Think self-righteous tsundere who can't admit she made a mistake. :D
[15:59] <Tangent> And who's kind of like a bitchier Sayaka with a palette swap
[16:00] <Tangent> heh Big Damn Hero...sounds about right xD
[16:00] <Sahara> Hah, so mashing Kyokos personality with Sayakas motivation?
[16:01] <Tangent> Nah, she's got the blueberry self-righteousness
[16:01] <Tangent> But definitely Kyoko-tier social skills
[16:01] <Tangent> The four words she can't say: "I made a mistake."
[16:01] <Tangent> :D
[16:01] <Tangent> WHAT COULD GO WRONG
[16:01] <Sahara> Hah
[16:01] <Sahara> She fwubbed.
[16:01] <Tangent> GEE A PALADIN OF JUSTICE WITH SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS
[16:01] <Tangent> WONDER HOW THAT COULD BACKFIRE :D
[16:02] <Tangent> But yeah blood magic+regen= infinite fiery death machine
[16:02] <Sahara> Same way Avari's goodie two shoes healer backfired haha. Just need to kill one innocent and watch the breakdown~
[16:03] <Tangent> "I...no, no, no, no...I can't...I didn't...didn't mean to..."
[16:03] <Tangent> >Cue denial
[16:03] <Tangent> >She doesn't hurt innocents.
[16:04] <Tangent> >It had to have been a monster in disguise or something
[16:04] <Sahara> How will she deal with herself when forced to make a between two equally bad choices~
[16:04] <Tangent> heheheheheed
[16:04] <Tangent> Probably by dithering too long and then doing one out of desperation
[16:04] <Tangent> Since uhhh she's kinda sorta...well, not naive.
[16:04] <Tangent> But she doesn't like the idea of a no-win scenario.
[16:05] <Sahara> Avari's backstory choice was "let monster girl kill people" or "capture, mind wipe and traumatise monster girl" heh. How would your paladin deal with a scenario like that :3
[16:05] <Tangent> And has a very strong image of herself as a Good Person Making Things Better- very much the hero of her own story.
[16:05] <Tangent> Probably B
[16:05] <Tangent> which uhhh
[16:05] <Sahara> B involves basically frying their brain with light magic heh
[16:05] <Sahara> leaving them a broken wreck~
[16:05] <Tangent> Option C- Kill her. But then if she's reacting like a person, begging for her life and all that, that...uh, she wouldn't take it well.
[16:06] <Sahara> What if she knew said monster girl as a good friend before she was corrupted~
[16:06] <Tangent> ahahaha
[16:07] <Tangent> >wow I didn't know it was actually possible to witch out in this setting
[16:07] <Sahara> Thats the choice Avari had to make in her backstory hah. Real nasty for a sweet and kind healer girl hehe
[16:07] <Tangent> heheheh
[16:08] <Tangent> What'd be a fitting name? Susan?
[16:08] <Sahara> hard choices are fun~
[16:08] <Sahara> And hmmm
[16:08] <Sahara> Susan is an old woman name
[16:08] <Tangent> Thinking of something somewhat fitting for a paladin wannabe....
[16:09] <Sahara> Hmmm, western or eastern name?
[16:09] <Tangent> Either works really.
[16:10] <Sahara> Paladins with names that are based on religion or references to light or fire are always good. Like some bible saints name, or an asian derivitive of classic paladin stuff
[16:11] <Tangent> Lucy for Lucifer? xD
[16:12] <Sahara> Too close to Lucianna's name hehe
[16:12] <Tangent> Point xD
[16:13] <Sahara> Could be something fire related.
[16:13] <Sahara> Based on the japanese word for fire, Kasai
[16:13] <Tangent> Hmmm. :D
[16:14] <Tangent> Well I could go with names she chose herself rather than mind wiping?
[16:14] <Sahara> Could do, what name did she choose herself? or would she constantly be trying to think of what to call herself, and change her name all the time
[16:14] <Tangent> heh
[16:15] <Tangent> "My name doesn't matter. This totally isn't because I can't remember, it's because I'm a badass!"
[16:15] <Tangent> :D
[16:16] <Sahara> hehe
[16:17] <Sahara> "Danger is my middle name... or actually what was my middle name again? yeah danger works"
[16:17] <Tangent> heee
[16:18] <Tangent> "I'm pretty sure your name isn't actually Badass Mcfierydeath."
[16:18] <Tangent> :D
[16:18] <Sahara> My name is MAX FORCE
[16:18] <Tangent> "I AM JUSTICE." "...No you're not."
[16:21] <Sahara> "I am Justice! or was it justine.... or justin... fuck i cant remember"
[16:26] <Tangent> Yeahhh lots of 7s and 8s on this build
[16:26] <Tangent> Think I'm going to have to gimp it intentionally just to not feel dirty about playing it lol
[16:27] <Sahara> How do you mean?
[16:27] <Tangent> about 3 stats are near 8 without coin boosts spent
[16:29] <Sahara> Is that on my system or the old one?
[16:29] <Sahara> Because its quite common to have more stats on my system than the previous one
[16:30] <Sahara> since ive added boosts to powers  and perks
[16:30] <Sahara> and some specs have extra stats now thanks to balancing
[16:30] <Tangent> Old one heh
[16:30] <Sahara> oh
[16:30] <Sahara> nvm then!
[16:30] <Tangent> Yeahhh don't want to get dirty looks for playing the character
[16:30] <Tangent> even if I intend to actively screw myself over characterwise.
[16:36] <Sahara> just spread stats out instead of monostatting heh, then you wont get dirty looks
[16:36] <Sahara> or just pull an alicious, and monostat as hard as possible
[16:36] <Tangent> Thing is I currently am sitting at near 7 in Vit, Str, and Mag before spending a single coin on extra stats.
[16:37] <Tangent> ...heh
[16:37] <Tangent> Actually the rolls being bullshit works well.
[16:38] <Tangent> Explains just why she's such...well, a self-righteous bitch. :D
[16:39] <Sahara> haha would work!
[16:40] <Tangent> Hmmm.
[16:40] <Tangent> Should I spend the gold coin on 2 perks?
[16:41] <Tangent> That way it's mostly 8s in stats except luck, less bullshit...
[16:41] <Tangent> I could get Closure for RP reasons...
[16:45] <Sahara> You could do, golding for RP perks is often a good plan, especially since perks give stats these days so its not so bad
[16:45] <Tangent> otoh that's like 7 perks so lol
[16:46] <Tangent> Dun want it to look bullshit aaaaaaaaaa
[16:49] <Tangent> Hmmm.
[16:49] <Tangent> Should I go for kind of jack of all trades?
[16:50] <Sahara> Play what you would find fun Tangent! thats the essense of the game hehe
[17:02] <Tangent> 8s across the board and a 6 in luck doesn't seem TOO bullshit, right?
[17:03] <Sahara> Not at all!
[17:03] <Tangent> Yeah, went for intentionally gimping myself a bit by golding for perks but eh. xD
[17:03] <Tangent> >She'll have all the time in the world to regret choosing closure :D
[17:04] <Sahara> Or you could make it so she didnt necessarily choose the other perks, she just golded and got stuck with it :3
[17:04] <Tangent> Maybe
[17:05] <Tangent> I'm just toying with the idea of her remembering enough to know that "this is the future you chose" :D
[17:05] <Sahara> hah
[17:05] <Sahara> another bad choice :3
[17:05] <Tangent> >I can't have made a mistake! It wasn't a mistake!
[17:05] <Sahara> Did she kill a little girl in her backstory? Or become one through another means
[17:06] <Tangent> Thinking other means. No tragedy. No car. Just a onetime offer to do something meaningful. :D
[17:07] <Tangent> But yeah stats of 8 across the board make sense?
[17:07] <Sahara> "Hey kid, wanna be a hero?" hue
[17:07] <Sahara> and is that before or after spending coins?
[17:07] <Tangent> After
[17:07] <Tangent> luck's at 6
[17:08] <Tangent> But yeah basically not-me chose...poorly. :D
[17:08] <Sahara> Hmm, usually one or two stats above 10 is the norm. but your girl is well rounded
[17:08] <Tangent> Yeah
[17:08] <Tangent> Thinking that she's unimpressive in any given area
[17:08] <Tangent> But regeneration+blood magic
[17:08] <Sahara> mhm she will be able to last
[17:08] <Tangent> means she can effectively spam 8-tier magic
[17:09] <Tangent> and is a bit tougher
[17:09] <Tangent> Less fiery death more slow burn?
[17:09] <Tangent> Time to see what White Coin does heh.
[17:11] <Tangent> Maybe just fluff it instead tbh...
[17:11] <Sahara> You could fluff it easy tbh, white coin could be entirely fluffed.
[17:11] <Tangent> mmm
[17:11] <Tangent> I mean I suppose I could just take white coin
[17:12] <Tangent> since the fake life thing would be an RP opportunity- aka: downright horrifying :D
[17:12] <Tangent> Hmmmmmmm.
[17:13] <Tangent> Tempting tempting.
[17:13] <Tangent> Since uhhh her reaction is going to be "...I literally don't know any of you people and you've been magically brainwashed to know the fake me. This is amazingly creepy and I am not okay with this."
[17:14] <Tangent> Bonus points for the reaction basically being to stay away from them- not sure if they're even real, and them not reacting well to it.
[17:14] <Sahara> Hahaha
[17:14] <Sahara> That would be creepy yeah
[17:15] <Sahara> Man Sahara has it weird too. Her parents were brainwashed to believe she is her sister [the old mahou] and all their memories of him as a boy are gone.
[17:15] <Tangent> mmm
[17:15] <Tangent> But yeah anything to make the paladin miserable
[17:15] <Tangent> with bonus points of "this is literally your own fault"
[17:15] <Sahara> Just make sure there are lots of tough choices
[17:15] <Sahara> if you RPd and came on one of my quests i could make her miserable~
[17:16] <Tangent> heee
[17:16] <Tangent> White coin stuff doesn't apply though, right?
[17:16] <Sahara> Its guns and GRIM after all heh.
[17:16] <Tangent> Since I see fake laifu as less a perk in this context
[17:16] <Tangent> and more "THE TRAUMA TRAIN NEVER STOPS CHOO CHOO"
[17:16] <Sahara> And not in my system no, white coin is more of a fluff thing that is explained away.
[17:16] <Tangent> mmm
[17:17] <Tangent> Huh, actually is fake parents still a thing in your system?
[17:17] <Sahara> You can have fake laifu, but you can just RP it as part of the backstory and such
[17:17] <Sahara> and yes
[17:17] <Sahara> and it now has a stat boost and benefit
[17:17] <Tangent> Ah.
[17:17] <Sahara> Sahara has fake parents
[17:17] <Tangent> So no stat boost, but all the trauma :D
[17:17] <Sahara> which will be a plot point
[17:17] <Tangent> "They're not real. It's not hurting anyone if I leave."
[17:17] <Sahara> hehe
[17:17] <Sahara> but they love her~
[17:17] <Tangent> "They're not real. They're not real. They're not real."
[17:17] <Tangent> :D
[17:18] <Sahara> "why are you running away, do you hate us? did we do something wrong?"
[17:18] <Tangent> "Stop it stop it please just stop"
[17:18] <Tangent> :D
[17:18] <Sahara> "Why doesnt our daughter love us!"
[17:18] <Tangent> Yeahhhh that could get ugly very fast
[17:19] <Tangent> since either they're real people that got mindwhammied or they're not and either way I don't see it having a happy ending
[17:19] <Sahara> "Dont you remember all the wonderful memories, us taking you to the part, your first day at school?"
[17:19] <Sahara> "Do you really hate me that much?"
[17:19] <Tangent> Especially since a fiery- literally and figuratively- insecure hero wannabe is totally going to react in a level headed and mature fashion.
[17:19] <Tangent> :D
[17:20] <Sahara> "YOURE NOT MY REAL MOM GOSH!"
[17:20] <Tangent> Pfft.
[17:20] <Sahara> "Oh sweetie she's in her rebellious phase.."
[17:20] <Tangent> The one time that phrase is literally applicable.
[17:21] <Sahara> "Is this about a boy? You'd tell me if you were seeing someone wouldnt you? I think its time we had the talk"
[17:21] <Tangent> snicker
[17:21] <Tangent> also hmm
[17:21] <Tangent> Do you think I should drop Str down to 6
[17:21] <Sahara> >cue awkward sex ed talk with a fake mother
[17:21] <Tangent> and take 11 mag
[17:21] <Sahara> you could do
[17:21] <Tangent> "I am in hell no amount of heroing is worth this whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy"
[17:22] <Tangent> Hmmm.
[17:22] <Tangent> Str 6 for a melee build workable?
[17:22] <Sahara> "And then the boy takes his thingie and puts it inside you... and thats where babies come from" "Stop it this isnt about that i need to go deal with a monster!"
[17:23] <Sahara> All builds are workable, a good GM will balance enemies against the players
[17:24] <Tangent> Mmm.
[17:24] <Tangent> Hmmm do you think 9 Str, 8 Mag works better than 6 Str, 11 Mag for a mostly melee build that spams blood magic?
[17:27] <Sahara> Hmm, probably higher STR would help there yes.
[17:27] <Tangent> So reasonably stabby but spamming level 8 fire magic forever?
[17:28] <Tangent> Hmmm. So this character...
[17:28] <Sahara> the spec trees are getting a rework, so you get more spells, but it will be based more on mana cost than actual magic level
[17:28] <Tangent> mmm but made her with QB system
[17:29] <Tangent> 8 in Str. Can swing the swords prettty hard.
[17:29] <Tangent> 8 Ag- reasonable dodgy.
[17:29] <Tangent> 8 Vit. Won't go splat.
[17:29] <Tangent> 8 Mag- wheee entry level magic spam
[17:29] <Tangent> So basically she won't be better than anyone at something but she'll be decent at everything y/n?
[17:30] <Tangent> Still tsundere. :D
[17:30] <Sahara> Mhm
[17:30] <Sahara> And tsundere works hehe
[17:31] <Tangent> And enhanced outfit, dual weapon, and gifted mesh well?
[17:31] <Tangent> Bit tankier, ranged option, and extra use of lolbloodmagic
[17:32] <Sahara> Mhm!
[17:33] <Tangent> ...Heh. Less Bloodborne boss, more every Dark Souls PC ever. :D
[17:33] <Sahara> Just strip naked and combat roll
[17:33] <Tangent> Pfft.
[17:34] <Tangent> "But my costume isn't skimpy!"
[17:34] <Tangent> "Are you SURE this will work? You're not lying, right?"
[17:37] <Tangent> heh guess I'll port her over to your system at some point xD
[17:38] <Tangent> ...huh, covering your weapon in fire is a low level fire spell isn't it
[17:38] <Tangent> Literally a Dark Souls character xD
[17:38] <Tangent> *Well, what is it?*
[17:38] <Tangent> :D
[17:39] <Sahara> Mhm that counts as a weapon augment hehe
[17:39] <Tangent> River?
[17:39] <Tangent> Just for the irony of a fire girl named that?
[17:39] <Sahara> Hah
[17:39] <Sahara> could do
[17:40] <Tangent> Amelia?
[17:41] <Sahara> I like that name
[17:41] <Sahara> Mainly because it shortens to Amy, and thats one of my best friend's names heh
[17:43] <Tangent> Like...I have literally no idea how to do a 7 year old storywise
[17:43] <Tangent> Like just reactions and stuff
[17:44] <Sahara> Well Id have just gone with the "body of a kid, brain of an adult" route there
[17:44] <Tangent> Right right but even with that escape it's >body of a kid that age that's problematic
[17:45] <Sahara> If you are planning to get freaky, then yeah haha
[17:45] <Tangent> Not even that and ew lol
[17:45] <Tangent> I mean more just "how does the world react to a kid that apparent age"
[17:45] <Sahara> >tfw Kitteh screwed a 10 year old Talia
[17:46] <Tangent> o.0
[17:46] <Sahara> and yeah i see what you mean
[18:01] <Tangent> Sword Ace Amelia?
[18:01] <Sahara> Sounds like the title of an anime heh
[18:02] <Tangent> Is that a good or bad thing
[18:02] <Tangent> also I blame sword art online for that :p
[18:02] <Sahara> pfft
[18:02] <Sahara> and its a fun thing
[18:22] <Tangent>  "Justice is a fire that can never be put out! I, Flaming Ace Paladin Amelia, will burn away all that's evil in this world!"
[18:22] <Tangent> y/n
[18:22] <Tangent> Or maybe "The fires of justice can't be put out! I, Flaming Ace Paladin Amelia, will burn away all evil in this world!"
[02:34] <Tangent> This PC actually is kind of a generalist lol