Eric: I'll edit the OP to say that it's mostly resolved
Eric: I'd still like the keyfiles first though
Lee Benson: mostly*
Lee Benson: If i give you the key files now
Eric: and I would like permission to release them
Eric: to the public
Lee Benson: Your able to host before the other hosters
Lee Benson: then they would complain
Lee Benson: just like you did
Eric:
Eric: and I would like permission to release them
Eric: to the public
Lee Benson: In what way are you going to give them to the public
Lee Benson: I've given one person the permission to release these files to the public
Lee Benson: and that is ayan
Eric: I intend to edit the OP and post links to the key files
Eric: and I will say that the issue is fully resolved then, because it will be.
Eric: besides you and icebreakr, but I would be just as guilty as you are then if your maps are public.
Lee Benson: icebreakr has complained about something with again is completely incorrect
Lee Benson: He stated that we have taken his map and re-branded it etc...
Lee Benson: using it to make money
Lee Benson: Again couldn't be further from the truth
Lee Benson: If you take alook at lingor
Lee Benson: which is another map that he has created
Lee Benson: you will see that the entire map has been re-compiled and released
Lee Benson: re-signed
Lee Benson: without his permission
Lee Benson: he didn't complain about that
Eric: because the key was released as well.
Lee Benson: indeed
Lee Benson: but i cant just release keys like that
Lee Benson: i need a valid, stable source to release the keys from
Eric: um... why not?
Lee Benson: one that i know will be there 24/7
Lee Benson: This is the reason for the website
Eric: your website isn't reliable?
Eric: these are starting to sound like excuses now lol
Lee Benson: It's not yet developed fully
Lee Benson: If you want to take it like that
Lee Benson: you can do
Lee Benson: however i find that your more interested in cause more issues
Lee Benson: that correct them
Lee Benson: then*
Lee Benson: So before i continue
Eric: I mean you're trying to tell me you have to develop a huge website to release some 4KB keyfiles
Lee Benson: Eric i don't just want to release the keys
Eric: I know you don't, and that's the problem.
Lee Benson: i want to make sure everyone has the correct files and mod with the keys
Lee Benson: and the server files included
Eric: which is why the issue isn't resolved.
Lee Benson: There are changes within the server files to correctly support the map
Lee Benson: To you they are not resolved
Lee Benson: and to other server providers they are not resolved
Lee Benson: I am trying my hardest to resolve all of these issues
Lee Benson: however i can-not keep going around in circles
Lee Benson: i am sorry if i can not just resolve these issues with a click of my fingers
Lee Benson: but i am trying to
Eric: you are choosing not to... and I understand why
Lee Benson: All i can say is that i will speak with ayan and try to push to get these files released A.S.A.P
Eric: but you are still choosing not to.
Lee Benson: okay, why do you think i am not releasing the files?
Eric: because you want full control over the maps and you don't want anyone else to be able to host them unless you've told ayan it is ok
Lee Benson: well
Lee Benson: I am sorry you feel that way
Lee Benson: As i keep trying to explain
Eric: yes you want to be able to police and quality control the maps
Lee Benson: I've released the server files to Ayan
Lee Benson: he is releasing them now
Eric: is what you've explained to me
Lee Benson: with the correct server side modifications to ensure the map functions correctly
Eric: exactly
Lee Benson: I am not going to release a mod which is broken
Lee Benson: it will create more work
Lee Benson: I've told ayan he can release it when ever he wants
Lee Benson: and give it out to the public when ever he wants
Eric: but nobody else can?
Lee Benson: there is no control over this
Lee Benson: I don't control ayan
Lee Benson: i don't control anything
Lee Benson: If i was to give you the keys
Lee Benson: you would run the mod with the modified server files?
Eric: personally, I would wait for ayan to support them with bliss unless he took more than a couple weeks then I would write my own.
Lee Benson: i mean i have released the server files to him
Lee Benson: write your own then
Lee Benson: ayan is going to get this done as soon as he can
Eric: I need the key files or I have to turn off signature verification
Lee Benson: but i would prefair not to push him
Lee Benson: or anyone
Lee Benson: i am doing everything i can do
Lee Benson: I want everyone to but supportive from one aspect here
Lee Benson: Everyone to run the correct files so the end user has the best gameplay
Lee Benson: without issues
Lee Benson: that's all
Lee Benson: You don't just need the keys
Lee Benson: you also need the server files
Eric: I mean you don't have to give me a wave of excuses, you already said "I don't want to release the key files" so that's the answer - I'm not going to tell everyone the issue is resolved though.
Lee Benson: If i release the server files to you
Lee Benson: i have to release it to 1000s of other people
Eric: yes, you do.
Lee Benson: indeed
Lee Benson: This is why i gave ayan the server files
Lee Benson: and the keys
Lee Benson: to release to the public
Lee Benson: because everyone already goes there and uses his bliss
Eric: there are lots of other private hives than bliss
Lee Benson: I like ayan
Lee Benson: and i have given him permission
Lee Benson: to release it
Eric: you're acting as an arbiter and trying to control the distribution of your map, which is the underlying concern
Lee Benson: I am not trying to control anything
Eric: I personally don't care what your motivations are, and you're free to do whatever you want - but the issue isn't resolved until the keyfiles are public.
Lee Benson: if you don't want to use the map
Lee Benson: then don't use it
Eric: so I'm not going to tell people it is.
Lee Benson: Eric
Lee Benson: Can i ask you, why don't you understand what i am saying?
Lee Benson: It's a very simple concept
Lee Benson: I've given the files to Bliss and Ayan
Eric: I really do lol, you want to make sure that anyone who hosts your map is able to play it properly how you intended it to be played
Lee Benson: for them to release it
Lee Benson: indeed
Eric: and if ayan releases them all, then it's fine
Eric: but he already said he's not supporting panthera
Lee Benson: Yes but i have no control over when he does release it
Lee Benson: He is going to support panthera
Lee Benson: and he is going to support all the other maps
Eric: that's not what he told me. not your version anyway
Eric: said he's supporting mrsherenai's version, unless you two have come to an agreement about that as well
Lee Benson: I am currently speaking with mysherenai right now
Lee Benson: that's already sorted and resolved
Lee Benson: please read the forums
Eric: I did
Eric: I see that he supports you
Lee Benson: indeed
Eric: people still can't play his version of panthera with your version of the map
Eric: so it's not resolved.
Eric: this really is a circular argument, if you're not willing to release the keys then that's fine
Eric: publicly
Eric: but I'm not going to tell everyone that everything is fixed just yet.  When ayan releases them I will.