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<&marcovfefe> hmm 1/3 of the people I need are here
<%Dadarian> I know you need me
<%keldonia> so etranger?
<&marcovfefe> yes
<gorgan> babs and cloud i'm guessing are the other two
<&marcovfefe> there mini up
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<gorgan> oh wow
<Rolman> rip germany
<&marcovfefe> Cloud really should have asked about the state of his country before attacking
<&marcovfefe> Good job China
<&marcovfefe> You killed Germany
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<gorgan> hello cloud
<Rolman> it was an honor mark
<%Dadarian> fucking vive
<Fingon888> Vive la France
<Fingon888> Vive l'Empereur
<Cloud_Strife> Having discharged out obligations to Germany, Austria must see to its own defense.
<%keldonia> that was an update
<&marcovfefe> I should also mention
<&marcovfefe> The central European economy crashed
<%keldonia> would be expected
<&marcovfefe> I have Germany at -4% growth right now
<&marcovfefe> Pop growth is negative too
<%Dadarian> ahahahahaha
<gorgan> well who wants soda
<%keldonia> man war is bad
<%Dadarian> marcovfefe, giv us your Germans!
<&marcovfefe> Austria is at -3%
<&marcovfefe> But that's just because of the Empire wide railway strike, really
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<%keldonia> heh
<%keldonia> So german republic
<%keldonia> and whatever deal austria cuts?
<Arrow> wow
<Arrow> fucking frogs
<Shebedaone> guten morgen
<Arrow> why couldn't we have a half-decent German/Prussian player at some point in the game
<Cloud_Strife> Time for concessions to end the strikes, murderize rebel Poles, and dig in for the inevitable French invasion.
<&marcovfefe> The Hungarians are paying the railway workers 300% normal salary
<%keldonia> at least CS is mostly mountains facing poland
<%keldonia> and france
<%Dadarian> oh my lanta
<&marcovfefe> 7 hour workday, too
<gorgan> austerlitz II when
<@etranger01> As it turns out I did fine
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<Arrow> seems kind of out of character for Wilhelm to be so stubborn against surrender
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<Arrow> "Contrary to the domineering Bismarck, William was described as polite, gentlemanly and, while a staunch conservative, more open to certain classical liberal ideas than his grandson Wilhelm II."
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<&marcovfefe> It Is!
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<gorgan> hmm german republic is tempting
<&marcovfefe> No
<gorgan> but I think i'll stick with Belgium
<&marcovfefe> Smart move
<gorgan> QQ
<Arrow> so is it just the German parts of Austria that are getting uppity?
<Arrow> well, and the Poles
<Naxhi24> I want to ask for the German Republic, but I dont think I would get it...
<&marcovfefe> The German parts of Austria are very upset that the Kaiser went to war over this
<Rolman> im very happy qing'ing and marvelling at what i've done to world history thank you very much
<&marcovfefe> Hungarians are running around as Buda's government offices rapidly try to find money to pay railway workers
<Arrow> what are the Czechs doing?
<&marcovfefe> Waiting
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<gorgan> ominous
<Arrow> very
<Aedan> Don't take too much credit Rolman, if Baboush had a lick of patience and a compromising bone in his body, things wouldn't be nearly as bad
<Arrow> ^
<%keldonia> yeah
<Fingon888> Oh mark
<@etranger01> Moral of the story: Don't try to hold your finances for ransom, kids
<Fingon888> Looks like my Emperor historically died in 1866
<Arrow> so is the New World gonna get tons of German immigrants?
<Fingon888> I'll have him die over the skip if that's alright
<&marcovfefe> Works fine for me
<Rolman> im well aware aedan
<&marcovfefe> British healthcare is great
<Fingon888> Indeed, looks like liver disease took him out
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<Fingon888> Fuck my new Emperor will be 7 in 1870
<&marcovfefe> A wonderful regency
<Rolman> My Emperor will be dying of smallpox in 1875 at age 18
<&marcovfefe> $10 The regent will be a cival servant from London
<Rolman> if things go like otl a progressive will come in
<Rolman> ole Guangxu
<Naxhi24> fek
<Naxhi24> #GoT
<@etranger01> I was discussing how the new Emperor will be a child on a throne with a British man behind the throne puppeting the Emperor's little baby arms and talking in a fake Mexican accent
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<Arrow> is the Hannover Republic aligned with the Frankfurt Parliament?
<&marcovfefe> Yes
<&marcovfefe> The SPD, all republics, and all revolutionaries (Except the Ruhr communists and the polish who own Posen) are for the Frankfurt Parliament
<Fingon888> Mark, will you be looking for players for the Frankfurt Parliament?
<&marcovfefe> Player, singular
<Fingon888> Well yes of course
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<Fingon888> I'm certainly interested in it, by the way. I'll kick up that IC pace too
<&marcovfefe> Noted
<Fingon888> Cool
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<Naxhi24> Mark: I am also interested in the Frankfurt Parliament
<Cloud_Strife> One request, whoever is the new German Republic, can you not have an itchy trigger finger?
<marcovfefe> Noted
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<Rolman> can anybody off the top of their head tell me when jacob took care of the Kokandi in Central Asia
<Rolman> is relevant to an ic I'm writing
<@etranger01> It was pretty recent
<gorgan> i think it was two turns ago
<Aedan> Two turns ago I think, 1868
<Rolman> ok good
<Rolman> doesn't fuck with the narrative then
<&marcovfefe> Until the Mongols come
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<Rolman> betcha guys didn't know that most of W and SW China is locked in a mad max-esque race war fought with swords and spears rn did you
<gorgan> IC up
<@etranger01> I know I'm going to have to send troops to murder the shit out of the Guangxu Army in a few years
<@etranger01> Because southwest China tries to invade Vietnam by itself
<Rolman> Literal bandit armies tend to do that, sry
<gorgan> what are we officially calling the current war between germany and france?
<@etranger01> It's the Franco-German War
<Rolman> Franco-German War
<@etranger01> pt. II, Electric Boogaloo
<gorgan> so first is franco-prussian and this is Franco-german?
<@etranger01> No, they were all Franco-German
<@etranger01> The French name is Franco-German
<Naxhi24> hehe
<Naxhi24> XVG-[huawei]: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/syrian-republic-a-modern-day-aar.1040558/
<Rolman> xvg is gonna have a goddamn aneurysm
* Cloud_Strife re-reads the update.
<Cloud_Strife> How can the German Army suck this much?
<%Dadarian> baboush
<gorgan> they don't want to fight
<@etranger01> They actually did pretty well
<@etranger01> The castle strategy wasn't bad
<@etranger01> They just have no industrial base or rail network
<Aedan> It was also badly outnumbered and probably had low morale considering how much of their population was in rebellion
<@etranger01> And yeah, morale problems
<Cloud_Strife> 3-to-1 was the big issue.
<@etranger01> I was only outnumbered 3-to-1 on paper
<@etranger01> I had the larger, more capable force in the field
<gorgan> + the initative
<Cloud_Strife> General Maroicic hasn't done too bad but his German counterparts are rapidly disappearing around him.
<%keldonia> heh
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<Korona> bab got gat
<Cloud_Strife> I'm sure Wilhelm I will be comfortable in East Prussia while Austria figures out how this goes forward.
<%keldonia> heh
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* Cloud_Strife is tempted to release Congress Poland and salvage the German monarchies.
<@etranger01> Those perfidious French, with their public support for an independent Poland that goes back to the beginning of the century and their willingness to negotiate with a German government that isn't completely insane
<Cloud_Strife> In fact if the Poles are prepared to accept a Saxon King, I guess they can have that and Posen. I'm sure Germany won't mind.
<@etranger01> I, uh, probably not?
<Cloud_Strife> If the war continues i'm thinking simply of ways to move forward.
<Cloud_Strife> I'd rather not have a Bavarian Republic on the border.
<Aedan> I can't help but feel that this war continuing into the main skip update will be bad for Germany and Austria, particularly since the peace treaty that comes will be emplaced by Mark without negotiations
<gorgan> ^
<@etranger01> Also, it's 1871
<@etranger01> I've officially beaten the Second Empire's historical track record
<Cloud_Strife> Also, the cavorting with democratic governments is more towards France planting sister republics throughout Germany.
<@etranger01> The Frankfurt Parliament is advocating for a united German Republic
<Cloud_Strife> We're playing Empires, you, I, and Bab; we're not supposed to like democracy.
<@etranger01> I'm playing the Liberal Empire.
<Naxhi24> gotta remember CS that Nappy III got in power through democracy
<Naxhi24> technically
<@etranger01> That's true. I'm the only emperor in all the world with an electoral mandate
<Aedan> Also, Imperial Germany's not exactly had a great history with France, so there's reason to support an non-imperial Germany
<Cloud_Strife> As President of the Second Republic but the self-coup was hardly democratic.
<@etranger01> There was a follow-up plebiscite to legitimize it
<@etranger01> Which was totally a free and fair vote
* etranger01 coughs
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<Fingon888> http://www.captiongenerator.com/656462/Inside-The-Kaiserbunker
<Fingon888> Even more apt now
<Cloud_Strife> Aedan, if Bab doesn't surrender the war continues regardless of what Austria does.
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<Cloud_Strife> If he really is intent on continuing till the French are at the Brandenburg Gate then I can't do much about that.
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<Arrow> bahahaha fingon888
<Arrow> just watched that now
<Arrow> "It's ok Luft, you'll get out of reparations now"
<Arrow> lost it at that
<Naxhi24> the best part of the video was ^^
<Cloud_Strife> I hope Bab gets to my letter.
<Arrow> its actually pretty sad though
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<Arrow> the German/Prussian players haven't let Germany/Prussia like it needs to be led
<%keldonia> I was almost Germany
<%keldonia> I just wanted a competent OE player to take over
<Cloud_Strife> Hm and he's not answering private PMs either...
<%keldonia> cynide
* Cloud_Strife ponders.
<Scrapknight> i've been reading along
<Scrapknight> sounds like der kaiser is in deep merde
<Cloud_Strife> It would be a helluva a lot easier if I could do orders for Germany from here on out.
<Scrapknight> does he have a shot?
<Cloud_Strife> If he his form of blocking was other than taking a blow to the head, probably.
<Cloud_Strife> * -he
<Scrapknight> that seems somewhat counterproductive
<Scrapknight> if he goes red can i play him
<Scrapknight> lol jk
<Aedan> Germany doesn't really have a shot, barring some sudden intervention, or a miracle.
<Cloud_Strife> A lot depends on if i'm comfortable keeping the Austrian Army in Germany.
<Cloud_Strife> I do have a general idea of how he could win but Bab won't like it.
<Cloud_Strife> I gurantee it.
<%keldonia> kissing russia's ass?
<Scrapknight> I dunno, if I'm russia in this situation i'm thinking "lolno have fun out there"
<Scrapknight> I don't see the upside for them anyway
<Cloud_Strife> No, he'd have to chug along on his own steam.
<Cloud_Strife> But i'm not going to say how publicly.
<Cloud_Strife> For obvious reasons.
<Scrapknight> fair nuff
<Scrapknight> out of curiosity are any cool countries open
<Aedan> Frankfurter Parliament Germany
<Scrapknight> for real?
<Cloud_Strife> See the topic.
<Aedan> Yeah, check the topic
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<Shebedaone> Guten Abend
<Scrapknight> > german republic
<Scrapknight> yeppppppp
<%keldonia> I am most sad for Ludwig II
<Scrapknight> Should I PM Fry or just wait for him here?
<Arrow> PM, I think he's off for the night
<Aedan> Probably PM
<Arrow> finally some competent leadership for Germany
<Arrow> make Germany great again
<Scrapknight> i shall do what I can
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<Scrapknight> Lemme read the new update, I guess I missed it
<Scrapknight> ah
<Scrapknight> well that would certainly do it
<Cloud_Strife> The short story is loudly yelling orders a national policy does not make.
<Scrapknight> I admit I'm not entirely sure how this happened but I'm rather glad it did
<@etranger01> Don't hold your finances for ransom, kids
<Aedan> Also, fighting a war to get out of reparations from a prior war you lost just two years is a bad idea
<%keldonia> and not improving your army in the meantime?
<Cloud_Strife> I'm totally prepared to fight the defense of Austria in Germany at this point.
<%keldonia> I mean...
<Cloud_Strife> I think it's only fair Bab has to listen to my strategy this time around.
<Scrapknight> I really don't see why he restarted the war in eighteen months
<Scrapknight> He's literally trying the same thing again but from a worse position
<Cloud_Strife> Putting down Poles will be excellent basic training for new Romanian conscripts.
<Scrapknight> Anyway do I need an expansive application thingy or should I just ask for it?
<@etranger01> At least you won't get that stab-in-the-back myth in Germany, Cloud
<Cloud_Strife> And Hungarians too, seems like they're losing their warrior's spirit.
<@etranger01> Having missed with the dagger and fallen on it
<Cloud_Strife> When my armies actually start losing we I can start sighing.
<@etranger01> Okay
<Scrapknight> sent off
<Scrapknight> we shall see what comes to pass
<Scrapknight> Etranger, you're la France, yes?
<@etranger01> I have that honor
<Scrapknight> Very good
<Scrapknight> I applied for Frankfurt so
<Scrapknight> hopefully we shall have the honor of ending prussian tyranny
<Scrapknight> and creating a better germany
<@etranger01> Nice
<Scrapknight> tbh i'm still pretty surprised germany screwed up so colossaly, but i suppose i'll take it