ven

Tathamet: Hey
Ven: Hey
Ven: I will let you know when I'm gna be on Divinity
Tathamet: Yeah idk mate
Tathamet: Rhydee and rihn might put up with the constant "We'll play then" and then nothing but silence, but i don't
Tathamet: Either you set up a time and hold to it, or don't bother
Ven: Alright then
Ven: Well
Ven: I haven't set up a time with you in the first place
Ven: So you have no right to talk to me like that in any manner
Ven: I haven't said
Tathamet: Yeah okay buddy
Ven: yes
Ven: let's play today
Ven: have I?
Tathamet: not like i'm one of the people who has to make time
Tathamet: just to get on and see more bullshit stories
Tathamet: I really don't give a shit if you don't want to play, at all
Ven: I mean, at no point did I ever say I will play again at some point
Tathamet: but if you drag me into this, it becomes my issue
Ven: I said to Rihn and Rhydee, I can play on weekends and fridays mostly
Tathamet: so whether or not you like it, you DID set a time with me
Ven: If they didn't convey that to you then that's not my issue
Tathamet: Weren't you the one who said yesterday "i'll play after league, depends how long YOU guys are on"?
Tathamet: well we were all here, until 4 am
Tathamet: but nothing but radio silence from you huh?
Ven: I never said I would play after League at all
Ven: All I said was depends what time you guys were going to be up
Tathamet: Then what does that message even mean?
Tathamet: Seriously, are we speaking another language or something?
Ven: This is why I didn't want to start this kind of thing in the first place, Rihn and Rhydee seem pretty chill about it all and they'll play whenever but when it becomes like this and a schedule I'm not about that at all
Ven: I wanted a chill session not set times and random people like you spamming me on steam lmfao
Tathamet: Yeah rhydee and rihn seem pretty chill because they always have time
Tathamet: i do not
Ven: Well I literally know nothing about you
Ven: How was I supposed to know you have a schedule or whatever
Tathamet: Do you need to know me to make time?
Ven: I need to know you to know that you can only play at certain times, yes..
Tathamet: Nah mate
Tathamet: you misunderstand
Tathamet: i can play whenever i want, i just need to clear my schedule
Ven: I work in the week too Mon-Fri bthat's why I said to Rihn and Rhydee - Fri/Sat/Sun are the best days for me
Tathamet: But i don't feel like clearing my schedule for something we need 4 people for and only  3 show up in the end.
Ven: but mostly Fri/Sat because I have work to do for the week on Sun
Tathamet: I don't feel like hearing rihn say "he says he's coming on later tonight" and two days later he still doesn't know anything
Ven: The time that we set aside, Saturday, I was there for - any point after that there was no set time or whatever I already said to Rhydee and Rihn in the discord it is /unlikely/ I can play on the Sunday since I have work to do but I will let you know
Ven: Well that's Rihn's fault
Ven: For miscontruing information
Ven: Not mine
Tathamet: Nah mate you weren't there for that
Ven: I can literally show you the chat log
Tathamet: we had set 2pm
Tathamet: that got changed to 3pm
Ven: Yes, and I was there, because Rhydee wasn't home yet
Tathamet: and in the end, we started at 4:30
Ven: ??
Ven: That's literally because of Rhydee
Ven: I was there at 2pm
Ven: On our raid discord
Ven: And Rhydee said to us
Tathamet: Really, because i was in teamspeak starting 2 pm
Ven: I won't be home yet
Ven: So don't bull shit me lmao
Tathamet: rihn was in teamspeak at 2pm
Tathamet: you weren't there
Ven: ...
Ven: Because Rhydee wasn't there
Tathamet: and rhydee explained why he wasn't.
Ven: Hello?
Tathamet: Yeah and?
Ven: I didn't come on Teamspeak
Ven: because
Ven: Rhydee
Ven: wasn't
Ven: there
Ven: so we couldn't start
Ven: lmfao
Tathamet: so you need rhydee to come on teamspeak?
Ven: ????????????????????
Ven: So I have to come on Teamspeak too?
Tathamet: I don't see why not
Ven: I'm only comin on Teamspeak when we start playing
Ven: Jesus
Tathamet: and why is that?
Ven: Because funnily enough I have other people to talk to??
Tathamet: See that's the whole issue with this
Tathamet: you can't make them because you don't want to. I literally couldn't give less of a shit that you have a shit personality and treat people like disposable tissues, but i despise the fact that you keep saying on thing to rihn or rhydee and then not coming through on what you said
Tathamet: Is it that hard to just admit you don't want to do this playthrough?
Ven: I have nothing else to say to you, I really don't know who you think you are but I really don't have to sit here and listen to this from someone who clearly takes this game a bit too seriously. I said to Rihn and Rhydee so many times that if I play it won't be frequently and mostly fri and saturdays and I won't be able to dedicate as much time as they would like me to to this playthrough
Ven: Depiste that, they still said come and play
Ven: so I did
Ven: what this sounds like is a complete miscommunication issue
Tathamet: I wonder why it's a miscommunication issue, huh
Tathamet: I talked to you yesterday, and even that was enough to see the kind of person you are
Ven: Maybe because I literally didn't know who you even were before they started this up
Tathamet: you respond only when you feel like it
Ven: Sorry do I owe you an IM the moment you send me it?
Tathamet: when someone asks you something you act vaguely and just completely stop responding when you can't be bothered
Ven: Who do you even think you are? lmao
Tathamet: Nah it's fine
Tathamet: i know it's hard
Tathamet: someone actually being honest to your face
Ven: I really don't know what Rhydee and Rihn see in you because you are an extremely arrogant person who needs to grow up and get a life I think
Tathamet: Yeah of course
Tathamet: I'm not going to start throwing baseless insults around
Tathamet: Everything i said, is from what i've seen and heard from you. Not some misguided attempt at a stab at you. It's just who you are, learn to own up to that.
Tathamet: You enjoy playing with your real life friends more, that's fine. But if you can't be honest to other people just because you don't see them daily, that's your fault.
Tathamet: Not mine
Tathamet: Not mine nor my extremely arrogant juvenile nature.
Tathamet: Either way, thanks for letting me know that our playthrough is off :) glad we got that sorted.
Ven: I'm unblocking you since I want Rihn and Rhydie to have a copy of this conversation since I don't want this misunderstanding between you and I to affect the relationship I have with those guys since despite what you may or may not have judged out of the 2 hours of knowing me I do actually value their friendship
Tathamet: Sure thing kiddo, you do you
Tathamet: They know me well enough to knew how this would turn out
Ven: Don't you think insulting people is a bit childish in itself?
Ven: And yes, I did make it perfectly clear about my availability
Ven: But I do not know why they didn't convey that to you
Tathamet: " you are an extremely arrogant person who needs to grow up and get a life I think
"
Tathamet: just going to leave that there
Tathamet: takes one to know one, huh?
Ven: I can go and copy previous messages from you that illicited that kind of response from me lmao
Tathamet: I am who i am, at least i own up to it
Ven: I honestly don't know how you can get so worked up over this
Tathamet: because you waste my time
Tathamet: and if there's one thing i do NOT like it's that
Ven: So what was your assumption before starting the playthrough? That I would be available every and any time you wanted?
Tathamet: Nope
Tathamet: I assumed a big boy manager like yourself would know how to set dates and keep to appointments
Tathamet: sadly, an error in judgment on my part, i suppose.
Ven: Why can't you speak without being sarcastic? Is it difficult to talk in a normal manner?
Ven: But with your point,
Ven: The date or 'appointment' that was set, I was there for, there was no other times set that I did not make
Ven: So I really don't understand what you mean
Ven: Apart from the message where I was like
Ven: "depends what time you will be up"
Ven: Which yes does imply I will be free to play later on
Tathamet: Yeah let's just stop
Tathamet: this is going nowhere
Ven: Lmao yea of course, so the moment I actually try to break it down and explain you want to stop
Tathamet: you think you did nothing wrong, even though you can clearly see i don't give a shit about the bullshit you are trying to spin off as truth
Tathamet: You try to break what down?
Ven: Your issues
Ven: You say I can't make appointments
Ven: The one that we made
Ven: I was there for
Tathamet: What you are trying to do is spin everything so you come out looking like a good kid
Ven: Any other issue?
Tathamet: while you are clearly just saying what you think people want to hear
Ven: Nah I'm just trying to explain it to you
Ven: Are you dim?
Tathamet: Yeah i'm dim
Tathamet: let's stick to that
Ven: No I'm trying to sort it you
Ven: But you're not having it
Tathamet: I'm the one who says shit and then goes silent because i'm too scared to just say "wasn't feeling like it"
Ven: Funnily enough I'm actually being 100% truthful
Ven: Yeah I wasn't feeling like it
Ven: Last night
Ven: I 100% wasn't
Ven: I was playing League with my friends until like
Ven: 3am
Tathamet: *clap clap clap*
Tathamet: i'm proud of you buddy, making progress there
Ven: But that wasn't an appointment we missed was it because we never set a time
Tathamet: see
Tathamet: that's why i do not like you as a person
Tathamet: saying "it depends on how long you guys will be on" in my head, and apparently in the heads of rhydee and rihn as well, means that you might come and play
Tathamet: which would mean you would logically say something if you are or aren't
Tathamet: but instead, you say shit like that
Tathamet: and you don't follow up
Ven: Yeah it did mean that
Tathamet: leaving everyone to wonder what happened to the silent kid
Ven: yeah that's my bad for not saying anything
Ven: I just came off
Tathamet: That's always easy huh
Tathamet: saying "yeah my bad, should've done this or done that"
Tathamet: how about you just do this
Ven: It wasn't that I was scared to message you and say sorry I was playing League I can't play now
Ven: I literally just forgot to message you back
Ven: So yea it is my fault for not saying anything
Ven: and I apologise for that
Tathamet: I don't need your apology
Tathamet: you did it to me once
Tathamet: the last few months, you did it to rihn multiple times, and you can say you didn't but i've seen the conversations, so don't bother
Tathamet: all i did yesterday was test what kind of shit i had to deal with
Tathamet: and all you did was show me rihn wasn't lying
Ven: Yeah I have because Rihn and I had another conversation about it
Ven: I shouldn't have said yes to starting the playthrough in the first place because I only have limited free time on my pc and to be completely honest I do always put playing with my irl friends above playing with other people and that's why I said to Rihn and Rhydee about my availability/dedication to this - so I'm put in a position where I don't want to let those guys down because we've been saying about starting a dos2 playthrough for months now
Ven: But yeah you are right I should have just not wasted their time with it since yes I do want todo a playthrough but I'm never going to be able to put it above other things or make time
Tathamet: See
Tathamet: i can appreciate that
Tathamet: NOW
Tathamet: you are being honest
Ven: I'll explain to Rihn and Rhydee
Tathamet: Thank you
Ven: And sorry for wasting your time in the first place
Tathamet: You need to understand, we can always make time. I work from home and can clear my schedule easily. Rihn and rhydee are as far as i'm aware wide open most times. If you are not, that's how it is. But you need to communicate it better
Ven: Okay so I work Mon-Fri 9 - 5:30 so all other times I am usually at home and on my pc - the issue is it would be difficult for me to dedicate as much time as you guys would like to it from my side of things, since I spend a LOT of my time with my other mates it's just how it is, if we properly actually scheduled it through like how rihn rhydee and I used to do when we raided it would be a lot better for me since I can also say to my mates that yea I'm not available at x time until x time
Ven: Spontaneous sessions don't really work
Ven: form e
Ven: for me*
Tathamet: no one expected that
Tathamet: certainly not me
Tathamet: I was aware of your situation, all i wanted was clear communication
Tathamet: not this "i might be on, i might not be on"
Ven: I will be honest, the issue is when those guys ask me
Ven: If I will want to play
Ven: I find it really hard to say no because I don't want to 'let them down'? I guess, I've been like it before I just find it really difficult to be clear about that but I know that it's just not the right thing to do
Ven: Especially when I don't even respond back
Tathamet: Yeah i get that
Tathamet: I have the same issue a lot
Tathamet: a lot of people ask me to play league or pubg regularly, then you have to like "pick n choose" who you want to play with
Tathamet: and it sounds rude, but you just have to choose and tell everyone involved. In the end, they'll appreciate being told off more than being told "maybe"
Tathamet: I used to just say yes to everything too, and then calling it off last minute for some reason or another to make it sound less bad
Tathamet: but it just never plays out like you think it would
Tathamet: and in the end, people just get annoyed
Ven: Yes I do that with most things in life, even at work when people ask me if I am coming out on a friday night after work I will say yes and then on friday say something has come up
Ven: It is a really bnad habit
Ven: bad*
Ven: but I have done it for years
Ven: Regardless, I will be clear with Rihn and Rhydee about this
Tathamet: That's all good, in the end, i am only annoyed because i can hear the disappointment in rihn's voice when you tell him stuff like that and it doesn't go through
Ven: And if you still want to play, if we can somehow set some 'set' times or days that would be preferable for me
Ven: I mean that method
Tathamet: and rihn ends up going to his usual "i just don't give a shit anymore" attitude, but i know he cares
Ven: would be preferable**
Ven: Yeah
Ven: I know what you mean
Tathamet: That's up to you, if you still want to play, we can always play. Just be clear when you can and if you can't, just tell us you can't;
Tathamet: It's all good with us
Ven: I think it would also help if we just set up a conversation in discord with all of us 4 so there is no miscommunication from now on
Tathamet: Perfect
Tathamet: And hey, i'd understand if you don't want to play with me anymore. That's fine with me, I know my direct nature can be very off putting.
Ven: No it's fine I am not used to people being honest with me like that to be honest and i haven't had anyone sort of call me out like that for anything before even when I know I should be reprimanded for my behaviour
Ven: So I think it was a good thing
Ven: I'm not like Rihn and Rhydee really I would like to think I am a nice guy still but I'm not as 'warm' as those guys I don't think so I do apologise if we have gotten off on the wrong foot here
Ven: And to explain about the teamspeak thing, I am almost always on my server with my irl friends when I am on my pc so I will only ever come off of it when we actually start the game or if you need to talk to me about something
Ven: But if I'm just chilling or not doing anything
Ven: I'll always hang out in my irl discord
Ven: Just for context from what you said earlier ^
Ven: But if we needed to talk about dos2 or anything then yea I would come on you just need to ask me
Ven: Hope that's a bit clearer now as to what I meant earlier
Tathamet: That's why i said i didn't understand, as rihn told me he asked you to come on so we could discuss mods
Tathamet: Either way, water under the bridge for me
Tathamet: And just to be clear, i don't hold it against you that you'd rather play with your friends either. First of, as you said, you don't know me, and i'm sure you don't know rhydee and rihn as well as any of your real life friends.
Tathamet: I could tell by the fact you weren't saying much when we were playing.
Tathamet: So it's only natural you'd have more fun playing with your friends, as i'm sure you have a bond that makes it much more enjoyable to play with them.
Ven: That's true, but it's not to say I didn't enjoy playing either, it takes me a bit to talk a bit more it's the same when I started raiding with Rihn and Rhydee I was quiet at first but after a bit I will talk a bit more - as you said I wasn't really sure who you were or what you were going to be like ither
Ven: I also don't know as much as yo uguys about dos2 so I was a bit embarassed asking about things I didn't know
Ven: lol
Tathamet: I know, it's only natural. When i first started playing with rihn it was the same thing.
Tathamet: I assumed that was also a factor when we played
Ven: Rihn was scary when I first met him lool
Tathamet: me rhydee and rihn know the game by heart now, considering we played it so much.
Tathamet: That's why we wanted to add a lot of mods, so we all have to find out some new stuff about the game. to kind of "even it out", if you know what i mean.
Tathamet: Why the hell was rihn scary?
Tathamet: xD
Ven: Because I was trialing for their group I was joining as caster and Rihn was that groups' caster before and he swapped to healer so I felt under pressure to do as well/better than him
Ven: he also sounded scary
Ven: idk
Ven: lmao
Ven: I'm not sure when Rihn and Rhydee are going to be online
Ven: but when they are we can maybe sort out some times for the next couple of weeks
Ven: Best time for me is Saturday early afternoon, is that good for you?
Tathamet: Let's set up that discord thing first and do it when everyone is on
Tathamet: I'll have to check whether i can do saturday, because i might have a pathfinder session (although those guys tend to give a lot of excuses too, reeeeeeeeeee)
Tathamet: but as far as i know, rihn will be on soon and rhydee should be on around 6-7pm i think
Tathamet: he had to do something today
Tathamet: Also, the rihn experience was different for me because i met him in real life first
Tathamet: and he doesn't look scary at all xD
Ven: Ahh okay lmao, I've seen a pic of Rihn in sunglasses I think that's it xD but yea, after this game I'm in I'll set a conversation up
Tathamet: the thing is, when rihn starts speaking portugueuse (of which i'm still sure that he is actually speaking russian) he sounds really angry all the time
Tathamet: also, if you want to get under rihn's skin, just mention that he sounds like a russian when he starts speaking his language. Gets him riled up every time ^^
Ven: ahah will do I will remember that, (sry was in game) also I can't make a group conv yet on discord since I'm not friends with Rihn on discord :c