about hour long discussion I had

MonteCrist0: also philosophy kinda helped me
MonteCrist0: through life
MonteCrist0: I guess
Asterat: how exactly
Asterat: do u read like plato n shit?
MonteCrist0: I'm sorta a philosopher
MonteCrist0: like not a big one but one for "fun"
Asterat: any good quotes?
Asterat: or policies?
MonteCrist0: I thought "how we see this world is really subjective- if we change our perception we change how life really is"
Asterat: that makes snese
Asterat: what really pisses me off
Asterat: is ppl that say
Asterat: live life to its fullest
MonteCrist0: I have one more but Imma let u speak
Asterat: what does that fucking mean
Asterat: no go ahead id love to hear it
MonteCrist0: "Life is one big puzzle and humans can only grasp piece. The more we get greedy and try to grasp what we can't (the other pieces) the more we break the other pieces in the process"
MonteCrist0: so
MonteCrist0: humans are trying to grasp things larger than themselves
MonteCrist0: and in the process
MonteCrist0: we destroy what we try to understand
MonteCrist0: its a curse I must say- the thirst for knowledge
Asterat: I definitely can agree with that
Asterat: sounds weird
Asterat: but
Asterat: I want there to be some sort of zombie apocalypse
Asterat: life is too superficial
MonteCrist0: yeah
MonteCrist0: I feel like Society prevents progression
Asterat: true progression
MonteCrist0: By becoming civilized we limit ourselves
Asterat: there is no happiness in society
Asterat: just a hollow shell we all pretend is contentment
MonteCrist0: indeed
MonteCrist0: By saying whats ok and what is not ok we've developed this sense of machinery
MonteCrist0: by breeding morality and prosecuting the outside thinkers we proceed to create this false world
MonteCrist0: people say some parents shelter their children bu society is sheltering us
Asterat: dude
Asterat: you fucking get it
Asterat: jesus
Asterat: finally
Asterat: people that kill themselves or relapse into the outskirts
Asterat: understand the facade of society
MonteCrist0: yeah
Asterat: and were bold enough to escape
MonteCrist0: I want the only rule to be: defend yourself or die
Asterat: and nobody understands that
Asterat: in schools
MonteCrist0: yeah
Asterat: they think people do heroin
Asterat: because it sounds fun
Asterat: no
Asterat: that's just
Asterat: wrong
MonteCrist0: people don't understand anything besides what they've been taught
Asterat: I think the greatest thinkers of our time were kurt cobain and syd barrett
Asterat: which sounds weird to most
Asterat: but I defend it
MonteCrist0: hah
MonteCrist0: sounds cool
MonteCrist0: I personally don't think there is a smartest person
Asterat: no I don't mean it that way
Asterat: but
Asterat: think about it
Asterat: you know when you play a video game
Asterat: and you get to the end and it gets boring
Asterat: because everything works so well
Asterat: like
Asterat: i can't think of a good example
Asterat: pokeomn
Asterat: sure
Asterat: you get past the e4 and everything is easy
Asterat: the thrill of discovery is pretty miniature compared to what it once was
Asterat: everything already exists
Asterat: nothing has been around to discover anew for some time
Asterat: we're simply livign through a world that already exists
Asterat: in which new development is slowly coming to a halt
Asterat: there is nowehre left to explore
MonteCrist0: yeah
MonteCrist0: everything is subjective to me- subjectivity decides everything we build our lives on- subjectivity is the enemy of truth and we're just living a life full of pre standardized bullshit
MonteCrist0: thnk aboutt it- the words I'm typing mean nothing
MonteCrist0: but society assigns value
MonteCrist0: to everything
Asterat: good point
Asterat: pretty much ever action one goes through on an everyday basis
Asterat: is so extradited and irrelevant to life itself it seems foolish
MonteCrist0: the government developes rules governing us but they're people too right? They govern what we do and what we can't? Why do they have power? Because we give them power
MonteCrist0: by living our superficial lives as humans we enpower the subjective bullshit that governs society and life as we know it
Asterat: life is to brutal to waste superficially
MonteCrist0: yeah
Asterat: it should be the journey of discoevring oneself
Asterat: REALLY discovering oneself
Asterat: not finding
Asterat: the perfect fucking career
Asterat: in terms of superficiality
Asterat: this morning
Asterat: I wrote a practice easay
Asterat: for the act
Asterat: think of how ambigious and superifical that is
Asterat: whats the point even
MonteCrist0: I don't think there's a self for me to discover- I've seen the truth and the truth isn't perfect- it's unanswered questions and raw, utter, helplessness
MonteCrist0: I do agree with your thoughts on this matter but
Asterat: as a species we put ourselves through pointless arebitrary competition for pointless position
Asterat: good point I guess
MonteCrist0: me as a man, fuck it- aperson, no fuck it, as a living, breathing , life form
MonteCrist0: I feel like
MonteCrist0: if we abandon our sheltering and scoeity in general
Asterat: curiosity is the bane of happiness
MonteCrist0: if we abandon our foundation- words, rules, etc
Asterat: the fool is the happiest man alive
MonteCrist0: then we have life as raw as it is
MonteCrist0: we have no foundation- we just
MonteCrist0: are
MonteCrist0: we live and build from point 0
Asterat: we can truly experience what life is
MonteCrist0: life and society and this fake life are things that are completely seperate
Asterat: instead of an extremely constricted overmodified shell of society
Asterat: yeah
MonteCrist0: by making the leap to real
MonteCrist0: it's unpredicatable
Asterat: that's why I want a zombie apolaypse
Asterat: not for people to die
MonteCrist0: I mean I'm preaching here but have I faced truth- have I faced reality
Asterat: but every action has a purpose
Asterat: and everything must be earned
MonteCrist0: thoughts go through my mind and I only see darkness but light is bound to be somewhere- life is deep and humans are too stupid to understand it
MonteCrist0: life is something too big for any life form to understand
MonteCrist0: the fact that I continue to breathe is a mystery to me myself
MonteCrist0: I have no idea what my purpose or my origin is
Asterat: well all this great discussion aside
MonteCrist0: I just know life is true darkness
Asterat: if I said anything of this in public
Asterat: 99% of the population would think im batshit crazy
Asterat: and even incriminate me for thinking different
MonteCrist0: by looking through all this sugar coated bullshit I only see- true and raw endless ife. Something I can't handle.
Asterat: as a society
MonteCrist0: it feels so weird
MonteCrist0: if I woke up tommorow and I had no language, no clothes no society
Asterat: we compete to see who can waste their life the most superficially
MonteCrist0: yeah
MonteCrist0: I would come closer to life yet I'd also be so distant
MonteCrist0: life isn't something you can truly understand as much as it is soemthing you experience
MonteCrist0: by just walking your preforming an un identified miraccle
Asterat: actually
MonteCrist0: sure we know how we walk- we know how our bones work- but why life continues to give us these tools is a mystery
Asterat: I'm going to keep my quote there I kind of like it
MonteCrist0: nice
Asterat: "Society is a competition to see who can waste their life the most superficially"
MonteCrist0: the life I grasp, the fact that I can take my hand out and slap myself, grasp something, do anything\
MonteCrist0: its truly amazing
Asterat: what the FUCK
Asterat: is money
Asterat: and currency
MonteCrist0: we take so much time as society thinking we're advancing and wek now everything
Asterat: the concept of ownershup
MonteCrist0: but we need to analyze the fact that
MonteCrist0: we don't even understnad
MonteCrist0: looking at our palms
MonteCrist0: we're reasonless life forms in a big giant rock with atmosphere and a solar system
MonteCrist0: WHAT THE FUCK IS A SUN?
MonteCrist0: is what we need to say
MonteCrist0: we need to question our own understanding
MonteCrist0: going back to point blank, the root of it all
MonteCrist0: thats what we are
MonteCrist0: just creatures that have used false understanding to create even more false udnerstanding
Asterat: progress is the bane of pleasure
MonteCrist0: if I died today- if I died this second- there'd be a funeral, but what is a funeral- why is it needed?
Asterat: good point
MonteCrist0: why do we continue to treat death as the bane of life
Asterat: it's an escape from reality
MonteCrist0: there is no life without death
MonteCrist0: our rules can't govern death so we fear it
MonteCrist0: we can't live behind our sugar coated society
MonteCrist0: so we fear it
Asterat: the only piece of our existence we can't truly destroy
MonteCrist0: we fear death because everythign we know as a society is gone
Asterat: it's a release
Asterat: heaven is the lack of existence
MonteCrist0: life is the lack of true understnad
MonteCrist0: and we can't come to grasp that
MonteCrist0: so we built this society
MonteCrist0: thinking we're advancing
MonteCrist0: death prevents eternal society
MonteCrist0: it prevents people from locking the door on your life and saying "you have to slive this sugar coated BS"
Asterat: it's like the matrix
Asterat: is real
Asterat: I mean not really
Asterat: but sort of
MonteCrist0: so our entire existance as society
MonteCrist0: our entire lives
MonteCrist0: everything we know from point blank
MonteCrist0: was based off of "fire hurt me. this hurt is bad. pain is bad"
MonteCrist0: etc
Asterat: I mean
MonteCrist0: by labeling things as negetive
Asterat: I don't want to live as a caveman
MonteCrist0: we grew from there
Asterat: but I want
Asterat: anarchy
Asterat: globally
Asterat: no currency
MonteCrist0: I want everything to turn black
MonteCrist0: I want to see the world as a deep dark void
Asterat: what almost bothers me most
Asterat: is that if your opinion differs
Asterat: you are shunned
MonteCrist0: yeah
Asterat: and spoon fed propaganda of what you are supposed to think
Asterat: anyways
MonteCrist0: yeah
Asterat: you get it
Asterat: almost nobody does
Asterat: the only escape from the facade of reality is death
Asterat: suicide is hardly a tragedy
MonteCrist0: yeah
Asterat: more of a victory
Asterat: weird as it sounds
MonteCrist0: yeah
MonteCrist0: the thing is
MonteCrist0: by suicide is kind of conforming to society
MonteCrist0: by letting them get you to the point where you let them have life
Asterat: giving up without a fight
MonteCrist0: you have death but they have life
MonteCrist0: think of the next generation of philosiphers like us
MonteCrist0: who have to "give up" on life and try and make an impact in the world of the dead
MonteCrist0: we should be able to live life at its core
MonteCrist0: we should be bale to see the day that socciety crumbles
MonteCrist0: I want to see every single human burn alive and enjoy it- I want to be able to see a life where nobody is this machine-like pre defined society sheltered fuck
MonteCrist0: I want to see people abandon language, currency, government- society life as I like to call it
MonteCrist0: and be themselves
Asterat: yes
MonteCrist0: learn to express through life not express through the tools that society gives us
MonteCrist0: suicide is the purest art
MonteCrist0: blood is the cleanest ink
MonteCrist0: because those are hte tools we give to ourselves
Asterat: nobody understands
Asterat: anything
MonteCrist0: I would like to be able to bite myself, bleed and just bleed otu
MonteCrist0: but my teeth are too weak
MonteCrist0: lol
Asterat: do you ever listen to pink floyd
Asterat: their albums cover so much of this
Asterat: wywh, animals, the wall specifically
Asterat: and dsotm
MonteCrist0: nicce
Asterat: animals
Asterat: is really anti society
MonteCrist0: doubt and destruction is the essance of life man
MonteCrist0: by not living by anyone elses rules
MonteCrist0: you actually
MonteCrist0: LIVE
MonteCrist0: by doing a blackflip off the empire state building despite everybody saying its crazy
Asterat: pigs.
MonteCrist0: thats living
Asterat: on.
Asterat: the.
Asterat: wing.
MonteCrist0: yeah
Asterat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGSPUOaHYn4
Asterat: literally outlines this
Asterat: 45 years+ ago
Asterat: before it got so bad even
MonteCrist0: humans are amazing creatures man
MonteCrist0: I just bit myself with all my strength
MonteCrist0: and the bite marks are almost gone
MonteCrist0: we talk about super powers but humans are fucking super beings
Asterat: but we don't use those pwoers
Asterat: correctly
MonteCrist0: I had a cut on my arm from getting mugged (almost)
Asterat: we try to understand why
MonteCrist0: last week
MonteCrist0: its healed now
MonteCrist0: not joking
MonteCrist0: completely healed
Asterat: instead of just enjoying what we have
MonteCrist0: no bandages or medical treatment
Asterat: we don't need jobs
MonteCrist0: it's called envy
Asterat: ok man
Asterat: i believe you
MonteCrist0: I know you do
MonteCrist0: its just
Asterat: we could just build little houses
Asterat: grow crops
MonteCrist0: the fact itself amazes me
Asterat: and just live
Asterat: true
MonteCrist0: humans are built off 3 things- profit, greed and envy
Asterat: pigns on the wing 1 and 2
MonteCrist0: if we don't profit we don't act
Asterat: really cover
Asterat: a classless society
Asterat: where u just live
Asterat: too bad
Asterat: it will neer exist
MonteCrist0: if we can't gain something we don't take action- greed
MonteCrist0: we always want more- greed and are always jealous of people who society says we have to be jealous to
MonteCrist0: envy
MonteCrist0: these 3 things have single handidly built humans and the society we know it
MonteCrist0: society drills these 3 things into our mind and just sugar coats them
MonteCrist0: and then we instantly become drones
MonteCrist0: by escaping the profit mentatlity we learn to question authority
MonteCrist0: general questioning holds no profit, but if we don't think about it in such a sense
MonteCrist0: we see
MonteCrist0: "If this is what I want to do, not as a human of society but as a breathing life form with my own independant desires"
MonteCrist0: "I'll do it"
MonteCrist0: society collapses and this mentality spreads- thus anarchy develops
MonteCrist0: thats the life I want to live
MonteCrist0: I want to be able to think as a breathing life form instead of a human
MonteCrist0: if that makes sense to ya
MonteCrist0: anyways you seem to be afk
MonteCrist0: so
MonteCrist0: I'll leave this here