01[22:46] <Scizor300> lol i've actually gone through three versions of kathy
[22:46] <cathy> lol
[22:46] <cathy> pics?
01[22:46] <Scizor300> i can never get it to look right and everything turns out as a shitty sketch
01[22:47] <Scizor300> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33682201/art/kathysample.png
01[22:47] <Scizor300> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33682201/art/kathysamplev2.png
01[22:47] <Scizor300> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33682201/art/kathysamplev3-sketch.png
[22:47] <cathy> lol
[22:48] <cathy> 2 looks good
01[22:48] <Scizor300> yeah but i need to get the face more in-line with the sciz artwork i've done
01[22:48] <Scizor300> with the cartoony eyes
01[22:48] <Scizor300> like in v3
[22:48] <cathy> i dunno
[22:48] <cathy> generic anime graphics are fine too
01[22:49] <Scizor300> is the clothing alright for now
[22:49] <cathy> why the weird robe stuff
01[22:50] <Scizor300> trying to fit the "mage" theme
[22:50] <cathy> lol
[22:50] <cathy> why
01[22:50] <Scizor300> well
[22:50] <cathy> i'm never magelike
[22:50] <cathy> kathy in my rpg was just a generic npc
01[22:50] <Scizor300> i've been going off the old sheet we made and kathy was supposed to be some kind of mage
[22:50] <cathy> never been dressed that way though
[22:51] <cathy> well not never
[22:51] <cathy> when kathy is like that it's usually more ornamental
01[22:51] <Scizor300> ok
[22:51] <cathy> http://7thdragon.wdfiles.com/local--files/healer/Healer3.png
01[22:51] <Scizor300> but yeah, charyb hated my design of his character and i had to pull fyrus's design out of my ass
01[22:51] <Scizor300> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33682201/art/asspull-of-the-century.png
[22:52] <cathy> idk what fyrus portrays himself as
[22:52] <cathy> usually in my rpgs fyrus is just the nerd
01[22:52] <Scizor300> i was going off of some of his oc's and the fact he was a cast (lol)gunner
[22:52] <cathy> sciz is the handsome man in black
[22:52] <cathy> lol
01[22:53] <Scizor300> i have a link to the old sheet we set up for the characters if you want to see it
[22:53] <cathy> lol okay
01[22:53] <Scizor300> i've been trying to ask charyb to get you and everyone more integrated into development but he's not really keen on it
[22:53] <cathy> development of what
01[22:53] <Scizor300> dunno why considering i'm doing the artwork
01[22:53] <Scizor300> sks
[22:53] <cathy> oh
[22:53] <cathy> that sounds like fun
01[22:54] <Scizor300> yeah but don't bring it up to charyb yet
[22:54] <cathy> i thought it was just a running gag though
01[22:54] <Scizor300> he lynched me the last time i mentioned it in the channel to you
[22:54] <cathy> lol
[22:54] <cathy> but anyways
01[22:54] <Scizor300> no, actually
[22:54] <cathy> kathy is usually really plain
01[22:54] <Scizor300> surprisingly he's been making nice progress on the backend of the game
[22:54] <cathy> and if she's the main character she has to be as plain as possible (aka mario)
01[22:54] <Scizor300> well
01[22:54] <Scizor300> it's not as much a single main character as there is a group
01[22:55] <Scizor300> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12fDKrkrSZYqNhhrGcXAZSBhwvGpX3KojUko45GpASss/edit
01[22:55] <Scizor300> the character stuff is at the bottom of it, basically what they're doing from the most basic perspective possible
01[22:55] <Scizor300> i've been going off that for the designs, for the most part
[22:56] <cathy> i dunno
[22:56] <cathy> i like sonic because he goes fast
[22:56] <cathy> if the characters can attack and go fast it'd be perfect
01[22:56] <Scizor300> yeah that's basically how we're aiming
01[22:56] <Scizor300> like rayman legends or dustforce
01[22:57] <Scizor300> but with a higher focus on balancing combat with the platforming
[22:57] <cathy> enemies should be killed fast
01[22:57] <Scizor300> yeah, we're aiming for that
[22:57] <cathy> i'm fine with ineffective enemies as long as they're fun to kill
[22:57] <cathy> pso2's enemies feel good to kill
[22:57] <cathy> the problem is the variation
01[22:57] <Scizor300> enemies for the most part will be cannon fodder that you can kill easily
01[22:58] <Scizor300> bosses and the bigger guys might take more than a hit or two though
[22:58] <cathy> of course bosses
01[22:58] <Scizor300> we haven't really touched enemy design aside from a stupid skeleton sketch i did a while back
01[22:59] <Scizor300> i'm still waiting on charyb to get the backend set up before we do any major planning
01[23:00] <Scizor300> did charyb tell you about the town system we're planning
01[23:00] <Scizor300> doubt it
[23:00] <cathy> no
01[23:00] <Scizor300> well
01[23:01] <Scizor300> basically, when you first start the game, you have a view of a single cottage, aka kathy's house
01[23:01] <Scizor300> as you progress in the game, the town grows larger and you can upgrade it in several ways
[23:01] <cathy> lol what
01[23:01] <Scizor300> and it functions as a sort of in-game hub world and menu
[23:01] <cathy> i think it should be like sonic rush adventure
01[23:01] <Scizor300> i haven't played it
[23:01] <cathy> it just grows as you progress the plot
01[23:01] <Scizor300> yeah
[23:01] <cathy> more people to talk to and stuff
[23:01] <cathy> well idk what the plot is
01[23:02] <Scizor300> well
[23:02] <cathy> if you're collecting the seven chaos emeralds for instance each one can power up the landscape or something
01[23:02] <Scizor300> plot will probably be some shitty barebones thing that's slapped in to give an excuse for the game
[23:03] <cathy> i dunno how to tie an upgrading house to a plot though
[23:03] <cathy> it's not like an island you colonize
[23:03] <cathy> i don't see any need for it really
[23:03] <cathy> i usually don't like hub worlds because they make going from place to place annoying
01[23:03] <Scizor300> we'll probably make up a reasoning for it as we go
01[23:03] <Scizor300> well
[23:03] <cathy> disgaea's is just a room with people who function as menus
01[23:03] <Scizor300> i think there's going to actually be an overworld map or something
01[23:04] <Scizor300> charyb and i discussed it and i don't remember much from it
01[23:04] <Scizor300> but i know that the loading screen is going to look like the smw overworld map with the characters navigating to their target point
[23:05] <cathy> it needs coop or 0/10
01[23:05] <Scizor300> yes
01[23:06] <Scizor300> but yeah
01[23:06] <Scizor300> i'd really appreciate it if you didn't tell charyb about it
[23:06] <cathy> i wouldn't
01[23:06] <Scizor300> he'd get super pissed at me because, along with him still being mad at you, he doesn't think you'd take it seriously until we have something like a playable tech demo
[23:07] <cathy> i'd take it seriously
[23:07] <cathy> the only problem is that it was a joke in the first place
[23:07] <cathy> like
[23:07] <cathy> when i brought it up it was just a recurring gag from smbx where i nagged redigit to make it
01[23:07] <Scizor300> you didn't actually realize charyb followed through with the idea?
[23:08] <cathy> he never mentioned it
01[23:08] <Scizor300> i think i was the only one that mentioned it to you
01[23:08] <Scizor300> when we were starting out on it