Mavrixio - Today at 10:37 AM
So what is the plan for the "support of the 1.69 support" ?
Liareth - Today at 10:40 AM
Niv summed up the official stance here:
https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/66979/essential-feature-either-ee-able-to-connect-to-1-69-servers-or-1-69-able-to-connect-to-ee-servers#latest
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Essential Feature: EITHER EE able to connect to 1.69 servers OR 1.69 able to connect to EE servers
Hey guys, a bunch of us still playing NWN 1.69 are of the consensus that this issue is an essential one.
And on a more specific note for Sinfar, allowing 1.74 clients to connect to the 1.69 server would mean no SinfarX for those 1.74 clients - resulting in a much degraded experience. I don't know if would even be desirable.
I think the best option for everyone, is if you give us a list of all the stuff that's essential - and then we can prioritise it and get it into the base game.
(anything client-side that is)
Mavrixio - Today at 10:42 AM
...
This is absurd :stuck_out_tongue:
Liareth - Today at 10:51 AM
It's definitely going to be a difficult transition for Sinfar, because of how much reliance you have on client code.
But if you work with us, we can help you get up and running!
Mavrixio - Today at 10:54 AM
SinfarX is not  a big deal and yes, I am totally willing to  help you get its features in the new client
but for the server side, its a big deal and most of it is specific to Sinfar
"purely from a developer standpoint, this is not feasible.", You can tell that to someone that know nothing about deving, But having made SinfarX compatible for many version, and already made Sinfar server partially compatible with it... I know its **.

So this is a pur afirmation that you dont want to support us / want to force us to upgrade / buy the game, let's not start a war between 1.69 and EE ? I want to push Sinfar players to get EE and promote it, but without that support it will have to wait for a while for me to port its features, meanwhile new players will miss Sinfar features and drop the game. I just need small details to make that nwnx plugin and I will make it open source for other 1.69 servers that can't upgrade immediately?
Note, there's no need to change anything in the EE protol, it will be the 1.69 nwnx plugin that will do what is needed to support NWN:EE clients
Liareth - Today at 11:13 AM
It's something that's outside of my hands and niv's - it's a decision from higher up. I definitely understand your perspective and we don't want a 'war' between 1.69 and EE at all.
And we're absolutely open to helping you out so you can migrate everything as quickly as possible - by providing help and porting client/server features to the base game.
Mavrixio - Today at 11:17 AM
ok... I will have to reach higher then
I dont think you can update all my nwnx code for Sinfar :stuck_out_tongue: you should focus on the server for everyone
Liareth - Today at 11:19 AM
We definitely can't get everything. You have an extremely elaborate server :smiley:
But if you can tell me everything you've got going on the client, I can get those into the base game.
Mavrixio - Today at 11:21 AM
sure
Anytime your free I can guide you to what SinfarX does
well I wil end you the code
but first really, I want to solve that server issue
Liareth - Today at 11:24 AM
Which server issue, the compatibility with 1.69? Like I said, there's nothing I can do about that. It's a decision from higher up.
And sure, if you'd like to send me the code, I can have a look over it this weekend and see what's feasible to port.
Mavrixio - Today at 11:25 AM
I understand, I wll have to go higher up, any tip who to reach?
Liareth - Today at 11:29 AM
I'll ask around and get back to you later this evening. However, I wouldn't get your hopes up. Sinfar is a great server and with many players - you know I've played there in the past and even started writing a launcher for you a few years ago. But business decisions  aren't made for one server. I'm sure the decision has been made for good reasons and it's unlikely to be reversed for Sinfar's sake.
Mavrixio - Today at 11:30 AM
thanks