ddwarf
	Radioactive_Bears	((What are the names supposed to be?))
	FlakyBiscuit	(like i said in the other chat, you can't play this game without at least 3 players and a gm)
	FlakyBiscuit	(someone link him the doc)
	FlakyBiscuit	(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15337665/FYEW1%20-%20Basic%20Rules.pdf)
	TheKinginAmber	(flaky you're my hero)
	FlakyBiscuit	(alright, I'm Prince Yodrick)
	PrinceAlbert	(basically a character is just a name, and 3 points of favor. first of us to 10 favor or when we all lose all favor is end of game)
	=-=	YOU are now known as PrinceDuke
	PrinceDuke	((Reading now, ready to begin))
	PrinceAlbert	(during the day phase, the king declares 3 conditions/themes that have to show up in our tales)
	=-=	YOU are now known as PrinceDuchess
	TheKinginAmber	(okay. everyone ready? I'm going to pick the three conditions in a minute. And I'm going to pretend that the youngest is Yodrick, then Albert, then duchess)
	PrinceAlbert	(groovy)
	PrinceDuchess	((Sounds good)
	FlakyBiscuit	(k)
	TheKinginAmber	(Right. Additional rules. Since we're playing in IRC, I would ask that people restrict each post to a sentence each, and that if someone wants to quickly butt in, and interrupt the tale being told, they type out OBJECTION. that way, you have enough time to bring it out with no prolbem.)
	PrinceDuchess	((OK))
	PrinceAlbert	(cool)
	FlakyBiscuit	(y)
	TheKinginAmber	(For the first day, let's have a theme to start with. Take your time, think it through while I do my descriptions. The conditions are...)
	TheKinginAmber	(A mention of Cake)
	TheKinginAmber	(Candles must be included)
	TheKinginAmber	(There must be absolutely no one in the story who is visually under the age of 20)
	TheKinginAmber	sits quietly upon his throne, staring at the world through dulled eyes. He yawns, already bored. Shifting in his seat, he paitently waits for the time for his blessed children to return, and to tell a tale of what has transpired to them after they left his care and ventured into the shadow itself. His wish, as most things, is granted, and he sits forward with an eager ear to listen to them...
	TheKinginAmber	...as they arrive. Turning to his eldest, Yodrick, he smiles and says.
	TheKinginAmber	My dearest Yodrick. It has been far too long since you have told me a story worthy of my attention. Why not share with us what the Amber has shown you today. But be advised, do not bring any of what I have warned you off. I try to forget the meaning to toay.
	TheKinginAmber	today***
	FlakyBiscuit	Do not worry, Father, for I have nothing to regale you with but the most fantastic of stories.
	FlakyBiscuit	I travelled to the Gilded Husk, and strode between its shimmering glass towers.
	FlakyBiscuit	I walked in silence for a while, with only the bubbling of the low-down soil's discontent to sing me along.
	FlakyBiscuit	But all of a sudden, a commotion broke out on the lane in front of me.
	FlakyBiscuit	A throng - a precession, perhaps? - of the most ancient forms I have ever seen shuffled, carrying in their midst a humongous palisade covered in the finest of lace.
	FlakyBiscuit	Just as I was about to voice my confusion at these matters, they came to a dead stop.
	FlakyBiscuit	They set the massive clothed thing down, and, with a deft pull from a few of their number, uncovered it.
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	FlakyBiscuit	You will never believe what it was, Father.
	FlakyBiscuit	The hugest, most ornate cake you have ever seen!
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	FlakyBiscuit	the size of two - no, three full-grown elphas, studded from rim to rim with glass-wicked candles, hand carved by the seers of the land.
	PrinceDuchess	"OBJECTION!"
	FlakyBiscuit	Mmm? You object?
	PrinceDuchess	I do indeed
	FlakyBiscuit	To what, pray tell?
	PrinceDuchess	Everyone knows that rabid cake-beasts roam the land
	PrinceDuchess	Are you saying that this cake was protected, brother?
	FlakyBiscuit	This was no ordinary cake-beast, brother.
	PrinceDuchess	((Full Disclosure, I don't know anything about this setting :I ))
	FlakyBiscuit	(there is no setting as far as I know)
	FlakyBiscuit	(I was just bullshitting)
	TheKinginAmber	((Full disclosure, there is no setting. MAKE SH&& UP!)
	PrinceAlbert	(full disclosure: this is SA, you can say shit :p)
	PrinceDuchess	((Oh good))
	FlakyBiscuit	As I was about to tell Father before you so rudely interrupted, upon closer inspection this was a hand-grown cake beast, raised in the empress' stables.
	PrinceDuchess	CAKEBEASTS! ROAMING THE GUILDED HUSK FAR AND WIDE WITH THEIR GREAT HOOKED CLAWS AND RUINING BIRTHDAYS FAR AND WIDE!
	FlakyBiscuit	Only the wild cakebeasts possess the pheremone that attracts their own number to devour them
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	FlakyBiscuit	As you would know if you had gone to lessons!
	TheKinginAmber	Now now. My children. there is no need for such a conflict.
	PrinceDuchess	I... I never learned to read
	FlakyBiscuit	I apologize, Father.
	TheKinginAmber	You both know I love you dearly... but we cannot have falsities in my court.
	TheKinginAmber	I open the discussion to the rest of your brothers.
	PrinceAlbert	(I vote duchess)
	FlakyBiscuit	(Traitor!)
	TheKinginAmber	Children. What say you. Is dear Yodrick telling the truth? Is there such a thing as a home grown cake-beast?
	PrinceAlbert	Yes father, I saw it with my own eyes
	PrinceAlbert	(my reason is that cake beasts are awesome.)
	FlakyBiscuit	(no, you have to disagree with me, not agree)
	TheKinginAmber	(you only need to justify negative votes.. but cake beasts are pretty cool.)
	TheKinginAmber	(actually I just realised. you are the ONLY one who GETS a vote. DAMNIT I need more players)
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	TheKinginAmber	You saw it? With your eyes?
	TheKinginAmber	Where you there?
	PrinceAlbert	(gorbash may be incoming)
	PrinceAlbert	yes father I was there. I saw vast herds of these cake beasts roaming the plain.
	TheKinginAmber	(I'm cool with that. he is more than welcome, we've only just started)
	PrinceAlbert	they sought out children's birthdays and ate all their presents it was dreadful
	=-=	Gorbash is now known as PrinceGerald
	FlakyBiscuit	Yes, brother, I know that.
	TheKinginAmber	(gorbash, we'll bring you in the second conflict)
	FlakyBiscuit	But what issue do you take with my story?
	PrinceGerald	(okay)
	TheKinginAmber	Yes. Tell me my son.
	PrinceDuchess	Everyone knows that Cake-Beasts detest the elderly, and will attack them on sight
	PrinceAlbert	my issue is that it is well known that cake beasts are allergic to glass, so the cake you saw could not have had candles upon it
	PrinceDuchess	I know, for I have unleased the beasts on scores of retirees for sport
	PrinceAlbert	(for sake of progress I'll burn a favor) so because the cakebeast could not have had candles, your assertion is false
	PrinceDuchess	((I'm not even sure if this is my objection anymore or how this works))
	FlakyBiscuit	I did not know that a dead cakebeast could be allergic!
	TheKinginAmber	(We kinda went past it)
	TheKinginAmber	You would have, if you had actually seen it!
	PrinceAlbert	(should we retcon?)
	FlakyBiscuit	(let's just keep going)
	TheKinginAmber	(nah it's cool.)
	FlakyBiscuit	If this ASSAULT is over, may I continue?
	PrinceAlbert	please do, dear brother
	PrinceDuchess	Gwan
	FlakyBiscuit	Hmph.
	TheKinginAmber	Once again my own son comes to me with a promise of wonderous tales, to fall short. Continue, but you do not look as bright as you did before.
	TheKinginAmber	(lose 1 favour)
	FlakyBiscuit	Well, as I was saying, this cakebeast was rimmed with candles - perhaps not of glass, but of some other pedantic similarity - that were, one by one, lit by its ancient guards.
	TheKinginAmber	(oh, also Duchess gain 1 favour)
	FlakyBiscuit	And as the last was lit, the entirety of the beast was fallen upon by the crowd.
	FlakyBiscuit	At such a horrendous sight, I fled, and stand now here before you, o Father my King.
	FlakyBiscuit	*bows in honor*
	FlakyBiscuit	(i can see some problems with this system emerging)
	PrinceDuchess	Duchess coughs under his breath "Cough*Lame*Cough"
	TheKinginAmber	(me too.. oh I'm not supposed to give favour till the end! sowwy! take that back)
	TheKinginAmber	(I can take away favour any time though)
	PrinceAlbert	elbows Duchess in the ribs
	PrinceDuchess	Oof
	TheKinginAmber	raies a very wary eyebrow at Albert.
	PrinceAlbert	(ok, so am I restating flaky's tale, or doing an entirely different one in the same shadow with the same themes?)
	FlakyBiscuit	(your tale is entirely seperate)
	FlakyBiscuit	(absolutely no relation)
	PrinceAlbert	(groovy)
	TheKinginAmber	(entirely seperate)
	PrinceDuchess	((Is Gerald the eldest now? Where does he fit?))
	TheKinginAmber	Now if you are quite done being rather confrontational with your dear brother....
	TheKinginAmber	It is your turn to contirtube.
	TheKinginAmber	(I can't spell!)
	PrinceAlbert	(I'd say have gerald eldest)
	TheKinginAmber	I pray it is as entertaining.
	TheKinginAmber	(and he's eldest)
	PrinceGerald	(i may well be :B)
	PrinceAlbert	Yes dear father it is a tale of daring and danger
	PrinceAlbert	I travelled to the shadowed wilds, to hunt the great and terrible beasts there
	PrinceAlbert	by day we stalked the long grasses of the savannah, by night we read by candlelight and ate small traveling cakes as rations
	PrinceAlbert	My guide was a veteran of advanced years who had grown up in the area
	PrinceAlbert	he promised to lead me to the famed hunting lands of the Narthox, the great bipedal beast that ate entire villages in it's path
	FlakyBiscuit	OBJECTION!
	PrinceAlbert	what might your objection be dear brother?
	FlakyBiscuit	You say that your guide was a "veteran" of the area?
	TheKinginAmber	rolls his eyes, but hides a grin
	FlakyBiscuit	Then how did he not know of the slaying of the Narthox?
	PrinceAlbert	yes brother, my tale shall stand
	FlakyBiscuit	Surely even you must take an interest in the news of the Shadows.
	PrinceAlbert	(did I do that right?)
	FlakyBiscuit	Everyone knows that, so why did he not?
	PrinceDuchess	((Wait does that mean the beast was actually slain?))
	PrinceAlbert	He was a veteran huntsman
	TheKinginAmber	((depends on the vote))
	PrinceAlbert	it was a turn of phrase, as to the fate of the Narthox, of course it was slain...I slew it
	FlakyBiscuit	(i guess we vote now?)
	TheKinginAmber	(Albert, are you having your tale stand then?)
	PrinceAlbert	(yep)
	TheKinginAmber	Hmm... an interesting course of events. Gerald. You've remained rather quiet for a while, what say you to this tale?
	TheKinginAmber	(Just to save time, Im just going to ask each person in tern what their vote is and why, as it's through Text, its probably easier to do it that way)
	PrinceGerald	casually reclines in his chair. "I am giving all my attention to these wonderful tales, dear father. And I would most like to hear how my good brother Albert slew the terrible Narthox."
	PrinceAlbert	grins a terrible and wolfish grin
	TheKinginAmber	Are you saying you agree with With Albert then, that the Narthox was not slain before? What do you have to prove of this?
	PrinceAlbert	reaches into his knapsack
	PrinceAlbert	I have this Narthox tooth!
	FlakyBiscuit	(no, that's not how that works)
	PrinceAlbert	(ok)
	PrinceGerald	(if i agreed with Flaky i would have to justify it)
	FlakyBiscuit	(he has to prove it, not you)
	FlakyBiscuit	(you have to justify it either way)
	PrinceAlbert	(damn, ok)
	PrinceGerald	(which is the negative vote though?)
	TheKinginAmber	(Gerald, if you agree with one brother, you have to justify why you don't agree with the other brother... I think)
	FlakyBiscuit	(yeah)
	PrinceGerald	(ooh i get it now)
	FlakyBiscuit	(all votes have to be justified)
	PrinceDuchess	"I say that Albert must be telling true, Father. Though some may have slain a Narthox it is unreasonable to assume that such a beast would exist without any family to sire it or sire with it. Truly, there must be at least a few of the dreaded creatures strewn to the four corners, even if legend tells of it's demise."
	PrinceGerald	"And I say his claim is true because he has been pestering the royal taxonimist on the proper way to display the tooth of some monstrous beast."
	TheKinginAmber	Hmm... a mighty point Duchess. the world of the shadows is unimaginably vast. a version perhaps not known to my dear son Yordrick, there might be a world where to Narthox exist.
	FlakyBiscuit	(welp, i got one favour left and i'm out)
	TheKinginAmber	Please, do not let my rather slowly becoming my unfavourable son elude you. Please. continue.
	PrinceAlbert	In the parlance of the land, I "Narfled" the creature, which means that I crept upon it in the dead of night
	PrinceAlbert	I climbed the vast flanks of the beast, and with a trusty blade I slit through it's jugular
	PrinceAlbert	the hide was extraordinarily thick, and it took some time
	PrinceAlbert	after my first attempt the creature woke and began stomping and bucking trying to shake me off, as dog might shake off a kitten
	PrinceAlbert	I held on for dear life, sawing away at it's neck as noxious thick black blood seeped out and drenched me completely
	PrinceAlbert	as this went on, my guide must have tried to assist me, and had become trampled beneath the beasts hooves
	PrinceAlbert	after what felt like an eternity of struggle the Narthox slowed, and then sank to the ground. dead
	PrinceAlbert	I could find no better trophy than a sharp tooth, as long as my arm.
	PrinceAlbert	I left the carcass there to feed the locals, I'm told that Narthox jerky is edible though not considered a favorite, and the one I had killed was large enough to feed several villages
	PrinceAlbert	I then returned here to tell you this tale
	PrinceAlbert	bows
	PrinceAlbert	thank you Father
	TheKinginAmber	My son, it is I who should be thanking you.
	PrinceGerald	(what were the things that need to be in the story?)
	TheKinginAmber	(Cake, Candles, and no one must be uynder the age of 20)
	PrinceAlbert	(cakes, candles, people older than 20)
	TheKinginAmber	Such a tale, of death, and adventure, and the hunt. Oh how I long for it.
	PrinceGerald	(ah)
	PrinceDuchess	((Shoulda made the beast into a cake :I ))
	PrinceAlbert	(we ate travelling cakes and read by candlelight right at the beginning)
	TheKinginAmber	More than I do for cake beasts, if I should say so myself.... *Glares at Yorick*
	PrinceAlbert	(but beast cake woulda been cool)
	TheKinginAmber	(Oh and BTW Gerald, your justification wasn't right BTW. But we[ll carry on for now till we're more used to it)
	TheKinginAmber	And nowi t is your turn, dearest duchess. Apple of my eye, tell me of your shenanegians.
	PrinceDuchess	"I bring a tale of mischief, fire, and harassment of the elderly dear father."
	PrinceDuchess	As you know, I carry deep in my bosom a love of illegal fireworks, and a hatred for those of certain years
	PrinceGerald	(i dont quite get the justifcation then)
	TheKinginAmber	(don't worry about it, I'll go through it again when it comes up)
	PrinceDuchess	And as you may recall, there was a minor fire caused during the Baroness Argathas last Birthday party, leaving her hairless
	PrinceDuchess	and incredibly angry
	PrinceAlbert	giggles
	PrinceDuchess	I am must confess I am to blame
	PrinceDuchess	It all started when I visited by favorite shadow, New Jersey, the docks to be more specific
	PrinceDuchess	In an attempt to purchase more illegal fireworks from my favorite yugoslavian warehouse
	PrinceDuchess	I saw on the merchant's suburu that he had a wealth of incredibly poorly made candles
	PrinceDuchess	And that he also was in stock on a number of explosive rockets and whistlers
	PrinceDuchess	you all know quite well that I may not resist a good prank or act of violence against the good Baroness
	PrinceDuchess	which is why I am now barred from any and all of her parties throughout the amber
	PrinceDuchess	I snuck, snicker snack past her guards, and went to alter her cake accordingly
	PrinceAlbert	OBJECTION
	PrinceDuchess	Objection you say?
	PrinceDuchess	How so
	PrinceAlbert	As you may recall, that fateful party had no such misanthropic cake
	PrinceAlbert	the fire that took the Baroness' hair was from incendiaries hidden in her bonnet
	PrinceAlbert	(still unsure if I'm doing this right, but I'm the only one who hasn't made an objection)
	PrinceDuchess	A ruse, dear brother. Though a cake was my aim, I am not one to shirk myself from other plans
	PrinceDuchess	The culprit was none other than a variety of traps for her to stumble on to
	TheKinginAmber	(Sounds fair actually, I think that works)
	PrinceDuchess	even if the Bonnet was the spark that ignited the powder keg
	PrinceAlbert	that is a fair point brother
	TheKinginAmber	...
	PrinceDuchess	Though the cake was bay far my Pis de Resistance
	PrinceDuchess	((VOTE TIME :D))
	TheKinginAmber	Well I suppose there is but one question to ask your siblins...
	TheKinginAmber	If there cake truely existed or not.
	TheKinginAmber	Gerald. You are the oldest, who do you truely believe?
	TheKinginAmber	(Remember, pick a brother, but you have to justify why the brother you DID NOT pick's story is a lie)
	PrinceGerald	"Duchess, for how can it be a true birthday party if the cake was but a lie?"
	PrinceAlbert	(lol)
	FlakyBiscuit	(god damn it, get out)
	PrinceDuchess	:I
	PrinceGerald	(come on, everyone was thinking it)
	PrinceDuchess	Thinking isn't the same as saying :I
	PrinceAlbert	(:v)
	TheKinginAmber	(as the King... I'll allow it)
	PrinceDuchess	((Did that mean you voted for or against me?))
	TheKinginAmber	That sounds terribl....ly.... logical.
	PrinceAlbert	(doesn't flaky also have to vote on either me or duchess?)
	TheKinginAmber	(Its not his turn yet!)
	FlakyBiscuit	(yeah, but he hasn't asked me yet)
	PrinceAlbert	(ok, I'm dumb)
	PrinceAlbert	((also, I'm going to have to take off in a few minutes))
	PrinceAlbert	(:()
	TheKinginAmber	Hmm... and, despite my better judgement, what say you, Dear Yorick?
	TheKinginAmber	(that's cool man. we're probably going to only get one roundi n at this rate if you can hang on for about 5 more minute for Gerald to do his voting)
	PrinceAlbert	(yeah)
	FlakyBiscuit	Since you asked, Father, I quite remember the clever ruse that our dear Duchess pulled with the cake. I don't quite know what Albert is thinking.
	FlakyBiscuit	(a vote for duchess)
	FlakyBiscuit	For you see, the Duchess is never without a cake party.
	FlakyBiscuit	It is her favorite pastry, after all!
	TheKinginAmber	Hmm.. If there is anything I would believe, is the tell tale sign of how much my sons love a good pastry. You make excellent points, and despite being my most celebrated son, I find your words hard to believe Albert.
	TheKinginAmber	Please, duchess. continue.
	TheKinginAmber	(Al, lose 1 favour)
	PrinceAlbert	(ok)
	PrinceDuchess	As I was saying, I was sabotaging the party, quick as a lash
	PrinceDuchess	When a simple cook from the Baroness' employ caught me red-handed in the act!
	PrinceAlbert	(spent 1, lost 1, 1 remaining)
	PrinceDuchess	He was already to cry to the guards, and I would have no doubt been up a creek had that happened
	FlakyBiscuit	(it is really easy to lose in this game)
	PrinceDuchess	but as you know, I am a master of seduction
	PrinceDuchess	30 seconds of the best lovemaking of my life and the deeds were done
	PrinceAlbert	stares
	PrinceDuchess	I fled to a safe distance to watch the proceedings
	PrinceDuchess	and the rest of the story, as they say, is history
	PrinceDuchess	Sorry I burned the amphitheatre down with that
	PrinceDuchess	I feel super bad about that
	PrinceDuchess	Duchess bows
	TheKinginAmber	Psh. I'll build a new one tomorrow.
	TheKinginAmber	An excellent story, but the day grows short. Gerald. Tell me of your adventures.
	PrinceGerald	"As you wish, beloved sire."
	FlakyBiscuit	(this is Night phase, btw)
	TheKinginAmber	(whooops!)
	PrinceGerald	"Whilst my siblings hunted strange beasts and played pranks, I sought a far more dangerous prize - knowledge."
	PrinceGerald	"I journeyed to the Foreboding Isle, wreathed in darkness on a Shadow whose name has been lost to all who live, a lifeless place of stone and storm. At its center I found the Bone Tower."
	PrinceGerald	"Its gates were barred to all entry, sealed with magics ancient and terrible. But in the dusty tomes of our own royal libraries I learned its secret key. A candle, made with wax tempered with the blood of royalty - of which I could readily supply - and the only hair of a woman of beauty. Which my sister's prank offered; I took a hair from the Baroness before all the rest were burned."
	PrinceDuchess	OBJECTION!
	TheKinginAmber	(Gerald try to write a sentence per post, so people have an easier time objecting you)
	TheKinginAmber	(LIKE THAT!)
	PrinceGerald	(sorry)
	PrinceDuchess	I'm your brother >:I
	TheKinginAmber	(its fine!)
	PrinceGerald	(sorry)
	PrinceAlbert	He meant the Baroness' hair brother
	PrinceDuchess	Everyone who knows what occured there knows that all the Baroness' hair had been burnt to ash!
	PrinceAlbert	(vote?)
	PrinceGerald	"Ah, but I plucked it when I kissed her on both cheeks in greeting when I arrived, before the cake... ignited."
	TheKinginAmber	(not yet, he has to respond first)
	TheKinginAmber	(Now vote)
	TheKinginAmber	Hmm.. inteeresting twist, Albert? Your thoughts?
	PrinceDuchess	((That s a good rebuttle))
	PrinceAlbert	I witnessed the purloined hair plucking, Duchess wasn't even in the room! (vote Gerald)
	TheKinginAmber	((there's been really good ones all game actually))
	TheKinginAmber	Hmm... Yorick?
	FlakyBiscuit	On the contrary. You weren't even at the party, Gerald!
	FlakyBiscuit	You were out and about.
	FlakyBiscuit	\
	FlakyBiscuit	You bragged about it, even!
	FlakyBiscuit	(vote duchess)
	PrinceDuchess	(How do ties break?))
	FlakyBiscuit	(the king decides)
	PrinceAlbert	(king breaks em)
	TheKinginAmber	(I decide)
	FlakyBiscuit	(you can spend favor though)
	PrinceGerald	(the KING decides)
	FlakyBiscuit	(to swing it in your, well, favor)
	TheKinginAmber	(you can spend favour though)
	PrinceAlbert	(and shit, my time is up...I'm sorry I'm cutting out early like this!)
	PrinceAlbert	(I'll probably post my write up in the thread tomorrow)
	TheKinginAmber	Ah... How interesting. To think I could see you so conflicted with each other. Hmm.
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	TheKinginAmber	I say, For now, We take the word of Gerald to heart. A tale of knowledge is important, and he could have easily gotten the hair before the party even started.
	TheKinginAmber	Continue.
	PrinceGerald	bows. "Thank you father."
	PrinceGerald	"The way now unbarred, I ascended the tower - to the chambers of the Witch-Oracle."
	PrinceGerald	"I found her taking her tea with lemon cakes, attended by ghosts and shadows."
	PrinceGerald	"She was beautiful, but hid her face behind an ornate mask, only her ancient eyes showing."
	PrinceGerald	"She offered me the true answer to any single question, and in payment I would give up a memory of my own."
	PrinceGerald	"I asked her one thing - how shall I know when I have found my true love?"
	PrinceGerald	"And she answered, that I would not."
	PrinceGerald	"I trembled with fury for a moment - but then I realized the answer to this riddle."
	PrinceGerald	"I must treat every love as true, for else I would seek forever for what cannot be found."
	PrinceGerald	"And there my tale must end, for what I forgot, was how I made my way home."
	PrinceGerald	"... speaking of which, if anyone finds my favorite pair of boots, I would greatly appreciate if you would get them back to me."
	TheKinginAmber	A Tale, worthy enough to bring a tear to a woman's eye. I hope for your own sake that you take that memory well, for it will benefit you in the age on years ahead.
	PrinceGerald	bows. "I shall."
	TheKinginAmber	For now though my children, my time grows short, and the dawn is breaking. You have all done well, my children, more so than I truely expected. I look forward to your next tales with interest.
	TheKinginAmber	Good day to you all.
	PrinceDuchess	Good day indeed
	FlakyBiscuit	Mmm.
	PrinceGerald	Good morrow, father.
	TheKinginAmber	((aaand I think there's enough to stop there for now, especially giving that we lost one player))
	FlakyBiscuit	(yeah)
	PrinceGerald	(yeah)
	TheKinginAmber	((What do you guys think before I put in my thoughts))
	PrinceDuchess	((Yeah))
	PrinceDuchess	((Fun, took a bit long in IRC))
	FlakyBiscuit	(there are a lot of problems with this game)
	TheKinginAmber	( go on)
	FlakyBiscuit	(namely, it suffers the Apples to Apples problem)
	FlakyBiscuit	(and also that it's really just Baron Munchhausen with voting tacked on)
	TheKinginAmber	(well he already stated that last bit at the begining, but what's the apples to apples problem?)
	FlakyBiscuit	(the apples to apples problem is a common problem in games where you have to give responses)
	FlakyBiscuit	(and have them choose their favorite)
	PrinceDuchess	(I never played Baron Munchhausen, but I like this game's concept. Where would a fella find it?))
	FlakyBiscuit	(where people can be on different wavelengths as to what they need to respond with)
	=-=	YOU are now known as Radioactive_Bears
	=-=	User mode for Radioactive_Bears is now +r
	FlakyBiscuit	(which, in the case of voting, tends to make things lopsided)
	FlakyBiscuit	i think we can dispense with the parentheses, too
	=-=	PrinceGerald is now known as Gorbash
	TheKinginAmber	(Its actually around in shops, there's anotehr one like it called Overlord or something like that too)
	=-=	TheKinginAmber is now known as DDwarf
	Radioactive_Bears	Yeah, it's not really a good guideline for voting
	FlakyBiscuit	another thing that he'd need to fix is the fact that you can lose the game in the first phase
	Gorbash	well playing this makes it clear i need to try out Baron Munchhausen
	FlakyBiscuit	because you only start with 3 points.
	FlakyBiscuit	and once you lose, you're kicked out of the game immediately.
	FlakyBiscuit	which almost happened to two of us
	DDwarf	Actually, I think with the game, your starting favour should be number of players Plus 1.
	Gorbash	at least
	Radioactive_Bears	that's a good idea
	Radioactive_Bears	Also, what was the final score?
	Gorbash	also i dont see why anyone would ever spend favor
	DDwarf	You want them to be more cautiious at the beginning, but go crazy at the end in an attempt to rally points
	FlakyBiscuit	i'd say you'd need at least starting players + 3
	Gorbash	it seems like a losing game
	DDwarf	Ah yes.
	DDwarf	Duchess gains 3 favour,
	DDwarf	Albert gains 3 favour
	FlakyBiscuit	additionally, voting is terrible in games without many players
	DDwarf	and Yorick gains 2 favour
	FlakyBiscuit	and in this case, the number of voters is players - 3
	FlakyBiscuit	so unless you have lots of players, voting is inconsequential
	DDwarf	My main issue is that the only way to gain favour is by contests
	Radioactive_Bears	Yeah
	FlakyBiscuit	i also think that voting in games is a dick move to pull
	FlakyBiscuit	because it makes you side against other people
	FlakyBiscuit	and that's not something we should be encouraging
	FlakyBiscuit	at least in this form.
	DDwarf	I thin that's the whole point of it though.. isnt it?
	Radioactive_Bears	Honestly paring down the whole Favour system in general to meaningless kudos that you compare when it's all over sounds like it would add to the game
	FlakyBiscuit	if it is, it's not a game i'd want to participate in.
	DDwarf	fair enough.
	FlakyBiscuit	another problem that we ran into was tone, i think
	DDwarf	My issues were with favour granting, as in getitng it outside of contests.
	FlakyBiscuit	without a consistent world, no one knew what tone their story should take
	Radioactive_Bears	Yeah, I have no idea what the tone is supposed to be
	DDwarf	Yeah, I suppose there should be a bit of a setting rule shouldn't there?
	FlakyBiscuit	so you get the problem where players expect a story to have a certain tone, and then object when it doesn't
	DDwarf	Also, while we're on the subject, Why can't someone just accept someone's rebuttal and just move on?
	FlakyBiscuit	see the cake beasts
	FlakyBiscuit	yeah
	Radioactive_Bears	I wasn't really sure what was happening
	Radioactive_Bears	and just fumbled for any kind of objection at all :I
	DDwarf	well the other thing is that we played it through IRC
	DDwarf	maybe in speech it would work stronger.
	FlakyBiscuit	i think that baron munchhausen works better than this, though
	DDwarf	that's because there's no voting and you play it while drunk
	FlakyBiscuit	you don't have to play it while drunk
	Radioactive_Bears	I really need to get this game
	FlakyBiscuit	but it helps
	DDwarf	the game is cool, it just needs a more solid work on conversations
	FlakyBiscuit	all in all, i've got a pretty negative opinion of this
	FlakyBiscuit	but that's just me
	DDwarf	sorry about that Flaky.
	FlakyBiscuit	eh, can't like every game
	DDwarf	Hey, if it makes you feel any better, I thought you guys were brillant
	FlakyBiscuit	i lost every conflict though
	FlakyBiscuit	i think the only way i'd see this working is with, like, a Resistance-sized party
	DDwarf	peoplej ust hated you today!
	FlakyBiscuit	if you were playing with, say, a group of 8
	DDwarf	like a super large party?
	DDwarf	Hmmm..
	FlakyBiscuit	and you actually had meaningful votes
	FlakyBiscuit	you could make a night of just one phase
	FlakyBiscuit	also, i don't mean to be rude or whatever, but cake? really?
	DDwarf	...
	DDwarf	Screw you cake's awesome.
	FlakyBiscuit	i guess i just expected things out of this that it didn't have.
	DDwarf	well... like what?
	FlakyBiscuit	like fun
	FlakyBiscuit	LP
	FlakyBiscuit
	FlakyBiscuit	but seriously,
	DDwarf	wow that hurt man
	DDwarf
	FlakyBiscuit	sorry, bad joke
	FlakyBiscuit	i guess it really would help if he had a guide to what style of stories people should tell
	DDwarf
	DDwarf	True
	FlakyBiscuit	because from what i know, amber is a pretty serious series
	DDwarf	I really liked Gorbash is story though
	DDwarf	I thought that was pretty cool
	Radioactive_Bears	A good one
	DDwarf	But I liked the diversity of the choices as well
	FlakyBiscuit	there we go, something else i thought was a little irksome
	DDwarf	Oh boy.
	FlakyBiscuit	this game directly pits people's preferences against eachother
	FlakyBiscuit	like, in a personal way
	FlakyBiscuit	i dunno, maybe people like that though
	DDwarf	true.
	DDwarf	Hmm..
	DDwarf	Well lets post this in the threaed before time runs out
	DDwarf	Flaky. do you need to run a game in forder to get things running?
	FlakyBiscuit	Like, I don't really want to spend a night telling my friends "your story sucked"
	FlakyBiscuit	i already ran a game
	FlakyBiscuit	i did emperor mittens
	DDwarf	...
	DDwarf	damn you.
	FlakyBiscuit	lol
	FlakyBiscuit
	FlakyBiscuit	i could run something else tomorrow, though
	Radioactive_Bears	Glad I could help, even if I dropped out of the contest
	FlakyBiscuit	there's still a few games left.
	FlakyBiscuit	i might see about setting up for arenaball, since i do roll20
	DDwarf	no swear radio. I needed the help! right gonna go find that log.
	DDwarf	if I'm on tomorrow before the deadline, hit me up for it
	Radioactive_Bears	Huh?
	FlakyBiscuit	alright, cool
	DDwarf	That was supposed to be No Sweat
	DDwarf	sorry the game didn't go your way Flaky.
	DDwarf	I apologise
	FlakyBiscuit	that's fine, not your fault
	FlakyBiscuit	nowhere near as bad as the emperor mittens playtest, anyway
	Radioactive_Bears	I remember the very, very alpha wasn't bad
	Radioactive_Bears	What did he change?
	Radioactive_Bears	Of EM I mean
	FlakyBiscuit	he made everything take like, quadruple time to go through
	DDwarf	oh god..
	Radioactive_Bears	Huh, weird
	DDwarf	there's no log.
	Gorbash	oops sorry
	Gorbash	got pulled away
	DDwarf	its fine man.
	Gorbash	i have a log i think
	Radioactive_Bears	I remember our feedback was to shorten stuff up
	DDwarf	what did you think f the game too?
	FlakyBiscuit	a single combat thing is that you have to draw a card, subtract your opponent's value, and then use TWO multipliers
	Gorbash	anyways i really liked this game conceptually, i think favor needs to be rethought and guidelines for objections need to be clearer
	Gorbash	and might need to be divorced from voting
	Radioactive_Bears	Yeah
	DDwarf	I agree.
	Gorbash	also to fix the Apples to Apples problem is easy
	Gorbash	rotate King duties from day to day
	Gorbash	i think that would help a lot
	DDwarf	Gorbash, grab the log if you can, and link it to me wil lyou? Or just post it.
	Gorbash	sure
	FlakyBiscuit	well, the problem is that everyone else votes on your stuff
	FlakyBiscuit	so it still relies on personal preference
	DDwarf	I can't for the life if me figure otu why my log isn't showing
	Radioactive_Bears	The log for this game?
	FlakyBiscuit	did you stop the logging?
	DDwarf	yeah
	DDwarf	no I think I might have been dumb and logged the wrong thing
	DDwarf	because I am a total spaz
	Radioactive_Bears	I can C+P it if you need
	DDwarf	yeah I'll probably do that instead so I don't feel dumb and hope it works out
	Gorbash	http://pastebin.com/zJWFfdi6
	Gorbash	i missed part of it
	Gorbash	for difference in tastes - i think its just something you have to accept with this style of game