[e] abusing ops

19:56] <@THERetroGamerNY> I mean... it's rather basic.
[19:56] <+UnderCoverNerd> ya, i mean it's pretty obvious to anyone who isn't trying to spin the situation
[19:56] <+barabbas`> I think Trump was a bonus, they preferred anyone but Hillary
[19:56] <+UnderCoverNerd> barabbas`: right, even if you take trump's public statements out, you still have hillary being vocally anti russia
[19:56] <@THERetroGamerNY> Well, Hillary and Putin kinda hated each other. lol
[19:56] <+UnderCoverNerd> and pro sanctions
[19:56] <@[e]> why wouldent they want hillary?
[19:56] <+UnderCoverNerd> and ya, their past relationship was quite icy
[19:57] <+UnderCoverNerd> so basically you have to conjure up an idea that hillary was putting on a show for it.... and i guess colluding with russia herself.... to release her own dirty laundry? that's probably more plausible lmbo
[19:57] <+barabbas`> UnderCoverNerd Since they probably started their dissinformation campaign before they knew who would get nominated, Trump was just a great big cherry on top.
[19:57] <@[e]> hillary and bill got 100's of million of dolars from russia
[19:57] <+Raven`X> Prove that please
[19:57] <+TonySnark> Thu 06.08.17 140816#ChristianDebate: <@[e]> hillary 2020
[19:57] <@[e]> seems like they would of wanted hillary
[19:58] <+barabbas`> They didn't want Hillary because she had already slapped down Putin on more than one occasion.
[19:58] <@THERetroGamerNY> E, Hillary is disliked by Putin and others over there. They clearly wanted Trump.
[19:58] <+Cryptodira> [e]  They did?  Got evidence of that?
[19:58] <@[e]> she did?
[19:58] * +vvs ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
[19:58] <+Cryptodira> No, you don't.
[19:58] <@THERetroGamerNY> I'm not even sure why such a basic thing is up for debate. O_o
[19:58] <@[e]> when did she slap putin?
[19:58] <+Cryptodira> Wingnuts can't let go of or quit Clinton.
[19:59] <+TonySnark> Ignore questions for sources and ask for others for clarification. Love it.
[19:59] <@[e]> i didnt bring her up
[19:59] <+TonySnark> Obfuscation 101
[[19:59] <+barabbas`> When she was sec of State, plus she would be like Obama and keep sanctions on Russia.
[19:59] <+Cryptodira> This is the claim I saw: <@[e]> hillary and bill got 100's of million of dolars from russia
[19:59] <@THERetroGamerNY> barabbas`... yeah, I doubt any major screwing with an election just happens overnight. Obama was aware of it all... seems to go back years.
[19:59] <+Cryptodira> No evidence offered.  Just another reminder of Clinton Derangement.
[20:00] <@[e]> u think the sanctions matter that much?
[20:00] <@THERetroGamerNY> Would be interesting to see a precise timeline, but I doubt anybody knows.
[20:00] <+Cryptodira> [e]  Russian sanctions have nearly crippled their economy, yeah.
[20:00] <@[e]> it was befor
[20:00] <@[e]> so yeah
[20:00] <@[e]> it wasent?
[20:00] <+Cryptodira> https://www.forbes.com/sites/timdaiss/2016/08/19/prolonged-sanctions-rip-into-russia-causing-angst-for-putin/#1f93fd0c39e5
[20:01] <@[e]> im not clicking links
[20:01] <@[e]> if thats for me
[20:01] <+Cryptodira> Then you remain ignorant.
[20:01] <+TonySnark> lololol
[20:01] <@[e]> i dont do link wars
[20:01] <+Cryptodira> Welcome to the Internet.  No one likes you.
[20:01] <+TonySnark> "link wars"
[20:01] <+Cryptodira> [e]  It wasn't a link war.  It was a source which answered your naive question.
[20:01] <@[e]> insulting ppl can get u  removed from here
[20:01] <+TonySnark> It's called sourcing your arguments.
[20:01] <+Cryptodira> [e]  Who was insulted?
[20:01] <+Cryptodira> And why?
[20:02] <+barabbas`> THERetroGamerNY Russia has been using dissinformation and trying to control our elections for years. They just got a perfect storm with Trump. They were able to fake news reports and get them to his twitter account for him to retweet...
[20:02] <@THERetroGamerNY> Oh, I know barabbas` . Just politics as usual.
[20:02] <+barabbas`> THERetroGamerNY: There is a guy, ex counterintelligence, Cliff Watts who laid it all out a cople months ago.
[20:03] <@[e]> i see it more as the new boogieman for the dems who cant get over they lost
[20:03] <@[e]> its been goin on for years
19:59] * @[e] shrugs
20:03] <+Cryptodira> [e]  Who cares how you see it?  Facts are facts.
[20:03] <+TonySnark> [e], who was insulted?
[20:03] <@[e]> barry knew about it in 2015
[20:03] <+Cryptodira> Democrats didn't create the Trump investigations.
[20:03] <@[e]> did nothing'
[20:04] <+Raven`X> He did?
[20:04] <+barabbas`> THERetroGamerNY it was the weaponization of information they got from hacking the DNC, plus, what was talked about a couple days ago was the RNC data base that targets certain counties to flip. The RNC claims it wasn't hacked, so how did they get the database.
[20:04] <+barabbas`> gotta run, honey do.
[20:04] <+Raven`X> You can of course prove that [e]
[20:04] <+Cryptodira> Obama knew about what?  Oh, right. [e] doesn't support claims with links.
[20:04] * barabbas` is now known as barabbas`bb
[20:04] <+Raven`X> oh, I forgot.
[20:04] <@[e]> barbar ya the emails shown how rotton the dnc is
[20:05] <+Cryptodira> Emails showed what?  That some DNC staffers talked smack?
[20:05] <+Cryptodira> LOLLOLOLOLOOLLOLLOL
[20:05] <+Cryptodira> Is that your best argument?
[20:05] <@[e]> how many got fired over such smack
[20:05] <@[e]> 6?
[20:05] <+Cryptodira> A couple resigned.
[20:05] <+Cryptodira> And?
[20:05] <@[e]> think that was last number
[20:05] <+Sardaukar> they didnt deny the emails [e] THEY JUST CRIED THAT THEY WERE LEAKED
[20:05] <@[e]> and what?
[20:06] <+Raven`X> So... That's a no.
[20:06] <@[e]> lol sard yep
[20:06] <@[e]> its so silly
[20:06] <+Cryptodira> Was it?  Can you show that?  Oh, right, you are on the Internet and don't do links.
[20:06] <+Raven`X> [e] is just blathering again. got it.
[20:06] <+Raven`X> [e] is just blathering again. got it.
[20:06] <+Sardaukar> leaking GOOD, unless leaking is from our servers!~
[20:06] <+Cryptodira> Raven`X  Yeah, earlier he called Comey a "woman".
[20:06] <@[e]> lmao
[20:07] <+Cryptodira> He viewed Comey as being a "coward" and "weak".  Thus, a woman!
[20:07] <+Sardaukar> comey  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB7xgovXcAI6aRY.jpg
[20:07] <+Cryptodira> Because, women.  You know.
[20:07] <+Raven`X> Typical trump supporter.
[20:08] <+Cryptodira> Women are clearly inferior to men in courage and strength!
[20:08] <@[e]> crypt i said that in debates
[20:09] <@[e]> this isnt debates
[20:09] <+Cryptodira> [e]  So, you admit you said it.  Thanks for introducing it here.
[20:09] <+Cryptodira> You said it, you admitted it here.  Got it.
[20:09] <@[e]> keep other  channel drama out of here please
[20:09] <@[e]> ty
[20:09] <+Cryptodira> [e]  It's not other channel drama.  You said here that you said it.
[20:09] <+Sardaukar> he didnt introduce otherchannery YOU DID
[20:09] <+Cryptodira> You admitted to it in THIS channel.  Or are you denying that now?
[20:10] <@[e]> ill ask again keep other channel drama out of here please
[20:10] <@[e]> thanks
[20:10] <+Cryptodira> [e]  I will.  Are you now denying what you said in THIS channel?
[20:11] <+Cryptodira> I think Fundamenta|ist was present for that too.
[20:11] * [e] sets mode: +b *!*@67.212.246.36
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