[friend b] Monday at 9:00 PM
practicum supervisor asking me "what supervision style works best for you?" and i'm like "well all i can really tell you is 'not steve' but i've only HAD steve so i don't really know what to tell you"
i don't even know how to respond to this lmao
"i like it when you don't come up with wild-ass theories based on tiny details about people's lives"
"i like it when you're consistent and don't tell me to do a thing and then when i do the thing turn around like 'why did you do that thing'"
similarly for "how do you learn best"
i don't know lmao

[friend d] Monday at 9:10 PM
interpretive dance

[friend b] Monday at 9:10 PM
well it's not that

[friend d] Monday at 9:10 PM
boo

[friend j] at 3:07 AM
wow I had a bad steve supevisor too high five

[friend b] at 2:09 PM
steves are universally bad supervisors we have 2 data points now it’s fact
today he tried to tell me a client is “clearly aspie” despite me saying i get no autism vibes and the “weird” social stuff is probably in regards to figuring out gender identity and social expectations therein
but because this person “has no sense of identity” that JUMPS OUT to steve as obviously autistic
even tho that’s like, not an autism symptom and i don’t think there’s any research saying identity issues are more common in autism
and even if there is steve sure as shit wouldn’t know about it cause he’s not the AUTISM SPECIALIST

[friend j] at 5:11 AM
jfc
is ntsplaining a thing?
((deleted - plz don't contact him. Please)
(ps don't contact him. I don't think I really need to say that in this room but still)

[friend e] at 5:16 AM
I read the first paragraph, before the bullet points
And decides i liked my brain cells too much to keep reading

[friend j] at 5:22 AM
Steve's other party trick was telling me I was going to fail my master's defence 2 days before I had to do it
ANYWAYS steves are the worst and also demonstrably wrong 100% of the time so
client is not "clearly aspie" steve get your head out of your ass and don't even say stuff like that GAWD
but lso elfe you are good and kind to your own brains

[friend e] at 5:37 AM
Not usually
But i decided to give them a break for once

[friend j] at 5:49 AM
they deserve it :heart:

[friend e] at 5:50 AM
Thanku

[friend b] at 9:52 AM
godddd i had the same response as elfe
what the FUCK is wrong with steves

[friend s] at 9:54 AM
-pops in here real quick- a few bad encounters with someone/several people doesnt give you the right to judge them all

[friend e] at 9:54 AM
Sil noone is ACTUALLY judging steves as a whole

[friend s] at 9:55 AM
It's purely based upon nothing more than coincidence, and its be like me saying I dont like anyone with the name dora or sid when in fact, I met people on both sides.
I get that it's in a joking context

[friend e] at 9:55 AM
I mean I know a decent Academia Steve and still find this kinda funny

[friend s] at 9:55 AM
When it's gone on for what is it, 3 days?? Its starting to grate on me

[friend e] at 9:56 AM
Fair enough ig

[friend b] at 9:56 AM
it’s gone on for a total of maybe 15 minutes
it’s just that none of us are on at the same time so it happens over a long period of time
also, it’s been less than 24 hours?

[friend s] at 9:57 AM
I reread a bit. My mistake
Still
It's not okay

[friend b] at 9:58 AM
okay well we can disagree on that, it’s a common thing to joke about coincidences = rule when of course everyone knows that’s not ACTUALLY the case

[friend s] at 9:58 AM
As I stated above

[friend b] at 9:59 AM
i can also GUARANTEE for you that steve would find this hilarious
my steve at least idk about jacq’s

[friend s] at 9:59 AM
Funny
When I showed mine he gave me a look and asked 'and these are some of your friends?' Shook his head and walked away

[friend b] at 10:00 AM
that’s cause it’s not about him
it’s clearly about our two steve’s and making a joke about the coincidence

[friend s] at 10:00 AM
It damn well could be. That's the point I'm making.
If you wanna defend it, fine
ill be on my way out.

[friend e] at 10:01 AM
Why did you even ... show it to him... if you find the idea so upsetting

[friend b] at 10:01 AM
i’m also gonna point out that showing a conversation on a private discord to people we don’t know is way more uncool than making a joke about a coincidence

[friend s] at 10:02 AM
Nothings private when it's on the internet baek.
Youd do well to remember it

[friend e] at 10:02 AM
.... wow
Thats... well, yeah. But like... theres still a delination between smthg like a facebook wall and a conversation between friends?

[friend b] at 10:04 AM
sure, nothing is private i say to friends irl either but generally there’s an expectation that you’re not gonna be a dick about it

[friend s] at 10:04 AM
Tying is I'm not being a dick about it
I made a statement you dont agree with
That's all this is

[friend b] at 10:04 AM
the sharing, not the statement, sil

[friend s] at 10:04 AM
I stand by my words
We live together
So yea, at some point it's going to happen regardless
If you're not happy with it then maybe dont talk about things you wouldnt want someone else knowing
Who's to say someone else here hasnt ever taken s screenshots and sent them off somewhere else?

[friend e] at 10:06 AM
So essentially youre saying "If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about"?

[friend b] at 10:06 AM
i’m perfectly aware that’s possible and keep that in mind
doesn’t mean i can’t be mad if someone dose it

[friend s] at 10:06 AM
Theres no excuse for being a shitty person in any context
If you both think I'm being a shitty person that's okay

[friend b] at 10:07 AM
correct, like intentionally sharing a friend’s conversation out of context to win points in an argument
regardless of whether or not “everything in the internet is public”

[friend s] at 10:07 AM
And I think you're being shitty dragging down a name regardless of the context :)
So I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree

[friend e] at 10:07 AM
Noone was ACTUALLY dragging the name tho.

[friend s] at 10:08 AM
I've gotta go. That little thing called work, yknow?

[friend b] at 10:08 AM
literally the whole point was joking about the coincidence, not the actual name
but you’re right, i also have work, with a supervisor who has my same name, and which i’ve heard jokes about people with that name and literally don’t care because literally everyone knows it’s not about that

[friend j] at 2:47 PM
I feel badly for being the reason this whole thing happened but
And I think you're being shitty dragging down a name regardless of the context :)
(I deleted a bit here that was irrelevant and flippant)
There are totally contexts where it's applicable to make fun of someone's name. Maybe "making fun of the name Steve because a dude called that tried very hard to ruin my life" isn't it, but literally nothing is X or Y "regardless of context"
I appreciate that you're upset I was making fun of someone and using their name as a proxy to the joke, but the "context" you're saying doesn't matter is my (and baek's) real life. Like I'm not allowed to make fun of a dude who literally cost me thousands of dollars because he deliberately sat on paperwork past a deadline, who made me think I'd never go back into academia, who made me think I was too brain-damaged to succeed, who blackmailed me to the point he lost tenure when I went above his head, and who tried (and still tries!) to sabotage my professional relationships by emailing people I work with.
But I can't make fun of his name in a tiny internet chat room as a bit of a joke? It's taken like, 3-4 years for me to be at the point where I can joke about this instead of crying.
I'm gonna go delete that link above though, because this can be taken as kind of an oblique threat;
Who's to say someone else here hasn't ever taken s screenshots and sent them off somewhere else?
Please don't contact him.

[friend j] at 3:07 PM
Also ftr I literally do not give a shit if some random person named Steve is going to be so judgey and context-blind that they're gonna look at something like "ANYWAYS steves are the worst and also demonstrably wrong 100% of the time so" and decide I'm being completely serious and deserving of disgust. That's not an appropriate reaction, imo.

[friend s] at 4:34 PM
I had no intention of contacting him. Also I just love how if there was any other topic that has been asked to stop/be dropped in the past it wasnt an issue, and yet this time when I initially asked semi-politely that it be dropped I get attacked? Sorry i guess, for raising the point that 'hey this makes me uncomfortable, can we move on?' When it's never been an issue before. But hey, I guess I'm in the wrong here for having feelings that I'd usually just bite my tongue on and not mention because hey, it's the internet. Why get emotionally invested in anyone I dont actually know. So again, my bad for having opinions and emotions that have been deemed entirely invalid

[friend b] at 4:40 PM
you didn't say "this makes me uncomfortable can we move on" you said it's "this is not okay, you don't have the right to do this, and you're a shitty person for doing it." it's perfectly fine for it to make you uncomfortable, and i'd be happy to not do it in front of you, but i don't agree that making a joke about "we have 2 data points must be a rule that steves are like this!!" is anything like what you're saying, because literally the entire joke is that we're drawing erroneous conclusions based on 2 data points

[friend e] at 4:41 PM
The only other thing thats been dropped here is the "dont say anyone, particularily not my family, should/needs to die" and theres... a bit of a difference lets be real. By the time you outright asked wed also already gone WAY past polite, youd violated (expected) privacy in order to upset someone you claim to care about for argument points and gotten exceedingly passive agressive about all of it, while also talking down at all or most other parties involved.

[friend b] at 4:41 PM
the joke is of course not all steves are like that, because it's only 2 data points. jacq and i are both scientists, this is the kind of thing we're extremely aware of, and hence we use it as a joke to vent about people who have been shitty to us
i made this joke specifically in my channel, that is heavily about my experiences as a scientist (hence the name paranormal distribution), not in the broader general chat, in the middle of a conversation with someone else who would exactly get the context and know that i'm joking about stats, not about steves
okay so just realizing that maybe this is where the breakdown occurred, it was A JOKE ABOUT STATS, you can't use 2 data points to describe the population, that was the whole reason why it was funny
it wasn't funny because of anything about steves, we were making fun of the fact that people will draw conclusions based on limited datasets