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  1. 6:27 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Tails, would you be interested in making ram room an actual community?
  2. 6:27 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: x-wig alliance
  3. 6:27 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: x-wing
  4. 6:28 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: no tox
  5. 6:28 AM - комиссар вомбат: Крошка Моя.
  6. 6:28 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: it will not and will never work
  7. 6:28 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: to do that we would have to change the name and the entire inner workings
  8. 6:28 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: no problem.
  9. 6:28 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: it would be simpler and much better to just start from scratch
  10. 6:28 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: .
  11. 6:29 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i thought so too actually.. never knew you would take the same ida.
  12. 6:29 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ._.
  13. 6:29 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: well then!
  14. 6:29 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: there are people who wouldnt even want to step foot in anything to do with ramroom
  15. 6:29 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: like john or reaper
  16. 6:29 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: or goober
  17. 6:29 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that's fine..
  18. 6:29 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: let them do what they want to do.
  19. 6:29 AM - Dark Tails: K
  20. 6:29 AM - Dark Tails: SO
  21. 6:29 AM - комиссар вомбат: моргала выколю, падла.
  22. 6:29 AM - Dark Tails: found out
  23. 6:29 AM - Dark Tails: im in a bandit camp
  24. 6:29 AM - Dark Tails: said hi to the locals
  25. 6:29 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: eventually when they realize that they don't have a room to goto to convearsati with peopel.
  26. 6:29 AM - комиссар вомбат: http://www.youswear.com/?language=Russian
  27. 6:29 AM - Dark Tails: all 15 of them
  28. 6:30 AM - Dark Tails: at once
  29. 6:30 AM - комиссар вомбат: No tox you don't understand.
  30. 6:30 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: they'll either find some way to do so. or join us again
  31. 6:30 AM - комиссар вомбат: They won't ever join us ever again.
  32. 6:30 AM - комиссар вомбат: They left for a reason.
  33. 6:30 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: so nodnuke..
  34. 6:30 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i'd love to be able to play with john, goober, and smallchange again
  35. 6:30 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and other people like nodnuke
  36. 6:30 AM - комиссар вомбат: I am not Nodnuke.
  37. 6:30 AM - комиссар вомбат: I am Guard.
  38. 6:30 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that leaves us
  39. 6:30 AM - комиссар вомбат: No.
  40. 6:30 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: will not return to us
  41. 6:30 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ever again?
  42. 6:30 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that poco
  43. 6:30 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: cody..
  44. 6:30 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: you.
  45. 6:30 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: me.
  46. 6:30 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: soof.
  47. 6:30 AM - комиссар вомбат: They didn't leave because of Nodnuke.
  48. 6:30 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and the people who hate ram
  49. 6:30 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: won't come back
  50. 6:30 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: to a new community?
  51. 6:31 AM - комиссар вомбат: What are you even saying?
  52. 6:31 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: is that what your implying guard55?
  53. 6:31 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: or are you just being a shithead not understanding what im trying to say?
  54. 6:31 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: cuz idk why you brought goober or john into this
  55. 6:31 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: but fuck those too.
  56. 6:31 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: their long gone..
  57. 6:31 AM - комиссар вомбат: I'm stating that Reaper and John and goober will never come back.
  58. 6:31 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and i lost my respects to them both.
  59. 6:31 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: there would be a greater chance for those individuals to join/play in a community that has no connections to this group
  60. 6:31 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: So idk what the fuck your talking about guard55.
  61. 6:31 AM - комиссар вомбат: I didn't bring Goober or John into this. Somebody else mentioned them.
  62. 6:31 AM - комиссар вомбат: I'm talking about the fucking fact that they will never return.
  63. 6:31 AM - комиссар вомбат: Okay?
  64. 6:31 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: but i sugest we start a new community.
  65. 6:32 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: idk why you even brougt goober,john and reaper in the first place.
  66. 6:32 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: How are they reelevent to this conversation?
  67. 6:32 AM - комиссар вомбат: I didn't, somebody else mentioned them.
  68. 6:32 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i brought them into it
  69. 6:32 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ..
  70. 6:32 AM - комиссар вомбат: Toxic, calm yourself.
  71. 6:32 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: they were examples
  72. 6:32 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: I brougth them in.
  73. 6:32 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: .
  74. 6:32 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Oh i see.
  75. 6:32 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: you assume that once a new community is built
  76. 6:32 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that we'll lose a few members?
  77. 6:33 AM - комиссар вомбат: No.
  78. 6:33 AM - комиссар вомбат: They're already gone toxic.
  79. 6:33 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: guard do you even understand what im trying to say
  80. 6:33 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: =-=
  81. 6:33 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: this isen't about john or goober or reaper.
  82. 6:33 AM - комиссар вомбат: Are you talking about members currently here?
  83. 6:33 AM - Dark Tails: hehe dat review
  84. 6:34 AM - Dark Tails: "like skyrim with russians"
  85. 6:34 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: YEs
  86. 6:34 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: I am
  87. 6:34 AM - комиссар вомбат: Ukrainians*
  88. 6:34 AM - Dark Tails: no
  89. 6:34 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: (The male deeply stares at guard55)
  90. 6:34 AM - Dark Tails: review said russians
  91. 6:34 AM - комиссар вомбат: It takes place in Ukraine tho.
  92. 6:34 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: CAn you stop bringing them up?
  93. 6:34 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Pleaze.
  94. 6:34 AM - Dark Tails: he didnt bring them up knob
  95. 6:34 AM - комиссар вомбат: I apologise Toxic, I misunderstood what you said.
  96. 6:34 AM - Dark Tails: i know where chernobyl is
  97. 6:35 AM - Dark Tails: read the reviews and youll find it knobsickle
  98. 6:35 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: im just trying to argue with ram as to why is he afrade of losing current members
  99. 6:35 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: just because he wanted to start a brand new community.
  100. 6:35 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i never said that
  101. 6:35 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: a few members shoulden't restrict something that can go into great things.. Hell guard55 told me personally that depsite the event going on, nodnuke and some other people remained here.
  102. 6:35 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that shows something..
  103. 6:36 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: IF a new community is created, im preety sure we'll retain a good number of members.
  104. 6:36 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: ithere was actually more activity here when the event was held
  105. 6:36 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: RAM
  106. 6:36 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: OPEN UR EYES
  107. 6:36 AM - комиссар вомбат: Oh yeah, Mar what happened when I left to go to bed?
  108. 6:36 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: U HAVE 28 MEMBERS IN TOTAL
  109. 6:36 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ONLY 9 Is presented active!
  110. 6:36 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: In the group chat!
  111. 6:37 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: DOn't you get it!?!?
  112. 6:37 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and yet that one poll had 16 votes..
  113. 6:37 AM - комиссар вомбат: Oh yeah, the votes were rigged as discovered by tails and I.
  114. 6:37 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Did you send them to other people when they wern't usually active in ram room?
  115. 6:37 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Like reddy? or rose?
  116. 6:38 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: those people didnt want to vote because they werent active here enough to vote
  117. 6:38 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: as what they stated
  118. 6:38 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: good...
  119. 6:38 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: to be honest ram.. i don't think the vote is consistant.
  120. 6:38 AM - комиссар вомбат: ?
  121. 6:38 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: yes
  122. 6:38 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: future polls will be held on the forums
  123. 6:38 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: you have a blend of veteriaian members who knows each other and new members who just came in.
  124. 6:39 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: No..
  125. 6:39 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: you need to talk to veterian members.
  126. 6:39 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: those who has been in here longer.
  127. 6:39 AM - комиссар вомбат: He is right now..?
  128. 6:39 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and with polls on the forums, only registered members can vote ONCE
  129. 6:39 AM - комиссар вомбат: yup
  130. 6:39 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it's not good... if you post it on the forums then everyone will try to vote and then you;ll get inconsistant data.
  131. 6:39 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: when i mean by veterarians, i mean people like
  132. 6:39 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: cody
  133. 6:39 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: poco
  134. 6:40 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: soof.
  135. 6:40 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: me
  136. 6:40 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: guard55
  137. 6:40 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: tails.
  138. 6:40 AM - комиссар вомбат: I don't get what you mean.
  139. 6:40 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ....
  140. 6:40 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: tox
  141. 6:40 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: People who's been more active longer guard.
  142. 6:40 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: they will be for everyone to vote
  143. 6:40 AM - комиссар вомбат: Good luck with that.
  144. 6:40 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: if the people who havent been active dont want to vote
  145. 6:40 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: then they dont have to
  146. 6:40 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ..
  147. 6:40 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and you would be able to see who voted
  148. 6:40 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: so you can tally votes from just the veteran/senior members of the group
  149. 6:41 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: but ram.. in perspective it's like your putting art and noodle to vote something that they barely even understand.
  150. 6:41 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: while still seeing the votes from everyone
  151. 6:41 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: It hasen't been a year...
  152. 6:41 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and already their being put to vote?
  153. 6:41 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: That dosen't make sense..
  154. 6:41 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it's like blindly picking.
  155. 6:41 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: they have been here a lot, tox
  156. 6:41 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: out of assumption
  157. 6:41 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: active in the chatroom
  158. 6:41 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i bet they don't even know soof in and out.
  159. 6:41 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: you can't just say
  160. 6:41 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Oh their veterians
  161. 6:41 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: jsut because they been in the room for a "Long" time.
  162. 6:41 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: jade has been part of the group for years and yet doesnt even come here
  163. 6:41 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: does that mean jade is a veteran?
  164. 6:41 AM - комиссар вомбат: Toxic I'm having a hard time trying to follow your train of thought.
  165. 6:42 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ...
  166. 6:42 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: just because someone is part of the group for a long time doesnt mean they are veterans
  167. 6:42 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i consider people who are ACTIVE in the chat and socialize with everyone
  168. 6:42 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: as veteran and senior members
  169. 6:42 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: active members
  170. 6:42 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: would you go up to a retired 80 year old army general and ask him what we should do overseas?
  171. 6:42 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it's just not right to have people vote on something they assume or judge without understanding fully who their really seeing...
  172. 6:43 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: they can ask questions?
  173. 6:43 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: we can give answers?
  174. 6:43 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that's all im saying mar..
  175. 6:43 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: if they dont fully comprehend then we can clarify it
  176. 6:43 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: but if you wanan go ahead with the rest
  177. 6:43 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: give them the FULL picture
  178. 6:43 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: test
  179. 6:43 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that's fine.
  180. 6:43 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and you can't...
  181. 6:43 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: so they arent voting on half the information
  182. 6:43 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Mar... you can't do that...
  183. 6:43 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it dosen't work that way
  184. 6:43 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: really....
  185. 6:43 AM - комиссар вомбат: ???
  186. 6:43 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: ....what
  187. 6:43 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: if they know the full picture then they can vote?
  188. 6:44 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: you can;'t sume up 2-3 years of knowing a person all in one little package...
  189. 6:44 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: you can try but it needs to be an honest thing.
  190. 6:44 AM - комиссар вомбат: Okay now I'm just lost.
  191. 6:44 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: then why do we hold presidential elections?
  192. 6:44 AM - комиссар вомбат: Deja vu.
  193. 6:44 AM - комиссар вомбат: Wait you stated that before. I think. lel.
  194. 6:44 AM - комиссар вомбат: In our massive discussion that one day.
  195. 6:45 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Apperently we hold presidential election because we are forced to choose a president after a good amount of years. it's a decomoercy of captial in amercia, but we are not a capital..were just gamers trying to make things right.
  196. 6:45 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i dont even know what the topic of discussion is here anymore
  197. 6:45 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i thought we were talking about making a community
  198. 6:45 AM - комиссар вомбат: We aren't forced to.
  199. 6:45 AM - комиссар вомбат: In fact, you dont' have to vote at all.
  200. 6:46 AM - комиссар вомбат: It's not requried by law, unlike belgium.
  201. 6:46 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Apperently your upset that my ideal is to not talk to members who hasen't been here for a good year or 2.
  202. 6:46 AM - комиссар вомбат: I hear Taps playing.
  203. 6:46 AM - комиссар вомбат: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taps
  204. 6:46 AM - комиссар вомбат: It's my neighbour.
  205. 6:46 AM - комиссар вомбат: Wat.
  206. 6:46 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: if we ignore people who have been active in chat and actually know people, just to favor people who have been here longer and dont even come to the chat
  207. 6:46 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: what would we accomplish?
  208. 6:47 AM - комиссар вомбат: Nothing.
  209. 6:47 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: soof himself has stated his personality and attitude changed multiple times in the span of a few months
  210. 6:47 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: by ignore people do you mean everyone or just a good small ammount.
  211. 6:47 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: YOU want to ignore people
  212. 6:47 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i want to get people's attetion that plays a key role in this community
  213. 6:47 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: not people that just shit talks or barely know anything about our experiences.
  214. 6:47 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and those people are people who are here and know everyone in the chat
  215. 6:48 AM - комиссар вомбат: Yeh.
  216. 6:48 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: who ACTIVELY socialize
  217. 6:48 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: we cant ask jade, who hasnt been in the chat or talked with anyone for the last two years, what she thinks of arty
  218. 6:48 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: because i dont think jade ever MET arty
  219. 6:48 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: because jade is NEVER here
  220. 6:48 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: actively socializing is all fine and dandy but their not key members as of yet.
  221. 6:49 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: why not?
  222. 6:49 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Can you actuall be conforble if noodle or arty or nodnuke becoming a presidential administrator or leaders of this group and handle all the political situations, stresses, and dramaticed problems that occurs and tentions that arises?
  223. 6:49 AM - комиссар вомбат: What determines them to be key members or not is my question.
  224. 6:49 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: nuke is very active in the chat and has been part of ramroom since its inception
  225. 6:49 AM - комиссар вомбат: ^
  226. 6:50 AM - комиссар вомбат: Yeah..
  227. 6:50 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: nuke has been part since back in reddyland days
  228. 6:50 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Again....
  229. 6:50 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: ive known nuke since 2002
  230. 6:50 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Can you actuall be conforble if noodle or arty or nodnuke becoming a presidential administrator or leaders of this group and handle all the political situations, stresses, and dramaticed problems that occurs and tentions that arises?
  231. 6:50 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Espcially nodnuke with his additude?
  232. 6:50 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Or intellects?
  233. 6:50 AM - комиссар вомбат: I've known the majority of the people here for 6 years.
  234. 6:50 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: arty and nodu are capable people
  235. 6:50 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: nodu actually stated he was an admin to a community before
  236. 6:50 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: .
  237. 6:50 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and why i s nuke even part of this?
  238. 6:50 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: nuke is active and an old member
  239. 6:50 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: because nodnuke is not a key member that can make a change
  240. 6:51 AM - комиссар вомбат: Oh yes he can.
  241. 6:51 AM - комиссар вомбат: Trust me.
  242. 6:51 AM - комиссар вомбат: He's changed my mind on things before.
  243. 6:51 AM - комиссар вомбат: He may tend to go overboard on discussions, but his input is valuable as is everybody's.
  244. 6:51 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: it would be like looking down on children because they are children
  245. 6:51 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: even though they have a better grasp on situations than adults
  246. 6:51 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ... i just want a small group of the more important to perform a meeting to create a community.
  247. 6:51 AM - комиссар вомбат: Welp mar.
  248. 6:52 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: It's controlable and it's effective than bringign a giant crowd..
  249. 6:52 AM - комиссар вомбат: That deserves a cookie.
  250. 6:52 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: tox
  251. 6:52 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that's what im trying to get at ram.
  252. 6:52 AM - комиссар вомбат: Whose more important though, I don't understand.
  253. 6:52 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i DO want people who are active and socialize in this group
  254. 6:52 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and who have a good grasp on situations
  255. 6:52 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: those are the individuals i listed
  256. 6:52 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ...
  257. 6:52 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: It's whatever really
  258. 6:53 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: in reality like i said before many many times.
  259. 6:53 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: this is my ideologoly.
  260. 6:53 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and im qute certain everyone has different views on different people who are important.
  261. 6:53 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it kinda sucks.. really..
  262. 6:53 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: lightwave 1 is even more confusing than lightwave2
  263. 6:54 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: not to mention soof has a problem .
  264. 6:54 AM - комиссар вомбат: But toxic.
  265. 6:54 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: so all of the members in the room just makes it harder to close a conclusion
  266. 6:54 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and just creates tention and conflicts with one another.
  267. 6:54 AM - комиссар вомбат: If everybody has the same view, then there would be no diversity.
  268. 6:54 AM - комиссар вомбат: There would be no key important discussions.
  269. 6:54 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Tention is whay usually ruins everything.
  270. 6:54 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and not everyone can be solved..
  271. 6:54 AM - комиссар вомбат: I know that toxic.
  272. 6:55 AM - комиссар вомбат: Nobody has exactly the same view.
  273. 6:55 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: in a sense
  274. 6:55 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: the only solution i can think of is actually figuring out who is really important and capible of changing the room.
  275. 6:55 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: we arent changing the room though
  276. 6:55 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: through a voting system.
  277. 6:55 AM - комиссар вомбат: Why change the room?
  278. 6:55 AM - комиссар вомбат: We're making a separate entity.
  279. 6:55 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: we are making an entirely new community SEPARATE from ramroom
  280. 6:56 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: same thing.
  281. 6:56 AM - комиссар вомбат: Wot.
  282. 6:56 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it's a new thing
  283. 6:56 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: tox
  284. 6:56 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: though im sorry i fucked up on my words
  285. 6:56 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: you know how it is
  286. 6:56 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: x-x;
  287. 6:56 AM - комиссар вомбат: Ah.
  288. 6:56 AM - комиссар вомбат: Okay.
  289. 6:56 AM - комиссар вомбат: No probs.
  290. 6:56 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: if we make a new community, ANYONE has a say in how to set up the inner workings
  291. 6:56 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: but do you belive their's an actual burency in this room?
  292. 6:56 AM - комиссар вомбат: I just think that everybody here is equally important and able to change things.
  293. 6:56 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: because there will be no previous experiences to go by
  294. 6:56 AM - комиссар вомбат: No way.
  295. 6:56 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: a social ladder.
  296. 6:56 AM - комиссар вомбат: Nope.
  297. 6:56 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: someone higher and lower from what i presented to you many many times through pm
  298. 6:57 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: anyone can bring out ideas and then we can discuss them
  299. 6:57 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Mar.
  300. 6:57 AM - комиссар вомбат: How can there be a social ladder, if there is no leader.
  301. 6:57 AM - комиссар вомбат: Or leaders.
  302. 6:57 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Answer me that.
  303. 6:57 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: with honesty..
  304. 6:57 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: there are people who take the initiative here and talk to others who arent so active in the group
  305. 6:57 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: but there is no hierarchy
  306. 6:57 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: but their is a system.
  307. 6:58 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: isen't their?
  308. 6:58 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: tox, you hang out with a lot of people in real life right?
  309. 6:58 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: is there a social ladder with them?
  310. 6:58 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: yes and they also have a system
  311. 6:58 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: much like this room..
  312. 6:58 AM - комиссар вомбат: But there is no bureacracy in this room..
  313. 6:59 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: actually their guard.. im pretty sure i convienced mar about it but it is true their is no hirarcy.. no one should be as better as anyone but their are people that are more capible of doing things then other.
  314. 6:59 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: is*
  315. 6:59 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: which is fine..
  316. 6:59 AM - комиссар вомбат: That doesn't mean there's a bureacracy..
  317. 6:59 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Some people are major roleplayers.
  318. 6:59 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Some people are followers and just play games with other members.
  319. 7:00 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Some members are coders/ programmers, that can perform technical task.
  320. 7:00 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: that doesnt mean that people have more worth to their words
  321. 7:00 AM - комиссар вомбат: I don't see how that can be a bureacracy..
  322. 7:00 AM - комиссар вомбат: ^
  323. 7:00 AM - комиссар вомбат: Life would suck if that were the case.
  324. 7:00 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Guard, the burencracy is not like the real world
  325. 7:00 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: but it's w/e...
  326. 7:01 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: hey look i can build a FUCK YOU sign in renegade
  327. 7:01 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: listen to me!
  328. 7:01 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: In a sense i stand in my word that you need to figure out who can actually perform a lot more and those who could barely do anything to support the community because of what they think or see or feel.
  329. 7:01 AM - комиссар вомбат: ????
  330. 7:01 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: then get those people to talk about makeing a new room.
  331. 7:02 AM - комиссар вомбат: Then that would be an oligarchy..
  332. 7:02 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: tox
  333. 7:02 AM - комиссар вомбат: Isn't it a democracy we're effectively using here?
  334. 7:02 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: those people with the knowhow and ability to do things for the community will be able to
  335. 7:02 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: like poco is already doing
  336. 7:02 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that's what im trying to imply ram.
  337. 7:03 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: but that doesnt mean poco's word is worth more than nuke's word
  338. 7:03 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ...
  339. 7:03 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: mar..
  340. 7:03 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it's not one person.
  341. 7:03 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it's everyone's words.
  342. 7:03 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: all mixed and thrown out their.
  343. 7:03 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and then resolved and simplified.
  344. 7:03 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: to an idealisitic idea.
  345. 7:04 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: of couse no one would agrewe with poco's word.
  346. 7:04 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that's a good step.
  347. 7:04 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: cuz then you bring out the problem and then fix that
  348. 7:04 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: do you get me?
  349. 7:05 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i do not
  350. 7:05 AM - комиссар вомбат: (I don't.)
  351. 7:05 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i see...
  352. 7:06 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i guess i may have gone far ahead... what im trying to say was that when you figure out who is more important, throw them into a spot to dish out their problems of a community and correct them then move onto another that a community can be created for all.
  353. 7:06 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: but eh.. i might just be thinking too much...
  354. 7:07 AM - комиссар вомбат: Nobody is more importnat than other people though...
  355. 7:07 AM - комиссар вомбат: Everybody is equally important.
  356. 7:07 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: but people with more knowledge and experience can give their ideas
  357. 7:07 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: if that's true guard.. then why is their conflcit among members to mar:?
  358. 7:07 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: because they dont tell me
  359. 7:07 AM - комиссар вомбат: Uh.
  360. 7:07 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: because their not equal.
  361. 7:07 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and i cant apologize or change my attitude to them
  362. 7:07 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: they have issues.
  363. 7:07 AM - комиссар вомбат: What?!
  364. 7:07 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and must corrected to be equal
  365. 7:07 AM - комиссар вомбат: How are they not equal?
  366. 7:07 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: .
  367. 7:07 AM - комиссар вомбат: Like, I don't get it.
  368. 7:07 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: are you serious guard?
  369. 7:07 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i dont get it either
  370. 7:08 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: god..dam dude.
  371. 7:08 AM - комиссар вомбат: Yes.
  372. 7:08 AM - комиссар вомбат: I am dead serious.
  373. 7:08 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ...
  374. 7:08 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: (The male sighs and face palms)
  375. 7:08 AM - комиссар вомбат: And if they had problems, then why not address it to everybody?
  376. 7:08 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: EVERYONE should know by not
  377. 7:08 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: now*
  378. 7:08 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: if they have a problem with me
  379. 7:08 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: they dont need to be afraid to tell me
  380. 7:08 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i am not john
  381. 7:08 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Well apperently they have different views.
  382. 7:08 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i will not ban anyone for silly reasons
  383. 7:08 AM - комиссар вомбат: So?
  384. 7:08 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and stupid personaltiies.
  385. 7:08 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i will not ban people who have different opinions than me
  386. 7:08 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i will not ban people who dont like me
  387. 7:08 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that;s fione
  388. 7:09 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: im not even saying anything about banning.
  389. 7:09 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: but for some reason these people think i will do that
  390. 7:09 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ..
  391. 7:09 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and is why they dont bring it up
  392. 7:09 AM - комиссар вомбат: What I'm concerned about, is the seemingly odd situation where people will talk behind other people's backs, instead of addressing the problem directly.
  393. 7:10 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: so in a sense their's just no way a community will ever be created..
  394. 7:10 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that we';ll just continue this life in this group chat
  395. 7:10 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: forever
  396. 7:10 AM - комиссар вомбат: This is what I'm getting from you tox.
  397. 7:10 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: until one of us
  398. 7:10 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: leaves
  399. 7:10 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: what?
  400. 7:10 AM - комиссар вомбат: What?
  401. 7:10 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and slowly diminishs from ram room
  402. 7:10 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i guess that's how you wanted it to be..
  403. 7:10 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: im not stopping you..
  404. 7:10 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: uh tox
  405. 7:10 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: im just gonna give up....
  406. 7:10 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: you lost me
  407. 7:10 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: im done.
  408. 7:10 AM - комиссар вомбат: Huh?
  409. 7:10 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i have no idea what you mean
  410. 7:10 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: explain please
  411. 7:11 AM - комиссар вомбат: I'm just as confused now..
  412. 7:11 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Im not seeing a solutiob,
  413. 7:11 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: solution.
  414. 7:12 AM - комиссар вомбат: But what's the problem?
  415. 7:12 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: .guard im not enjoying you questioning shit if you don't even understand.
  416. 7:12 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and like i said to mar before
  417. 7:12 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i don't wanna be part of a group that won't ever become a community.
  418. 7:12 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: tox
  419. 7:12 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: you figured it out.
  420. 7:12 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i dont understand at all
  421. 7:12 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: thats why im questioning
  422. 7:12 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: or w/e im just done.
  423. 7:12 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: so you can explain it to me
  424. 7:13 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: and then i can understand
  425. 7:13 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: ...
  426. 7:13 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: Mar...
  427. 7:13 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i cant read your mind
  428. 7:13 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: i dont know what you are implying here
  429. 7:14 AM - комиссар вомбат: Whelp I have no idea what's going on.
  430. 7:14 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: I don't wanna be stuck here in a group chat... without any progression to an actual community..
  431. 7:14 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: it brings me shame to even try to bring members in...
  432. 7:14 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: THEN TELL ME SO WE CAN CONTINUE
  433. 7:14 AM - Lt. Col. Anderson: PLEASE
  434. 7:14 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: im done..
  435. 7:14 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: i told youwhat i said
  436. 7:14 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: and your just annoying me
  437. 7:14 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov: that's it.
  438. 7:14 AM - Toxickun Von Volkov left chat.
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