506. 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:06,800
  507. <i>but are being forced to economize</i>
  508. <i>more and more.</i>
  509.  
  510. 115
  511. 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:17,600
  512. <i>When I came to the farm in 1978,</i>
  513.  
  514. 116
  515. 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,160
  516. <i>there were 35 cows.</i>
  517.  
  518. 117
  519. 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,960
  520. <i>Today, 35 cows is nothing.</i>
  521.  
  522. 118
  523. 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:24,560
  524. Okay, dig in.
  525.  
  526. 119
  527. 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,200
  528. Unfortunately, no fried onions
  529.  
  530. 120
  531. 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,320
  532. No onions.
  533.  
  534. 121
  535. 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,920
  536. <i>It's a bit of a family thing,</i>
  537. <i>it's in the blood.</i>
  538.  
  539. 122
  540. 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,720
  541. <i>My husband is a man</i>
  542. <i>who is able to work a lot.</i>
  543.  
  544. 123
  545. 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,400
  546. And the business mindset stems from him.
  547.  
  548. 124
  549. 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,720
  550. From his ancestors.
  551.  
  552. 125
  553. 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,760
  554. His grandfather
  555. always had the biggest farm
  556.  
  557. 126
  558. 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,880
  559. with the most cows.
  560.  
  561. 127
  562. 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,720
  563. It seems that is hereditary.
  564.  
  565. 128
  566. 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:59,520
  567. We managed. But we came to a point
  568. where we said, "We need to stop."
  569.  
  570. 129
  571. 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,000
  572. We didn't want to be pushed anymore.
  573.  
  574. 130
  575. 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,280
  576. <i>You're obligated to deliver all your milk</i>
  577. <i>to one dairy.</i>
  578.  
  579. 131
  580. 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,560
  581. <i>You only find out afterwards</i>
  582. <i>how much you'll get paid.</i>
  583.  
  584. 132
  585. 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,960
  586. <i>And if the milk price drops,</i>
  587. <i>it's tough luck.</i>
  588.  
  589. 133
  590. 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,320
  591. <i>You have no power, no influence.</i>
  592.  
  593. 134
  594. 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,400
  595. <i>Back in the day,</i>
  596. <i>our cattle were put out to pasture.</i>
  597.  
  598. 135
  599. 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,080
  600. <i>But when you have so many,</i>
  601. <i>that's difficult,</i>
  602.  
  603. 136
  604. 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,920
  605. <i>herding so many cows out to the pastures,</i>
  606.  
  607. 137
  608. 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,000
  609. <i>some of which are far away.</i>
  610.  
  611. 138
  612. 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,600
  613. <i>Taking them out there and back every day</i>
  614. <i>is lots of work.</i>
  615.  
  616. 139
  617. 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,240
  618. <i>Also the paths are dirty</i>
  619. <i>and we'd have to clean them all.</i>
  620.  
  621. 140
  622. 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:54,400
  623. That's ultimately why we stopped
  624. pasture feeding.
  625.  
  626. 141
  627. 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,000
  628. Back when we had just 100 cows,
  629. they were outside.
  630.  
  631. 142
  632. 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,840
  633. For the cows,
  634. pasture is definitely better,
  635.  
  636. 143
  637. 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,120
  638. we don't even need to argue about that.
  639.  
  640. 144
  641. 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,000
  642. This is Discovery.
  643.  
  644. 145
  645. 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,080
  646. We call him the poop robot.
  647.  
  648. 146
  649. 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,960
  650. It pushes the cows' poop down the drain.
  651.  
  652. 147
  653. 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,960
  654. A manure sewer is underneath.
  655.  
  656. 148
  657. 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,840
  658. It's a clean solution,
  659. so the cows always stand on clean ground.
  660.  
  661. 149
  662. 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,040
  663. They don't have to stand in the muck.
  664.  
  665. 150
  666. 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,800
  667. That's important for the health
  668. of their hooves.
  669.  
  670. 151
  671. 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,040
  672. <i>The Geiger's</i>
  673. <i>don't have one single employee.</i>
  674.  
  675. 152
  676. 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,040
  677. <i>But they do have</i>
  678. <i>the most modern technology.</i>
  679.  
  680. 153
  681. 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,440
  682. <i>According to Martin, they couldn't</i>
  683. <i>run the farm as a family business</i>
  684.  
  685. 154
  686. 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,320
  687. <i>without the milking robot.</i>
  688.  
  689. 155
  690. 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,360
  691. Using a little to achieve a lot,
  692.  
  693. 156
  694. 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,400
  695. that's my goal.
  696.  
  697. 157
  698. 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,760
  699. But politics is making it
  700. harder and harder.
  701.  
  702. 158
  703. 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,200
  704. It's no longer possible.
  705.  
  706. 159
  707. 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,240
  708. Maybe it is wishful thinking,
  709. I don't know...
  710.  
  711. 160
  712. 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,600
  713. wanting to achieve more with less.
  714.  
  715. 161
  716. 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,000
  717. Today, you need to go higher and higher,
  718. always deliver more.
  719.  
  720. 162
  721. 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:25,040
  722. There are consultants who tell you
  723. which fodder to feed the cows
  724.  
  725. 163
  726. 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,400
  727. so you can always achieve maximum yield,
  728.  
  729. 164
  730. 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,720
  731. more growth...
  732.  
  733. 165
  734. 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,520
  735. We're reaching our limits
  736. as a family operation.
  737.  
  738. 166
  739. 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,160
  740. We don't earn as much anymore.
  741.  
  742. 167
  743. 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:51,480
  744. We're only working for the big companies,
  745. the feed and food industry.
  746.  
  747. 168
  748. 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,640
  749. And we fall by the wayside.
  750.  
  751. 169
  752. 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,280
  753. Right now,
  754. the base price we get is 27 cents.
  755.  
  756. 170
  757. 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,520
  758. In order to cover all cost
  759. of our milk production,
  760.  
  761. 171
  762. 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,800
  763. we'd need at least 40 cents or higher.
  764.  
  765. 172
  766. 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,760
  767. And that makes me angry.
  768.  
  769. 173
  770. 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:28,480
  771. Yeah. That makes me question
  772. whether the system is working right.
  773.  
  774. 174
  775. 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,160
  776. <i>Dairies have traditionally</i>
  777. <i>been organized as cooperatives</i>
  778.  
  779. 175
  780. 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,760
  781. <i>but little remains of</i>
  782. <i>their regional social intentions.</i>
  783.  
  784. 176
  785. 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,960
  786. <i>Another global player in the milk sector</i>
  787. <i>is FrieslandCampina,</i>
  788.  
  789. 177
  790. 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,600
  791. <i>which is based in Holland.</i>
  792.  
  793. 178
  794. 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,640
  795. It's a bit like Darwin, huh?
  796.  
  797. 179
  798. 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,480
  799. If you don't keep renewing yourself,
  800. you basically die.
  801.  
  802. 180
  803. 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,840
  804. So we need to keep renewing.
  805. We need growth.
  806.  
  807. 181
  808. 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,640
  809. We need to grow in order to...
  810.  
  811. 182
  812. 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,920
  813. to keep innovating
  814. to be able to keep investing.
  815.  
  816. 183
  817. 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,240
  818. And I think that's also important
  819. for the health of our company.
  820.  
  821. 184
  822. 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,880
  823. As soon as we stop growing,
  824. I think we have a big problem.
  825.  
  826. 185
  827. 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,480
  828. We always say that we are
  829. from grass to glass.
  830.  
  831. 186
  832. 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,200
  833. So we have the cows,
  834.  
  835. 187
  836. 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,480
  837. we have the production, and we have
  838. the sales and the products.
  839.  
  840. 188
  841. 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,040
  842. The best way to compare our company
  843. is almost with a refinery.
  844.  
  845. 189
  846. 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,160
  847. There's a huge, huge array of products
  848. that we make with our milk.
  849.  
  850. 190
  851. 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:43,240
  852. These are all the products that are coming
  853. out of one stream of milk that goes in
  854.  
  855. 191
  856. 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,320
  857. and all these products magically come out.
  858.  
  859. 192
  860. 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:54,800
  861. One of our, uh...
  862.  
  863. 193
  864. 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,720
  865. fastest-growing categories,
  866. infant formula.
  867.  
  868. 194
  869. 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,360
  870. We have the Friso brand
  871. that we sell all over the world
  872.  
  873. 195
  874. 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,640
  875. but predominantly
  876. southeast Asia and China.
  877.  
  878. 196
  879. 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:09,520
  880. Another highlight is a product
  881. that we recently launched in Hong Kong.
  882.  
  883. 197
  884. 00:17:09,599 --> 00:17:11,400
  885. It's Optimel adult nutrition.
  886.  
  887. 198
  888. 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,200
  889. This is a product for seniors.
  890.  
  891. 199
  892. 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,599
  893. We have three types: for 40+, 50+ and 60+.
  894.  
  895. 200
  896. 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,240
  897. And basically, when you're getting older
  898. you're losing your muscles,
  899.  
  900. 201
  901. 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:22,839
  902. you're losing your mobility.
  903.  
  904. 202
  905. 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,720
  906. And we have a specific formulation
  907. for senior people.
  908.  
  909. 203
  910. 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,080
  911. And this is a big trend
  912. that we also see across the world.
  913.  
  914. 204
  915. 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,800
  916. Now for people who have less money,
  917.  
  918. 205
  919. 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:38,800
  920. we also have a product
  921. that we sell in West Africa
  922.  
  923. 206
  924. 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:40,480
  925. that basically
  926.  
  927. 207
  928. 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:44,360
  929. lowers the price point,
  930. gives them one consumption.
  931.  
  932. 208
  933. 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,400
  934. They can buy four in a row
  935. but they can also...
  936.  
  937. 209
  938. 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,520
  939. buy one piece apart.
  940.  
  941. 210
  942. 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,920
  943. And by doing that
  944.  
  945. 211
  946. 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,960
  947. the trade is also happy
  948. because they can serve more customers.
  949.  
  950. 212
  951. 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,320
  952. <i>Is there really no alternative</i>
  953. <i>to always bigger and more global?</i>
  954.  
  955. 213
  956. 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,240
  957. <i>In South Tyrol, I meet Alexander Agethle</i>
  958.  
  959. 214
  960. 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,480
  961. <i>on his small, organic dairy farm.</i>
  962.  
  963. 215
  964. 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,360
  965. <i>It wasn't far from here</i>
  966. <i>that I herded cows as a child.</i>
  967.  
  968. 216
  969. 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:30,880
  970. Emma, hup!
  971.  
  972. 217
  973. 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,040
  974. Hup! Hey.
  975.  
  976. 218
  977. 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,480
  978. Go, go.
  979.  
  980. 219
  981. 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:35,840
  982. Hup!
  983.  
  984. 220
  985. 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,400
  986. Hey. Go, go.
  987.  
  988. 221
  989. 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,560
  990. Recently a woman said to me,
  991.  
  992. 222
  993. 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,640
  994. "You know, Alexander,
  995. the cows walk as quickly as their farmer."
  996.  
  997. 223
  998. 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:52,440
  999. Then I said,
  1000. "Well, I guess I'm a leisurely guy."
  1001.  
  1002. 224
  1003. 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:59,280
  1004. How you treat the animals shows.
  1005.  
  1006. 225
  1007. 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,280
  1008. They like walking.
  1009.  
  1010. 226
  1011. 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:04,840
  1012. They go slowly because
  1013. they were on the pasture all summer.
  1014.  
  1015. 227
  1016. 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,200
  1017. And because of that
  1018. they aren't as quick.
  1019.  
  1020. 228
  1021. 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,000
  1022. It is quite interesting to note
  1023.  
  1024. 229
  1025. 00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:29,920
  1026. that the average age
  1027. of the cattle has risen tremendously.
  1028.  
  1029. 230
  1030. 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:38,640
  1031. They don't have to produce as much milk
  1032. and hence aren't pushed to their limit.
  1033.  
  1034. 231
  1035. 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,440
  1036. So they have the resources
  1037. to become older.
  1038.  
  1039. 232
  1040. 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,880
  1041. If I had a chair
  1042. I could stay here all day.
  1043.  
  1044. 233
  1045. 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,840
  1046. For me, watching a cow graze...
  1047.  
  1048. 234
  1049. 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:57,800
  1050. it's just soothing.
  1051.  
  1052. 235
  1053. 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,640
  1054. <i>The job of a farmer is so varied.</i>
  1055. <i>That's what drew me to it.</i>
  1056.  
  1057. 236
  1058. 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,240
  1059. <i>It is much more than just a job,</i>
  1060. <i>it's a way of life.</i>
  1061.  
  1062. 237
  1063. 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,600
  1064. <i>At least that's how I interpret it.</i>
  1065.  
  1066. 238
  1067. 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,160
  1068. <i>It was clear to me</i>
  1069. <i>that I wanted to pursue organic farming.</i>
  1070.  
  1071. 239
  1072. 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,040
  1073. <i>To me, organic farming</i>
  1074. <i>is the most economic way of farming.</i>
  1075.  
  1076. 240
  1077. 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,600
  1078. <i>So it was also clearly</i>
  1079. <i>an economic decision.</i>
  1080.  
  1081. 241
  1082. 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,680
  1083. <i>It quickly became clear</i>
  1084.  
  1085. 242
  1086. 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:57,480
  1087. <i>it wouldn't remain a big factory farm.</i>
  1088.  
  1089. 243
  1090. 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:02,880
  1091. <i>We decided that we wanted</i>
  1092. <i>to process our milk ourselves.</i>
  1093.  
  1094. 244
  1095. 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,440
  1096. - Hello! Good morning!
  1097. - Hi!
  1098.  
  1099. 245
  1100. 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,160
  1101. <i>To me it became clear right away</i>
  1102.  
  1103. 246
  1104. 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,560
  1105. <i>that we needed to aim for quality.</i>
  1106.  
  1107. 247
  1108. 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,920
  1109. <i>That's why we make cheese</i>
  1110. <i>from our raw milk,</i>
  1111.  
  1112. 248
  1113. 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,680
  1114. <i>develop our own recipes,</i>
  1115.  
  1116. 249
  1117. 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,560
  1118. <i>so we can achieve a high quality.</i>
  1119.  
  1120. 250
  1121. 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,840
  1122. <i>We are lucky to have so many skills</i>
  1123. <i>within our family,</i>
  1124.  
  1125. 251
  1126. 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,640
  1127. <i>there's communication, organization,</i>
  1128. <i>and production skills.</i>
  1129.  
  1130. 252
  1131. 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,520
  1132. <i>We are really lucky.</i>
  1133.  
  1134. 253
  1135. 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,880
  1136. <i>Of course, farmer-to-consumer marketing</i>
  1137.  
  1138. 254
  1139. 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:32,240
  1140. <i>has its limitations</i>
  1141. <i>as not everyone can come here.</i>
  1142.  
  1143. 255
  1144. 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,520
  1145. <i>But nowadays there are many different</i>
  1146. <i>distribution options.</i>
  1147.  
  1148. 256
  1149. 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,000
  1150. <i>But I do have to say</i>
  1151.  
  1152. 257
  1153. 00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:43,040
  1154. <i>I am not interested in selling my cheese</i>
  1155.  
  1156. 258
  1157. 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,000
  1158. <i>beyond a range of 200 kilometers.</i>
  1159.  
  1160. 259
  1161. 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,080
  1162. <i>It makes no sense ecologically.</i>
  1163.  
  1164. 260
  1165. 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,040
  1166. <i>The most central</i>
  1167. <i>and yet weakest link</i>
  1168.  
  1169. 261
  1170. 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:08,800
  1171. <i>in the intensive milk production chain</i>
  1172. <i>are the cows.</i>
  1173.  
  1174. 262
  1175. 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,160
  1176. <i>They are permanently being optimized</i>
  1177. <i>through breeding.</i>
  1178.  
  1179. 263
  1180. 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,000
  1181. <i>The high-producing cows</i>
  1182. <i>of the Friesian breed</i>
  1183.  
  1184. 264
  1185. 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,800
  1186. <i>don't have much in common anymore</i>
  1187.  
  1188. 265
  1189. 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,760
  1190. <i>with the animals I drove out</i>
  1191. <i>onto the meadows.</i>
  1192.  
  1193. 266
  1194. 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,360
  1195. <i>These animals are task optimized,</i>
  1196.  
  1197. 267
  1198. 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,720
  1199. <i>meaning they were bred specifically</i>
  1200. <i>for milk production.</i>
  1201.  
  1202. 268
  1203. 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,960
  1204. <i>It's rare to have a day</i>
  1205. <i>without insemination.</i>
  1206.  
  1207. 269
  1208. 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,600
  1209. <i>Maybe one day without,</i>
  1210. <i>but most days we inseminate.</i>
  1211.  
  1212. 270
  1213. 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,040
  1214. Pregnancy is the most important part
  1215. of keeping cattle or cows.
  1216.  
  1217. 271
  1218. 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,920
  1219. A cow can't be empty too long
  1220. or otherwise she'll get fat.
  1221.  
  1222. 272
  1223. 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,840
  1224. That would result in her
  1225. not be giving milk.
  1226.  
  1227. 273
  1228. 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,400
  1229. A cow should have one calf per year.
  1230.  
  1231. 274
  1232. 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,680
  1233. If she can't get pregnant anymore,
  1234. unfortunately, she'll have to go.
  1235.  
  1236. 275
  1237. 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,360
  1238. That's the way it is.
  1239.  
  1240. 276
  1241. 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,440
  1242. <i>Somehow</i>
  1243. <i>I failed to realize that the milk we drink</i>
  1244.  
  1245. 277
  1246. 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,000
  1247. <i>is that of permanently pregnant cows.</i>
  1248.  
  1249. 278
  1250. 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,120
  1251. <i>Because without a calf,</i>
  1252. <i>there's no milk.</i>
  1253.  
  1254. 279
  1255. 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:02,560
  1256. <i>And without milk,</i>
  1257. <i>there's no right to exist.</i>
  1258.  
  1259. 280
  1260. 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,320
  1261. <i>Cows could easily live to the age of 20,</i>
  1262.  
  1263. 281
  1264. 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,360
  1265. <i>but the average lifespan</i>
  1266. <i>of a high-producing animal</i>
  1267.  
  1268. 282
  1269. 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,120
  1270. <i>doesn't even top five.</i>
  1271.  
  1272. 283
  1273. 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,520
  1274. <i>And it's only the females</i>
  1275. <i>that are allowed to survive in any case.</i>
  1276.  
  1277. 284
  1278. 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,840
  1279. Come here, hey.
  1280.  
  1281. 285
  1282. 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,840
  1283. Come with me, come.
  1284.  
  1285. 286
  1286. 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,920
  1287. Come on, go.
  1288.  
  1289. 287
  1290. 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,840
  1291. A cattle trader will come
  1292. and pick them up.
  1293.  
  1294. 288
  1295. 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,960
  1296. He'll sort them by weight and breed.
  1297.  
  1298. 289
  1299. 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,880
  1300. And then he'll sell them
  1301. to fattening farms.
  1302.  
  1303. 290
  1304. 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,240
  1305. I only sell bulls.
  1306. Female offspring remain on our farm.
  1307.  
  1308. 291
  1309. 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,600
  1310. I need them to add as stock replacement.
  1311.  
  1312. 292
  1313. 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,360
  1314. Bulls are more of a burden.
  1315. They require lots of work.
  1316.  
  1317. 293
  1318. 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,960
  1319. They're worth around €70 per calf.
  1320.  
  1321. 294
  1322. 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,360
  1323. We used to get lower prices, €50.
  1324.  
  1325. 295
  1326. 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:23,680
  1327. It's not profitable.
  1328. But we have them and have to do it.
  1329.  
  1330. 296
  1331. 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,520
  1332. We can't just kill them.
  1333.  
  1334. 297
  1335. 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,040
  1336. Our animals are just numbers.
  1337.  
  1338. 298
  1339. 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,360
  1340. They calve after two years.
  1341.  
  1342. 299
  1343. 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,400
  1344. But we decided four ago
  1345.  
  1346. 300
  1347. 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:46,240
  1348. what sperm to use
  1349. and how to cross breed them.
  1350.  
  1351. 301
  1352. 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,240
  1353. It was actually four years
  1354. that we decided...
  1355.  
  1356. 302
  1357. 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,960
  1358. at least four...
  1359.  
  1360. 303
  1361. 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,880
  1362. how that one is supposed to look today.
  1363.  
  1364. 304
  1365. 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,720
  1366. And it is a bit funny to see
  1367.  
  1368. 305
  1369. 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,720
  1370. if it turns out as it should.
  1371.  
  1372. 306
  1373. 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:01,520
  1374. Will we get what we expected?
  1375.  
  1376. 307
  1377. 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,040
  1378. A lot of new knowledge
  1379. comes along in four years,
  1380.  
  1381. 308
  1382. 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,360
  1383. so you might already know
  1384. it will turn out bad.
  1385.  
  1386. 309
  1387. 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,360
  1388. But then you'll see how bad exactly.
  1389. That's also...
  1390.  
  1391. 310
  1392. 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,560
  1393. ...fun to see.
  1394.  
  1395. 311
  1396. 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,880
  1397. Our idea of a crossbreed,
  1398.  
  1399. 312
  1400. 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,720
  1401. when we started
  1402. four or five years ago,
  1403.  
  1404. 313
  1405. 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,600
  1406. was to get a cow we could milk...
  1407.  
  1408. 314
  1409. 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,800
  1410. for more years.
  1411.  
  1412. 315
  1413. 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,320
  1414. Because it costs money
  1415. to raise a new cow.
  1416.  
  1417. 316
  1418. 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,400
  1419. In those two years the calf just...
  1420.  
  1421. 317
  1422. 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,040
  1423. takes up space while it needs to grow.
  1424.  
  1425. 318
  1426. 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,160
  1427. That's just expenses, expenses, expenses.
  1428.  
  1429. 319
  1430. 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,280
  1431. If we could get a cow that could
  1432. milk for five years rather than three,
  1433.  
  1434. 320
  1435. 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,040
  1436. then we would not have to get another one.
  1437.  
  1438. 321
  1439. 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,000
  1440. We would be some surplus calves
  1441. which we can sell,
  1442.  
  1443. 322
  1444. 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,840
  1445. though they're not worth much.
  1446. It is just a waste product to us.
  1447.  
  1448. 323
  1449. 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,480
  1450. If the price for them is so low
  1451. that we can't even cover our expenses
  1452.  
  1453. 324
  1454. 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,400
  1455. to keep them alive for two weeks,
  1456.  
  1457. 325
  1458. 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,120
  1459. then we put them down. We have to.
  1460.  
  1461. 326
  1462. 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,240
  1463. This is not a charity. This is a business.
  1464.  
  1465. 327
  1466. 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,920
  1467. <i>The breeders are not yet capable</i>
  1468.  
  1469. 328
  1470. 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,760
  1471. <i>of completely excluding</i>
  1472. <i>the births of males.</i>
  1473.  
  1474. 329
  1475. 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,600
  1476. <i>But they will be.</i>
  1477.  
  1478. 330
  1479. 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,440
  1480. <i>I meet the turbo-cow breeder elite</i>
  1481. <i>in Cremona, North Italy,</i>
  1482.  
  1483. 331
  1484. 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,760
  1485. <i>for a genetic performance show.</i>
  1486.  
  1487. 332
  1488. 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,760
  1489. In recent years,
  1490. genetics helped us a lot
  1491.  
  1492. 333
  1493. 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,120
  1494. because it selected
  1495. very productive animals,
  1496.  
  1497. 334
  1498. 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,520
  1499. but also ones able to handle
  1500. more and more stress.
  1501.  
  1502. 335
  1503. 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,600
  1504. It's like an athlete.
  1505.  
  1506. 336
  1507. 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,800
  1508. Athletes are never fat.
  1509.  
  1510. 337
  1511. 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,600
  1512. They are lean but in shape.
  1513.  
  1514. 338
  1515. 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,360
  1516. A fat animal
  1517.  
  1518. 339
  1519. 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,240
  1520. is not productive and suffers.
  1521.  
  1522. 340
  1523. 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,440
  1524. The animal should be in shape.
  1525.  
  1526. 341
  1527. 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,280
  1528. It has to be fed
  1529. with the highest quality product,
  1530.  
  1531. 342
  1532. 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,840
  1533. whether it is hay or feed,
  1534.  
  1535. 343
  1536. 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,920
  1537. so that it can become pregnant
  1538. as soon as possible.
  1539.  
  1540. 344
  1541. 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,320
  1542. One calf a year, if possible.
  1543.  
  1544. 345
  1545. 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,320
  1546. You can buy the embryo,
  1547.  
  1548. 346
  1549. 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,360
  1550. a newborn calf,
  1551.  
  1552. 347
  1553. 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,640
  1554. a pregnant heifer,
  1555.  
  1556. 348
  1557. 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,800
  1558. or a dairy cow.
  1559.  
  1560. 349
  1561. 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,200
  1562. How does it work with the embryos?
  1563.  
  1564. 350
  1565. 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,080
  1566. With the embryo, there's a catalog
  1567.  
  1568. 351
  1569. 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,000
  1570. which, obviously, shows embryos
  1571. that are offered on the market.
  1572.  
  1573. 352
  1574. 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,280
  1575. These cows are way more sensitive.
  1576.  
  1577. 353
  1578. 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,360
  1579. Well, it's like having a Formula One
  1580. and having it run on a country road.
  1581.  
  1582. 354
  1583. 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,720
  1584. There's the milk demonstration.
  1585.  
  1586. 355
  1587. 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,280
  1588. You can see if the animal
  1589.  
  1590. 356
  1591. 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,560
  1592. produces a lot or little milk.
  1593.  
  1594. 357
  1595. 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,680
  1596. The animal will tell you.
  1597.  
  1598. 358
  1599. 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,400
  1600. - You can tell by looking?
  1601. - Huh?
  1602.  
  1603. 359
  1604. 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,120
  1605. -You can tell from the outside?
  1606. -Yes, yes.
  1607.  
  1608. 360
  1609. 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,440
  1610. Yes, yes, yes.
  1611.  
  1612. 361
  1613. 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,960
  1614. <i>High-producing cows</i>
  1615. <i>are living power stations.</i>
  1616.  
  1617. 362
  1618. 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,720
  1619. <i>They have to pump over 20,000 liters</i>
  1620. <i>of blood through their udders every day,</i>
  1621.  
  1622. 363
  1623. 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,920
  1624. <i>an energy-sapping task.</i>
  1625.  
  1626. 364
  1627. 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,320
  1628. <i>But there are other problems</i>
  1629. <i>relating to high-performance husbandry. </i>
  1630.  
  1631. 365
  1632. 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,440
  1633. In this kind of business with 700 cows,
  1634.  
  1635. 366
  1636. 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,880
  1637. we produce a lot of manure.
  1638.  
  1639. 367
  1640. 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,040
  1641. We have this rule of thumb...
  1642.  
  1643. 368
  1644. 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,360
  1645. for one liter of milk
  1646. you get three liters of manure.
  1647.  
  1648. 369
  1649. 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,360
  1650. We produce 20,000 to 24,000
  1651. liters of milk.
  1652.  
  1653. 370
  1654. 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,760
  1655. You can do the math.
  1656.  
  1657. 371
  1658. 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,160
  1659. That's around
  1660. 70,000 liters of manure a day.
  1661.  
  1662. 372
  1663. 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,920
  1664. We use this tank as a buffer.
  1665.  
  1666. 373
  1667. 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,440
  1668. It's an eternal problem. It's always full.
  1669.  
  1670. 374
  1671. 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,400
  1672. I don't want to look at shit anymore.
  1673.  
  1674. 375
  1675. 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,200
  1676. <i>Professor Johannes Isselstein</i>
  1677.  
  1678. 376
  1679. 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,240
  1680. <i>is systematically examining</i>
  1681. <i>the manure problem,</i>
  1682.  
  1683. 377
  1684. 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,720
  1685. <i>what goes into a cow</i>
  1686. <i>and what comes out.</i>
  1687.  
  1688. 378
  1689. 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,520
  1690. <i>And how much is modern dairy farming</i>
  1691. <i>straining the ecological cycle.</i>
  1692.  
  1693. 379
  1694. 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,120
  1695. You can completely feed cattle with grass.
  1696.  
  1697. 380
  1698. 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,400
  1699. Cows are amazing animals in so far as...
  1700.  
  1701. 381
  1702. 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,760
  1703. they turn a raw material, grass,
  1704.  
  1705. 382
  1706. 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,159
  1707. that is an inferior resource
  1708. to human nutrition,
  1709.  
  1710. 383
  1711. 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:14,760
  1712. into something extremely superior,
  1713. milk protein.
  1714.  
  1715. 384
  1716. 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,360
  1717. The intensification of milk production
  1718. led to cows being expected
  1719.  
  1720. 385
  1721. 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,719
  1722. to deliver a higher yield
  1723.  
  1724. 386
  1725. 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,960
  1726. and this higher yield
  1727. couldn't be upheld with natural roughage.
  1728.  
  1729. 387
  1730. 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,360
  1731. Under our conditions in milk production
  1732.  
  1733. 388
  1734. 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,719
  1735. we have around one third of feed energy
  1736. stemming from grass
  1737.  
  1738. 389
  1739. 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:43,080
  1740. and two thirds of what the cows eat
  1741. and what is used for milk production
  1742.  
  1743. 390
  1744. 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,920
  1745. is farm harvested feed.
  1746.  
  1747. 391
  1748. 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,960
  1749. <i>Most farmers have to buy this feed</i>
  1750.  
  1751. 392
  1752. 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,360
  1753. <i>and the majority of it is soy.</i>
  1754.  
  1755. 393
  1756. 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,320
  1757. <i>The majority of soy</i>
  1758. <i>that farmers buy comes from South America.</i>
  1759.  
  1760. 394
  1761. 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,120
  1762. <i>A</i> <i>massive expanse of rainforest</i>
  1763. <i>has been cleared there</i>
  1764.  
  1765. 395
  1766. 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,400
  1767. <i>for European fodder production.</i>
  1768.  
  1769. 396
  1770. 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,320
  1771. <i>They are known as "shadow fodder fields",</i>
  1772.  
  1773. 397
  1774. 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,480
  1775. <i>a flattering name</i>
  1776. <i>for an ecological disaster. </i>
  1777.  
  1778. 398
  1779. 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:32,560
  1780. <i>And we will never rid the world of famine</i>
  1781.  
  1782. 399
  1783. 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,360
  1784. <i>if you feed corn and soy to animals</i>
  1785. <i>rather than nourish humans with it.</i>
  1786.  
  1787. 400
  1788. 00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:43,880
  1789. <i>And is if that wasn't scary enough,</i>
  1790.  
  1791. 401
  1792. 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,760
  1793. <i>cows can only use a third of the energy</i>
  1794. <i>that is in soy or grain.</i>
  1795.  
  1796. 402
  1797. 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,280
  1798. <i>Globally speaking, we are</i>
  1799. <i>squandering resources on a massive scale</i>
  1800.  
  1801. 403
  1802. 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,760
  1803. <i>by feeding cows with grain</i>
  1804. <i>to promote higher yields.</i>
  1805.  
  1806. 404
  1807. 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,040
  1808. <i>Grain and soy are mixed with silage</i>
  1809. <i>and fermented</i>
  1810.  
  1811. 405
  1812. 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,280
  1813. <i>to make durable green fodder.</i>
  1814.  
  1815. 406
  1816. 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,440
  1817. <i>In intensive enclosed farming,</i>
  1818. <i>this paste is fed to the cows.</i>
  1819.  
  1820. 407
  1821. 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,800
  1822. <i>There is drought in Ukraine.</i>
  1823.  
  1824. 408
  1825. 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,160
  1826. <i>It rains in the USA.</i>
  1827.  
  1828. 409
  1829. 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,560
  1830. <i>All of that has an effect</i>
  1831. <i>on what I buy and what I sell.</i>
  1832.  
  1833. 410
  1834. 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,640
  1835. <i>I also have to think...</i>
  1836.  
  1837. 411
  1838. 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,520
  1839. <i>it's so cheap now. Prices can only go up.</i>
  1840.  
  1841. 412
  1842. 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,560
  1843. <i>So I cover my bases while it's cheap</i>
  1844. <i>and hope the selling price will rise.</i>
  1845.  
  1846. 413
  1847. 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,360
  1848. <i>That is how it works.</i>
  1849.  
  1850. 414
  1851. 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,320
  1852. -Who is this?
  1853. -Hello, Peter.
  1854.  
  1855. 415
  1856. 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,040
  1857. -Welcome.
  1858. -Thanks.
  1859.  
  1860. 416
  1861. 00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:55,080
  1862. -What's up?
  1863. -What's up?
  1864.  
  1865. 417
  1866. 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,840
  1867. -How's it going with the corn harvest?
  1868. -Well...
  1869.  
  1870. 418
  1871. 00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:04,800
  1872. We have harvested 38 hectares,
  1873.  
  1874. 419
  1875. 00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:07,480
  1876. -so we are not quite ready yet.
  1877. -No?
  1878.  
  1879. 420
  1880. 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,640
  1881. -It will take a while.
  1882. -It's the early variety.
  1883.  
  1884. 421
  1885. 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,760
  1886. -It's not good with too much sun.
  1887. -Well, that's all right then.
  1888.  
  1889. 422
  1890. 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,960
  1891. The question is
  1892. if it'll be enough for all 2017--
  1893.  
  1894. 423
  1895. 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,480
  1896. -Exactly.
  1897. -Maybe.
  1898.  
  1899. 424
  1900. 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,560
  1901. -Let's try to--
  1902. -Maybe we should lock the prices now.
  1903.  
  1904. 425
  1905. 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,680
  1906. That's the question.
  1907.  
  1908. 426
  1909. 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,160
  1910. We need to evaluate
  1911. what the market will do.
  1912.  
  1913. 427
  1914. 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,480
  1915. -Can you deliver that price on it?
  1916. -Yes, we can.
  1917.  
  1918. 428
  1919. 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,640
  1920. -It only costs an arm and a leg.
  1921. -84 kroner more than the regular.
  1922.  
  1923. 429
  1924. 00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:46,360
  1925. <i>The animal is</i>
  1926. <i>the transformer of nutrients.</i>
  1927.  
  1928. 430
  1929. 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,600
  1930. <i>All of it ends up in liquid manure.</i>
  1931.  
  1932. 431
  1933. 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,240
  1934. Farmers here
  1935. purchase protein from overseas
  1936.  
  1937. 432
  1938. 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,280
  1939. and protein consists mainly of nitrogen.
  1940.  
  1941. 433
  1942. 00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:02,640
  1943. We import high amounts of nitrogen
  1944.  
  1945. 434
  1946. 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:07,720
  1947. which then don't get transferred
  1948. back to the originating countries
  1949.  
  1950. 435
  1951. 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,680
  1952. but instead end up on our own fields.
  1953.  
  1954. 436
  1955. 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,360
  1956. This means we have
  1957. a considerable import of nitrogen.
  1958.  
  1959. 437
  1960. 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:22,240
  1961. Our fields have to cope with
  1962. these purchased amounts of nitrogen.
  1963.  
  1964. 438
  1965. 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,400
  1966. High amounts of nitrogen
  1967. can lead to risks of emissions.
  1968.  
  1969. 439
  1970. 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,200
  1971. Nitrate can be washed out into the soil.
  1972.  
  1973. 440
  1974. 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:36,560
  1975. Ammonia vents when organic fertilizers
  1976. are applied.
  1977.  
  1978. 441
  1979. 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,800
  1980. Or nitrate in the soil
  1981. turns into nitrous oxide
  1982.  
  1983. 442
  1984. 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,920
  1985. which then is released into the atmosphere
  1986. and is extremely damaging to the climate.
  1987.  
  1988. 443
  1989. 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,440
  1990. Some countries, Holland for example,
  1991.  
  1992. 444
  1993. 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,960
  1994. solve these issues by selling
  1995. liquid manure internationally.
  1996.  
  1997. 445
  1998. 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,520
  1999. That way their own soil
  2000. isn't overburdened.
  2001.  
  2002. 446
  2003. 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,720
  2004. <i>Nitrates in</i>
  2005. <i>the groundwater are so dangerous</i>
  2006.  
  2007. 447
  2008. 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,400
  2009. <i>because they are converted into nitrites</i>
  2010. <i>in our body.</i>
  2011.  
  2012. 448
  2013. 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,600
  2014. <i>Nitrites, in turn,</i>
  2015. <i>prevent the transportation of oxygen</i>
  2016.  
  2017. 449
  2018. 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,800
  2019. <i>and are suspected carcinogens.</i>
  2020.  
  2021. 450
  2022. 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,160
  2023. <i>Tests show excessive quantities</i>
  2024. <i>of nitrates in a third of German wells.</i>
  2025.  
  2026. 451
  2027. 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,640
  2028. <i>In Holland, the soil in now so burdened</i>
  2029. <i>that the EU is threatening</i>
  2030.  
  2031. 452
  2032. 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:35,280
  2033. <i>to prohibit all milk production.</i>
  2034.  
  2035. 453
  2036. 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,880
  2037. <i>The system exposes farmers to pressure,</i>
  2038. <i>ruins our environment,</i>
  2039.  
  2040. 454
  2041. 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,040
  2042. <i>and encourages</i>
  2043. <i>cattle breeding </i>ad absurdum,
  2044.  
  2045. 455
  2046. 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,920
  2047. <i>and yet more milk</i>
  2048. <i>is being produced every year.</i>
  2049.  
  2050. 456
  2051. 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,840
  2052. <i>The departure from conventional</i>
  2053. <i>milk production on Alexander's farm</i>
  2054.  
  2055. 457
  2056. 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,640
  2057. <i>hasn't been entirely free of friction.</i>
  2058.  
  2059. 458
  2060. 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,720
  2061. I gave him the farm...
  2062.  
  2063. 459
  2064. 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,560
  2065. understanding that he would
  2066. continue the work
  2067.  
  2068. 460
  2069. 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:37,120
  2070. in a way that suits him
  2071. or the way he wished to do it.
  2072.  
  2073. 461
  2074. 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,600
  2075. So I did back off...
  2076.  
  2077. 462
  2078. 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,200
  2079. but on occasion I got frustrated watching.
  2080.  
  2081. 463
  2082. 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,640
  2083. I was a successful breeder
  2084.  
  2085. 464
  2086. 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:51,400
  2087. and the cattle performance was good.
  2088.  
  2089. 465
  2090. 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,720
  2091. Of course, I had problems as well,
  2092.  
  2093. 466
  2094. 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,800
  2095. but I accepted the problems
  2096. so I would still have the high yields.
  2097.  
  2098. 467
  2099. 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,200
  2100. My fellow farmers
  2101.  
  2102. 468
  2103. 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,960
  2104. respected and accepted me
  2105. as one of their own.
  2106.  
  2107. 469
  2108. 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,520
  2109. Our small cheesemaking business
  2110. has made a name for itself.
  2111.  
  2112. 470
  2113. 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,240
  2114. We could sell much more than we produce.
  2115.  
  2116. 471
  2117. 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,240
  2118. And using simple techniques
  2119. to increase production
  2120.  
  2121. 472
  2122. 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:21,040
  2123. in order to sell more
  2124. and make more profit,
  2125.  
  2126. 473
  2127. 00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:23,960
  2128. that's a speculative thought.
  2129.  
  2130. 474
  2131. 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,880
  2132. I think we simply have two completely
  2133. different views...
  2134.  
  2135. 475
  2136. 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,600
  2137. of profitability.
  2138.  
  2139. 476
  2140. 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:35,280
  2141. One entails high amounts of milk,
  2142. high revenue,
  2143.  
  2144. 477
  2145. 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,960
  2146. high costs.
  2147.  
  2148. 478
  2149. 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,680
  2150. And mine is low amounts of milk,
  2151. low revenue, low costs.
  2152.  
  2153. 479
  2154. 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,000
  2155. Research has shown
  2156.  
  2157. 480
  2158. 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,800
  2159. that the most intensive
  2160. and the most extensive models
  2161.  
  2162. 481
  2163. 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,840
  2164. are the most successful economically.
  2165.  
  2166. 482
  2167. 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,440
  2168. So... we're both right.
  2169.  
  2170. 483
  2171. 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,360
  2172. But for me,
  2173. the ecological impact is important
  2174.  
  2175. 484
  2176. 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,440
  2177. and we don't include environmental costs
  2178. into calculations,
  2179.  
  2180. 485
  2181. 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,680
  2182. so I'm a bit more right.
  2183.  
  2184. 486
  2185. 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,040
  2186. First and foremost,
  2187. it needs to be authentic,
  2188.  
  2189. 487
  2190. 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,240
  2191. meaning the cow eats what it can find.
  2192.  
  2193. 488
  2194. 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,920
  2195. They give half of the amount of milk
  2196.  
  2197. 489
  2198. 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,440
  2199. that we used to produce.
  2200.  
  2201. 490
  2202. 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,080
  2203. But it's good milk.
  2204.  
  2205. 491
  2206. 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,840
  2207. <i>Alexander has no problems with his manure.</i>
  2208.  
  2209. 492
  2210. 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,400
  2211. <i>He processes his cow dung</i>
  2212. <i>into high quality compost.</i>
  2213.  
  2214. 493
  2215. 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,280
  2216. This used to be manure but
  2217. now it smells like soil from the woods.
  2218.  
  2219. 494
  2220. 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,000
  2221. I don't fertilize the plants...
  2222.  
  2223. 495
  2224. 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,400
  2225. I fertilize the land.
  2226.  
  2227. 496
  2228. 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,800
  2229. A handful of this topsoil...
  2230.  
  2231. 497
  2232. 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,560
  2233. in this handful
  2234.  
  2235. 498
  2236. 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,080
  2237. we have more microbes
  2238. than humans on this planet.
  2239.  
  2240. 499
  2241. 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,080
  2242. And when I use this fertilizer,
  2243. I feed those microbes.
  2244.  
  2245. 500
  2246. 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,200
  2247. That's the paradigm shift.
  2248.  
  2249. 501
  2250. 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,320
  2251. We need to get off the tractor,
  2252.  
  2253. 502
  2254. 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,760
  2255. touch our soil and understand it.
  2256.  
  2257. 503
  2258. 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,240
  2259. This is essentially the secret
  2260. of successful ecological agriculture,
  2261.  
  2262. 504
  2263. 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,600
  2264. at least in my opinion.
  2265.  
  2266. 505
  2267. 00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:56,480
  2268. <i>The milk branch meets annually</i>
  2269.  
  2270. 506
  2271. 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,200
  2272. <i>at the World Dairy Summit.</i>
  2273.  
  2274. 507
  2275. 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,560
  2276. <i>Everyone plays their part</i>
  2277.  
  2278. 508
  2279. 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,000
  2280. <i>to persuade consumers</i>
  2281. <i>with innovative strategies</i>
  2282.  
  2283. 509
  2284. 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,360
  2285. <i>about how healthy and beneficial</i>
  2286. <i>milk products are.</i>
  2287.  
  2288. 510
  2289. 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,240
  2290. The biggest challenge of the future
  2291. is to produce sufficient...
  2292.  
  2293. 511
  2294. 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,480
  2295. milk and dairy products
  2296. to feed the global population.
  2297.  
  2298. 512
  2299. 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,480
  2300. When you look at how much dairy
  2301. we are supposed to consume,
  2302.  
  2303. 513
  2304. 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,480
  2305. in Europe and many countries,
  2306. like the Netherlands,
  2307.  
  2308. 514
  2309. 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,360
  2310. it's advised to have three servings
  2311. of dairy a day.
  2312.  
  2313. 515
  2314. 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,960
  2315. In some other parts
  2316. of the world they, um...
  2317.  
  2318. 516
  2319. 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,800
  2320. advise two servings a day.
  2321.  
  2322. 517
  2323. 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,760
  2324. Suppose you go for two servings,
  2325.  
  2326. 518
  2327. 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,200
  2328. and then when you look at how many people
  2329. there will be in the world in 2050,
  2330.  
  2331. 519
  2332. 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,360
  2333. if everybody would have
  2334. two servings of dairy,
  2335.  
  2336. 520
  2337. 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,960
  2338. we would need to double
  2339. the production we have today.
  2340.  
  2341. 521
  2342. 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,160
  2343. We are actually not selling.
  2344.  
  2345. 522
  2346. 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,160
  2347. We are talking here about
  2348. the "First 1000 Days" concept,
  2349.  
  2350. 523
  2351. 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,440
  2352. which is a scientific concept
  2353. that we embraced as a company.
  2354.  
  2355. 524
  2356. 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,400
  2357. And together with a partner,
  2358.  
  2359. 525
  2360. 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,680
  2361. so, like medical institutions,
  2362. but also NGOs, governmental authorities,
  2363.  
  2364. 526
  2365. 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,040
  2366. we educate society
  2367. about the importance of nutrition.
  2368.  
  2369. 527
  2370. 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,040
  2371. The consumer will be open
  2372. to the communication
  2373.  
  2374. 528
  2375. 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,760
  2376. that is provided by our products.
  2377.  
  2378. 529
  2379. 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,120
  2380. So, therefore, we as a business can say,
  2381. "Okay!"
  2382.  
  2383. 530
  2384. 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,160
  2385. And now we offer a range of products,
  2386.  
  2387. 531
  2388. 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:18,240
  2389. because we have a large portfolio,
  2390.  
  2391. 532
  2392. 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,880
  2393. and now, you,
  2394. knowing how important this is,
  2395.  
  2396. 533
  2397. 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,600
  2398. you can consciously choose.
  2399.  
  2400. 534
  2401. 00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:23,960
  2402. What are you looking for?
  2403.  
  2404. 535
  2405. 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,120
  2406. Are you looking for something
  2407. that will help your child digest?
  2408.  
  2409. 536
  2410. 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,920
  2411. Are you looking for infant formula?
  2412.  
  2413. 537
  2414. 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,840
  2415. Are you looking for follow-on formula?
  2416.  
  2417. 538
  2418. 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,880
  2419. So it's Yakult.
  2420. It's a bottle full of live bacteria
  2421.  
  2422. 539
  2423. 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,280
  2424. and they reach the intestines alive.
  2425.  
  2426. 540
  2427. 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,480
  2428. Okay. And what that does happen
  2429. in my body if I drink it?
  2430.  
  2431. 541
  2432. 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:44,560
  2433. Yeah, that's the problem.
  2434.  
  2435. 542
  2436. 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:50,720
  2437. There's a legal European law
  2438. that prohibits me to tell you about it.
  2439.  
  2440. 543
  2441. 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,240
  2442. It's almost a moral imperative
  2443. to feed the world.
  2444.  
  2445. 544
  2446. 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,360
  2447. I mean, we should.
  2448.  
  2449. 545
  2450. 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,720
  2451. We have a growing world population.
  2452.  
  2453. 546
  2454. 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,800
  2455. We should be able to go
  2456. to feed these people.
  2457.  
  2458. 547
  2459. 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,880
  2460. Some people are even saying
  2461. food is a human right.
  2462.  
  2463. 548
  2464. 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:07,320
  2465. The cow's milk
  2466. is the sourcing that we really rely on.
  2467.  
  2468. 549
  2469. 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,920
  2470. But we modified it,
  2471.  
  2472. 550
  2473. 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,120
  2474. which means that some ingredients
  2475. we have to remove
  2476.  
  2477. 551
  2478. 00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:14,360
  2479. and some ingredients we have to add
  2480.  
  2481. 552
  2482. 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,160
  2483. to mimic, in the best possible way,
  2484. breast milk.
  2485.  
  2486. 553
  2487. 00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:19,960
  2488. So, when the cattle is being born,
  2489.  
  2490. 554
  2491. 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:24,080
  2492. the milk that the cow is providing
  2493. is for the cattle to grow.
  2494.  
  2495. 555
  2496. 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,560
  2497. It's also for the cattle
  2498. to grow horns and hooves.
  2499.  
  2500. 556
  2501. 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,760
  2502. And for us humans, that's, let's say...
  2503.  
  2504. 557
  2505. 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,120
  2506. not necessary.
  2507.  
  2508. 558
  2509. 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:37,040
  2510. So, probably maybe we could, you know,
  2511. milk chimpanzees.
  2512.  
  2513. 559
  2514. 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:42,320
  2515. But, again, in terms of accessibility,
  2516. well, that wouldn't be very smart.
  2517.  
  2518. 560
  2519. 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,080
  2520. We are not allowed
  2521. to speak to consumers
  2522.  
  2523. 561
  2524. 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,160
  2525. on the health effects of our products,
  2526. unfortunately.
  2527.  
  2528. 562
  2529. 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,800
  2530. So... they don't know.
  2531.  
  2532. 563
  2533. 00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:57,040
  2534. <i>The health-promoting effect</i>
  2535. <i>of milk products</i>
  2536.  
  2537. 564
  2538. 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,760
  2539. <i>is the industry's main selling point.</i>
  2540.  
  2541. 565
  2542. 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,400
  2543. <i>Thirty grams</i>
  2544. <i>of milk fat, 35 grams of protein,</i>
  2545.  
  2546. 566
  2547. 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,840
  2548. <i>47 grams of lactose,</i>
  2549. <i>seven grams mineral salts,</i>
  2550.  
  2551. 567
  2552. 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,560
  2553. <i>and all essential vitamins</i>
  2554. <i>can be found in one liter of milk.</i>
  2555.  
  2556. 568
  2557. 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,640
  2558. <i>From the first day of our lives,</i>
  2559.  
  2560. 569
  2561. 00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:20,520
  2562. <i>milk benefits our health.</i>
  2563.  
  2564. 570
  2565. 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,200
  2566. <i> In Europe, it's only since</i>
  2567. <i>the 50s and 60s</i>
  2568.  
  2569. 571
  2570. 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,680
  2571. <i>that we have increased</i>
  2572. <i>our milk consumption. </i>
  2573.  
  2574. 572
  2575. 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,200
  2576. <i>We were taught from an early age</i>
  2577.  
  2578. 573
  2579. 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,200
  2580. <i>that it's an elixir of life.</i>
  2581.  
  2582. 574
  2583. 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,920
  2584. <i>But is milk anywhere near as healthy</i>
  2585. <i>as we are told it is?</i>
  2586.  
  2587. 575
  2588. 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,400
  2589. <i>♪ It's marvelous what it can do!♪</i>
  2590.  
  2591. 576
  2592. 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:41,560
  2593. <i>♪ And with its protein it provides</i>
  2594. <i>Strength for our muscles♪</i>
  2595.  
  2596. 577
  2597. 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,800
  2598. In Northern European/
  2599. North American culture,
  2600.  
  2601. 578
  2602. 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,160
  2603. milk has been very important.
  2604.  
  2605. 579
  2606. 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,160
  2607. In part, it's enabled us to live
  2608. in a cold climate
  2609.  
  2610. 580
  2611. 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,720
  2612. where we don't have fruits and vegetables
  2613.  
  2614. 581
  2615. 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,720
  2616. and other foods available all year round,
  2617.  
  2618. 582
  2619. 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,440
  2620. like in a more temperate
  2621. or tropical climate.
  2622.  
  2623. 583
  2624. 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,680
  2625. It did allow us to survive
  2626.  
  2627. 584
  2628. 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,640
  2629. until we're 45 or 50 years of age
  2630. and we could reproduce.
  2631.  
  2632. 585
  2633. 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,080
  2634. But today we would like
  2635. to live longer and be healthier
  2636.  
  2637. 586
  2638. 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,040
  2639. for many decades longer.
  2640.  
  2641. 587
  2642. 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:16,760
  2643. and that northern climate
  2644. way of consuming food,
  2645.  
  2646. 588
  2647. 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,440
  2648. that diet of northern climates,
  2649.  
  2650. 589
  2651. 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,480
  2652. has turned out not to be
  2653. optimally healthy.
  2654.  
  2655. 590
  2656. 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,120
  2657. I don't want milk. Milk's for babies.
  2658.  
  2659. 591
  2660. 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,880
  2661. Yeah, babies.
  2662.  
  2663. 592
  2664. 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,320
  2665. Oh, yeah? Well, I happen to know
  2666. that milk helps build strong bones.
  2667.  
  2668. 593
  2669. 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:30,360
  2670. So drink up.
  2671.  
  2672. 594
  2673. 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,280
  2674. Well, Mr. Miller told me
  2675. he never drinks milk.
  2676.  
  2677. 595
  2678. 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,200
  2679. -And look at him.
  2680. -Yeah.
  2681.  
  2682. 596
  2683. 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:36,920
  2684. Hi, kids!
  2685.  
  2686. 597
  2687. 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,760
  2688. Oh.
  2689.  
  2690. 598
  2691. 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,720
  2692. Oh, that's not good.
  2693.  
  2694. 599
  2695. 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,160
  2696. Prevention of bone fractures has been
  2697.  
  2698. 600
  2699. 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,760
  2700. the main rationale, the main justification
  2701.  
  2702. 601
  2703. 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,680
  2704. for consuming high amounts of milk.
  2705.  
  2706. 602
  2707. 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,320
  2708. So it's been perhaps an enigma, a paradox
  2709.  
  2710. 603
  2711. 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,760
  2712. that the countries that consume
  2713. the most milk
  2714.  
  2715. 604
  2716. 00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:01,880
  2717. actually have the highest fracture rates.
  2718.  
  2719. 605
  2720. 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,400
  2721. We've known that for quite a while.
  2722.  
  2723. 606
  2724. 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,840
  2725. And now we're starting to understand,
  2726. I think, at least some of the reason
  2727.  
  2728. 607
  2729. 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,160
  2730. why countries that consume a lot of milk
  2731. have the highest fracture rates.
  2732.  
  2733. 608
  2734. 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,400
  2735. We've been conducting several
  2736. large, long-term studies.
  2737.  
  2738. 609
  2739. 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,880
  2740. We have enrolled almost 300,000
  2741. men and women and adolescents
  2742.  
  2743. 610
  2744. 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,880
  2745. and followed them now for almost 40 years,
  2746.  
  2747. 611
  2748. 00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:27,680
  2749. keeping track of what they consume
  2750. as foods, the amount of milk they consume,
  2751.  
  2752. 612
  2753. 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,000
  2754. and also physical activity, smoking,
  2755.  
  2756. 613
  2757. 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,160
  2758. pretty much anything else we could
  2759. think of
  2760.  
  2761. 614
  2762. 00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:34,440
  2763. that might affect their health.
  2764.  
  2765. 615
  2766. 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,000
  2767. ♪ <i>Milk gives the body what it needs♪</i>
  2768.  
  2769. 616
  2770. 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,200
  2771. ♪ <i>So it stays fit, as you know♪</i>
  2772.  
  2773. 617
  2774. 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,280
  2775. <i>♪ Because only milk can do that♪</i>
  2776.  
  2777. 618
  2778. 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,520
  2779. <i>♪</i><i>From milk protein to calcium♪</i>
  2780.  
  2781. 619
  2782. 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,960
  2783. <i>♪</i> <i>Minerals to vitamins♪</i>
  2784.  
  2785. 620
  2786. 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,280
  2787. Milk is something that promotes growth.
  2788.  
  2789. 621
  2790. 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:56,040
  2791. That's the natural function of milk.
  2792. It's to make young mammals grow fast,
  2793.  
  2794. 622
  2795. 00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,120
  2796. make our cells multiply when we need to
  2797. at a young age.
  2798.  
  2799. 623
  2800. 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,160
  2801. But for the rest of our life,
  2802. especially as adults,
  2803.  
  2804. 624
  2805. 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,800
  2806. we don't necessarily want ourselves
  2807. to be multiplying fast.
  2808.  
  2809. 625
  2810. 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,480
  2811. That's one of the factors that we
  2812. understand helps promote cancer growth
  2813.  
  2814. 626
  2815. 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,760
  2816. and that has raised concerns
  2817. that high consumption of milk
  2818.  
  2819. 627
  2820. 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,160
  2821. may promote risk of cancer.
  2822.  
  2823. 628
  2824. 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,720
  2825. The evidence is strongest
  2826. for prostate cancer,
  2827.  
  2828. 629
  2829. 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,320
  2830. but it's possible that
  2831. high milk consumption
  2832.  
  2833. 630
  2834. 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,160
  2835. might increase the risk
  2836. of other cancers as well.
  2837.  
  2838. 631
  2839. 00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:36,160
  2840. I don't think we have to tell people
  2841. that they should stop drinking milk
  2842.  
  2843. 632
  2844. 00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:37,640
  2845. or not having any dairy.
  2846.  
  2847. 633
  2848. 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,400
  2849. I think having a range
  2850. of acceptable dairy consumption
  2851.  
  2852. 634
  2853. 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:43,840
  2854. would be better.
  2855.  
  2856. 635
  2857. 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,160
  2858. And I think that can include
  2859. zero dairy consumption
  2860.  
  2861. 636
  2862. 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,360
  2863. and probably maximum
  2864. about two servings a day of dairy,
  2865.  
  2866. 637
  2867. 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,200
  2868. but that's really not essential.
  2869.  
  2870. 638
  2871. 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,360
  2872. But if someone wants to have that amount,
  2873. I think it can be incorporated,
  2874.  
  2875. 639
  2876. 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,000
  2877. especially if that part of that
  2878. is in the form of yogurt.
  2879.  
  2880. 640
  2881. 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,160
  2882. <i>Walter Willett's studies</i>
  2883. <i>are among the most frequently cited</i>
  2884.  
  2885. 641
  2886. 00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:06,800
  2887. <i>in the specialist world.</i>
  2888.  
  2889. 642
  2890. 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,720
  2891. <i>And although the experts</i>
  2892. <i>discuss them heatedly, </i>
  2893.  
  2894. 643
  2895. 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,120
  2896. <i>one thing remains unchallenged.</i>
  2897.  
  2898. 644
  2899. 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,720
  2900. <i>Milk is not, per se,</i>
  2901. <i>as healthy as the industry claims. </i>
  2902.  
  2903. 645
  2904. 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,200
  2905. The industry, on a global scale,
  2906. is very alert to, uh...
  2907.  
  2908. 646
  2909. 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,040
  2910. some of these, you know, um...
  2911.  
  2912. 647
  2913. 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,200
  2914. pieces of science that comes out
  2915.  
  2916. 648
  2917. 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,480
  2918. and you have to take it very seriously.
  2919.  
  2920. 649
  2921. 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,960
  2922. I think that we have been,
  2923. for some time now,
  2924.  
  2925. 650
  2926. 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,120
  2927. in a trend where the overriding trend is
  2928.  
  2929. 651
  2930. 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,600
  2931. that dairy is actually
  2932. a very healthy and nutritious raw material
  2933.  
  2934. 652
  2935. 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,160
  2936. and that you can do lots
  2937. of wonderful things with dairy.
  2938.  
  2939. 653
  2940. 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,360
  2941. I think that's the overriding impression.
  2942.  
  2943. 654
  2944. 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,680
  2945. I also think, on the other side,
  2946.  
  2947. 655
  2948. 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,800
  2949. we as an industry need to understand
  2950. that we have to present our products
  2951.  
  2952. 656
  2953. 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,520
  2954. in a way that they are also indeed
  2955. natural and healthy.
  2956.  
  2957. 657
  2958. 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,120
  2959. So we are working
  2960. with less fat in our products
  2961.  
  2962. 658
  2963. 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,520
  2964. while maintaining a nice quality
  2965. that is worthwhile eating and drinking.
  2966.  
  2967. 659
  2968. 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,920
  2969. That's a difficult balance to strike.
  2970.  
  2971. 660
  2972. 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,040
  2973. So I think that if we're doing it
  2974. in a clever way as an industry,
  2975.  
  2976. 661
  2977. 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,280
  2978. the raw material of milk
  2979. has a bright future.
  2980.  
  2981. 662
  2982. 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,200
  2983. <i>Where is the core set</i>
  2984. <i>for milk production development?</i>
  2985.  
  2986. 663
  2987. 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,200
  2988. <i>On my travels it becomes apparent</i>
  2989. <i>that Brussels is the central setting</i>
  2990.  
  2991. 664
  2992. 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,280
  2993. <i>for the European dairy industry.</i>
  2994.  
  2995. 665
  2996. 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,160
  2997. <i>The handsome sum of 45 billion euros,</i>
  2998.  
  2999. 666
  3000. 00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:56,640
  3001. <i>the largest item on</i>
  3002. <i>the European Union's budget,</i>
  3003.  
  3004. 667
  3005. 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,520
  3006. <i>is spent there every year on agriculture.</i>
  3007.  
  3008. 668
  3009. 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,120
  3010. <i>Martin Häusling is a parliamentarian</i>
  3011. <i>and also an organic dairy farmer.</i>
  3012.  
  3013. 669
  3014. 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,360
  3015. One shouldn't imagine
  3016.  
  3017. 670
  3018. 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,600
  3019. that the EU parliament's
  3020. decision-making process
  3021.  
  3022. 671
  3023. 00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:18,480
  3024. is driven by farmers in Baden-Württemberg
  3025.  
  3026. 672
  3027. 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,400
  3028. or in Slovenia.
  3029.  
  3030. 673
  3031. 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,160
  3032. It's about the interests of an industry.
  3033.  
  3034. 674
  3035. 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,720
  3036. Milk is a cheap raw material
  3037. being mixed into lots of things.
  3038.  
  3039. 675
  3040. 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,720
  3041. It's being split up into its components
  3042. and is used in many industries,
  3043.  
  3044. 676
  3045. 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,840
  3046. from candy to supplements.
  3047.  
  3048. 677
  3049. 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,040
  3050. They want cheap materials.
  3051.  
  3052. 678
  3053. 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,680
  3054. And they want to make sure
  3055.  
  3056. 679
  3057. 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,600
  3058. that we always operate close to a surplus.
  3059.  
  3060. 680
  3061. 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,840
  3062. No one in the food sector
  3063.  
  3064. 681
  3065. 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,440
  3066. wants to have small amounts or amounts
  3067. that merely satisfy the European market.
  3068.  
  3069. 682
  3070. 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,760
  3071. They always want to be far over the limit.
  3072.  
  3073. 683
  3074. 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,840
  3075. We need to have a constant surplus
  3076. to be able strong-arm the producers
  3077.  
  3078. 684
  3079. 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:06,120
  3080. They can threaten them that if they
  3081. don't sell to them for a certain price,
  3082.  
  3083. 685
  3084. 00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:07,760
  3085. someone else in the EU will.
  3086.  
  3087. 686
  3088. 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,280
  3089. So we're not just looking
  3090. at the interests of 13 million farmers
  3091.  
  3092. 687
  3093. 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,320
  3094. who receive EU subsidies.
  3095.  
  3096. 688
  3097. 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,720
  3098. It's about the top players,
  3099. including the dairy factories.
  3100.  
  3101. 689
  3102. 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,640
  3103. And they mainly benefit from us
  3104.  
  3105. 690
  3106. 00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:29,760
  3107. exporting massive amounts of milk
  3108. for low prices globally.
  3109.  
  3110. 691
  3111. 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,640
  3112. <i>The COPA farmers organization</i>
  3113.  
  3114. 692
  3115. 00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:36,680
  3116. <i>is one of the most powerful lobby groups</i>
  3117. <i>in Brussels. </i>
  3118.  
  3119. 693
  3120. 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:42,160
  3121. <i>For decades, the organization has been</i>
  3122. <i>successfully promoting its interests here.</i>
  3123.  
  3124. 694
  3125. 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,560
  3126. Farming is the best business of them all.
  3127.  
  3128. 695
  3129. 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:46,720
  3130. It's the best...
  3131.  
  3132. 696
  3133. 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,400
  3134. I can't say "way of life"
  3135.  
  3136. 697
  3137. 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,480
  3138. because it's no longer, if it ever was,
  3139. a way of life.
  3140.  
  3141. 698
  3142. 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,560
  3143. It's a way of making a living.
  3144.  
  3145. 699
  3146. 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,120
  3147. And especially for those young farmers
  3148. and their families that enter the market,
  3149.  
  3150. 700
  3151. 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,400
  3152. it has to be a competitive form of...
  3153.  
  3154. 701
  3155. 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,480
  3156. let's say, livelihood.
  3157.  
  3158. 702
  3159. 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:09,000
  3160. And if that is not maintained,
  3161. there's no future for agriculture.
  3162.  
  3163. 703
  3164. 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,800
  3165. <i>How closely COPA</i>
  3166. <i>and the industry are actually intertwined</i>
  3167.  
  3168. 704
  3169. 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,400
  3170. <i>is something that Nina Holland</i>
  3171. <i>from Corporate Europe Observatory</i>
  3172.  
  3173. 705
  3174. 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:22,840
  3175. <i>can elucidate.</i>
  3176.  
  3177. 706
  3178. 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,440
  3179. There are roughly between
  3180. 20,000 and 30,000 lobbyists
  3181.  
  3182. 707
  3183. 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,520
  3184. based here in Brussels
  3185. and most of them work for the industry.
  3186.  
  3187. 708
  3188. 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,200
  3189. We can assume that the food lobby
  3190. is pretty big.
  3191.  
  3192. 709
  3193. 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,560
  3194. Okay. So here we are
  3195. at the office of FoodDrinkEurope
  3196.  
  3197. 710
  3198. 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,480
  3199. So, FoodDrinkEurope is a big lobby group
  3200.  
  3201. 711
  3202. 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:50,160
  3203. comprising all big food corporations,
  3204. including Nestlé, Danone, etc.
  3205.  
  3206. 712
  3207. 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,280
  3208. They are very much obviously in favor
  3209. of deregulation in general.
  3210.  
  3211. 713
  3212. 00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:01,040
  3213. They organized an event together
  3214. with COPA-COGECA, the farmer's lobby,
  3215.  
  3216. 714
  3217. 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,720
  3218. to say how much benefits Europe would have
  3219.  
  3220. 715
  3221. 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,280
  3222. and the food industry and the farmers
  3223. from TTIP.
  3224.  
  3225. 716
  3226. 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,440
  3227. And, of course, it was a bit odd
  3228. that the farmers would
  3229.  
  3230. 717
  3231. 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,640
  3232. sit together with the food industry.
  3233.  
  3234. 718
  3235. 00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:20,920
  3236. It clearly fits into the logic
  3237. and philosophy of COPA-COGECA to actually
  3238.  
  3239. 719
  3240. 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,120
  3241. fight for the so-called 10% of farmers
  3242.  
  3243. 720
  3244. 00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:28,000
  3245. who will become the most modernized,
  3246. most industrialized,
  3247.  
  3248. 721
  3249. 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,280
  3250. who can operate and can be competitive
  3251. on the world market
  3252.  
  3253. 722
  3254. 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,320
  3255. and not actually defend the interests
  3256. of all farmers.
  3257.  
  3258. 723
  3259. 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,720
  3260. The whole agri-food chain turnover,
  3261. and especially if you measure that
  3262.  
  3263. 724
  3264. 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,400
  3265. from the industry to retail level,
  3266.  
  3267. 725
  3268. 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:48,680
  3269. is somewhere close to
  3270. 1.4 to 1.5 trillion euro.
  3271.  
  3272. 726
  3273. 00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:51,360
  3274. So it's a staggering number.
  3275.  
  3276. 727
  3277. 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,320
  3278. And it is the biggest economic sector
  3279. for the moment.
  3280.  
  3281. 728
  3282. 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,360
  3283. It's bigger than the automobile industry.
  3284.  
  3285. 729
  3286. 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,960
  3287. It's bigger than the chemical industry.
  3288.  
  3289. 730
  3290. 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,800
  3291. We produce more per hectare.
  3292.  
  3293. 731
  3294. 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:06,920
  3295. We produce more per animal.
  3296.  
  3297. 732
  3298. 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,320
  3299. This is particularly the strength
  3300. of the European Union, agriculture.
  3301.  
  3302. 733
  3303. 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,320
  3304. It is really important for us
  3305. that we maintain this productivity trend.
  3306.  
  3307. 734
  3308. 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,840
  3309. <i>But why must a trend be maintained</i>
  3310.  
  3311. 735
  3312. 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,280
  3313. <i>when the European market</i>
  3314. <i>has long-since been saturated?</i>
  3315.  
  3316. 736
  3317. 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,800
  3318. You have to think back to the year 2000.
  3319.  
  3320. 737
  3321. 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,600
  3322. Not only the agriculture market
  3323. was deregulated
  3324.  
  3325. 738
  3326. 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,040
  3327. but also financial markets were.
  3328.  
  3329. 739
  3330. 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,960
  3331. The basic belief was...
  3332.  
  3333. 740
  3334. 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,600
  3335. anything not regulated by the state
  3336. will be regulated by the free market
  3337.  
  3338. 741
  3339. 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:40,640
  3340. and it'll be better.
  3341.  
  3342. 742
  3343. 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:47,240
  3344. And so the European agricultural policy,
  3345. which in fact was highly regulated,
  3346.  
  3347. 743
  3348. 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,000
  3349. was opened to the world market.
  3350.  
  3351. 744
  3352. 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:55,760
  3353. The farmers received some direct payments
  3354.  
  3355. 745
  3356. 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,720
  3357. but were told,
  3358. "Go ahead and produce what you want,
  3359.  
  3360. 746
  3361. 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,280
  3362. the market will take it.
  3363.  
  3364. 747
  3365. 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,000
  3366. And the big growing markets like
  3367.  
  3368. 748
  3369. 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,280
  3370. China, Africa, Middle East,
  3371. maybe South America,
  3372.  
  3373. 749
  3374. 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,120
  3375. are the markets that we needed to serve."
  3376.  
  3377. 750
  3378. 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,280
  3379. The driving thought was us
  3380. providing food for the world.
  3381.  
  3382. 751
  3383. 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,320
  3384. <i>So it's no longer</i>
  3385. <i>about securing European food supply</i>
  3386.  
  3387. 752
  3388. 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,240
  3389. <i>as was the declared aim</i>
  3390. <i>of the European agricultural policy.</i>
  3391.  
  3392. 753
  3393. 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,800
  3394. <i>European farmers are now</i>
  3395. <i>supposed to produce for world export</i>
  3396.  
  3397. 754
  3398. 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:36,760
  3399. <i>and at the same time facilitate growth</i>
  3400. <i>for the agricultural conglomerates.</i>
  3401.  
  3402. 755
  3403. 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,760
  3404. We're in a situation today
  3405.  
  3406. 756
  3407. 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:44,320
  3408. where it's evident that the growth
  3409. in dairy consumption per capita
  3410.  
  3411. 757
  3412. 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,000
  3413. is growing outside of Europe
  3414.  
  3415. 758
  3416. 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,880
  3417. The European consumers are getting
  3418. more advanced and more demanding
  3419.  
  3420. 759
  3421. 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,680
  3422. and want a lot of innovation but
  3423. the consumption as such is not growing.
  3424.  
  3425. 760
  3426. 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,760
  3427. But outside of Europe is for the industry,
  3428. I think for the European dairy industry,
  3429.  
  3430. 761
  3431. 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,600
  3432. extremely important
  3433. and that's the nut that we need to crack.
  3434.  
  3435. 762
  3436. 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,680
  3437. All of us, one way or the other.
  3438.  
  3439. 763
  3440. 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,400
  3441. And we are trying to do different
  3442. strategies, the companies in between.
  3443.  
  3444. 764
  3445. 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,720
  3446. <i>But how does one</i>
  3447. <i>make a population group happy</i>
  3448.  
  3449. 765
  3450. 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,360
  3451. <i>with something they don't know at all?</i>
  3452.  
  3453. 766
  3454. 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,040
  3455. <i>This business coup can be best admired</i>
  3456. <i>taking the example of China.</i>
  3457.  
  3458. 767
  3459. 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,920
  3460. So, basically, what we tell them is
  3461.  
  3462. 768
  3463. 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,200
  3464. that if you drink milk,
  3465.  
  3466. 769
  3467. 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,600
  3468. you get proteins and nutrition
  3469. that makes you strong and tall.
  3470.  
  3471. 770
  3472. 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,600
  3473. So the Asian population
  3474. is in need for strength,
  3475.  
  3476. 771
  3477. 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,440
  3478. resilience, strong families.
  3479.  
  3480. 772
  3481. 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,280
  3482. They also like to be tall
  3483. because they believe that
  3484.  
  3485. 773
  3486. 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,360
  3487. when you're more tall
  3488. you're more successful in life
  3489.  
  3490. 774
  3491. 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:49,720
  3492. and you're more healthy.
  3493.  
  3494. 775
  3495. 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,080
  3496. And what you see is that small babies
  3497. that get infant nutrition
  3498.  
  3499. 776
  3500. 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,240
  3501. will stay with a milk diet.
  3502.  
  3503. 777
  3504. 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,160
  3505. And when kids are drinking milk
  3506.  
  3507. 778
  3508. 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,520
  3509. also the families
  3510. are starting to drink milk.
  3511.  
  3512. 779
  3513. 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,800
  3514. So people, slowly but steady,
  3515. get more milk into their diets.
  3516.  
  3517. 780
  3518. 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,160
  3519. <i>In China's supermarkets</i>
  3520.  
  3521. 781
  3522. 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,720
  3523. <i>I don't just find</i>
  3524. <i>chic UHT milk six-packs</i>
  3525.  
  3526. 782
  3527. 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:28,840
  3528. <i>but also endless shelves of baby food</i>
  3529. <i>unlike anything I've ever seen in Europe.</i>
  3530.  
  3531. 783
  3532. 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:36,920
  3533. Is it true that people in China drink milk
  3534. because they want to grow higher?
  3535.  
  3536. 784
  3537. 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,600
  3538. Yes, for their kids.
  3539.  
  3540. 785
  3541. 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,960
  3542. In my knowledge, at least,
  3543. calcium is good for your bones
  3544.  
  3545. 786
  3546. 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,480
  3547. and then you drink as a small kid
  3548. and hopefully you'll grow taller.
  3549.  
  3550. 787
  3551. 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:54,080
  3552. <i>Given the rise is prosperity,</i>
  3553. <i>milk has become overnight</i>
  3554.  
  3555. 788
  3556. 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,520
  3557. <i>a fashionable Western consumer item</i>
  3558. <i>for the Chinese.</i>
  3559.  
  3560. 789
  3561. 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,120
  3562. <i>China drinks milk.</i>
  3563.  
  3564. 790
  3565. 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,600
  3566. <i>This announcement</i>
  3567. <i>was essentially the green light</i>
  3568.  
  3569. 791
  3570. 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,680
  3571. <i>for the liberalization</i>
  3572. <i>of the European milk market</i>
  3573.  
  3574. 792
  3575. 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,600
  3576. <i>and the race for the top</i>
  3577. <i>in the Chinese market.</i>
  3578.  
  3579. 793
  3580. 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,640
  3581. <i>But in China,</i>
  3582. <i>huge native production structures</i>
  3583.  
  3584. 794
  3585. 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,160
  3586. <i>have been created in almost no time.</i>
  3587.  
  3588. 795
  3589. 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,520
  3590. Total investment was 10 billion RMB.
  3591.  
  3592. 796
  3593. 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,640
  3594. Daily capacity is 2,000 tons fresh milk.
  3595.  
  3596. 797
  3597. 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:32,240
  3598. So we think this is the biggest
  3599. liquid milk workshop in the world.
  3600.  
  3601. 798
  3602. 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,400
  3603. Now you can see this is Arla,
  3604.  
  3605. 799
  3606. 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,320
  3607. it's our third largest shareholder.
  3608.  
  3609. 800
  3610. 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,640
  3611. We cooperate with Arla Foods
  3612. mainly in farm management.
  3613.  
  3614. 801
  3615. 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:19,880
  3616. And this one is for Danone.
  3617. Danone is our second largest shareholder.
  3618.  
  3619. 802
  3620. 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:25,760
  3621. We established a cooperation company
  3622. with Danone to produce yogurt.
  3623.  
  3624. 803
  3625. 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:31,120
  3626. Now here you can see our very beautiful
  3627. European-style street.
  3628.  
  3629. 804
  3630. 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:39,360
  3631. Because we want our visitors
  3632. stay here very relaxed.
  3633.  
  3634. 805
  3635. 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,040
  3636. And they can take some pictures,
  3637.  
  3638. 806
  3639. 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:46,720
  3640. they can know the history
  3641. and origin of milk.
  3642.  
  3643. 807
  3644. 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,920
  3645. <i>In Europe,</i>
  3646. <i>farmers need the support of their dairies.</i>
  3647.  
  3648. 808
  3649. 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,880
  3650. <i>But these are investing in China</i>
  3651.  
  3652. 809
  3653. 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,880
  3654. <i>and thereby increasing pressure</i>
  3655. <i>on European farmers.</i>
  3656.  
  3657. 810
  3658. 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:06,400
  3659. Around this plant we have many big farms.
  3660.  
  3661. 811
  3662. 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:10,440
  3663. Like, on one farm,
  3664. there are more than 10,000 cows.
  3665.  
  3666. 812
  3667. 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:23,120
  3668. In China,
  3669. there was not a established dairy system.
  3670.  
  3671. 813
  3672. 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,960
  3673. We learned from
  3674. the experiences of other countries
  3675.  
  3676. 814
  3677. 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,600
  3678. how they manage and operate
  3679. a large dairy farm.
  3680.  
  3681. 815
  3682. 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,400
  3683. What is especially problematic here
  3684. is the large number of cows we have.
  3685.  
  3686. 816
  3687. 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,040
  3688. I myself was honored to have participated
  3689.  
  3690. 817
  3691. 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,080
  3692. in the building of
  3693. the largest dairy farm in China
  3694.  
  3695. 818
  3696. 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:17,040
  3697. <i>EVERYTHING ELSE IS POINTLESS</i>
  3698. <i>IF THERE IS A QUALITY ISSUE WITH RAW MILK</i>
  3699.  
  3700. 819
  3701. 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:42,640
  3702. We didn't believe it
  3703. when they said
  3704.  
  3705. 820
  3706. 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,240
  3707. the Chinese would drink everything up.
  3708.  
  3709. 821
  3710. 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,200
  3711. That we wouldn't be able
  3712. to produce enough in the future.
  3713.  
  3714. 822
  3715. 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,760
  3716. In the weekly papers we kept reading
  3717.  
  3718. 823
  3719. 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,720
  3720. we should prepare for the future.
  3721. That's what every paper said.
  3722.  
  3723. 824
  3724. 01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:00,040
  3725. Our farmer's association always said,
  3726. "We are competitive!"
  3727.  
  3728. 825
  3729. 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:04,280
  3730. That German farmers remain competitive.
  3731. We're not afraid of competition.
  3732.  
  3733. 826
  3734. 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,920
  3735. "China will drink us dry!"
  3736. That's what the associations said
  3737.  
  3738. 827
  3739. 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:13,360
  3740. And all dairy factories said they
  3741. can market everything for a good price.
  3742.  
  3743. 828
  3744. 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,080
  3745. But it didn't happen that way.
  3746.  
  3747. 829
  3748. 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,880
  3749. STOP FARMS FROM DYING
  3750. REDUCE AMOUNTS, DON'T RUIN FARMERS
  3751.  
  3752. 830
  3753. 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,560
  3754. <i>Since 2008, many milk farmers</i>
  3755.  
  3756. 831
  3757. 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,840
  3758. <i>have been regularly protesting</i>
  3759. <i>against dumping prices</i>
  3760.  
  3761. 832
  3762. 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,120
  3763. <i>in the hope of influencing decisions</i>
  3764. <i>taken in Brussels.</i>
  3765.  
  3766. 833
  3767. 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:35,920
  3768. <i>Official farmer associations are</i>
  3769. <i>seldom to be seen at the demonstrations. </i>
  3770.  
  3771. 834
  3772. 01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,400
  3773. We attended
  3774. demonstrations where I learned a lot.
  3775.  
  3776. 835
  3777. 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,960
  3778. I talked to other farmers
  3779. and everyone had the same issues.
  3780.  
  3781. 836
  3782. 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,920
  3783. FREEDOM, EQUALITY, FARMING
  3784.  
  3785. 837
  3786. 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,160
  3787. We all have the same thoughts.
  3788.  
  3789. 838
  3790. 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,960
  3791. That's when I realized
  3792. that we're being screwed over.
  3793.  
  3794. 839
  3795. 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,400
  3796. We went on strike
  3797. and tried to change things
  3798.  
  3799. 840
  3800. 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,600
  3801. so we'd head in the right direction again.
  3802.  
  3803. 841
  3804. 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,200
  3805. But our farmer's association
  3806. worked against us with all means.
  3807.  
  3808. 842
  3809. 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,280
  3810. We've been producing a surplus of milk
  3811. for decades.
  3812.  
  3813. 843
  3814. 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,440
  3815. This could've been regulated.
  3816.  
  3817. 844
  3818. 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,040
  3819. But they didn't want to.
  3820.  
  3821. 845
  3822. 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:23,800
  3823. Everything had to be cheap at all times.
  3824. The surplus is what breaks us.
  3825.  
  3826. 846
  3827. 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,400
  3828. After the strike we knew
  3829. that this was all planned.
  3830.  
  3831. 847
  3832. 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,440
  3833. The way things are,
  3834. it's all intentional.
  3835.  
  3836. 848
  3837. 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,640
  3838. That the milk price
  3839. is not intended to go up.
  3840.  
  3841. 849
  3842. 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:37,120
  3843. Milk as a raw material is supposed
  3844. to be cheap for the dairy factories.
  3845.  
  3846. 850
  3847. 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:38,480
  3848. And for retail.
  3849.  
  3850. 851
  3851. 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:47,120
  3852. <i>In order to store</i>
  3853. <i>milk longer and transport it globally,</i>
  3854.  
  3855. 852
  3856. 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,320
  3857. <i>the industry transforms it</i>
  3858. <i>into powdered milk</i>
  3859.  
  3860. 853
  3861. 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,400
  3862. <i>in an energy intensive</i>
  3863. <i>drying process.</i>
  3864.  
  3865. 854
  3866. 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,920
  3867. The farmers have actually produced so much
  3868. more milk because it was attractive,
  3869.  
  3870. 855
  3871. 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,960
  3872. if you go back a year ago,
  3873. that the market over-flooded.
  3874.  
  3875. 856
  3876. 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:09,680
  3877. Then again the whole industry,
  3878.  
  3879. 857
  3880. 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,440
  3881. whether you were a big company
  3882. and a branded player,
  3883.  
  3884. 858
  3885. 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,840
  3886. or a private label player,
  3887. or a small player.
  3888.  
  3889. 859
  3890. 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,760
  3891. You have to find a home for your milk
  3892. and your products
  3893.  
  3894. 860
  3895. 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,160
  3896. and that drives competition
  3897. and it drives price competition.
  3898.  
  3899. 861
  3900. 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,280
  3901. <i>But what is to be done</i>
  3902. <i>with all these goods?</i>
  3903.  
  3904. 862
  3905. 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:26,960
  3906. <i>New markets are needed,</i>
  3907.  
  3908. 863
  3909. 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:31,440
  3910. <i>so the EU reaches new made-to-measure</i>
  3911. <i>free trade agreements</i>
  3912.  
  3913. 864
  3914. 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,160
  3915. <i>with parts of Africa.</i>
  3916.  
  3917. 865
  3918. 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,600
  3919. <i>These also guarantee long-term,</i>
  3920. <i>low import duties</i>
  3921.  
  3922. 866
  3923. 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,520
  3924. <i>for European milk products.</i>
  3925.  
  3926. 867
  3927. 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,920
  3928. The powdered milk
  3929. that mainly comes from Europe
  3930.  
  3931. 868
  3932. 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,440
  3933. is offloaded here in the port of Dakar
  3934.  
  3935. 869
  3936. 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,680
  3937. to then be distributed
  3938. all around the country here in Senegal.
  3939.  
  3940. 870
  3941. 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,440
  3942. <i>Bocar Diaw runs a small dairy</i>
  3943.  
  3944. 871
  3945. 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,800
  3946. <i>and is president</i>
  3947. <i>of the Senegalese milk association.</i>
  3948.  
  3949. 872
  3950. 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,319
  3951. - Give it.
  3952. - It's heavy.
  3953.  
  3954. 873
  3955. 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,399
  3956. Milk is in high demand.
  3957.  
  3958. 874
  3959. 01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:38,040
  3960. After receiving the milk, we pay by check.
  3961.  
  3962. 875
  3963. 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,279
  3964. We do not have a limit on what we stock.
  3965.  
  3966. 876
  3967. 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,399
  3968. We often have up to a thousand bags.
  3969.  
  3970. 877
  3971. 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,319
  3972. Here, we have this. It is industrial milk.
  3973.  
  3974. 878
  3975. 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,319
  3976. It is curdled milk
  3977. made from powdered milk.
  3978.  
  3979. 879
  3980. 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,399
  3981. We also have...
  3982.  
  3983. 880
  3984. 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,040
  3985. "Yahourt Jaboot" which is
  3986. from a dairy company,
  3987.  
  3988. 881
  3989. 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,840
  3990. which specialize in producing yogurt
  3991. from powdered milk.
  3992.  
  3993. 882
  3994. 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,680
  3995. They are all imported products.
  3996.  
  3997. 883
  3998. 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,120
  3999. These packs cost 75 or 100 francs.
  4000.  
  4001. 884
  4002. 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,080
  4003. They are affordable to everyone
  4004.  
  4005. 885
  4006. 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:24,200
  4007. and easy to use
  4008. because it is powdered milk.
  4009.  
  4010. 886
  4011. 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,560
  4012. You understand?
  4013. And it is from the European Union.
  4014.  
  4015. 887
  4016. 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,800
  4017. These are all products
  4018. from the European Union.
  4019.  
  4020. 888
  4021. 01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:36,479
  4022. So, the European Union policy
  4023.  
  4024. 889
  4025. 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:40,840
  4026. supports their agriculture financially,
  4027.  
  4028. 890
  4029. 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,720
  4030. which enables a dumping...
  4031.  
  4032. 891
  4033. 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,399
  4034. in our local economy.
  4035.  
  4036. 892
  4037. 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,560
  4038. INTENSE MOMENTS OF HAPPINESS!
  4039.  
  4040. 893
  4041. 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,440
  4042. DRINK YOUR MILK, BREATHE WELL,
  4043. BE STRONG.
  4044.  
  4045. 894
  4046. 01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,200
  4047. EAT HEALTHY
  4048.  
  4049. 895
  4050. 01:10:17,480 --> 01:10:21,280
  4051. <i>The small dairy Bocar runs</i>
  4052. <i>is on the edge of Dakaar.</i>
  4053.  
  4054. 896
  4055. 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,840
  4056. <i>He works exclusively</i>
  4057. <i>with native cow's milk.</i>
  4058.  
  4059. 897
  4060. 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,560
  4061. The process is simple, really.
  4062.  
  4063. 898
  4064. 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:31,360
  4065. We receive cow's milk,
  4066.  
  4067. 899
  4068. 01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:33,400
  4069. we specialize in cow milk.
  4070.  
  4071. 900
  4072. 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,480
  4073. We work with farms
  4074. that collect and bring us milk.
  4075.  
  4076. 901
  4077. 01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,680
  4078. We make the transformation...
  4079.  
  4080. 902
  4081. 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,560
  4082. into yogurt, sour milk,
  4083. and then we sell in our shops.
  4084.  
  4085. 903
  4086. 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,720
  4087. The milk we produce here in Senegal
  4088. from our cows
  4089.  
  4090. 904
  4091. 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,320
  4092. is much more expensive for the producer
  4093.  
  4094. 905
  4095. 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,520
  4096. because production costs are high.
  4097.  
  4098. 906
  4099. 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:59,480
  4100. It's a lot easier today
  4101. to process powdered milk.
  4102.  
  4103. 907
  4104. 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,960
  4105. We'd earn more money with powdered milk.
  4106.  
  4107. 908
  4108. 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:06,560
  4109. But we opted to work with cow's milk
  4110. because it is much more sustainable.
  4111.  
  4112. 909
  4113. 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,800
  4114. Agriculture here
  4115. does not get any support,
  4116.  
  4117. 910
  4118. 01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,320
  4119. there is also no subsidies for livestock.
  4120.  
  4121. 911
  4122. 01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,360
  4123. That is why the production cost are high.
  4124.  
  4125. 912
  4126. 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,080
  4127. There are no grants for producing,
  4128. transforming,
  4129.  
  4130. 913
  4131. 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,800
  4132. and marketing the products.
  4133.  
  4134. 914
  4135. 01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,040
  4136. We are pretty much on our own.
  4137.  
  4138. 915
  4139. 01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:54,960
  4140. Now, in the current
  4141. situation, the European milk industry
  4142.  
  4143. 916
  4144. 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,240
  4145. is completely dependent
  4146. on direct payments.
  4147.  
  4148. 917
  4149. 01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,400
  4150. No dairy farmer can survive
  4151. if they don't receive
  4152.  
  4153. 918
  4154. 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:04,120
  4155. their annual payments from the EU
  4156. on Dec 31.
  4157.  
  4158. 919
  4159. 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:09,560
  4160. It's almost their entire income.
  4161.  
  4162. 920
  4163. 01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:16,360
  4164. The subsidies from EU are important.
  4165.  
  4166. 921
  4167. 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,920
  4168. -We depend on them.
  4169. -We can't live without them.
  4170.  
  4171. 922
  4172. 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,680
  4173. If you look at the bottom line,
  4174. year after year,
  4175.  
  4176. 923
  4177. 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,360
  4178. then it has to be there.
  4179.  
  4180. 924
  4181. 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,400
  4182. Because there's nothing else there.
  4183.  
  4184. 925
  4185. 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,640
  4186. You can't make money by producing milk
  4187.  
  4188. 926
  4189. 01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,960
  4190. without the subsidies from EU.
  4191. It's impossible.
  4192.  
  4193. 927
  4194. 01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,320
  4195. Ask the bank what they would say
  4196. if we didn't get it.
  4197.  
  4198. 928
  4199. 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,760
  4200. Yes. But you could also ask
  4201. what it would take
  4202.  
  4203. 929
  4204. 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,480
  4205. to not rely on the subsidies from EU.
  4206.  
  4207. 930
  4208. 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,560
  4209. We would simply need
  4210. 50 øre more for our milk.
  4211.  
  4212. 931
  4213. 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:46,640
  4214. -And it's--
  4215. -That would replace...
  4216.  
  4217. 932
  4218. 01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:47,960
  4219. ...the subsidies from the EU.
  4220.  
  4221. 933
  4222. 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,400
  4223. The consumer would just
  4224. have to pay 50 øre more.
  4225.  
  4226. 934
  4227. 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,320
  4228. It sounds like nothing,
  4229. but we are talking about billions.
  4230.  
  4231. 935
  4232. 01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:58,760
  4233. The consumer would save too.
  4234. They wouldn't pay as much tax to the EU.
  4235.  
  4236. 936
  4237. 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:00,680
  4238. -Yes.
  4239. -They are paying anyway.
  4240.  
  4241. 937
  4242. 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,800
  4243. -They do.
  4244. -It's going around in a circle.
  4245.  
  4246. 938
  4247. 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:08,040
  4248. It's going around but
  4249. through some clever white collar people.
  4250.  
  4251. 939
  4252. 01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:10,440
  4253. -But do we want it...
  4254. -No.
  4255.  
  4256. 940
  4257. 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,360
  4258. If the EU decided tomorrow
  4259.  
  4260. 941
  4261. 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,360
  4262. to no longer pay those 45 billion euros
  4263. in direct payments
  4264.  
  4265. 942
  4266. 01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:23,640
  4267. this way of agriculture and this export
  4268. strategy couldn't function any longer.
  4269.  
  4270. 943
  4271. 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:30,320
  4272. So the taxpayer fuels this export strategy
  4273. and the strategy of cheapness
  4274.  
  4275. 944
  4276. 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:35,160
  4277. and the taxpayer gets told
  4278. that they get cheap products in return.
  4279.  
  4280. 945
  4281. 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:40,400
  4282. But they aren't for the European market,
  4283. they're ruining small African farmers.
  4284.  
  4285. 946
  4286. 01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,280
  4287. Today the dairy farmers really...
  4288.  
  4289. 947
  4290. 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:53,920
  4291. they can barely make it.
  4292.  
  4293. 948
  4294. 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,240
  4295. Because they don't know
  4296. where to sell their milk.
  4297.  
  4298. 949
  4299. 01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:59,520
  4300. It's a rural area,
  4301.  
  4302. 950
  4303. 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,560
  4304. everyone has cattle.
  4305.  
  4306. 951
  4307. 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,560
  4308. So, the milk market is not here.
  4309.  
  4310. 952
  4311. 01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:13,000
  4312. <i>For Bocaw, dairy farming</i>
  4313. <i>always has a social component</i>
  4314.  
  4315. 953
  4316. 01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,040
  4317. <i>and can not simply be left</i>
  4318. <i>to the free market.</i>
  4319.  
  4320. 954
  4321. 01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:18,120
  4322. <i>Policy is required.</i>
  4323.  
  4324. 955
  4325. 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:21,880
  4326. <i>Assalamualaikum.</i>
  4327.  
  4328. 956
  4329. 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,360
  4330. - How are you?
  4331. - Good, you?
  4332.  
  4333. 957
  4334. 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,400
  4335. -How things going here?
  4336. -Things are fine.
  4337.  
  4338. 958
  4339. 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,880
  4340. -The milk collection?
  4341. -Not too bad!
  4342.  
  4343. 959
  4344. 01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:35,840
  4345. How many liters did you collect?
  4346.  
  4347. 960
  4348. 01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,120
  4349. About 140, 150.
  4350.  
  4351. 961
  4352. 01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,600
  4353. 140, 150?
  4354. How much you buy it for?
  4355.  
  4356. 962
  4357. 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:42,080
  4358. 300.
  4359.  
  4360. 963
  4361. 01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:49,120
  4362. We could use some better equipment,
  4363. at least, the stuff here is--
  4364.  
  4365. 964
  4366. 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,520
  4367. -It doesn't allow us to...
  4368. -Semi-industrial?
  4369.  
  4370. 965
  4371. 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:53,880
  4372. Yes, at least semi-industrial.
  4373.  
  4374. 966
  4375. 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,840
  4376. Of course there is competition.
  4377.  
  4378. 967
  4379. 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:09,400
  4380. Especially the powdered milk.
  4381.  
  4382. 968
  4383. 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:10,760
  4384. It is everywhere.
  4385.  
  4386. 969
  4387. 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:15,720
  4388. They should increase
  4389. the taxes on imported goods
  4390.  
  4391. 970
  4392. 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,560
  4393. to help finance the local producers.
  4394.  
  4395. 971
  4396. 01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:18,920
  4397. That's right.
  4398.  
  4399. 972
  4400. 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:19,840
  4401. True.
  4402.  
  4403. 973
  4404. 01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,080
  4405. If you are succeed at what you are doing
  4406.  
  4407. 974
  4408. 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:26,880
  4409. that would mean you are
  4410. combating poor nutrition
  4411.  
  4412. 975
  4413. 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,000
  4414. because kids will have quality milk.
  4415.  
  4416. 976
  4417. 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,360
  4418. You fought poverty because farmers
  4419.  
  4420. 977
  4421. 01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,320
  4422. will have good job with an income.
  4423.  
  4424. 978
  4425. 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,560
  4426. This is a big fight.
  4427.  
  4428. 979
  4429. 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,120
  4430. -We are dealing with a rural exodus here.
  4431. -That is true.
  4432.  
  4433. 980
  4434. 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,640
  4435. -How many people are employed here?
  4436. -Seven.
  4437.  
  4438. 981
  4439. 01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,360
  4440. -Seven already!
  4441. -Only with 150 liters.
  4442.  
  4443. 982
  4444. 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,440
  4445. This means that if you got the support
  4446.  
  4447. 983
  4448. 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,920
  4449. to produce 1,000 liters,
  4450. you will hire 50 people.
  4451.  
  4452. 984
  4453. 01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,280
  4454. That's for sure.
  4455.  
  4456. 985
  4457. 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,840
  4458. But regarding the rural exodus.
  4459.  
  4460. 986
  4461. 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:06,680
  4462. The worst thing is that kids of farmers
  4463. are on the boats to go overseas.
  4464.  
  4465. 987
  4466. 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,680
  4467. They’re dying in Libya
  4468. and on the high seas.
  4469.  
  4470. 988
  4471. 01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:14,360
  4472. This is very important.
  4473.  
  4474. 989
  4475. 01:16:14,440 --> 01:16:17,480
  4476. The children who die there
  4477. are the sons of cattle-breeders.
  4478.  
  4479. 990
  4480. 01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,200
  4481. <i> In 2008,</i>
  4482. <i>the World Bank and the UNO</i>
  4483.  
  4484. 991
  4485. 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:43,320
  4486. <i>had information</i>
  4487. <i>on global agriculture collated.</i>
  4488.  
  4489. 992
  4490. 01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:48,800
  4491. <i>The scientists found that</i>
  4492. <i>the decisive factor of the war on hunger</i>
  4493.  
  4494. 993
  4495. 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:50,920
  4496. <i>is not increased productivity</i>
  4497.  
  4498. 994
  4499. 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:55,160
  4500. <i>but the availability of food</i>
  4501. <i>and the means of its local production.</i>
  4502.  
  4503. 995
  4504. 01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,680
  4505. <i>The best guarantees for</i>
  4506. <i>comprehensive global food security</i>
  4507.  
  4508. 996
  4509. 01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,920
  4510. <i>are small farming structures.</i>
  4511.  
  4512. 997
  4513. 01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,760
  4514. <i>A large part of the agricultural industry</i>
  4515.  
  4516. 998
  4517. 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,600
  4518. <i>rejects these findings.</i>
  4519.  
  4520. 999
  4521. 01:19:28,440 --> 01:19:31,400
  4522. <i>We've led agriculture in a direction</i>
  4523.  
  4524. 1000
  4525. 01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,760
  4526. <i>that is clearly a dead end.</i>
  4527.  
  4528. 1001
  4529. 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:38,600
  4530. <i>It happened because we made agriculture</i>
  4531. <i>a topic exclusively for economists.</i>
  4532.  
  4533. 1002
  4534. 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:44,800
  4535. <i>And on the other hand,</i>
  4536. <i>for us it is a job and a way of life.</i>
  4537.  
  4538. 1003
  4539. 01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,640
  4540. <i>I believe it's time to make</i>
  4541. <i>agriculture a topic</i>
  4542.  
  4543. 1004
  4544. 01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,960
  4545. <i>for ecologists, philosophers,</i>
  4546. <i>and economists.</i>
  4547.  
  4548. 1005
  4549. 01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:57,440
  4550. <i>But it can't just be a matter of numbers.</i>
  4551.  
  4552. 1006
  4553. 01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:06,600
  4554. <i>We need to create</i>
  4555. <i>much smaller production units,</i>
  4556.  
  4557. 1007
  4558. 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,480
  4559. <i>create more diversified production units,</i>
  4560.  
  4561. 1008
  4562. 01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,880
  4563. <i>create production units</i>
  4564. <i>with less technology.</i>
  4565.  
  4566. 1009
  4567. 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,920
  4568. <i>This may sound completely alien</i>
  4569.  
  4570. 1010
  4571. 01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:22,640
  4572. <i>but as of right now, we farmers are</i>
  4573. <i>in the process of rationalizing ourselves.</i>
  4574.  
  4575. 1011
  4576. 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:28,760
  4577. <i>On the other hand, agriculture has</i>
  4578. <i>an emotional aspect to it.</i>
  4579.  
  4580. 1012
  4581. 01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,200
  4582. My farming is a soulful endeavor.
  4583.  
  4584. 1013
  4585. 01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,760
  4586. The animals are very important to me.
  4587.  
  4588. 1014
  4589. 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:39,240
  4590. And I can only achieve this ideal
  4591.  
  4592. 1015
  4593. 01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,320
  4594. by remaining small.
  4595.  
  4596. 1016
  4597. 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,680
  4598. <i>I fancy the idea that I will manage</i>
  4599.  
  4600. 1017
  4601. 01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,200
  4602. <i>to make my cheese recognizable</i>
  4603. <i>by its terroir</i>
  4604.  
  4605. 1018
  4606. 01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,840
  4607. <i>simply by cultivating my soil</i>
  4608. <i>the way I do.</i>
  4609.  
  4610. 1019
  4611. 01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:10,760
  4612. <i>It's my vision that someday</i>
  4613.  
  4614. 1020
  4615. 01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,760
  4616. <i>you will be able to recognize a region</i>
  4617. <i>from a cheese.</i>
  4618.  
  4619. 1021
  4620. 01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:17,720
  4621. That I'll be able to tell from the smell
  4622. and taste of a cheese
  4623.  
  4624. 1022
  4625. 01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:19,760
  4626. that it's from this area.
  4627.  
  4628. 1023
  4629. 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:24,360
  4630. And for that purpose, importing feed
  4631. from all over the world
  4632.  
  4633. 1024
  4634. 01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:28,560
  4635. to produce lots of milk is pointless.
  4636.  
  4637. 1025
  4638. 01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:34,080
  4639. Instead, it will be crucial
  4640. that the cow eats what it can find here.
  4641.  
  4642. 1026
  4643. 01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,480
  4644. <i>But is Alexander's model</i>
  4645.  
  4646. 1027
  4647. 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,760
  4648. <i>of strictly organic dairy farming</i>
  4649.  
  4650. 1028
  4651. 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:43,920
  4652. <i>only feasible on a small scale?</i>
  4653.  
  4654. 1029
  4655. 01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,480
  4656. <i>Together with two other farmers,</i>
  4657.  
  4658. 1030
  4659. 01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:52,600
  4660. <i>Kjartan Poulsen runs</i>
  4661. <i>a large organic dairy farm in Denmark.</i>
  4662.  
  4663. 1031
  4664. 01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,080
  4665. <i>When you enter the cow house</i>
  4666.  
  4667. 1032
  4668. 01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,800
  4669. <i>it doesn't look very different</i>
  4670. <i>to a conventional farm.</i>
  4671.  
  4672. 1033
  4673. 01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,840
  4674. <i>But the differences are fundamental.</i>
  4675.  
  4676. 1034
  4677. 01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:14,960
  4678. We are very close to 100% self-sufficient
  4679.  
  4680. 1035
  4681. 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,520
  4682. in what we feed the animals and...
  4683.  
  4684. 1036
  4685. 01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:23,680
  4686. almost all our cattle
  4687. is outside all summer
  4688.  
  4689. 1037
  4690. 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:29,480
  4691. 1,600 heads, they are all on grass
  4692. in the summertime.
  4693.  
  4694. 1038
  4695. 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:34,720
  4696. We do not want to be stressed.
  4697.  
  4698. 1039
  4699. 01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,800
  4700. Neither do we want to make stress
  4701. to the animals.
  4702.  
  4703. 1040
  4704. 01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,960
  4705. We just feed them
  4706. what we can grow every year
  4707.  
  4708. 1041
  4709. 01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,320
  4710. and then take the milk that they produce.
  4711.  
  4712. 1042
  4713. 01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:51,280
  4714. And in this way everyone is, I believe,
  4715. more happy.
  4716.  
  4717. 1043
  4718. 01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,320
  4719. <i> If they are kept on pastures</i>
  4720. <i>and eat only grass,</i>
  4721.  
  4722. 1044
  4723. 01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,840
  4724. <i>cows are not climate criminals.</i>
  4725.  
  4726. 1045
  4727. 01:23:04,440 --> 01:23:07,080
  4728. <i>On an environmental balance sheet then</i>
  4729.  
  4730. 1046
  4731. 01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:11,120
  4732. <i>organic milk is definitely superior</i>
  4733. <i>to ordinary milk.</i>
  4734.  
  4735. 1047
  4736. 01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,800
  4737. <i>Even if it is produced in the same</i>
  4738. <i>industrial fashion</i>
  4739.  
  4740. 1048
  4741. 01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:16,160
  4742. <i>as at Kjartan Poulsen's.</i>
  4743.  
  4744. 1049
  4745. 01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:20,960
  4746. <i>So the pertinent question becomes,</i>
  4747. <i>"Why don't more farmers go organic?"</i>
  4748.  
  4749. 1050
  4750. 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,560
  4751. <i>Especially since prices</i>
  4752. <i>organic farmers receive</i>
  4753.  
  4754. 1051
  4755. 01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:26,160
  4756. <i>are consistently good.</i>
  4757.  
  4758. 1052
  4759. 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,680
  4760. <i>"Too expensive and too labor intensive,"</i>
  4761.  
  4762. 1053
  4763. 01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:31,640
  4764. <i>is what farmers tell me.</i>
  4765.  
  4766. 1054
  4767. 01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:36,000
  4768. <i>Which is why most of them prefer to stick</i>
  4769. <i>with the conventional model and hope,</i>
  4770.  
  4771. 1055
  4772. 01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:39,400
  4773. <i>year in, year out,</i>
  4774. <i>for a rise in prices.</i>
  4775.  
  4776. 1056
  4777. 01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:55,040
  4778. We are about 100% in debt today,
  4779. so we should try to get that down a bit.
  4780.  
  4781. 1057
  4782. 01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,760
  4783. Every month we deliver...
  4784.  
  4785. 1058
  4786. 01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,440
  4787. an efficiency plan to the bank.
  4788.  
  4789. 1059
  4790. 01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:08,400
  4791. Number of cows that died, milk produced
  4792. per cow, and all those things.
  4793.  
  4794. 1060
  4795. 01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:12,160
  4796. We send that to them as information.
  4797.  
  4798. 1061
  4799. 01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,920
  4800. But... we're not tied
  4801. at the hands and feet.
  4802.  
  4803. 1062
  4804. 01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,920
  4805. I can go buy whenever I want.
  4806.  
  4807. 1063
  4808. 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,240
  4809. But they are following us closely.
  4810.  
  4811. 1064
  4812. 01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:33,520
  4813. We have to be...
  4814.  
  4815. 1065
  4816. 01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:37,040
  4817. better farmers than our neighbors.
  4818.  
  4819. 1066
  4820. 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:37,960
  4821. Yes.
  4822.  
  4823. 1067
  4824. 01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:41,800
  4825. -We are... at war with everyone.
  4826. -That's--
  4827.  
  4828. 1068
  4829. 01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,240
  4830. -You need to know that...
  4831. -Yes.
  4832.  
  4833. 1069
  4834. 01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:45,760
  4835. ...for when you take over.
  4836.  
  4837. 1070
  4838. 01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:48,400
  4839. There's no--
  4840.  
  4841. 1071
  4842. 01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:54,120
  4843. -There's no goodwill. It's not--
  4844. -No. Nobody will cry for you.
  4845.  
  4846. 1072
  4847. 01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,800
  4848. You have to...
  4849.  
  4850. 1073
  4851. 01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,200
  4852. be an asshole once in a while.
  4853.  
  4854. 1074
  4855. 01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:07,760
  4856. What's been happening in the past years
  4857.  
  4858. 1075
  4859. 01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,440
  4860. is a cannibalization of the sector
  4861.  
  4862. 1076
  4863. 01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:13,280
  4864. They eat each other up.
  4865. Without any consideration.
  4866.  
  4867. 1077
  4868. 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,880
  4869. Whenever land is for lease...
  4870.  
  4871. 1078
  4872. 01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:21,080
  4873. even at the funeral of a farmer,
  4874. the widow is approached
  4875.  
  4876. 1079
  4877. 01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:25,400
  4878. about whether she wants to lease
  4879. her husband's land.
  4880.  
  4881. 1080
  4882. 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,880
  4883. That's not a one time thing,
  4884. every village tells those stories.
  4885.  
  4886. 1081
  4887. 01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:32,280
  4888. People are becoming inconsiderate.
  4889.  
  4890. 1082
  4891. 01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,200
  4892. Obviously not always
  4893. because they want more
  4894.  
  4895. 1083
  4896. 01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,360
  4897. but because they're under such pressure.
  4898.  
  4899. 1084
  4900. 01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:41,160
  4901. It's such a bubble.
  4902. They have their backs against the wall.
  4903.  
  4904. 1085
  4905. 01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,800
  4906. They have been driven so far out
  4907. and can't even go back.
  4908.  
  4909. 1086
  4910. 01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:49,640
  4911. It's locked.
  4912.  
  4913. 1087
  4914. 01:25:53,440 --> 01:25:56,400
  4915. We were discussing milk policy
  4916.  
  4917. 1088
  4918. 01:25:56,480 --> 01:26:01,480
  4919. then Bové got up and said,
  4920. "I ask you to rise and commemorate
  4921.  
  4922. 1089
  4923. 01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:06,040
  4924. the 600 French farmers
  4925. who committed suicide last year."
  4926.  
  4927. 1090
  4928. 01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,040
  4929. First, a murmur went through the rows
  4930.  
  4931. 1091
  4932. 01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,960
  4933. but then everyone,
  4934. including the Commissioner, stood up.
  4935.  
  4936. 1092
  4937. 01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:18,760
  4938. The number is apparently true.
  4939.  
  4940. 1093
  4941. 01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,000
  4942. As I said...
  4943.  
  4944. 1094
  4945. 01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:26,080
  4946. farmers now have
  4947. a disproportionately high suicide rate.
  4948.  
  4949. 1095
  4950. 01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,520
  4951. I'm a strong believer that long term,
  4952.  
  4953. 1096
  4954. 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:18,280
  4955. and I know that can be difficult if
  4956. you're a farmer to accept that today,
  4957.  
  4958. 1097
  4959. 01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:22,720
  4960. but long term there is a nice future
  4961. for dairy products.
  4962.  
  4963. 1098
  4964. 01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,080
  4965. It's a very healthy product,
  4966. it's nutritious.
  4967.  
  4968. 1099
  4969. 01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,920
  4970. It's the right nutrition
  4971. for lots of people in the world
  4972.  
  4973. 1100
  4974. 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:31,840
  4975. and there are many consumers out there
  4976.  
  4977. 1101
  4978. 01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:35,880
  4979. who are just now learning
  4980. to eat and drink a dairy products
  4981.  
  4982. 1102
  4983. 01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:40,520
  4984. the way we're used to doing it
  4985. in Europe or the Old World, so to speak.
  4986.  
  4987. 1103
  4988. 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:46,080
  4989. So there is, on the demand side,
  4990. a great opportunity actually.
  4991.  
  4992. 1104
  4993. 01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:50,960
  4994. If we understand as companies
  4995. to grasp that opportunity
  4996.  
  4997. 1105
  4998. 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:55,000
  4999. and that's an ongoing process
  5000. and we will never be finished doing that.
  5001.  
  5002. 1106
  5003. 01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:15,880
  5004. The cattle's liquid manure
  5005.  
  5006. 1107
  5007. 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,720
  5008. flows through the system
  5009. and produces energy.
  5010.  
  5011. 1108
  5012. 01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,800
  5013. Or rather gas and thus electricity.
  5014.  
  5015. 1109
  5016. 01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:29,480
  5017. With pure liquid manure we now make
  5018. more money than with our milk.
  5019.  
  5020. 1110
  5021. 01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,600
  5022. -With poop.
  5023. -With poop, so to speak.
  5024.  
  5025. 1111
  5026. 01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,440
  5027. That's a joke if you think about it.
  5028.  
  5029. 1112
  5030. 01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,200
  5031. I just got a message...
  5032.  
  5033. 1113
  5034. 01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,920
  5035. a text here on on my phone.
  5036.  
  5037. 1114
  5038. 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:56,360
  5039. The price of milk will rise 15.1 øre
  5040. on October 1st.
  5041.  
  5042. 1115
  5043. 01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:58,240
  5044. Yes.
  5045.  
  5046. 1116
  5047. 01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:00,960
  5048. We are ready.
  5049.  
  5050. 1117
  5051. 01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,560
  5052. That's straight to the bottom line.
  5053.  
  5054. 1118
  5055. 01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:06,640
  5056. That's damn good.
  5057.  
  5058. 1119
  5059. 01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:08,800
  5060. Almost makes me cry.
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