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- OK, I watched the videos
- 1. If you really want to make residual income in your opportunity you HAVE to recruit, same as in any other legitimate MLM
- 2. If you just click on ads, you receive so little money that it's a joke compared with what I am earning
- 3. Your compensation plan is limited and you do have start up cost of Euro 40
- So, in essence Talk Fusion provides you much better Compensation Plan and Residual income for much less
- Sorry, Diego, but you really need to see what we offer and start making real money in MLM :-0
- Just watch this and compare, then we talk again
- Ben Popov
- 15:14
- Ben Popov
- http://1159062.jointalkfusion.com/presentation.asp
- Talk Fusion
- 1159062.jointalkfusion.com
- The earnings portrayed in this presentation are not necessarily representative of the income, if any, that a Talk Fusion Associate can or will earn through his or her participation in the Talk Fusion Compensation Plan. These figures should not be considered as guarantees or projections of your actua...
- Diego Linde
- 15:17
- Diego Linde
- Hi Ben
- Thank you for your feedback
- Ben Popov
- 15:19
- Ben Popov
- My pleasure!
- Diego Linde
- 15:19
- Diego Linde
- I already began watching the Talk Fusion opportunity from the link you gave me earlier, but haven't finished. When I do, I'll get back to you.
- Ben Popov
- 15:19
- Ben Popov
- OK, great
- Diego Linde
- 15:23
- Diego Linde
- But, you say earnings from Clicking is little? The presentation downplays the power of this income. Yes, 2Euros does not sound life-shattering, but it is a 20% ROI within 25 days. and, multiply 1euro per day by x number of extra blocks and it can not be said to be insignificant. 1000 x 1Euro per day? for clicking on 10 banners.
- yes, 40 Euros gets one earning 2 Euros per day immediately. No up-front admin /membership fees.
- Ben Popov
- 15:30
- Ben Popov
- I think you did not understand what I said - I make over US$ 12,000 per month RESIDUAL income, it means I don't have to do ANYTHING to receive this money. Yes, it requires recruiting, but once you have your network you don;t have to work anymore.
- In your case you need to keep clicking every day so that you make some change money. And if you really want to earn big, you need to recruit.
- Now, think like this:
- If you really want to achieve success and RESIDUAL income in PlanB4You, you have to recruit! Otherwise, you need to be in fron of a PC every day in order to click and make some money.
- And if you go on vacation? You need to click too, right?
- But not me in Talk Fusion, if I don't open my PC for a month I will still get my US$ 12,000 or more
- I am not criticizing, I am simply comparing
- And just FYI, I make money online since year 2000 and researched hundreds of companies before deciding to join Talk Fusion, so believe me - you want find better Plan B for you than Talk Fusion
- Another thing to consider - clicking on ads led too many people to loose their money, it's just not serious business model
- Remember Zeek Rewards? How about TelexFree? See what happened with them
- Ben Popov
- 15:40
- Ben Popov
- http://www.businessforhome.org/2014/04/telexfree-files-for-bankruptcy/
- TelexFREE Files For Bankruptcy
- www.businessforhome.org
- TelexFREE Files Voluntary Chapter 11 Petitions To Facilitate Financial And Operational Restructuring. The commissions of 30 Top earners are frozen
- Ben Popov
- 15:44
- Ben Popov
- I don't mean to offend you or anything like that, I simply share with you my experience and my opinion, but of course the choice is yours
- Diego Linde
- 15:49
- Diego Linde
- No, offense taken at all, Ben. This is business and we have to make the right choices. I would add this is not a competition. I do hear that you are earning good money, but regardless how much we can always earn more. That is why I am sharing this with you and I appreciate your valued consideration.
- However, I see that you have misunderstood a couple things. Recruiting is not necessary to earn good income. Current average of daily yield is 0.80. The current max of extra blocks = 2500. Yes, its a long journey from 1ClickBlock to 2500 extra blocks, but it is possible, for someone who has no more than 40Euros to start their online business. Even with 1000 extrablocks or 500j
- Diego Linde
- 15:50
- Diego Linde
- even we are earning very good daily income. 3 minutes a day is not too much to ask, even on holiday. But, if we do go on holiday there will be a holiday schedule durin gwhich we don't need to click at all.
- Ben Popov
- 15:50
- Ben Popov
- I understand that, but I was talking about Residual income which is simply not possible if in order to make money you need to stay in fron of a PC clicking on ads...
- Diego Linde
- 15:51
- Diego Linde
- 2. The videos did not include 2nd Active Income. which is percentage of product sales. This can easily be 50,000 per month,
- Diego Linde
- 15:52
- Diego Linde
- I hear you say that clicking is not a sustainable business model, however, this business is created with stability in mind. They have studied the mistakes of previous companies. One factor is that every member has to spend 25% of their earning in the webshop. This ensures a minimum earning for advertisers.
- Ben Popov
- 15:52
- Ben Popov
- Yes, but only on theory. You know why - because you don't have exclusive products available only for your members, so buying through your site will not bring you much if anything at all.
- Diego Linde
- 15:54
- Diego Linde
- PlanB negotiates discounted deals, so that members get it cheaper in the webshop than on the highstreet. from Gillette razors to Apple laptops. They are in negotiations with Citroen for cars, and Insurance and other things are in the pipeline. As for exclusivity, PlanB has purchased 12 factories where they are packaging and creating their own brand of products too.
- Ben Popov
- 15:54
- Ben Popov
- To buy anything there I as a customer must find a great discount or a product I can't buy elsewhere, and I believe that's not the case.
- Diego Linde
- 15:56
- Diego Linde
- The point is 25% of our earning goes back into the webshop and this in part creates stability
- There is a range of products that people use anyway, whether its soap, shampoo razor blades, perfrume, laptops, tv's and on and on.
- Ben Popov
- 16:00
- Ben Popov
- OK, it might be good opportunity for someone who wants to click on ads. In my case, I recruit people because I love it and I don't depend even on it anymore. So, even the company is sustainable it is simply not good enough for me at this point. But, it might be for people who are just starting
- Diego Linde
- 16:02
- Diego Linde
- I am person 2142 in PlanB, Since then another 4000 people have joined. The average profit margin is around 30% As a very conservative figure, because we don't want to calculate ourselves rich, lets say each member spends $100 per month That is $30 profit x 4000 members. With (current) +50 extra blocks I will earn 4% on this. That is 4000 x 30 = 12,000 x 4% = 4800. Maybe that is not a lot to you, but I would be happy to receive this every month for clicking on 10 banners per day And planB4you is only growing in membership. Do the same calculation with 20,000 members and you can see that one doesn't have to recruit to earn very very good money.
- Ben Popov
- 16:04
- Ben Popov
- OK, maybe so. But, as I said I am past this long ago And my goal is those US$ 50,000 per week residual
- Diego Linde
- 16:05
- Diego Linde
- Good for you
- Ben Popov
- 16:05
- Ben Popov
- Diego Linde
- 16:05
- Diego Linde
- but not everyone is in that position
- I watched and listened to TalkFusion
- Ben Popov
- 16:06
- Ben Popov
- Everyone could be if they want, I started 2 years ago with Talk Fusion and built my business from zero
- With TF everything is easy, I don't do presentations since we have them ready I only give the link to people and they sign in
- Diego Linde
- 16:08
- Diego Linde
- Yes, its possible, but reality is that not everyone likes recruiting and sharing their business opportunity. And it seems remiss to lose the collective energy of the many member participants who could otherwise add to the synergy of a company.
- 1. TF charge 30$ joining fee
- Ben Popov
- 16:09
- Ben Popov
- Exactly, less than your company
- Diego Linde
- 16:09
- Diego Linde
- planB don't charge membership fee
- Ben Popov
- 16:10
- Ben Popov
- Also, you have limits on earning levels, we don't
- US$ 30 is not membership fee, it's one-time fee
- Diego Linde
- 16:10
- Diego Linde
- for what?
- Ben Popov
- 16:10
- Ben Popov
- To have the right to sell our products and make money
- Diego Linde
- 16:11
- Diego Linde
- Ok, that's what I call a membership fee. Call it what you like. With planB there is no 'joining' fee or anything like that whatsoever
- Ben Popov
- 16:11
- Ben Popov
- We receive anyway, regardless I sell to end-customer or to associate
- What is this Euro 40 than?
- You can call it whatever you want, but you still need to pay Euro 40.
- In TF you pay as well, but US$ 30
- So, our start up cost is lower
- Diego Linde
- 16:12
- Diego Linde
- With this 40 Euro we buy our ClickBlock and earn 50 Euros, which is 20% ROI
- Ben Popov
- 16:14
- Ben Popov
- Clicking on ads is not a real product or service, and clicking on ads does not mean you will buy anything
- Diego Linde
- 16:14
- Diego Linde
- No, $30 is just to entitle you to then go to #2
- 2. Depending on package, hefty one-off fee plus ongoing monthly commitment of min $20
- Ben Popov
- 16:14
- Ben Popov
- I am telling you seriously, this has been done and it is not a good business model
- Diego Linde
- 16:15
- Diego Linde
- in PlanB there is NO joining /membership fee. 40Euros is the cost of ClickBlock to immediately earn 50Euros
- Ben Popov
- 16:15
- Ben Popov
- You pay US$ 20 per month in order to use our product - Video E-mail
- Diego Linde
- 16:15
- Diego Linde
- 25% of earning automatically getes segregated into e-wallet which can only be spent in the webshop
- Ben Popov
- 16:15
- Ben Popov
- We are Video E-mail provider with Video Hosting included
- Diego Linde
- 16:15
- Diego Linde
- I already have email
- Ben Popov
- 16:15
- Ben Popov
- No, you don't have Video E-mail
- Diego Linde
- 16:16
- Diego Linde
- Do I need this service?
- Ben Popov
- 16:16
- Ben Popov
- Do you have success in your video marketing>
- I do, as I use Video E-mail which makes people nuts
- Diego Linde
- 16:16
- Diego Linde
- I don't need to do video marketing. Do I?
- Ben Popov
- 16:17
- Ben Popov
- If you want success in internet marketing, you do
- Diego Linde
- 16:17
- Diego Linde
- I'm not saying its a good product, but TF looks expensive just to have something I could live happily without
- Ben Popov
- 16:17
- Ben Popov
- If you simply click on ads, I don't know
- But you approached me in order to introduce your opportunity
- So, isn't it recruiting?
- Diego Linde
- 16:18
- Diego Linde
- Yes, I am happy to recruit, but its absolutely not required
- Ben Popov
- 16:18
- Ben Popov
- With the Starter package you pay US$ 20 per month with potential earning of US$ 2000 per month. Expensive?
- Diego Linde
- 16:18
- Diego Linde
- and its not required to have video email to recruit. We are just talking, right?
- ''potential''
- what does the potential depend on?
- recruiting?
- Ben Popov
- 16:19
- Ben Popov
- Video E-mail is only one of our products, as in any MLM company you have products you sell and you can recruit as well
- No, selling the products OR recruiting OR both
- Did you see who are our customers?
- Diego Linde
- 16:20
- Diego Linde
- If your company would guarantee income without needing to recruit I would be VERY interested
- Ben Popov
- 16:20
- Ben Popov
- West Point Military Academy, Police of Florida, Norwegian Cruise Line, Applebee's, etc. etc.
- Of course we have guaranteed income without recruiting
- We are not pyramid
- Just sell the products and get paid in 3 minutes
- Diego Linde
- 16:22
- Diego Linde
- planB4you = no membership fees, no selling, no recruiting. Low one-time entry fee and one can build it up. From what we earn we spend 25% in the shop. So, we get taken money out of our pocket from our internet earnings. WE don't have to be on autoship or pay out of pocket each month to stay in a program in the hope that we realize the potential (eventually) hopefully.
- Ben Popov
- 16:23
- Ben Popov
- OK, let's do something like that. We stop here now and get back to this conversation one year from now. And we compare again, deal?
- Diego Linde
- 16:24
- Diego Linde
- Regarding limitation. Yes, There is currently a limitation of 2500 extra blocks. It was 1000 and has been upgraded to 2500 now. This is done in a controlled manner in stages according to the growth of the company to ensure that we remain sustainable. As for product sales there is no limitation at all.
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