A lot of empty space part 1

from /hhg/ Helluva Hotel general #707
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As much as I find that off the cuff tweet about "sinners" not being able to leave the top circle of Hell to be stupid, it would be the only explanation as to why there are Exterminations in the first place

Look at all that space, empty land that could easily support huge populations of people.

Considering there does not even seem to be a functional government in hell outside of some pseudo Somalia tier non-existent group, there would be nothing to stop some giant corporation from bulldozing the farms and making giant urban metropolises, who cares about farm food when the sinners will just cannibalize themselves.

In fact, Charlie should just turn to become an urban developer. I'm sure you could waylay the Exterminations if you bulldoze the upper ring and rebuild it in a giant ecumenopolis or a mega-city.
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Even just replacing certain now-redunant parts of the city (districts destroyed by turf wars, or ones that belonged to an overlord that had become brownfield areas due to neglect or that overlord's death) with housing estates would improve the situation.
Why keep slums around when you can just build highrises and the like.
The Soviets had proven that you can do this on the cheap, AND improve the life quality of the residents with some good planning (literally one of the few things they were good at):
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGVBv7svKLo

I mean, it wouldn't be pretty, but it would be liveable for the average sinner.
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Of course the logical argument could be made that Charlie lacks the resources, respect, fear and/or the authority to go for a mass urban redevelopment and thus has to go for more low-cost/citizen impact ideas.

I recall that Viv said that Lucifer does not give a shit about the welfare of the sinners of Hell. Which naturally explains why no such real attempt to resolve the overpopulation crisis has been made. As far as Luci is concerned, Heaven is bearing the brunt of the cost of managing the crisis, and he's segregated from the punished masses (throw in some contempt for Humanity and you've got your apathetic leader)

Charlie's idea may be far fetched and fantastical. But it may well be the most realistic thing she can do in her position.
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Yeah.
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>Dictator Charlie accidentally solved the overpopulation problem with infrastructure but then kept killing people anyway
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It's implied in the story that even with nearly all of Hell being reduced to tower blocks, overpopulation remained an issue, so a set number of people are still liquidated on a daily basis.
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I think the "overpopulation" problem is about more than there just not being enough space, otherwise why bother sending exterminators down? If its just sinners sleeping in filth on the stairs of an overcrowded apartment building, Onions Green-style, who gives a sht? It's HELL they're there to suffer, let them rot instead of organizing a huge fighting force to cull them annually. I think having an excessively large demon population might pose some sort of threat to the mortal world or to Heaven (there is that one segment in the opening of the pilot where you have all those demonic-looking eyes focusing on earth), hence why Heaven is so concerned about Hell's population.
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That could be it.
But if average sinners can't even cross into the other rings, what chance do they have crossing back onto Earth?
Only Hellborne demons seem to be capable of that.
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Maybe its some kind of collective power thing. Get enough sinners together and they can start pulling off weird sht, like the orks and their bullsht collective unconscious reality bending.
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>Charlie's fw she originally seized control of Hell because she thought that forcing the housing infrastructure project would be enough to fix the overpopulation problem
>Her fw it wasn't enough to fix things
>Her fw she had to use her new power to enforce more drastic measures
>She didn't mean to become a monster, she swears
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That's an interesting angle.
>rather than going fully BurgSys on day one, Charlie slowly eased into the mayhem, as her more and more drastic plans failed to bring about the results
>eventually, she just stopped caring - there was no-one left to oppose her, and the sinners would only keep on piling up
>it's even better this way - rather than an eternity of mind-numbing torment, their existence, and therefore, their suffering, would eventually come to an end

>or, at least, that's what she keeps telling herself
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>Started off trying to peacefully coax sinners into redeeming themselves and leaving Hell entirely
>Lost her mother to an exterminator
>Developed a more personal hatred for Heaven and became more willing to use force to improve things rather than just trying to sweet talk everyone into playing nice
>First attempt didn't work out
>Second attempt didn't either
>Third times the charm? Hardly
>Eventually she just gave up and bitterly satisfied herself with maintaining the status quo

Scans for me
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It probably didn't help with hiw much katie made fun of charlie during the whole thing
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>Katie was among the first victims when Charlie finally broke and started using her authority as a tool of her own vindictiveness without any other motivation
>Her assets?
>Seized by the crown
>The network she worked for?
>Charged with lese-majeste
>Her punishment?
>A choice:
>Option one: become a mouthpiece for the queen
>Option two: have you seen the new enforcer prototypes?
>You might not recognize them
>But that's Razzle and Dazzle underneath all that armor and weaponry
>You remember them, right?
>They certainly remember you
>Unfortunately, they're all but spent in their usefulness to the enforcer program
>Her Royal Highness needs a new subject to experiment on
>You wouldn't want to be pressed into service, would you Katie?
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>insult some blonde lesbo - allegedly the Princess of Hell - about how bullsht her idea is to "redeem" sinners
>after all, you've been there for 20+ years, working your ass off, even more so than you did while you were alive, just to get into a position of relative comfort
>needle her on until she insults, try to claw her eyes out, humiliating her in the process

>a year later, Queen Lilith dies during the Extermination
>Well, sht
>...oh, the blonde lesbo WAS her daughter
>...in a couple of months, Lucifer is dead
>his daughter takes the helm
>starts purging Hell's nobility
>bulldozers all of Pentagram, erects a massive commie housing estate in its place to solve overpopulation
>it's not enough
>she then starts to exterminate Sinners, with numbers tattooed on their arms an all

>for some reason, she spared you
>you are now forced to give a dry presentation about the daily deaths, production numbers, etc, for hours on end, every day
>there's no alchol, drgs, tobaco - anything to numb the pain of existence

>so far, you haven't been given a number, nor shoved into one of the concrete boxes to review every mistake you've ever made to end up where you are until your time's up...
>...and yet, you spend every night, tearlessly weeping yourself into sleep, recounting your role in this atrocity
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So how "canon" is primce anon getting a black eye in D. Charlie?
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*Prince
I am very tired
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same
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He probably doesn't.
If anything, it's the indication of the alt. timeline, where he sticks around, and is actually there to stop Solagne from killing Lilith.
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It's not d. charlie
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I kind of got the opposite sense; him having a falling out of his own with his family would be ample motivation to fk off to Purgatory and get away from everyone, but then I suppose him going to the hotel to be with Charlie does point to him sticking around
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It's not d. charlie you tardlt
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>Dictator Charlie, but it's a mash-together of AU and the Anonverse
>Anon is somewhat relieved to hear that there are people who want to help his sister's project, although they're quite strange - very different from the usual sinners
>a lot of them have very far-reaching connections, too, but all seem to have little interest in power
>the attack on Lilith happens, but it is thwarted by both Anon and Charlie's entire posse
>Solagne is captured, but while Lucifer seems calm, the "anons" around Charlie are furious
>they convince both Charlie and Anon to take a stance on the matter

>with some clever political manouvering, alliances and the like, Charlie and Anon are put into power
>not as Royalty, but as paramount leaders
>Charlie's effectively a dictator, with Anon as her Second-in-Command, and the anons and Charlie's friends from the hotel acting as the staff of her new regime
>instead of some Burgundian System malarkey, the anons and Anon himself keep Charlie on the straight and narrow - not that that's all that necessary, as there's no tragedy to send her down a path of totalitarianism
>Hell itself now functions as more or less the same, except less chaotic, with a tentative rule of law replacing the "might makes right" set-up it had before
>there are still some anomalies, and the government seems to swing between being a minarchy to full-blown socialism, but over-all, it's far more stable than before, with redemption being mandatory, though with an optional starting date, sinners being introduced to other rings of Hell, and with renewed negotiations with Heaven
>it's hard work, but Charlie isn't alone, so it's steady-going, while her father enjoys some much-needed rest in retirement, with the copyright on his themeparks now firmly enforced by the state to put an end to Mammon's shenanigans
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At last, we have achieved autism singularity!
So what happens to Solagne then, with 20 angry donut steeles all shooting her death glares. They just gonna parade her through the streets Roman victory parade style?
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Nah, she still pretty much imprisoned. The anons are more pissed at Heaven not being able to obey it's OWN apparent rules, and actively wanting to pick a fight with Hell, thus bringing about Doomsday prematurely.
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>Stretch to Solagne: "You do realize that completing your mission probably would have set the end of days in motion, right?"
>"I had my orders"
>"Holy crackers you're a daft fking nutcase"