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Nannak [09|Dec 11:24 AM]:	I think Mcgee is trying to avoid the DRC which is why he rarely comes to askmcgee forums anymore
Nannak [09|Dec 12:04 PM]:	Because it is, it places women in a helpless situation waiting for men to rescue them
Momo [09|Dec 12:04 PM]:	so what? it's just a game
Momo [09|Dec 12:04 PM]:	xD
Nannak [09|Dec 12:04 PM]:	I Think your missing the point
Nannak [09|Dec 12:05 PM]:	I can't believe your that apathetic
War [09|Dec 12:05 PM]:	actually zelda helps you fight ganon at the end
War [09|Dec 12:05 PM]:	she's far from helpless
Nannak [09|Dec 12:05 PM]:	But the point is a male hero always saves the day
War [09|Dec 12:06 PM]:	link is a little kid lol
Nannak [09|Dec 12:06 PM]:	Her helping you doesn't mean much
Momo [09|Dec 12:06 PM]:	it's a fact that IRL men are stronger than women, so it's and endless sexist circle anyway
Momo [09|Dec 12:06 PM]:	*an
War [09|Dec 12:06 PM]:	well nan jumped on the crazy cake again
Momo [09|Dec 12:06 PM]:	btw, there are games with female main character
War [09|Dec 12:06 PM]:	that means its time to sign out and hop on black ops 2, peace!
Momo [09|Dec 12:06 PM]:	lol
Nannak [09|Dec 12:06 PM]:	Momo your now predicably being sexist now
Nannak [09|Dec 12:07 PM]:	Also whites have bigger brains than blacks
War [09|Dec 12:07 PM]:	oh, and i saw somebody with a dolphin dick emblem, made me lol
Nannak [09|Dec 12:07 PM]:	It's the same thing]
War [09|Dec 12:07 PM]:	the truth lol
Momo [09|Dec 12:07 PM]:	so I am sexist because I said a general truth
Momo [09|Dec 12:08 PM]:	xD
War [09|Dec 12:08 PM]:	the average african american SAT score is ~1300 with all 3 sections combined, the average for a white person is ~1600
War [09|Dec 12:08 PM]:	i happened to score an 1810, so suck it, too bad i got one of the lowest scores in my school lol
Momo [09|Dec 12:08 PM]:	what does brain have to do with it
Nannak [09|Dec 12:09 PM]:	I think your all missing the point, people back in the 19th century used to believe that whites were Superior than other races which this same attitude towards women is disturbingly familiar
Momo [09|Dec 12:12 PM]:	I think you don't understand our point, it's a general truth that women are weaker, so what? it does not make them less superior, it's just a physical difference
War [09|Dec 12:12 PM]:	nobody is saying "men are better than women" people are saying "the average man is stronger than the average female" and science can prove it because men have more testosterone which is what makes men more physically stronger
Momo [09|Dec 12:12 PM]:	war just said what I wanted to say
Momo [09|Dec 12:12 PM]:	xD
Nannak [09|Dec 12:13 PM]:	Point is, even if "Men are Stronger than Women" (which I feel as if it's becoming more of a common myth it sounds like) it's still no justification to marginalize women into Damsel in Distresses.
War [09|Dec 12:13 PM]:	if you took steroids, you'd be taking testosterone supplements which is why you can build a large amount of muscles
War [09|Dec 12:13 PM]:	they arent trying to make it a "damsel in distress" situation, zelda doesnt fit that role, she is one of the 3 special people that can use the power of the triforce, ganon and link being the other two
War [09|Dec 12:14 PM]:	ganon kidnapped her to steal her power because she didnt know how to use it to fight ganon, link didnt even know he had the power which is why you go on an adventure to get the sword that can actually hurt ganon
War [09|Dec 12:14 PM]:	at the end when you finally fight ganon, zelda fights him also because she learns how to use her powers
Nannak [09|Dec 12:14 PM]:	"I think you don't understand our point, it's a general truth that women are weaker, so what? it does not make them less superior, it's just a physical difference" Yet you used "Men are stronger than women" to justify Damsel in Distresses which as if you were actually implying that men are surperor to women without even knowing it about the connection is still the same
War [09|Dec 12:15 PM]:	gah fuck this, team deathmatch time
War [09|Dec 12:15 PM]:	the real question is, do i use the ballista or the DSR 50
Nannak [09|Dec 12:15 PM]:	In storyline explainations are no excuse, they shouldn't even add the Damsel in Distress storyline in the first place
War [09|Dec 12:16 PM]:	so how would you write the story of zelda
Momo [09|Dec 12:16 PM]:	then look at it from a physical point of view, the woman is in a cage and she can't break out, so the man comes to help, is that sexist?
Nannak [09|Dec 12:17 PM]:	I think I told you already. I would take Link out and have just Zelda be the main character which the story could easily be a Princess defeating evil and becoming a Queen simple as that
War [09|Dec 12:17 PM]:	that makes no fucking sense
Nannak [09|Dec 12:17 PM]:	Like men can break cages? Your just extraggering, you need is a key to open cages
Momo [09|Dec 12:18 PM]:	let's say it's a wooden cage
Momo [09|Dec 12:18 PM]:	xD
Momo [09|Dec 12:18 PM]:	a weak one
Momo [09|Dec 12:18 PM]:	XD
Nannak [09|Dec 12:18 PM]:	I think I just went over your sexist head with my suggestion
War [09|Dec 12:19 PM]:	so how do you get the key if you are in the cage?
Momo [09|Dec 12:19 PM]:	so basically you just want games with female or male heroes, no saving stuff
Nannak [09|Dec 12:20 PM]:	Well especially games with female heroes and no saving
Nannak [09|Dec 12:21 PM]:	Also there is too many Brown Haired White male protagonists as well: http://unrealitymag.com/index....-cutter/
Momo [09|Dec 12:21 PM]:	the alice is not your game, she saved hatter, a man D:
Momo [09|Dec 12:21 PM]:	*then
Momo [09|Dec 12:21 PM]:	hm look at dante his hair is white :3
Nannak [09|Dec 12:22 PM]:	You simply don't get it do you?
Momo [09|Dec 12:22 PM]:	you are thinking too much into it I think
War [09|Dec 12:23 PM]:	by that assumption, the cast of Black Ops 2 must be pretty unique since section is in his 20s and has black hair
Nannak [09|Dec 12:23 PM]:	I rather think too much rather being braindead too much
Nannak [09|Dec 12:24 PM]:	Well point is, their all white males
Nannak [09|Dec 12:24 PM]:	which is the default staple protagonist in the west
War [09|Dec 12:24 PM]:	the black ops 2 main characters also include some spanish guys, an arab guy, and the admiral is a black guy
Nannak [09|Dec 12:24 PM]:	while the rest of the characters of other genders, PoC are reduced to stock characters
War [09|Dec 12:24 PM]:	also the president in 2025 according to the story is a woman
Momo [09|Dec 12:25 PM]:	so what is the problem with people preferring white over black, if I was born black I'd prefer black
Nannak [09|Dec 12:25 PM]:	Black Ops is still nothing more than a video game version of a US Army commercial
War [09|Dec 12:25 PM]:	nope by your definition it's a unique single player experience
Momo [09|Dec 12:26 PM]:	lol
[09|Dec 12:26 PM]:	Nannak bangs head on wall
Momo [09|Dec 12:26 PM]:	good
Nannak [09|Dec 12:26 PM]:	Fuck this, I'm simply wasting my time and your all clueless
Momo [09|Dec 12:27 PM]:	we are brain dead anyways right war
Momo [09|Dec 12:27 PM]:	xD
War [09|Dec 12:27 PM]:	you're*
Momo [09|Dec 12:27 PM]:	we are not clueless, you can't fight facts, it's simple
Nannak [09|Dec 12:28 PM]:	That's what you think though
War [09|Dec 12:29 PM]:	now that i think of it, if you kill harper then farid the arab guy sacrifices himself to save karma from getting shot in the head
Nannak [09|Dec 12:30 PM]:	Well here's a test: what about this, what do you think about this project (Tropes vs Women in Video Games)? http://www.feministfrequency.com/
Momo [09|Dec 12:32 PM]:	interesting
Momo [09|Dec 12:32 PM]:	I never looked on any women in games though
Momo [09|Dec 12:32 PM]:	*looked down
War [09|Dec 12:32 PM]:	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...sHouEtPo right there, its official BO2 is nannak's ideal game
Momo [09|Dec 12:32 PM]:	they are quite rare btw
Twiggy [09|Dec 12:33 PM]:	I'm sure Nannak has a problem with bloodrayne lol
Nannak [09|Dec 12:35 PM]:	Thing is War I'm not into Military games
Nannak [09|Dec 12:36 PM]:	I rather stick to Doom
War [09|Dec 12:36 PM]:	i dont see why anybody would consider black ops 2 a military game
Nannak [09|Dec 12:36 PM]:	....?
[09|Dec 12:36 PM]:	War has confused Nannak.
Nannak [09|Dec 12:37 PM]:	Are you really that ignorant towards reality? It is a Military game use your fucking head for once
War [09|Dec 12:37 PM]:	its funny how you automatically assume i was being serious
Nannak [09|Dec 12:37 PM]:	Your really are braindead
War [09|Dec 12:37 PM]:	do you HONESTLY think i was being seriously?
Nannak [09|Dec 12:37 PM]:	Well I couldn't tell you was joking or being serious
War [09|Dec 12:37 PM]:	i take it you dont think before you talk or type anything lmao
Momo [09|Dec 12:37 PM]:	oh god xD
Nannak [09|Dec 12:38 PM]:	oh