[18:14:44] DJLuna⌐■_■: talk
[18:14:45] DJLuna⌐■_■: now
[18:19:22] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Huh?
[18:19:33] DJLuna⌐■_■: maura
[18:19:42] DJLuna⌐■_■: i pushing me
[18:19:44] DJLuna⌐■_■: is
[18:19:47] DJLuna⌐■_■: send
[18:19:49] DJLuna⌐■_■: help
[18:19:54] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: ???
[18:20:10] DJLuna⌐■_■: i want to kick him out but i need a vote
[18:20:15] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: What did he do?
[18:20:30] DJLuna⌐■_■: 1 hes done nothing but ruin out already bad roomintro
[18:20:53] DJLuna⌐■_■: he insualts everyone even worse than you do
[18:21:07] DJLuna⌐■_■: and hes just been a complete jackass
[18:21:17] DJLuna⌐■_■: and not to mention useless
[18:22:25] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: well
[18:22:37] DJLuna⌐■_■: http://pastebin.com/WcLz7qUB
[18:22:39] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: I admit he doesn't really bring anything to the table...
[18:24:25] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: The testing he does can be a detriment, depending on how powerful you want our newcomers to be when they get GL.
[18:24:36] DJLuna⌐■_■: i want them to be decent
[18:24:42] DJLuna⌐■_■: at least
[18:25:08] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Well, decent by what definition?
[18:25:21] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Decent by Maura definition?
[18:25:38] DJLuna⌐■_■: by your definition
[18:29:53] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: So
[18:30:06] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: First things first, don't tell somebody to calm down as the introduction to a conversation.
[18:30:28] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Unless their 100% flipping their shit in pms, telling them to calm down will actually rile them up further.
[18:30:32] DJLuna⌐■_■: it wasent the intro
[18:30:47] DJLuna⌐■_■: we had a fight in dj first
[18:31:14] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Either way, when you told him to calm down a second time, he was not flipping his shit in pms.
[18:31:21] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Unless you were fighting in dj and pms simultaneously?
[18:31:26] DJLuna⌐■_■: listen to me
[18:31:35] DJLuna⌐■_■: he was going to freak the fuck out
[18:31:40] DJLuna⌐■_■: i knew he was
[18:31:56] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Don't tell him to calm down then, tell him to please not flip out about it.
[18:31:58] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Word it better.
[18:32:09] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Helps them stay calmer during the conversation.
[18:33:19] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: And it's true that he made a decent looking roomintro, and does testing while I'm away.
[18:33:42] DJLuna⌐■_■: it doesnt matter
[18:33:51] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: He does a lot of little things for this league in between, since he cares, but I understand his frustration at constantly being the butt of jokes.
[18:34:10] DJLuna⌐■_■: he is mean
[18:34:12] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: But yeah, on top of his personality issues, it kinda spirals
[18:34:33] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Also who is seductive weavile?
[18:35:06] DJLuna⌐■_■: jester
[18:35:11] DJLuna⌐■_■: he left with maura
[18:35:14] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Ew an alt with %?
[18:35:21] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Alts shouldn't have anything beyond +
[18:35:26] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: That's why my main alt is +
[18:35:59] DJLuna⌐■_■: XD
[18:36:02] DJLuna⌐■_■: ikr
[18:37:12] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Well...
[18:37:27] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: As much as I care for Toup and would rather have talked to him about it myself.
[18:37:30] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: What's done is done, I suppose.
[18:37:45] DJLuna⌐■_■: he wont be nice
[18:37:52] DJLuna⌐■_■: what can i really do?
[18:38:01] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Wait
[18:38:04] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: is sergio dead
[18:38:10] DJLuna⌐■_■: probly
[18:38:18] DJLuna⌐■_■: all on you fam :I
[18:38:21] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: The professors section
[18:38:23] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: is literally going to be me
[18:38:26] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: :Y
[18:49:18] DJ Pyrope: And btw, he did have a point
[18:49:24] DJ Pyrope: about getting attached being a good thing.
[18:49:32] DJLuna⌐■_■: maybe
[18:49:54] DJ Pyrope: As painful as the end result can be, attachment completely betters your investment, and definitely helps in the present.
[18:50:01] DJ Pyrope: Risk/reward type deal.
[18:50:13] DJ Pyrope: Creates loyalty, etc.
[18:51:06] • DJLuna⌐■_■ sigh
[18:51:18] DJLuna⌐■_■: i am attached
[18:51:34] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Resisting it is what prevents the effects from coming fully through :P
[18:51:49] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Let urself get attached, let urself love this league <3
[18:52:52] DJLuna⌐■_■: love is evol doe
[18:53:04] DJLuna⌐■_■: besides i dont wanna be what i was in shade
[18:53:54] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: If you can keep a handle on your sanity, and just keep having fun with dj, instead of having fun through dj, you'll be fine.
[18:54:12] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Consult me before doing anything hastily. I can be your mental assistant ;3
[18:54:20] DJLuna⌐■_■: gdi
[18:54:26] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: lmao
[18:54:26] DJLuna⌐■_■: GDI
[18:54:32] DJLuna⌐■_■: GOD MOTHER FUCKING DAMMIT
[18:54:35] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: ?
[18:54:43] DJLuna⌐■_■: i stubbed my toe ;~;
[18:54:48] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: o
[18:54:59] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: That's not that painful compared to lots of potential easy injuries.
[18:55:14] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: I slammed a door on my right index finger.
[18:55:17] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Couldn't type well for like a week, and it was purple all over for the same duration.
[18:55:19] DJLuna⌐■_■: oof
[18:55:21] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: actually no it's still purple
[18:55:29] DJLuna⌐■_■: dam
[18:55:31] DJLuna⌐■_■: :I
[18:55:35] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: only in a few spots tho
[18:55:38] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: like right under the nail
[18:55:51] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: anyways
[18:55:53] • DJLuna⌐■_■ sigh
[18:55:55] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: back to the real conversation
[18:56:01] DJLuna⌐■_■: i want to make testing harder
[18:56:04] DJLuna⌐■_■: :I
[18:56:10] DJLuna⌐■_■: lotus rules
[18:56:14] DJLuna⌐■_■: legit lotus rules
[18:56:25] DJLuna⌐■_■: anything else isnt enough of a filter
[18:56:25] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Testing can be hard in there because they have competition, they're famous, and slots are all full.
[18:56:34] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: We don't even have half our gls yet.
[18:56:37] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Barely have half an E4.
[18:56:46] DJLuna⌐■_■: we need to filter
[18:56:51] DJLuna⌐■_■: :I
[18:57:00] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: I say we shouldn't be too harsh for now
[18:57:05] DJLuna⌐■_■: reapz called my league bad and im not happy about it
[18:57:08] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: but rather make sure they aren't cancer or going to leave
[18:57:08] DJLuna⌐■_■: :I
[18:57:28] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Stage 1 of a league is making it fun so people join, and start to get as good as the best players in there
[18:57:32] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: AKA we want more like sage and charmed
[18:57:48] DJLuna⌐■_■: sage isnt here
[18:57:52] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: stage 2 is LvLs and getting well known so people recognize you as good enough
[18:58:00] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: stage 3 is being impossible to get into cuz ur 2gud
[18:58:16] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: The Rain Forest is like a permanent stage 1, and Lotus is like stage 3
[18:58:16] DJLuna⌐■_■: and how long will this take?
[18:58:28] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: idk
[18:58:40] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Depends on in-flow of players.
[18:58:52] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: The faster we can get decent players, and the better we are at helping them get good
[18:58:54] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: the faster we can progress.
[18:59:00] DJLuna⌐■_■: hmm
[18:59:24] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: I mean, I could be wrong, but that's my observation
[18:59:28] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: comparing frost to infinite to eos
[18:59:50] DJLuna⌐■_■: frost was a better time for mono
[18:59:53] DJLuna⌐■_■: players were good back then
[19:00:02] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: But they were also rarer.
[19:00:11] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Everybody had a league, so multileaguing was allowed in like 60% of the leagues.
[19:00:26] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: It was more a community for fun than competitiveness, even though they were all good af.
[19:00:53] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Nowadays, leagues are all singular, and there's a mix of competitive leagues and community leagues.
[19:01:11] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: But you can't really get competitive cuz of how good the top ones are, unless you start off community and work hard to get gud.
[19:01:26] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: AKA your training :P
[19:01:32] DJLuna⌐■_■: this is why i debated moving servers
[19:01:42] DJLuna⌐■_■: independent growth
[19:01:56] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: That's why I said it would probably be better for the league.
[19:02:01] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: We wouldn't get strong quite as fast, most likely.
[19:02:01] DJLuna⌐■_■: we could train away from all the big dogs then come back when we are ready
[19:02:18] DJLuna⌐■_■: but less likely to lose people
[19:02:20] DJLuna⌐■_■: imo
[19:02:21] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Trying to be competitive in a big community like this merits hard work, over there it'll be slower but more consistent.
[19:02:33] DJLuna⌐■_■: its about whats more important
[19:02:44] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: We'll get good much faster with effort here, but nobody wants to put in effort unless it's rewarding, AKA being strongest on a server.
[19:02:45] DJLuna⌐■_■: you want it done fast or right?
[19:03:08] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: It gets done slower on other servers.
[19:03:15] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: But it won't get done here, most likely.
[19:03:24] DJLuna⌐■_■: :I
[19:03:34] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Also
[19:03:46] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Recruiting is easier on other servers, since whoever is new here likely came from somewhere else.
[19:03:54] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Monotype leagues are more famous than they used to be.
[19:04:04] DJLuna⌐■_■: indeed
[19:04:05] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: The concept, I mean.
[19:04:08] DJLuna⌐■_■: ye
[19:04:33] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: It could definitely be a good thing for the league, but considering how few people we have? And how many of them aren't here often?
[19:04:41] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: You may drop people by trying to move servers.
[19:04:50] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: The same way people dropped in the thousands of transformations to DJ.
[19:05:06] DJLuna⌐■_■: we have so few anyway
[19:05:13] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: You should stop panicking on things "not working", and have patience and work hard to keep what we have.
[19:05:36] DJLuna⌐■_■: if we stay
[19:05:45] DJLuna⌐■_■: we live in the shadow of bigger leagues
[19:05:59] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Then we'll get bigger for the very purpose of beating them.
[19:06:13] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Strive to be stronger than the strongest.
[19:06:39] DJLuna⌐■_■: but if we were away from them
[19:06:47] DJLuna⌐■_■: we could grow without them interfering
[19:06:56] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: How are they interfering?
[19:07:05] DJLuna⌐■_■: poaching
[19:07:10] DJLuna⌐■_■: talking mad shit
[19:07:17] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: when
[19:07:18] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: does this happen?
[19:07:32] DJLuna⌐■_■: we have been poached b4
[19:07:43] DJLuna⌐■_■: and reapz just told me my league is both dying and bad
[19:07:53] DJLuna⌐■_■: so how am i supposed to take that?
[19:07:54] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Poached by who?
[19:07:59] DJLuna⌐■_■: union
[19:08:01] DJLuna⌐■_■: once
[19:08:05] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: what's union
[19:08:05] DJLuna⌐■_■: :I
[19:08:09] DJLuna⌐■_■: still counts
[19:08:31] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: lmao
[19:08:39] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: The thing is.
[19:08:44] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: If you're dedicated to this league
[19:08:51] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: We can't be poached because they'll like this league.
[19:09:00] DJLuna⌐■_■: ffs
[19:09:06] DJLuna⌐■_■: tell its not cause of rain
[19:09:11] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: ?
[19:09:18] DJLuna⌐■_■: you dont wanna leave
[19:09:21] DJLuna⌐■_■: cause of rain
[19:09:31] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: I'm legitimately only thinking of DJ right now.
[19:09:53] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: You keep on moving it around and changing it
[19:10:06] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: The more you do that, the harder it is to keep people interested.
[19:10:13] DJLuna⌐■_■: i havent done anything according to maura
[19:10:22] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: *sigh*
[19:10:39] • DJLuna⌐■_■ sigh
[19:10:42] DJLuna⌐■_■: sorry
[19:10:48] DJLuna⌐■_■: im being annoying
[19:10:51] DJLuna⌐■_■: :I
[19:10:52] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Not really.
[19:11:07] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: But your points are weak, at best.
[19:11:19] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: And you know I try to think as logically as possible...
[19:11:19] DJLuna⌐■_■: im tired of other leagues
[19:11:40] DJLuna⌐■_■: all they ever do is annoy me
[19:11:45] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Moving servers temporarily to come back
[19:11:57] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: is a HUGE risk
[19:12:02] DJLuna⌐■_■: ik
[19:12:08] • DJLuna⌐■_■ sigh
[19:12:15] DJLuna⌐■_■: staying is the harder road tho
[19:12:21] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Yes.
[19:12:22] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: It is.
[19:12:29] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: But leaving is riskier, and slower.
[19:12:38] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: It's up to you for the final decision.
[19:13:02] DJLuna⌐■_■: do we want it hard or risky?
[19:13:14] DJLuna⌐■_■: isnt that the question?
[19:13:26] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: The path to greatness involves either great risks or hard work. This is no exception :P
[19:13:49] DJLuna⌐■_■: if we leave
[19:13:56] DJLuna⌐■_■: it will cause problems
[19:14:12] DJLuna⌐■_■: but we can grow isolated more or less
[19:14:12] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Mhm.
[19:14:20] DJLuna⌐■_■: live a healthy life style
[19:14:21] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: But my question is
[19:14:25] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: what is your plan of growth
[19:14:29] DJLuna⌐■_■: recruit
[19:14:31] DJLuna⌐■_■: train
[19:14:36] DJLuna⌐■_■: standard shit
[19:14:40] DJLuna⌐■_■: :I
[19:14:40] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Recruiting can be done from here.
[19:14:44] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Training is better here.
[19:14:51] DJLuna⌐■_■: but here we have to deal with everyone else
[19:15:00] DJLuna⌐■_■: and possible interference
[19:15:08] DJLuna⌐■_■: and living under big dogs
[19:15:37] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: I feel like you're really over exaggerating the weight of having them there.
[19:15:52] DJLuna⌐■_■: maybe its cause i dont have frens
[19:15:55] DJLuna⌐■_■: :I
[19:16:06] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: or it's because your life is mostly led by strength and respect?
[19:16:10] DJLuna⌐■_■: everyone feels like an enemy
[19:16:21] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: So people who have a lot of that makes you feel constricted?
[19:16:21] DJLuna⌐■_■: my life has something to do with it
[19:16:52] DJLuna⌐■_■: i do
[19:16:56] DJLuna⌐■_■: in a way
[19:17:02] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Perspective is like your personal pair of glasses.
[19:17:09] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Everything you see gets filtered and changed depending on it.
[19:17:19] DJLuna⌐■_■: i feel surrounded by people that want to end me
[19:17:29] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Nobody wants to end you.
[19:17:32] DJLuna⌐■_■: maybe its just some left over paranoia
[19:17:36] DJLuna⌐■_■: from shade
[19:17:42] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Even in shade
[19:17:48] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: it was ridiculously paranoia
[19:17:54] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: and there was no real issue :Y
[19:18:00] DJLuna⌐■_■: its just how i am sometimes
[19:18:13] DJLuna⌐■_■: i think i need to relax
[19:18:23] DJLuna⌐■_■: im borderline over worked at this point
[19:18:27] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Everything's been happening pretty fast tbh
[19:18:37] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: From zephyr to now was all in a p short time spam.
[19:18:38] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: span*
[19:18:52] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: I don't think you've quite calmed down from most of those events.
[19:18:55] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Even if you think you ahve.
[19:18:56] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: have*
[19:19:12] DJLuna⌐■_■: idk
[19:19:51] DJLuna⌐■_■: Apr 16, 2015
[19:20:06] DJLuna⌐■_■: thats when i joined zephyr
[19:20:13] DJLuna⌐■_■: and i made shade like a day later
[19:20:16] DJLuna⌐■_■: :I
[19:25:26] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: And you think
[19:25:35] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: four months of nonstop pressure, stress, and upsetting events
[19:25:41] DJ◥▶◀◤Pyrope: Isn't still upsetting you?
[19:25:50] DJLuna⌐■_■: :I
[19:25:54] DJLuna⌐■_■: gdi pyro
[19:25:57] • DJLuna⌐■_■ sigh
[19:26:01] DJLuna⌐■_■: maybe