John&Stacks - Truth behind CoreSec

			Explaining the motive behind the bank attacks, and my past life.

Doing this because this will definitely help us in getting rid of habits that everything isn't free anymore, etc and to quit what we've been doing.


	For people that doesn't know what DDoS and such terms are, here's in finnish regarding what I am talking about:

			http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/2015033119449938_uu.shtml

Before I start, if for some reason you don't want to be cool with me anymore due to for some retarded reason, you were never real and can honestly fuck off from my life, thank you

			Related to the DDoS attacks on financial sector[banks] and my life in general!
			Feel free to SHARE as much as you want!
			(Stacks's point of view of what has happend)
			so if you're interested to hear why we did it all of what we have been now suspected of
			then please, feel free to keep reading.

WANT TO BE HEARD ON WHY EVERYTHING HAPPENED BEFORE POSSIBLY BIASED COURT JUDGES US WRONG WITHOUT SEEING THE REAL POINT OF THE CASE!

			READ before you're going to comment anything, and you'll definitely understand pure #facts.

I know there'll be plenty of people that doesn't really get why would someone come out with the truth on their own, but it's my life, and my decisions,
but hopefully there is more of those people that do appreacite this in some manner.
I want to explain to everyone about my past life because the mentioned names who take part in this,
				have decided to change their lifestyles,
	thought opening up about it would basically be the end of this so called "fun and living without no worries at all."

When I was really young, about 12 years old there would be other children just like me playing around outside,
while I spent my time with computers playing games, meeting people online, learning on my own, never at that age thought that I would someday do what we did with,
with my buddy John that I also met through connections via internet, infact in San Andreas Multiplayer community named Valhalla Gaming.

		Me and John shared same type of interests, both have felt how does it feel to be broke and basically
	pretty much possessed a different type of mindset compared to other people at our age.

		The reasons for the credit card fraud and bank fraud charges are as following:

- Got tired of not having what everyone else had, but then we had that x100 more infact after with this so.
- Everyone is pressuring that life is all about money and shit, so we were wanting to feel if that's actually the case.
- It's fucked up that you can't really do anything in this world if you don't possess a certain amount of some fucking euros.
- Goverment refused to assist me financially(KELA)
which led to me having over $4,000 debt, which I will never pay though,
because it only is goverment's fault for not assisting a finnish citizen out with paying rents, yet you help out people that drink all their money and everything.
So, thank you so damn much for all of the help, this was our response, we were left on ourselfs, to work on our own...


- Before these incidents, I used to use these knowledge that I have in technology in general, for good purposes only.
- Sent lists of exploitable websites with XSS/SQLi vulnerabilities towards Kyberturvallisuuskeskus/CERT-team at the age of like 15 or 16 I think.
- Some were actually sites that do possess confidental data, rather than exploiting them myself I thought it'd be nice to help out on some occasions.
 Till one day, I really got upset about mainly for not getting financial assistance,
 and I was indeed making mad money with this, and now I'm caught and bored of this anyway, so I wish eventually I would be able to learn even more, and show up in good purposes.
- It's over now though. I'm going to try everything to solve these problems, try to find some job or something, but I've a feeling that in Finland it's not going to happen w/o proper education,
- Which is really fucked up, because schools doesn't actually prove nor teach you anything that you can't learn on your own, hence I am gonna say only: #FuckSchools!


We managed to live for financially free by learning the advanced use of computers basically,
Everything was free to us, food, and even drinks, only of the rare things we had to pay for was weed which where the money wasn't ours lol.
lived a fully financially free life past six months, basically.
Feeling was something that you could describe same as how it felt in Christmas as a small kid
Getting free packages, meals, phones, laptops, free Armani/Versace/Gucci designer clothes, even had my Giuseppe Zanotti limited Edition shoes that cost $1,000, lol, delivered to you on daily basis, not having to worry about financial issues, nothing.
thought we could obtain some real happiness through this, but I'm telling you people that money isn't where the actual happiness it,
Goverment has just fucked up people's mindset on money, me and John felt how does it feel to get anything you want, without putting much work into it.
Pretty much then started doing even more tougher ways to access big amounts of money, all we had in our mind was money and money.
Could say that we were motivated to money making everyday, because it was absolutely easy for us, did it and joked about it for six months.
Had access to thousands of people's credit card information data, private bank logins worldwide etc.
Have even had to been sleeping in hotels using these ways.
Have stopped doing fraudelent actions entirely now though,
because it doesn't even feel nice anymore to be honest to get everything you want for free
Rather obtain what you want, through series of doing something that could actually have you deserve what you want.
Doing that, for sure feels alot of better and we are trying to get back to that type of life.
Last thing that made us to come to this conclusion, was that we were captured by the KRP and locked up for weeks,
That's infact longer than a criminal commiting rape in Finland will be in custody for, and will be out on trial waiting for court on the same day, sad but true facts.
I've always held lots of hate towards the goverment, and it even increased by the time when me and John decided to move to,
the same apartment together, but goverment tried to fuck it up by not assisting financially at all,
and try to just have fun as much as possible and our mind thoughts were that money is where it's at...

And we did, all of that, this story's point ain't there so, I wont go more into how, some do know, some might not.
	because I don't want to guide people on how to do this by any means.


			Now, let's go talk about the actual case which led to our capture:


Listing reasons, why, me/Venom/Stacks, whatever decided to take down some of your financial sector areas[DDoSed biggest Finland banks down]:


- I just honestly wanted to stress test your services, I was reading somewhere that Finland's been taking good spots in mitigation/blocking DDoS attack, I don't know how do you stress test, but I can tell it was horrible, and the results showed it when a real DDoS kicked in.
- Banks couldn't do anything, I'm telling you that the people whoever were trying to solve the attack, didn't do well, two days to block certain countries where most attacking IPs are...
- OP first released a statement that it's a problem with their hardware, because the people thought that ATM network would be all the way safe, and wouldn't go down with DDoS, they weren't expecting it at all.
- Then also that I wanted to test Layer-7 type of attacks after a long time, see if I would be capable of taking down payment gateways.
- I realize what I did is wrong in the end, but if you look at it in some other way than thinking about money, you'll realize it's actually good that I did it.
- If I personally, at the age of 17 take down biggest bank's in Finland, what could an another country do? Whole Finland would have absolutely no bank's digital spawned money moving. DDoSing isn't hard, yeah, but that's not the point. The point is that if another Goverment wanted to smack up with Finland, they'd have had rek'd the systems harder than I did... So FIX!
- I really do hope that you have fixed your servers, horrible. I'm happy that I did it anyway, even if it would put me to prison or debt for lifetime, still.
- Took a botnet with a decent amount of bots, a couple dedicated servers, totaling about 25GBs a second, millions of packets in a second to down most biggest banks, (assuming what newspaper has told about, never ran dstats with my power really, but I have nullrouted e.g volt host nodes before where 2500 servers went down, so I'm pretty sure it's about 25-30GB/s a sec.
- So the main reasons are; I just wanted to see how will it be mitigated, [pretty unprofessonial btw imo, took 2 days to filter traffic from common countries where most bots were from, then I started using FI bots in it, and then to block that it took you four days...]
- But also wanted to see; if I can do it, but the main reason indeed was just to stress test your services.
- It's funny how the KRP is also investigating like it's a big part of some extortion ring, just a few comments regarding those payments, even common sense will tell you that banks wouldn't pay up anything...
- Whatever this takes me to, I'll still love my life. I don't care personally at all if I get debt up to 500K or anything, I will still be happy, because I know, from experience now that money is NOTHING but a fucking plague, so you need it to live anyway...
- If there's anything else I can do to solve these issues than you telling me to pay 500k, which I would never pay any cents anyway, sure no problem at all to try to give something back.
- I'm really changing my lifestyles, but if due to this case I will be unable to have a bank account or use the services that Finland has to offer, I will just start a new life in another country after I have done my sentence, I will not try by any means to avoid it or anything, it's fine with me.
- Never thought I'd write about this myself, but because there is actually certain reasons in my life that's making sense, I want to just tell my point of view before it's too late, court judge would give me a tougher sentence than actual criminals receive, knowing Finland, still probably do lol.
- Now if speaking about this, would get me back into taken custody, just proves how fucked up country this actually is.
- To everyone saying that this will ruin my life, nah. Life isn't about if you can get a loan from bank, none of that, life is full of opportunities, I have just recently started to explore my opportunities!
- These days, if another war between Finland and in this case Russia would startup, I'm pretty sure nowadays it indeed would start at the first by downing certain payment gateways, and if you had this type of security when and if that ever would happen, it'd be sad...
- I didn't want to ruin people's fun out there actually, I wasn't expecting that it would take banks that tough to start mitigation, infact I can tell that ddos-guard.net is harder to take down than any banks in Finland, I ran some tests when I still had my power(KRP has 8 computers or so lol)
- OP made 95 millions of profit last year, yet host everything on the same box? That's a shame honestly. I'm really happy that I pointed out these facts. OP's system is basically, one service go down, all go down... OR atleast used to be.
- If this case didn't happen, and actually someone attacked Finland in professonial manner, people would cry that, why didn't nobody test? Why hasn't there been stress test attacks ran?
- You only have to learn out of this case, and really upgrade your hardware ASAP...
- As for Danske Bank, DDoSing their range IP downed them in EVERY Nordic country, that's also horrible, seriously? Don't you know how to configure everything up properly, ever heard of seperated servers...?
- I'm mainly typing this also, because it's already damn obvious, and authorities do have some solid quality proof of it anyway, but it's not the only reason. It's easier for me to quit these type of actions once I've opened up about it, feel me?
- Only part that I do apologize for are the extortion comments, those weren't really meant, but even common sense tells that nobody would really pay it up especially banks, I don't want people to thinking that I'm some extortion criminal either, rofl.
- Nordea atleast showed some ways of mitigation, hats off for you.
- Before the biased court judge will decide to fuck up my credit info due to these acts, I did so myself as soon as I got out of jail, ordered Samsung Galaxy S6, two computers, took those fast loans as much as I can, useless info for me anyway. :) Money doesn't mean nuffin' anymore. It's something you just must have a little bit to survive, haha. What a world lol.
- I think that the ATM wasn't seperated either from other network, I have spoken, and I am done with doing these type of acts again as mentioned though, will love to live by legal methods again.
- I must agree with this guy to the fullest:
http://www.digitoday.fi/yhteiskunta/2015/01/10/tylya-puhetta-suomen-pankki-iskusta-torjunnassa-selvia-puutteita/2015295/66
- I remember only DDoSing the IP that OP was hosted on, only their website IP which then took down every system that they do have, including ATM. Pretty sad.


				Below explanation as to how we got caught by the police:

- Getting caught didn't come as a suprise at all, I was spreading a link that auto executes a bot upon clicking basically on the link and forgot to edit the hostname of the virus that I was using for bots to connect to, had same alias as my Instagram etc, that's how the KRP found me. I'm 100% sure that was the first link to the case,
and those bots were the ones that were used in the DDoS, and I did a small bank transfer from one of the bot's PC to BTC, and they tracked that the computer connects back to the hostname, then googled my online alias and found my Instagram and then found more chatlog evidence through my phone's Skype that was snatched in the situtation when we had six (6) KRP agents pull up on us.
- Don't really mind being caught now either, nor did we really ever care about it, we were using our home addresses as drops when we were ordering stuff from the net, etc. Not so serious, lol. :D
- Use fake names for carding? No way, own name is the one that came to mind first. Our point is that we never took this type of life serious, nor do we want to do it forever. This just was some type of fun for us, because we could do it, but it has come to it's end by now.
(Carding: Credit card fraud, ordering items and such over the internet using someone's financial information without their permission for your own good.)
- Glad that it's over now though, I'm personally happy to be living just like every citizen is supposed to, obey by the law, but did what I had to do to, for a living because we could.



FOR COURT CASE / Want to share point of view in public also to reduce the amount of hate this will get if people still will assume that it was actual extortion attempt, which was just trolling tbh.

I would absolutely change the free lifestyle we've joyed for the meaning of life for humans today. Which is, love and true happiness from other people accepting and caring about you.
That is by the words of my best buddy John, if everyone else were hating on us, we'd still back each other up like good buddies do.


	However, I don't honestly regret this at all, everything that I have done, has an actual reason behind it,
	If I could decide now and knew what will those extortion troll messages lead to,
	those I would of had left out since it was pure troll anyway,
	but the attacks nope. They were needed IMO.
	Some will understand, haters can also hate if so, you think I care like at all?
Yes, I have broken the law in Finland, and if that makes you want to make me do some time in the correct faciliation, let it be so.
	I'm too happy of that I'm quitting this finally, so I don't even care tbh.
	In jail, you didn't have to worry about the next day anyway, or card food because the goverment doesn't give you any money, nor can you get a job w/o past experience through schools and shit so, could name it a fucked up world lmfao.


	Last but not least, before commenting upon on this, I want you to take a look at this link and just think for a second;
	John sat 12 days, and I had to do 15 myself. Meanwhile a raper goes for questioning, Officer GUESSES that it's him, interviews, lets him go, whatever, can't really say nothing to that.
	I bet if that guy raped a bitch that works for the goverment, he'd still be there, am I correct? And we wouldn't be talking of minor rape, but extreme charges. #TruthofFinlandLaws
	Isn't that how everything works in this country? Just because you work for the goverment and make money,
	doesn't mean that you're somewhat more valuable person at all, but Finland is Finland.

http://www.iltalehti.fi/keskustelu/showthread.php?p=17934768



			If someone wants to translate this to finnish, sure go ahead but I can't myself do that.
				Wouldn't get so many words up in my head etc.


							Facts:

Instead of punishing and ruining my chances of a normal financial life for SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY HELPED THIS COUNTRY, you should actually reward me for revealing this vulnerability in the country.

And, if you're just simply too retarded/stupid/alcoholic average finnish person to realize that the extortion comments were simply up just joking and the above, please go behind your sauna and throw that rope over...


This will be the end of doing this type of acts though, in someway this was horrible especially for the customers of the banks, I'm sorry, but then again in someway there was also good reasons for this act to happen in the end tbh.



There might be some grammatical issues, but so what, typed this all and spent like few hours only, because I possess pretty fast hands w/ keyboard.

			Can entirely agree with the video below, suggest to watch it:

					https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipe6CMvW0Dg





						Best Regards,
						John&Stacks
						Venom
						Comrade


						The End of CoreSec

						SQUAD OUT!!